Can I leave mfp temporarily?
gabrielleelliott90
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I mean, I'm 9 stone 5, I'm 163cm/5'4. I am eating 1200 cal and I am not satisfied with the weightloss I'm getting because it's meant to be up to 2lb per week, not month. So far I've lose a lb in a month, and it's not ideal. My goal weight is 8 stone 7. I want to try and have a break from MFP, And see if a different way will work. For example, I'd not log on MFP, I would just have three small meals a day (I don't have much room in my stomach for big portions), possibly one snack and drink a lot of water, I use waterbalance for this to keep a track of my intake. Would that work?
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I must add when I was eating 1615 and not eating back exercise cal, I was getting basically the same weightloss- a lb a month.0
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Have you calculated your BMR and TDEE? I'm the same height as you and currently weigh 9 stone 7.8. My goal is also similar to yours at 8 stone 5. When I first joined MFP in January I lost a few lbs but mostly water weight and then after that I hardly lost anything at all, in fact for 2 months I only lost a total of 2lbs and I was doing the 5:2 diet (a form of intermittent fasting) where I ate 550 calories twice a week and on the other days I ate 1650 which averaged out to around 1350 per day across the week.
I have since started implementing a new form of intermittent fasting where I fast overnight for 16-18 hours which basically means skipping breakfast, and then when I start eating again at around lunchtime I eat within a 5-7 hour window. I often exercise before I eat in the morning so by doing this you are forcing your body to use fat for energy.
In addition I have lowered my calorie intake on the 5 days a week I eat higher calories to 1350-1400 maximum (which averages out to 1150 per day) and made sure that my carbs are kept at around 100g maximum per day, although there is usually 1 day a week where my carb intake is higher due to eating out etc.
By doing all of this my weight has finally started to move and I'm now losing about 1-1.5lbs a week. I am also able to control my appetite a lot better by skipping breakfast and I know that it's helping me shift the weight and body fat due to the extended fasting period.
I personally find it better to do 5:2 as I can eat a little more 5 days a week and less on the other 2 days so I give my body a break on those days and I feel less bloated. The is a group on here for 5:2 fasting if you're interested, but if not I would suggest continuing to log calories as it's easy to overeat without realising it if you don't. Maybe try doing intermittent fasting too by extending your overnight fast and try eating in a smaller window during the day. Finally I would suggest (if you don't already) watching your carbohydrate intake. I was eating a lot of sugary foods and that pushed my carbs right up. Now I try and have only the occasional treat and avoid bread, rice, pasta and potatoes unless I eat them in small quantities.
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gabrielleelliott90 wrote: »I mean, I'm 9 stone 5, I'm 163cm/5'4. I am eating 1200 cal and I am not satisfied with the weightloss I'm getting because it's meant to be up to 2lb per week, not month. So far I've lose a lb in a month, and it's not ideal. My goal weight is 8 stone 7. I want to try and have a break from MFP, And see if a different way will work. For example, I'd not log on MFP, I would just have three small meals a day (I don't have much room in my stomach for big portions), possibly one snack and drink a lot of water, I use waterbalance for this to keep a track of my intake. Would that work?
You have SO little to lose that you are not going to be able to lose 2lb a week in any healthy sustainable way. You should be looking at 0.5lb a week loss possibly less.
Have a break by all means but if you don't weigh and measure your calorie intake you will not lose any quicker. You'll likely gain weight.
Why are you hell bent on losing so much in such a short space of time when you are already at an ideal weight for your height???0 -
gabrielleelliott90 wrote: »I must add when I was eating 1615 and not eating back exercise cal, I was getting basically the same weightloss- a lb a month.
Were you eating 1200 calories and eating back you exercise calories?
If you were I predict that unless your were weighing your food and logging accurately you may have under estimated your food intake daily and may have been eating back too many exercise calories (due to MFP over estimations)... This would essentially put you eating at maintenance just like you did when you were eating at the 1600 calorie mark..
If this is the case, this is really really easy to do, and all it takes is a food scale, diligent and accurate logging and eating back a small portion of the MFP calculated calories for exercise...
If this is not the case, leaving MFP will put you eating at maintenance again which I do not think you need to do, I think you need to eat less by adhering to the MFP deficit (calorie and exercise precise logging)..
just a thought... read through these...
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/872212/youre-probably-eating-more-than-you-think/p1
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1234699-logging-accurately-sep-by-step-guide
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p1
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gabrielleelliott90 wrote: »it's meant to be up to 2lb per week, not month.
Where are you getting this from? Can you achieve a 1000 calorie a day deduction from your TDEE to achieve a 2lb a week weight loss?
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gabrielleelliott90 wrote: »I mean, I'm 9 stone 5, I'm 163cm/5'4. I am eating 1200 cal and I am not satisfied with the weightloss I'm getting because it's meant to be up to 2lb per week, not month. So far I've lose a lb in a month, and it's not ideal. My goal weight is 8 stone 7. I want to try and have a break from MFP, And see if a different way will work. For example, I'd not log on MFP, I would just have three small meals a day (I don't have much room in my stomach for big portions), possibly one snack and drink a lot of water, I use waterbalance for this to keep a track of my intake. Would that work?
You have SO little to lose that you are not going to be able to lose 2lb a week in any healthy sustainable way. You should be looking at 0.5lb a week loss possibly less.
Have a break by all means but if you don't weigh and measure your calorie intake you will not lose any quicker. You'll likely gain weight.
Why are you hell bent on losing so much in such a short space of time when you are already at an ideal weight for your height???
This.
Also, it's not a cult. You can leave any time you like. Many people use MFP to learn healthy habits, gain a better understanding of portion sizes and calorie counts, and once they are comfortable in maintenance they do not continue to log their food daily. Some stay on because there are so many awesome people in the forums though!
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Aimerace being a healthy weight for your height is not the be all and end all. When I started on here in January I was at the highest healthy weight for my height at 10 stone 8, but I had 33.5% body fat which was really really high for my size. I'm a very small build with tiny wrists and ankles and a small waist so at that weight I looked really big.
Now I'm around 9 stone 8 I look better and my body fat has come down a little and I've lost inches so I do look smaller, but I am still carrying 30% body fat which is far from ideal.
My goal is similar to the OP because having been 8 stone 9 at my lightest I was not where I wanted to be and I'm now aiming for a minimum of 8 stone 5 because for my frame I know this would suit me better. I am also personally aiming to get my body fat down to around 20% if I can, because I know this will be healthier and later on I will be looking at gaining a little muscle so if I end up at 9 stone with lower body fat and more muscle I'll be happy.
It's really not about how 'little' you weigh, we're all built differently and even at the same height you can look fat or thin depending on your body shape, fat distribution and other factors.0 -
I wasn't saying it is... What I was saying is the OP has posted so many threads about her weight loss that you would think she was massively obese. My point was at a healthy weight for her height it will be HARDER to lose and will take longer.
Impatience gets us nowhere.0 -
gabrielleelliott90 wrote: »I mean, I'm 9 stone 5, I'm 163cm/5'4. I am eating 1200 cal and I am not satisfied with the weightloss I'm getting because it's meant to be up to 2lb per week, not month. So far I've lose a lb in a month, and it's not ideal. My goal weight is 8 stone 7. I want to try and have a break from MFP, And see if a different way will work. For example, I'd not log on MFP, I would just have three small meals a day (I don't have much room in my stomach for big portions), possibly one snack and drink a lot of water, I use waterbalance for this to keep a track of my intake. Would that work?
Thats not too bad in my opinion
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I agree with that. My weight has always gone up and down and I've always lost weight in the past by eating very low calorie and I was always able to lose 2-3lbs a week by doing this but the weight went right back on as soon as I ate normally again. Now I'm losing much more slowly than I'd like but for the first time in my life I am able to eat enough to keep me feeling satisfied while dieting and I have not really eliminated any foods from my diet completely which is great.
Now I'm more than happy to see a 1lb weekly weight loss and last week I even had a few days off due to a family visit so I probably won't lose anything this week but it's ok because I know that in 2-3 months I'll be at my goal weight and it's really not that far away.0 -
People who are already at a normal weight range need to lose weight at a much slower pace IF they are interested in mostly losing fat.
Large deficits will NOT work because you do not have a high enough quantity of freely available fat to lose and your chance of losing non fat mass is comparatively increased.
If (because of your height, age, sex, weight, lifestyle) you have a relatively low TDEE you will find it extremely difficult (and unhealthy) to maintain the caloric deficits you need in order to sustain a large weekly weight loss.
If we take 3500 as an approximation of a lb of fat, which is probably what you want to get rid off, this means a deficit of about 500 calories a day.
If your TDEE is 1600, such a deficit would require you to eat less than what is generally considered safe and sustainable unless under medical supervision and with a lot of available fat to lose.
Depending on your previous history you may be entering into this with a metabolism that is already adapted to living on less calories. This would make things harder as your real TDEE would be less than what the available calculators estimate. Thus what you think is a 400 calorie deficitonly be only 200.
On top of that exercise (hormones, salt) and other causes of water weight changes may make it extremely difficult to figure out your actual underlying weight (fat) change.
Most people within a normal weight range would probably be better served long term by eating near maintenance and trying to build muscle (body recomp) as opposed to trying to lose weight by restricting calories and potentially triggering metabolic adaptations.... and certainly large or prolonged deficits are not great ideas.
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Have you calculated your BMR and TDEE? I'm the same height as you and currently weigh 9 stone 7.8. My goal is also similar to yours at 8 stone 5. When I first joined MFP in January I lost a few lbs but mostly water weight and then after that I hardly lost anything at all, in fact for 2 months I only lost a total of 2lbs and I was doing the 5:2 diet (a form of intermittent fasting) where I ate 550 calories twice a week and on the other days I ate 1650 which averaged out to around 1350 per day across the week.
I have since started implementing a new form of intermittent fasting where I fast overnight for 16-18 hours which basically means skipping breakfast, and then when I start eating again at around lunchtime I eat within a 5-7 hour window. I often exercise before I eat in the morning so by doing this you are forcing your body to use fat for energy.
In addition I have lowered my calorie intake on the 5 days a week I eat higher calories to 1350-1400 maximum (which averages out to 1150 per day) and made sure that my carbs are kept at around 100g maximum per day, although there is usually 1 day a week where my carb intake is higher due to eating out etc.
By doing all of this my weight has finally started to move and I'm now losing about 1-1.5lbs a week. I am also able to control my appetite a lot better by skipping breakfast and I know that it's helping me shift the weight and body fat due to the extended fasting period.
I personally find it better to do 5:2 as I can eat a little more 5 days a week and less on the other 2 days so I give my body a break on those days and I feel less bloated. The is a group on here for 5:2 fasting if you're interested, but if not I would suggest continuing to log calories as it's easy to overeat without realising it if you don't. Maybe try doing intermittent fasting too by extending your overnight fast and try eating in a smaller window during the day. Finally I would suggest (if you don't already) watching your carbohydrate intake. I was eating a lot of sugary foods and that pushed my carbs right up. Now I try and have only the occasional treat and avoid bread, rice, pasta and potatoes unless I eat them in small quantities.
I was told to eat 1615 as tdee.....same results as 1200
I've been looking into intermittent fasting for a while, thank you, might have to try it.
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I'm pretty sure you can do whatever you want...I'm certainly not contractually obligated to MFP or anything.0
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yes you can leave
But looking at your diary i would suggest you start weighing your food on a food scale
You eat more calories than you think
And weightloss is not linear and also slower the closer you get to your healthy goal weight ( less to lose)
But here a short video about the difference of hundreds of calories when you measure or go by serving sizes and weighing your food on a food scale
I should suggest thighten up your logging OP and get more accurate!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY 0 -
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gabrielleelliott90 wrote: »I mean, I'm 9 stone 5, I'm 163cm/5'4. I am eating 1200 cal and I am not satisfied with the weightloss I'm getting because it's meant to be up to 2lb per week, not month. So far I've lose a lb in a month, and it's not ideal. My goal weight is 8 stone 7. I want to try and have a break from MFP, And see if a different way will work. For example, I'd not log on MFP, I would just have three small meals a day (I don't have much room in my stomach for big portions), possibly one snack and drink a lot of water, I use waterbalance for this to keep a track of my intake. Would that work?
You have SO little to lose that you are not going to be able to lose 2lb a week in any healthy sustainable way. You should be looking at 0.5lb a week loss possibly less.
Have a break by all means but if you don't weigh and measure your calorie intake you will not lose any quicker. You'll likely gain weight.
Why are you hell bent on losing so much in such a short space of time when you are already at an ideal weight for your height???
I've been losing weight for two years (did Slimming world before MFP) And it's just been a long journey and I'm not at my target weight, and I just want to be there by now. I know it's a healthy weight but I still feel better when I'm at a bit more of a lower weight is all. I guess everyone has an ideal weight for themselves.
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when you are at a healthy range you lose very slowly first of all.
That you lost before was because you had more to lose.
The less you have to lose the slower it goes ( your deficit is getting smaller and smaller, to a point you are eating at maintenance even).
But like i said look at the video and your diary you have serving sizes in it. 1 medium fruit for example.
what is the weight?
You really eat more than you think and have to weigh your food on a food scale when you have that littlebit to lose.
Your deficit is very small.0 -
She eats more potato chips and Coke than she thinks? God, I hope not!TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »when you are at a healthy range you lose very slowly first of all.
That you lost before was because you had more to lose.
The less you have to lose the slower it goes ( your deficit is getting smaller and smaller, to a point you are eating at maintenance even).
But like i said look at the video and your diary you have serving sizes in it. 1 medium fruit for example.
what is the weight?
You really eat more than you think and have to weigh your food on a food scale when you have that littlebit to lose.
Your deficit is very small.
OP, you could improve the quality of your diet a lot - eat some vegetables and you'll probably be more full and satisfied and maybe not need to take a break.
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Yes, you can stop logging at any time. Thing is, if you're not getting the results you want, you might not be using the tool correctly. The diary entries you have are all over the place:
-Homemade - Philadelphia, Ham, Cucumber and Yellow Pepper Wrap, 1 wrap: 206 calories (that's very specific. did you make it yourself?)
-Quick Added Calories, 250 calories
-generic - pizza sub , 2 pizza subs
-Generic - Chips Shop Chips - Per 100g, 200 g
You're probably eating more than you realize. Also- the most successful plans involve making small changes. I don't know how you will go from your current plan to "I would just have three small meals a day (I don't have much room in my stomach for big portions), possibly one snack and drink a lot of water." Right now your diet is 3-5 bags of potato chips + soda. Are you forgetting to log other food?0 -
You are a grown up. You can do whatever you want.0
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TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »yes you can leave
But looking at your diary i would suggest you start weighing your food on a food scale
You eat more calories than you think
And weightloss is not linear and also slower the closer you get to your healthy goal weight ( less to lose)
But here a short video about the difference of hundreds of calories when you measure or go by serving sizes and weighing your food on a food scale
I should suggest thighten up your logging OP and get more accurate!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY
I do weigh my food.0 -
If you don't want to use the tool, just stop logging in.
What am I missing here?0 -
You closed your diary???
why?? because i saw the serving sizes and the 1 medium fruit and 1 bag of this or that?
Well sorry i gave you my advice
When you dont lose weight ( which you do btw only slow) you consume to much calories....
Your journey your choices and i am outta here.
good luck with your weight loss.
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gabrielleelliott90 wrote: »I mean, I'm 9 stone 5, I'm 163cm/5'4. I am eating 1200 cal and I am not satisfied with the weightloss I'm getting because it's meant to be up to 2lb per week, not month. So far I've lose a lb in a month, and it's not ideal. My goal weight is 8 stone 7. I want to try and have a break from MFP, And see if a different way will work. For example, I'd not log on MFP, I would just have three small meals a day (I don't have much room in my stomach for big portions), possibly one snack and drink a lot of water, I use waterbalance for this to keep a track of my intake. Would that work?
That's a pretty low weight... You may find that concentrating on your bodyfat % instead of scale weight will help you. Losing another 10 pounds may well still leave you with squishy bits...
I agree with others though that you shouldn't be aiming for 2lb per week anyway.0 -
I wasn't saying it is... What I was saying is the OP has posted so many threads about her weight loss that you would think she was massively obese. My point was at a healthy weight for her height it will be HARDER to lose and will take longer.
Impatience gets us nowhere.
I'm not massively obese. I'm at a healthy weight. I post ''so much'' although it's been what ten threads since I joined which was about two years ago, because I don't know that much about weight loss.
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TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »You closed your diary???
why?? because i saw the serving sizes and the 1 medium fruit and 1 bag of this or that?
Well sorry i gave you my advice
When you dont lose weight ( which you do btw only slow) you consume to much calories....
Your journey your choices and i am outta here.
good luck with your weight loss.
No, I made it to friends only. I've been on the forums here and I know my diet is bad and I'm ashamed and did not know that my diary was still public. It wasn't anything personal. I just know there are some people on here who will call me out on the bad stuff I eat.0 -
Okay, so what I'm getting is, either do intermittent fasting, something I'll have to do more research on, or go back to TDEE and weigh my food more exact. Yes, I have been ''lazy'' in the past and just gone with generic things on MFP. However most things are calories from packaging. I'm not going to lie, I always feel pressure to be thin, I compare myself to a lot of people. I like the skinny look. That's how I like my body being. Everyone's different. That's why my goal is 8 and a half stone.0
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gabrielleelliott90 wrote: »TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »You closed your diary???
why?? because i saw the serving sizes and the 1 medium fruit and 1 bag of this or that?
Well sorry i gave you my advice
When you dont lose weight ( which you do btw only slow) you consume to much calories....
Your journey your choices and i am outta here.
good luck with your weight loss.
No, I made it to friends only. I've been on the forums here and I know my diet is bad and I'm ashamed and did not know that my diary was still public. It wasn't anything personal. I just know there are some people on here who will call me out on the bad stuff I eat.
I didn't see your diet so I can't speak to what you are eating but weight loss doesn't rely on eating "good" or "bad" stuff. It is dependent on calories in vs calories out. The best way to know how many calories are coming in is to weigh your food with a scale. If that is not possible, use measuring cups/spoons and don't jam them full to the gills. After that, the best thing to do is to learn how to eyeball measurements really well. Using "small apple" might work sometimes but it shouldn't be the main type of logging that you are doing.
You can absolutely leave MFP temporarily but just know that your body doesn't care if you are tracking with MFP or eating based on hunger or using some other method to keep track of your eating. It all comes down to CICO. Losing 2 pounds in a month at your height and weight is completely reasonable and healthy. If you stick with that, by the end of this year you could be 12-13 pounds lighter. Think about the long term, not the week you just finished.0 -
OP I just linked this in another thread, give this a read:
http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/0
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