Kids wearing makeup

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  • jpaulie
    jpaulie Posts: 917 Member
    My 6 year old puts on some makeup but only in the house or maybe for a wedding. The Cadeaux pics though, open shirt to the waist? really?
  • jonrenly
    jonrenly Posts: 116 Member
    icck wrote: »
    My 4 year old likes to have painted nails (like I do) and occasionally wear lip colour (again, like I do.) She also has a lot of days where she doesn't wear anything, funnily enough just like I do... children love to emulate the adults around them, and it is a parent's (or carer, family member, etc) responsibility to talk to them about things like makeup if they're expressing an interest. To ensure they grow up with a good relationship with any method of modifying your appearance, whether that be makeup, piercings, or colouring their hair.

    I totally agree with this and think this is a great approach whenever your child starts expressing interest in anything. Be the parent and talk to your child about the things they're taking an interest in and encourage them to pursue the things that make them happy, whatever they may be, in a healthy way. Completely forbidding something they enjoy doing, thats not hurting them or others, is not a good solution.
  • moledew
    moledew Posts: 71 Member


    I don't see why her mother is so upset. Lip gloss for most part seems harmless. My daughter did the same thing. She had the hand sanitizer from Justice that she clipped on her back pack. She had her chap stick. And I will tell you that my daughter is not big on makeup at 12. She doesn't have an interest but she did want to play with it when she was younger. As a matter of fact, I put full make up on her when she was in a school beauty pageant. She couldn't wait to get home to take it off.

    P.S. I am remarried and my husband's ex isn't easy to get along with. It may not be all tied to the makeup. Mixed families are sometimes hard. Good luck! [/quote]



    Yes! she bucks us on everything! She was recently laid off, we just bought a new vehicle and I have a feeling that is where this stemmed from but I really wanted other mother's opinions. I wear a face full everyday, i feel naked without it. But i also never look like Im wearing much and apparently and look "sick" when I dont. You can see in my pics that it really only looks like Im wearing eye liner and mascara. I just don't see how wearing lip gloss constitutes as makeup- i think she likes the flavor more than anything!
  • NewMeSM75
    NewMeSM75 Posts: 971 Member
    In response to the pics, I will add that I am the same way with clothes. Her dresses don't come up to her behind. Not due to pedophiles or anything like that either. Because I find it inappropriate. She can dress up like that for home but not for public.
  • jessicapk
    jessicapk Posts: 574 Member
    Let me rephrase the question:

    Do you think it's inappropriate for a woman to wear makeup? Would you allow a woman to walk in public with pink lip gloss or is that asking for a sexual predator to abduct them? Do you think all women that wear makeup are insecure and self conscious?

    Something rubs me the wrong way about the mentality that makeup= sexualized. It's paint for your face. Why does it effect other people and their lives so much?

    Makeup IS sexualized. Makeup like lipstick and lip gloss are meant to mimic the way a woman's lips will turn redder as she is sexually turned on. The same goes for cheeks and the use of blush. These are clear signs of arousal and the original purpose of makeup was to reproduce that look in order to increase the woman's attractiveness. Do we think of this when we put make up on? Probably not. But, do men respond to the reddened lips and cheeks? Yes, it's our inner primitive instincts.

    I don't think it is the sole reason that a pedophile or rapist would go after a woman but it certainly doesn't discourage it. I personally don't wear make up for the main reason that it's unnecessary and ends up clogging pores, irritating my eyes, etc. Most young girls who wear foundation end up wearing more to cover up the zits that are already popping up due to their changing hormones. Let kids be kids. If they're pre-puberty, a definite no for me. If they're teens, I'm okay but I would discourage it and encourage them to find their own sense of beauty without it.
  • CJisinShape
    CJisinShape Posts: 1,404 Member
    I have daughters. They don't wear makeup or nail polish. (Once I allowed clear nail polish on toes). They have had many special occasions (wedding, parties, performances) and on those occasions they wear beautiful dresses and jewelry, and I do their hair in an elaborate little girl hairstyle.

    It's not something we argue about - they know some things are for kids, some things for adults. They love their kid hair bows, clips, puffy dresses, etc. They feel beautiful and special without trying to look like an adult.
  • moledew
    moledew Posts: 71 Member
    salembambi wrote: »
    A. as someone who was / is a victim of a pedophile I can assure you that he never gave a *kitten* whether or not I had on some glitter gloss or purple eye shadow. I find it offensive that anyone would even suggest that a child playing with/wearing makeup is inviting sexual abuse. That it is in anyway at all ever a childs fault hell no. I wish I never read this thread to be honest
    b.let the little girls be little girls and if for them playing with fairy/princess/president/carebear makeup kits is fun let them be.



    Im so sorry to hear that and I apologize for any offense I may have caused. This is not my opinion though, just was her mother's excuse for not letting her wear it. I feel as if most child predators are obsessed with the innocence (which is a catch 22 because they completely rob children of it!!!) therefore, looking more mature is probably not something that entices them more. Although I still stick with the fact that having glittery lips isnt "mature". How many grown women wear glittery Estee Lauder??
  • moledew
    moledew Posts: 71 Member
    jessicapk wrote: »
    Let me rephrase the question:

    Do you think it's inappropriate for a woman to wear makeup? Would you allow a woman to walk in public with pink lip gloss or is that asking for a sexual predator to abduct them? Do you think all women that wear makeup are insecure and self conscious?

    Something rubs me the wrong way about the mentality that makeup= sexualized. It's paint for your face. Why does it effect other people and their lives so much?

    Makeup IS sexualized. Makeup like lipstick and lip gloss are meant to mimic the way a woman's lips will turn redder as she is sexually turned on. The same goes for cheeks and the use of blush. These are clear signs of arousal and the original purpose of makeup was to reproduce that look in order to increase the woman's attractiveness. Do we think of this when we put make up on? Probably not. But, do men respond to the reddened lips and cheeks? Yes, it's our inner primitive instincts.

    I don't think it is the sole reason that a pedophile or rapist would go after a woman but it certainly doesn't discourage it. I personally don't wear make up for the main reason that it's unnecessary and ends up clogging pores, irritating my eyes, etc. Most young girls who wear foundation end up wearing more to cover up the zits that are already popping up due to their changing hormones. Let kids be kids. If they're pre-puberty, a definite no for me. If they're teens, I'm okay but I would discourage it and encourage them to find their own sense of beauty without it.




    I admittedly don't know a whole lot about the history of make up but was it not first used on men? same goes for high heels? Either way, I agree that my girls will not wear a full face until they're well into their teen years and can properly put it on without looking like Bozo the clown IF the desire is even there for them. But right now, this is our bonding time. We play with hair, do our nails, she watches me do mine and puts on her chap-stick when I'm doing my lip stick. I think its adorable when she stands there watching me completely intrigued. I had to teach her how to dry her hair after showering (with the towel) and brush it because her mom is THAT against vanity. Brushed hair, who needs it?!
  • jonrenly
    jonrenly Posts: 116 Member
    jessicapk wrote: »
    Let me rephrase the question:

    Do you think it's inappropriate for a woman to wear makeup? Would you allow a woman to walk in public with pink lip gloss or is that asking for a sexual predator to abduct them? Do you think all women that wear makeup are insecure and self conscious?

    Something rubs me the wrong way about the mentality that makeup= sexualized. It's paint for your face. Why does it effect other people and their lives so much?

    Makeup IS sexualized. Makeup like lipstick and lip gloss are meant to mimic the way a woman's lips will turn redder as she is sexually turned on. The same goes for cheeks and the use of blush. These are clear signs of arousal and the original purpose of makeup was to reproduce that look in order to increase the woman's attractiveness. Do we think of this when we put make up on? Probably not. But, do men respond to the reddened lips and cheeks? Yes, it's our inner primitive instincts.

    I don't think it is the sole reason that a pedophile or rapist would go after a woman but it certainly doesn't discourage it. I personally don't wear make up for the main reason that it's unnecessary and ends up clogging pores, irritating my eyes, etc. Most young girls who wear foundation end up wearing more to cover up the zits that are already popping up due to their changing hormones. Let kids be kids. If they're pre-puberty, a definite no for me. If they're teens, I'm okay but I would discourage it and encourage them to find their own sense of beauty without it.


    So help me out here, what should I wear to discourage the primitive caveman who simply cannot help himself from attacking a pretty looking woman from choosing me as his target? A burqa? Thanks for your help
  • NewMeSM75
    NewMeSM75 Posts: 971 Member
    edited May 2015
    I think her mom has something in her past that has her fearful. I was molested by my uncle. Not as extreme as some have experience but it went on for a long time. I was between 5 and 6 years old. My goal in life is to not only protect my children but also educate them. We talked about their private areas, talked about what to do if someone touches them, I know signs, and to this day, there is nothing that I won't discuss with my children. I remember my dad saying if anyone touched my daughter he would kill them so I wouldn't tell. I made sure to let my kids know that they can talk to me about ANYTHING. I don't want my past to affect my daughter's self confidence. I wasn't wearing make up, didn't dress inappropriate either. I was 5. I want my daughter to have a happy childhood. I want her to grow up with confidence. I was her to be educated. Will it stop someone from violating her? Heck no. But that's all I can do as a mother. Teaching her that if she wears lip gloss, she may get attacked is ridiculous. I will not teach her to not have good hygiene in order to void off attackers. I'm no expert but alot of attacks happen not solely for purpose of sex but for control. Not because of pink lip gloss or red nail polish.

    I use this same logic with my son's. I will discuss stds, safe sex and everything. I even had the private area talk with my son because boys get violated too. Not discussing something in life doesn't make it go away.

    Other person, I think you have wonderful bonding time. You have a good heart. Enjoy that little girl. Sounds like you're creating wonderful memories.
  • BaconBae
    BaconBae Posts: 4,568 Member
    edited May 2015
    I have a 5 1/2 year old and tell her everyday she's smart, beautiful, love herself first and foremost and be herself. She sees me putting on makeup and she asked me once why I put it on, for which I wasn't sure exactly how to answer. She asks if I can put pretend makeup on her and I pretend like I do, but really nothing goes on her face and she knows that. I, myself, only wear makeup when I go to work or on special occasions. I'm divorced, but my daughter's father and I are very much in sync about not letting our daughter wear makeup/nail polish and just be a little girl. We both do feel as if it is protraying her in an adult like manner and expediting her growth - she plays dressup and all that other little girl stuff, so she's not deprived. My daughter's cousin and her mom are very into the dressup, gloss, and nail polish and we went to my daughter's cousin's birthday party where it was a "glam" party. My daughter wasn't interested anyway and gravitated to the arts & crafts. My daughter has a big birth mark on her cheek that is like a big splotch of brown, but she's never noticed it and I've never pointed it out either - I actually don't really notice it anymore. She's beautiful and it just makes her more special. When she becomes a teenager like midway through high school and she wants to wear makeup and cover it up, we'll talk about it and I'll let her tell me her feelings on it and let her independently make that decision.

    As to the pedophile part, I've been around many...I don't feel like it is a prerequisite for them to act, but like another poster above said, it definitely isn't a deterrant either.

    Just my thoughts...and this is a good post...get's you thinking.
  • MikaMojito
    MikaMojito Posts: 680 Member
    I would let my hypothetical daughter play with my make up but I wouldn't encourage it. And unless it was Fasching (German festival where you dress up), I would not accept make up outside the house. Neither would I accept high heels. Not because of pedos or anything but because some things are for adults and some are for kids. I mean, the REASON behind make up is to make eyes bigger and lips redder because that's sexually attractive to men. That's not something a child should be trying to be.

    Around age 13 I'd TEACH my daughter how to apply make up properly but nowadays I thank my mum for ordering me to wash my face before school rather than letting me go to school with bright blue eyelids.
  • flabassmcgee
    flabassmcgee Posts: 659 Member
    jonrenly wrote: »
    jessicapk wrote: »
    Let me rephrase the question:

    Do you think it's inappropriate for a woman to wear makeup? Would you allow a woman to walk in public with pink lip gloss or is that asking for a sexual predator to abduct them? Do you think all women that wear makeup are insecure and self conscious?

    Something rubs me the wrong way about the mentality that makeup= sexualized. It's paint for your face. Why does it effect other people and their lives so much?

    Makeup IS sexualized. Makeup like lipstick and lip gloss are meant to mimic the way a woman's lips will turn redder as she is sexually turned on. The same goes for cheeks and the use of blush. These are clear signs of arousal and the original purpose of makeup was to reproduce that look in order to increase the woman's attractiveness. Do we think of this when we put make up on? Probably not. But, do men respond to the reddened lips and cheeks? Yes, it's our inner primitive instincts.

    I don't think it is the sole reason that a pedophile or rapist would go after a woman but it certainly doesn't discourage it. I personally don't wear make up for the main reason that it's unnecessary and ends up clogging pores, irritating my eyes, etc. Most young girls who wear foundation end up wearing more to cover up the zits that are already popping up due to their changing hormones. Let kids be kids. If they're pre-puberty, a definite no for me. If they're teens, I'm okay but I would discourage it and encourage them to find their own sense of beauty without it.


    So help me out here, what should I wear to discourage the primitive caveman who simply cannot help himself from attacking a pretty looking woman from choosing me as his target? A burqa? Thanks for your help

    Bingo.
  • _incogNEATo_
    _incogNEATo_ Posts: 4,537 Member
    jessicapk wrote: »
    Let me rephrase the question:

    Do you think it's inappropriate for a woman to wear makeup? Would you allow a woman to walk in public with pink lip gloss or is that asking for a sexual predator to abduct them? Do you think all women that wear makeup are insecure and self conscious?

    Something rubs me the wrong way about the mentality that makeup= sexualized. It's paint for your face. Why does it effect other people and their lives so much?

    Makeup IS sexualized. Makeup like lipstick and lip gloss are meant to mimic the way a woman's lips will turn redder as she is sexually turned on. The same goes for cheeks and the use of blush. These are clear signs of arousal and the original purpose of makeup was to reproduce that look in order to increase the woman's attractiveness. Do we think of this when we put make up on? Probably not. But, do men respond to the reddened lips and cheeks? Yes, it's our inner primitive instincts.

    I don't think it is the sole reason that a pedophile or rapist would go after a woman but it certainly doesn't discourage it. I personally don't wear make up for the main reason that it's unnecessary and ends up clogging pores, irritating my eyes, etc. Most young girls who wear foundation end up wearing more to cover up the zits that are already popping up due to their changing hormones. Let kids be kids. If they're pre-puberty, a definite no for me. If they're teens, I'm okay but I would discourage it and encourage them to find their own sense of beauty without it.

    You know what encourages a pedophile or rapist to attack? The fact that you are a living, breathing, human being (in most cases).
  • Scarlett_ptista
    Scarlett_ptista Posts: 22 Member
    Let me rephrase the question:

    Do you think it's inappropriate for a woman to wear makeup? Would you allow a woman to walk in public with pink lip gloss or is that asking for a sexual predator to abduct them? Do you think all women that wear makeup are insecure and self conscious?

    Something rubs me the wrong way about the mentality that makeup= sexualized. It's paint for your face. Why does it effect other people and their lives so much?


    *Slow clap*
  • getitamb
    getitamb Posts: 2,019 Member
    Not out of the house. But around the house it's fine. And no problem with maybe a barely there lip gloss
  • dgoodie92
    dgoodie92 Posts: 624 Member
    As the father of a little girl I'd like to say. .

    NO! Nuh! No! Not until her teens!!

    Also, No Dating till I'm dead! No boys at home, No male BFF who winks at me when I say behave.
  • LiftAndBalance
    LiftAndBalance Posts: 960 Member
    jessicapk wrote: »
    Let me rephrase the question:

    Do you think it's inappropriate for a woman to wear makeup? Would you allow a woman to walk in public with pink lip gloss or is that asking for a sexual predator to abduct them? Do you think all women that wear makeup are insecure and self conscious?

    Something rubs me the wrong way about the mentality that makeup= sexualized. It's paint for your face. Why does it effect other people and their lives so much?

    Makeup IS sexualized. Makeup like lipstick and lip gloss are meant to mimic the way a woman's lips will turn redder as she is sexually turned on. The same goes for cheeks and the use of blush. These are clear signs of arousal and the original purpose of makeup was to reproduce that look in order to increase the woman's attractiveness. Do we think of this when we put make up on? Probably not. But, do men respond to the reddened lips and cheeks? Yes, it's our inner primitive instincts.

    I don't think it is the sole reason that a pedophile or rapist would go after a woman but it certainly doesn't discourage it. I personally don't wear make up for the main reason that it's unnecessary and ends up clogging pores, irritating my eyes, etc. Most young girls who wear foundation end up wearing more to cover up the zits that are already popping up due to their changing hormones. Let kids be kids. If they're pre-puberty, a definite no for me. If they're teens, I'm okay but I would discourage it and encourage them to find their own sense of beauty without it.

    ind1983 wrote: »
    As to the pedophile part, I've been around many...I don't feel like it is a prerequisite for them to act, but like another poster above said, it definitely isn't a deterrant either.

    Would you teach that your daughters? Don't wear make-up, don't wear short skirts, don't look pretty or you'll encourage being raped? Really? And here I was thinking our society had moved past victim blaming.

    What exactly should little girls (and boys) and grown-up women (and men) do to deter paedophiles and rapists?
    jonrenly wrote: »
    ...
    So help me out here, what should I wear to discourage the primitive caveman who simply cannot help himself from attacking a pretty looking woman from choosing me as his target? A burqa? Thanks for your help

    You, I like!
  • sbtnicky
    sbtnicky Posts: 8 Member
    Honestly, I'm far more concerned about ensuring my daughter knows that her fashion choices have no impact on whether or not she's attacked. Particularly since the vast majority of children are sexually assaulted by relatives or close family friends who certainly have occasion to see her without childishly applied play make up.

    Even assuming make up does magically entice adults into messing with prepubescent children, are you (general you) really going to tell me that glitter eyeshadow and lip gloss that ends up mostly around her lips rather than on them is attractive? If anything I think it makes her look more obviously like a child. I still don't allow it outside of play time, but that's just because I want to be consistent for when she gets older and can make herself look seventeen rather than twelve. I figure horny teenagers are a more practical concern than paedophiles.
  • tat2cookie
    tat2cookie Posts: 1,899 Member
    As a mother of 3 girls, I can only do and teach what I think is best for MY kids. My older 2 are 11 and 9. They had girls in their class showing up with high lights, 4in heels, eye liner and red lips in the 2nd grade. While my girls get flavored lip gloss. I'm far from a perfect parent so I won't judge another's parents choice of what they allow their child to do as long as it's not harming anyone. I did let them have a small pink streak in their hair last summer, and they have colorful nail polishes. I let them play with makeup at home, but they know no makeup out of the house till they are 13, and even they it will be light. Right now my 11 yr old is trying to convince us to let her have dreadlocks.... I'm actually contemplating it.
    As far as pedophiles go. They will look no matter what you do. But I feel that when you start to dress little girls up like women (like in the Picts above), then lines become blurred and men start looking. I saw a mother and daughter at the mall last week and overheard the mom talking. I would have sworn the daughter was in her late teens early 20's. High heels, micro mini, crop top, bleach blonde hair and enough make up to put Tammy Faye Baker to shame..... She was 12. I saw grown men look her up and down, not knowing her age. To me that isn't ok. But then I'm not her mom. I seriously feel bad for guys these days. Can't talk to a cute girl cause you can't tell if she's 13 or 23.
  • NewMeSM75
    NewMeSM75 Posts: 971 Member
    tat2cookie wrote: »
    As a mother of 3 girls, I can only do and teach what I think is best for MY kids. My older 2 are 11 and 9. They had girls in their class showing up with high lights, 4in heels, eye liner and red lips in the 2nd grade. While my girls get flavored lip gloss. I'm far from a perfect parent so I won't judge another's parents choice of what they allow their child to do as long as it's not harming anyone. I did let them have a small pink streak in their hair last summer, and they have colorful nail polishes. I let them play with makeup at home, but they know no makeup out of the house till they are 13, and even they it will be light. Right now my 11 yr old is trying to convince us to let her have dreadlocks.... I'm actually contemplating it.
    As far as pedophiles go. They will look no matter what you do. But I feel that when you start to dress little girls up like women (like in the Picts above), then lines become blurred and men start looking. I saw a mother and daughter at the mall last week and overheard the mom talking. I would have sworn the daughter was in her late teens early 20's. High heels, micro mini, crop top, bleach blonde hair and enough make up to put Tammy Faye Baker to shame..... She was 12. I saw grown men look her up and down, not knowing her age. To me that isn't ok. But then I'm not her mom. I seriously feel bad for guys these days. Can't talk to a cute girl cause you can't tell if she's 13 or 23.

    Totally agree!
  • allyphoe
    allyphoe Posts: 618 Member
    Not your kids? Not your business. Your kids? Not anyone else's business.

    If a boy's behavior towards a "cute girl" who is enough of a stranger to him that he doesn't know her age is inappropriate when directed at a 13yo, the issue is that he's behaving inappropriately, not that the girl isn't accurately broadcasting her sexual availability status.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,029 Member
    I let my daughter a 7 do it. She'll be 11 in July and doesn't have much interest in it now. I just wish she'd brush her hair more.

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  • tesha_chandler
    tesha_chandler Posts: 378 Member
    I don't have a little girl, but personally I probably wouldn't allow her to play with make-up, and I definitely wouldn't let her wear it out of the house. As a mother, I feel like a childhood should be spent building up self confidence and I wouldn't want her to mistake make-up for a way of getting confidence.. if that makes sense? lol
  • justcat206
    justcat206 Posts: 716 Member
    I grew up on the stage and started wearing makeup for performances when I was in elementary school. You know what I learned from the experience? That's it's a special occasion thing and a huge pain to put on and take off so definitely not something I'd want to do every day. I didn't start wearing makeup regularly until I was a grown up with a job and trying to look older (I've always looked really young for my age). My daughter takes ballet and wears makeup for recitals even though she's only 5. Again, she thinks it's fun, but also knows that it's not practical for play because it gets everywhere. I don't think there's any harm in playing with makeup - in fact it may take some of the mystery out of it and make it seem less enticing. But if my daughter wanted to start wearing it all the time we'd definitely have a conversation about natural beauty and such like things.
  • Timshel_
    Timshel_ Posts: 22,834 Member
    justcat206 wrote: »
    I grew up on the stage and started wearing makeup for performances when I was in elementary school.

    My son is in dance and has been since he was 9. Same with all the girls he is around. The girls all dress up and wear make up. This is the norm up through girls that are in high school.

    Like most things anymore, I think (American media especially) has over-hyped sexuality to the point I don't even feel comfortable telling my niece she looks "pretty" because people around just see a forty year old man complimenting a young girl and think everything is sexually charged.

    Seriously...make-up is not the issue, imho.
  • moledew
    moledew Posts: 71 Member
    justcat206 wrote: »
    I grew up on the stage and started wearing makeup for performances when I was in elementary school. You know what I learned from the experience? That's it's a special occasion thing and a huge pain to put on and take off so definitely not something I'd want to do every day. I didn't start wearing makeup regularly until I was a grown up with a job and trying to look older (I've always looked really young for my age). My daughter takes ballet and wears makeup for recitals even though she's only 5. Again, she thinks it's fun, but also knows that it's not practical for play because it gets everywhere. I don't think there's any harm in playing with makeup - in fact it may take some of the mystery out of it and make it seem less enticing. But if my daughter wanted to start wearing it all the time we'd definitely have a conversation about natural beauty and such like things.


    This! I feel like anytime we force kids not to do something, it makes them want to rebel even more as soon as they get a bit of freedom. I mean that in a blanket statement kind of way because this isn't the case for ALL kids or ALL situations but I used to work with a lady that had 4 kids, all under 10 years old. She said they all cussed like sailors at home but knew it wasn't appropriate outside of the safety of their 4 walls. I personally would not tolerate my 9 year old dropping F bombs but her reasoning was that it takes the mystery and excitement out of it and the older they got, the more she realized they were cutting back because they felt they were useless words and found better ways of expressing themselves.
    Like I said, this particular situation IS NOT something I'm comfortable with but I agree with her theory. Anytime your kids want to do something "bad", its better they come to you or at least feel comfortable coming to the parents and talking about it. At that point you can (continue to ) guide them in the right direction of your personal philosophy. I can say that every friend I had that was locked down and had super judgmental/uptight parents went absolutely crazy in college with that first taste of freedom and that's not something I want from my girls. I'd much rather they make their mistakes under my supervision because lets be real, they're GOING to make bad decisions at some point or another.
  • BaconBae
    BaconBae Posts: 4,568 Member
    jessicapk wrote: »
    Let me rephrase the question:

    Do you think it's inappropriate for a woman to wear makeup? Would you allow a woman to walk in public with pink lip gloss or is that asking for a sexual predator to abduct them? Do you think all women that wear makeup are insecure and self conscious?

    Something rubs me the wrong way about the mentality that makeup= sexualized. It's paint for your face. Why does it effect other people and their lives so much?

    Makeup IS sexualized. Makeup like lipstick and lip gloss are meant to mimic the way a woman's lips will turn redder as she is sexually turned on. The same goes for cheeks and the use of blush. These are clear signs of arousal and the original purpose of makeup was to reproduce that look in order to increase the woman's attractiveness. Do we think of this when we put make up on? Probably not. But, do men respond to the reddened lips and cheeks? Yes, it's our inner primitive instincts.

    I don't think it is the sole reason that a pedophile or rapist would go after a woman but it certainly doesn't discourage it. I personally don't wear make up for the main reason that it's unnecessary and ends up clogging pores, irritating my eyes, etc. Most young girls who wear foundation end up wearing more to cover up the zits that are already popping up due to their changing hormones. Let kids be kids. If they're pre-puberty, a definite no for me. If they're teens, I'm okay but I would discourage it and encourage them to find their own sense of beauty without it.

    ind1983 wrote: »
    As to the pedophile part, I've been around many...I don't feel like it is a prerequisite for them to act, but like another poster above said, it definitely isn't a deterrant either.

    Would you teach that your daughters? Don't wear make-up, don't wear short skirts, don't look pretty or you'll encourage being raped? Really? And here I was thinking our society had moved past victim blaming.

    What exactly should little girls (and boys) and grown-up women (and men) do to deter paedophiles and rapists?
    jonrenly wrote: »
    ...
    So help me out here, what should I wear to discourage the primitive caveman who simply cannot help himself from attacking a pretty looking woman from choosing me as his target? A burqa? Thanks for your help

    You, I like!

    I've been around a lot of this activity so I'm speaking from my own experiences and gathering the lessons from that and educating my daughter. I do feel like makeup does sexualize and on a little girl it would make her look more mature and send the wrong message. I'm definitely not victim blaming nor am I saying that I would tell my daughter not to look pretty - she doesn't have to try to look beautiful - she already is. I wouldn't allow her to wear short skirts anyway because in my opinion it is not classy...it's trashy. Plus she is 5.5 years old. When she is a teenager and IF she begins dressing differently or wearing makeup in a very flashy manner, I would have a conversation with her of why she is behaving so and determine if there is a void where she feels she needs to have attention and get to the root of the behavior.

    I teach my daughter self-defense and she takes boxing, along with other sports. She has a mean hook - of course you can't guarantee anything, but it's better to have some sort of defense against the a-holes of the world, including rapists, pedophiles, and bullies. I also teach my daughter the appropriate words for the female and male anatomy and that no one is supposed to touch her inappropriately. God forbid anything happens, to run away and scream - just make as much noise as possible to draw attention to get someone to help and of course to let her father and me to know. I also let her know that "bad people" are not only strangers, they can be people she knows as well. Besides school, her surroundings are closely monitored even around family gatherings.

    So, you can form your opinion and interpret what I said as you deem fit. However, we're all entitled to our own opinions and raise our children differently.
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