Confused about ideal calorie intake

Charliecatesq
Charliecatesq Posts: 100 Member
edited November 18 in Health and Weight Loss
Im 5ft tall, pretty sedentary (work FT and sat down for most of it) and weigh 13st 13 (195lbs). I am seeing people on the site who are around the same as me eating more than i have been recommended (1200 for 2lbs weightloss and 1400 for 1lb weightloss) and wanted to check with some experts i am on the right track.

I am currently trying to eat 1400 and not eating back anything earned though burning, i don't use the gym but more or less hit my 10,000 steps a day.

Been stuck in a rut recently and find 1200 very hard to stick to but have had a few months of not taking it seriously.

Thanks all.

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  • mizzlarabee
    mizzlarabee Posts: 134 Member
    edited May 2015
    1200 is quite low, and is an absolute minimum, not an ideal. Your intake should be calculated to your current needs. Do you exercise at all during the week?
  • Charliecatesq
    Charliecatesq Posts: 100 Member
    1200 is quite low, and is an absolute minimum, not an ideal. Your intake should be calculated to your current needs.

    It is but i struggle to lose, the first 14lbs i lost sticking to 1200 and eating back burned cals, i switched to 1400 as i was so miserable and then hit a bit of a rut. Lost a pound the other week but still struggling. The curse of being short and not *that* overweight with PCOS.

    Whole thing is pretty miserable.
  • yesimpson
    yesimpson Posts: 1,372 Member
    I would think, with the greatest of respect, you could eat a little more and still lose weight given your stats. If you feel very dissatisfied, I'd at least raise calories to 1400. To be honest, I am lighter than you and able to lose weight (OK, at a snail-slow pace, but still) at around 1700, leaving exercise calories out of the equation, which lets me enjoy big dinners and the occasional beer, chocolate bar etc.
    Eating a bit more may slow your weight loss (but that is not a bad thing at all), but on the flip side, you might find it easier to stick to, which means you WILL actually get there :)
  • yesimpson
    yesimpson Posts: 1,372 Member
    Just seen you have PCOS - does this affect your maintenance calorie level, and therefore how much you need to eat to lose weight? My first comment might not be pertinent if so.
  • Charliecatesq
    Charliecatesq Posts: 100 Member
    yesimpson wrote: »
    I would think, with the greatest of respect, you could eat a little more and still lose weight given your stats. If you feel very dissatisfied, I'd at least raise calories to 1400. To be honest, I am lighter than you and able to lose weight (OK, at a snail-slow pace, but still) at around 1700, leaving exercise calories out of the equation, which lets me enjoy big dinners and the occasional beer, chocolate bar etc.
    Eating a bit more may slow your weight loss (but that is not a bad thing at all), but on the flip side, you might find it easier to stick to, which means you WILL actually get there :)

    Currently eating about 1400 and not eating exercise (brisk walk to and from work) cals back and its slow going.

    Oooh i'd love to be on 1700!
  • mizzlarabee
    mizzlarabee Posts: 134 Member
    1200 is quite low, and is an absolute minimum, not an ideal. Your intake should be calculated to your current needs.

    It is but i struggle to lose, the first 14lbs i lost sticking to 1200 and eating back burned cals, i switched to 1400 as i was so miserable and then hit a bit of a rut. Lost a pound the other week but still struggling. The curse of being short and not *that* overweight with PCOS.

    Whole thing is pretty miserable.

    Aww don't be so hard on yourself. I have PCOS as well, so I can relate. I calculated your maintenance to be ~1850 calories based on what info you gave, so 1400 is about right, but that's with no exercise. If you do add in exercise then you could increase your calories a bit. Understand that a slow loss is the best approach, and I know we want it all to happen at once but a long-term decrease is going to be the easiest to transition into a life long state.
  • Charliecatesq
    Charliecatesq Posts: 100 Member
    1200 is quite low, and is an absolute minimum, not an ideal. Your intake should be calculated to your current needs.

    It is but i struggle to lose, the first 14lbs i lost sticking to 1200 and eating back burned cals, i switched to 1400 as i was so miserable and then hit a bit of a rut. Lost a pound the other week but still struggling. The curse of being short and not *that* overweight with PCOS.

    Whole thing is pretty miserable.

    Aww don't be so hard on yourself. I have PCOS as well, so I can relate. I calculated your maintenance to be ~1850 calories based on what info you gave, so 1400 is about right, but that's with no exercise. If you do add in exercise then you could increase your calories a bit. Understand that a slow loss is the best approach, and I know we want it all to happen at once but a long-term decrease is going to be the easiest to transition into a life long state.

    Thats good to know you got the same number i did. I shall have to look enviously at people that can eat some more! Hopefully i will have another lb off next week and i can stop worrying!

    Thanks for taking the time to reply :)
  • Charliecatesq
    Charliecatesq Posts: 100 Member
    yesimpson wrote: »
    Just seen you have PCOS - does this affect your maintenance calorie level, and therefore how much you need to eat to lose weight? My first comment might not be pertinent if so.

    Makes things a lot harder when it comes to weightloss but GP has been less than helpful about what it really means.
  • mizzlarabee
    mizzlarabee Posts: 134 Member
    edited May 2015
    Thats good to know you got the same number i did. I shall have to look enviously at people that can eat some more! Hopefully i will have another lb off next week and i can stop worrying!

    Thanks for taking the time to reply :)

    No worries! Sometimes all it takes is some reassurance. Don't stress about the numbers -- the idea is just to start with an estimate (because really all we are doing is estimating anyway) and be consistent :)
  • Charliecatesq
    Charliecatesq Posts: 100 Member
    Thats good to know you got the same number i did. I shall have to look enviously at people that can eat some more! Hopefully i will have another lb off next week and i can stop worrying!

    Thanks for taking the time to reply :)

    No worries! Sometimes all it takes is some reassurance. Don't stress about the numbers -- the idea is just to start with an estimate (because really all we are doing is estimating anyway) and be consistent :)

    True, and honestly half the battle is the mental one. I've done 15lbs so i know i can, i am just feeling less than enthused!
  • Jpat0
    Jpat0 Posts: 201 Member
    edited May 2015
    Going by your height and weight. I think 1500 calories a day will be ideal. I agree with others, 1200 is too low for you. It's important to realize that no one gains weight overnight, so proper weight loss will also take a long time.

    Here is the math. 1 pound loss = 3500 calories. So lets take your ideal day where you take 10 000 steps and eat 1500 calories. Lets say you exercise 5/week, your maintenance calories is at 2000 (This is a total calorie deficit of 500). 10 000 calories burns roughly 400 calories. Adding that together, you have burned 400 + 500 = 900 calories/5 days. The other two days you can stay at 1500, resulting in 1000 calorie deficit in total. How many pounds will you burn in a week?

    pounds lost in a week = ((900x5) + 1000)/3500 = 1.3 pounds

    Please note that this is an ideal day, considering everything has been calculated accurately. I can provide you with my guesses and advice for why you're not losing weight.

    1. Inaccurate calorie intake: I know I had a problem with this. Getting a kitchen scale is a life saver. It helps to give a more accurate representation of what you're actually eating.
    2. You probably know this but since you have PCOS, eat high fiber foods, whole grain and vegetables more. Avoid sugary and processed foods. Eat 5 small meals instead of 3 large ones.
    3. Inaccurate estimation of burned calories: A heart rate monitor helps you keep track of what you're actually burning.

    Overestimating how many calories you've burned and underestimating calories consumed may be just keeping you at maintenance rather than at weight loss. If a HRM is not available, you can find work out videos online that burn 500-600 calories. I think increasing your exercise regimen will benefit you.

    If you decrease your exercise or stop, your maintenance calorie goes down to 1800. So if you continue to eat 1500 while not working out, that's just 300 calorie deficit. It will take you approximately 12 days to lose 1 pound. This goes to show how important exercise is.

    A very important thing to note is that although these are rough estimates, the math is solid. It may not be too far from your actual values.

    I hope this helps.
  • bennett180790
    bennett180790 Posts: 20 Member
    Sweetie i eat 1928 calories a day and i weigh 11st 5lbs. you need to ensure if you exercise that your net is still 1400 (if that is what you set) but i would say you could eat 1600. got to iifym.com and work out your cals there :)
  • Charliecatesq
    Charliecatesq Posts: 100 Member
    Thanks everyone, will have a good read and a think
  • CupcakeQueen86
    CupcakeQueen86 Posts: 76 Member
    ooh this has helped me too so thank you :)
    I thought I was eating too much at 1400 cals, I'm 5'7, 12.1 stones.
  • HeySwoleSister
    HeySwoleSister Posts: 1,938 Member
    I think 2 pounds a week is too much for someone with as little to lose as you.

    Also, with PCOS, you may respond to a change in your macro balance. Check and see if MFP has a PCOS group, I'm sure there are many women who can tell you what's worked for them.
  • Charliecatesq
    Charliecatesq Posts: 100 Member
    I think 2 pounds a week is too much for someone with as little to lose as you.

    Also, with PCOS, you may respond to a change in your macro balance. Check and see if MFP has a PCOS group, I'm sure there are many women who can tell you what's worked for them.

    Little to lose? I need to lose about 50/60lbs?
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