Caloric Deficit Cheat Sheet

Orphia
Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
edited November 18 in Health and Weight Loss
Hello, lovely MFP people. This is my first thread, so please be kind. :)

I discovered this article about a month ago, and it seems incredibly practical and sensible.

It's James Fell's "The Caloric Deficit Cheat Sheet".

http://www.bodyforwife.com/the-caloric-deficit-cheat-sheet/

I've read it numerous times since I first saw it, and think it's a pretty good summary of sane weight-loss.

But I'm relatively new to calorie-counting, so I'd like it if other, more experienced MFP folk gave it a read and critiqued it.

I'm open to hearing any criticisms you make.

Thank you.
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  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Orphia wrote: »
    Hello, lovely MFP people. This is my first thread, so please be kind. :)

    I discovered this article about a month ago, and it seems incredibly practical and sensible.

    It's James Fell's "The Caloric Deficit Cheat Sheet".

    http://www.bodyforwife.com/the-caloric-deficit-cheat-sheet/

    I've read it numerous times since I first saw it, and think it's a pretty good summary of sane weight-loss.

    But I'm relatively new to calorie-counting, so I'd like it if other, more experienced MFP folk gave it a read and critiqued it.

    I'm open to hearing any criticisms you make.

    Thank you.

    laughssssss

    (haven't even read link yet)

    :wink:
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    I think you might live :bigsmile:

    .. I take exception to his meal timing / place of eating style dictatorial stance, I feel this is irrelevant but on skim reading he makes good points

    he could almost be a regular MFPer tbh

  • Nony_Mouse
    Nony_Mouse Posts: 5,646 Member
    But it's Friday in the US now right? It's mandatory that we be mean :p.
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    edited May 2015
    Orphia wrote: »
    Hello, lovely MFP people. This is my first thread, so please be kind. :)

    I discovered this article about a month ago, and it seems incredibly practical and sensible.

    It's James Fell's "The Caloric Deficit Cheat Sheet".

    http://www.bodyforwife.com/the-caloric-deficit-cheat-sheet/

    I've read it numerous times since I first saw it, and think it's a pretty good summary of sane weight-loss.

    But I'm relatively new to calorie-counting, so I'd like it if other, more experienced MFP folk gave it a read and critiqued it.

    I'm open to hearing any criticisms you make.

    Thank you.

    It's pretty good - there are minor points I don't agree with but tested and found worthy.
    WB 8/10

    His argument against calorie counting or macro counting is weak, but he has a lot of reasonable advice.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    But it's Friday in the US now right? It's mandatory that we be mean :p.

    itsoctoberthird.jpg?w=300&h=169
  • isulo_kura
    isulo_kura Posts: 818 Member
    Lifters are more concerned about nutrition than runners are. Often, runners will use their activity as an excuse to eat and drink
    Holy Genralisation Batman!!!!!!!!!
  • tanklifetj
    tanklifetj Posts: 184 Member
    Not really a cheat sheet, more of a list of healthy eating idioms and general tips. Most of them are decent, but they are not focused and a bit broad to be of use for anything more than just "decent advice".
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    isulo_kura wrote: »
    Lifters are more concerned about nutrition than runners are. Often, runners will use their activity as an excuse to eat and drink
    Holy Genralisation Batman!!!!!!!!!

    Yeah, noticed that one. Lol.
    Why not both?

  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
    LOL, guys!
    isulo_kura wrote: »
    Lifters are more concerned about nutrition than runners are. Often, runners will use their activity as an excuse to eat and drink
    Holy Genralisation Batman!!!!!!!!!

    Good pickup.

  • Nony_Mouse
    Nony_Mouse Posts: 5,646 Member
    This is my favourite bit:
    Certain brainless invertebrates in the low-carb community will dispute the law of caloric balance. Screw them. You want to believe that manipulating macronutrients magically opens a rift in the space-time-insulin continuum that miraculously transports your belly fat to the fifth dimension? Fine, go do it somewhere else. On this website we deal with reality.
    *

    *Disclaimer - does not apply to all who do low carb (which I think is clear from the quote, just emphasising before someone pounces).
  • rigein24
    rigein24 Posts: 7 Member
    I thought it was great he was taking the no BS approach, but he soon delves into theories like "fasted cardio" and "shorter eating windows". Most people aren't interested in being so specific, making things more difficult than they need to be. A TL;DR version of his article should be: all that matters for people wanting to lose weight/body fat is your caloric balance. You will have to adapt new strategies in your life to accomplish this. Exercise when your schedule allows it, and do something you enjoy doing.

  • MonsoonStorm
    MonsoonStorm Posts: 371 Member
    isulo_kura wrote: »
    Lifters are more concerned about nutrition than runners are. Often, runners will use their activity as an excuse to eat and drink
    Holy Genralisation Batman!!!!!!!!!

    I think it's more a case of drinkers will use running as an opportunity to allow them to eat and drink ;)
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    Pu_239 wrote: »
    isulo_kura wrote: »
    Lifters are more concerned about nutrition than runners are. Often, runners will use their activity as an excuse to eat and drink
    Holy Genralisation Batman!!!!!!!!!

    There is some truth to that statement. It depends on what type of runners, and what type of lifters. I can see many runners saying "i exercised, i need a treat." people who are in to more body building atheistic, I don't see them really doing that. e.g. post workout for runners some large meal, post workout for bodybuilders a protein shake.

    A generalization is something that is true some of the time.
    It's still a generalization.
  • Cherimoose
    Cherimoose Posts: 5,208 Member
    Mostly good. It's not an issue of cardio OR weights - both are part of a good fitness plan, so you don't end up "skinny-fat".. with a reduced metabolism.. and weak.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Pu_239 wrote: »
    isulo_kura wrote: »
    Lifters are more concerned about nutrition than runners are. Often, runners will use their activity as an excuse to eat and drink
    Holy Genralisation Batman!!!!!!!!!

    There is some truth to that statement. It depends on what type of runners, and what type of lifters. I can see many runners saying "i exercised, i need a treat." people who are in to more body building atheistic, I don't see them really doing that. e.g. post workout for runners some large meal, post workout for bodybuilders a protein shake.

    A generalization is something that is true some of the time.
    It's still a generalization.

    I rather like you
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Pu_239 wrote: »
    Pu_239 wrote: »
    isulo_kura wrote: »
    Lifters are more concerned about nutrition than runners are. Often, runners will use their activity as an excuse to eat and drink
    Holy Genralisation Batman!!!!!!!!!

    There is some truth to that statement. It depends on what type of runners, and what type of lifters. I can see many runners saying "i exercised, i need a treat." people who are in to more body building atheistic, I don't see them really doing that. e.g. post workout for runners some large meal, post workout for bodybuilders a protein shake.

    A generalization is something that is true some of the time.
    It's still a generalization.

    Would it still be a generalization if it's true more often than not?

    you get what the word means right?
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
    All generalisations are false including this one.
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    Pu_239 wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Pu_239 wrote: »
    Pu_239 wrote: »
    isulo_kura wrote: »
    Lifters are more concerned about nutrition than runners are. Often, runners will use their activity as an excuse to eat and drink
    Holy Genralisation Batman!!!!!!!!!

    There is some truth to that statement. It depends on what type of runners, and what type of lifters. I can see many runners saying "i exercised, i need a treat." people who are in to more body building atheistic, I don't see them really doing that. e.g. post workout for runners some large meal, post workout for bodybuilders a protein shake.

    A generalization is something that is true some of the time.
    It's still a generalization.

    Would it still be a generalization if it's true more often than not?

    you get what the word means right?

    Yes, there is also the word "often" in the statment.

    "Lifters are more concerned about nutrition than runners are. Often, runners will use their activity as an excuse to eat and drink"

    Generalization
    a general statement : a statement about a group of people or things that is based on only a few people or things in that group

    : the act or process of forming opinions that are based on a small amount of information
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/generalization

    So it's NOT a generalization if MOST(not a few) people do it. SO the original statement by the author of the article is correct, and not a generalization.

    I'll just leave it at that.

    *headesk* - I shouldn't but...

    "Lifters are more concerned about nutrition than runners are. Often, runners will use their activity as an excuse to eat and drink"

    Pu, pu, pu... You see that first sentence?

    If the author had written "Some lifters are more concerned ... Or Often lifters are most concerned..." then you might have a leg to stand on. As it is the author wrote "Lifters [a group] are more concerned [a generalization] than runners [another group] are. This statement is a generalization. The second sentence is a qualifier of why some runners aren't concerned, in a mealy-mouthed manner, at that.

    I mean, we are both ESLers, but this stuff shouldn't even be an issue...
  • karenrich77
    karenrich77 Posts: 292 Member
    Sorry too many rules for me, you lost me after the first few sentences. My rule. WORK OUT WHAT WORKS FOR YOU AND DO IT. Screw everyone else and their rules. PS I have lost 46.5kg with this attitude.... so I win lol
  • isulo_kura
    isulo_kura Posts: 818 Member
    Pu_239 wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Pu_239 wrote: »
    Pu_239 wrote: »
    isulo_kura wrote: »
    Lifters are more concerned about nutrition than runners are. Often, runners will use their activity as an excuse to eat and drink
    Holy Genralisation Batman!!!!!!!!!

    There is some truth to that statement. It depends on what type of runners, and what type of lifters. I can see many runners saying "i exercised, i need a treat." people who are in to more body building atheistic, I don't see them really doing that. e.g. post workout for runners some large meal, post workout for bodybuilders a protein shake.

    A generalization is something that is true some of the time.
    It's still a generalization.

    Would it still be a generalization if it's true more often than not?

    you get what the word means right?

    Yes, there is also the word "often" in the statment.

    "Lifters are more concerned about nutrition than runners are. Often, runners will use their activity as an excuse to eat and drink"

    Generalization
    a general statement : a statement about a group of people or things that is based on only a few people or things in that group

    : the act or process of forming opinions that are based on a small amount of information
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/generalization

    So it's NOT a generalization if MOST(not a few) people do it. SO the original statement by the author of the article is correct, and not a generalization.

    I'll just leave it at that.


    As gene says also maybe read the whole Paragraph
    Lifters are more concerned about nutrition than runners are. Often, runners will use their activity as an excuse to eat and drink, whereas lifters care more about body composition. As the article shows, that thing about added muscle massively ramping up metabolism is crap, and from a purely physiological perspective aerobic training wins for weight loss, except for the fact that so many runners think running = eating.

    So Pu you may want to try and incorrectly split infinitives but the whole paragraph is a stupid genralisation.
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
    edited May 2015
    Channeling my inner Mean Girl... can we just agree that sentence wasn't one to carve on your gravestone, and move on? :)

    (I'm not in the habit of being mean. How did I do?)
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Orphia wrote: »
    Channeling my inner Mean Girl... can we just agree that sentence wasn't one to carve on your gravestone, and move on? :)

    (I'm not in the habit of being mean. How did I do?)

    apart from the typo.. pretty well :bigsmile:
  • TimothyFish
    TimothyFish Posts: 4,925 Member
    Like others have said, mostly, it appears good. I think a few here will take issue with his stance that you don't have to count calories. I'm actually in agreement with that and for the same reason. I don't like counting calories. In the long run, I think many people will give up on counting calories and if they don't replace it with something else that works (as he did) the end result will be weight gain.
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    Why did this thread go where it went? Wait, don't answer.

    I agree that, except for a few eyebrow raisers here and there (like the aforementioned runners vs. lifters), it was a fairly solid piece.

    He had me from the get go with the calorie deficit and calorie balance bit, because really, that does say it all.
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
    Thanks, @mamapeach910

    To go back to before the schismmz....
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    he could almost be a regular MFPer tbh

    That's what I've found. I joined MFP not long before I found the article, and then everyone here confirmed what it said.



  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    mostly okay...again minor stuff that eh.

    The lifter vs runner thing...I am both so I guess I am in Balance hehe...
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    Honestly, I am dead jealous of people who can run! I'd love to, and maybe when my weight is lower my joints could handle the stress for short amounts of time. I have trouble even walking for longer than more than 40-50 minutes.

    Right now, my doctor says no to running.

    Back to the article and what Stef said, I don't see why there's a divide between runners and lifters. A lot of people do both.
  • Wiseandcurious
    Wiseandcurious Posts: 730 Member
    Haven't finished reading but I love how he summarizes the link between what you eat and how much: "quality affects quantity". (I interpret that rather broadly - for some people, that may mean that they get better adherence, satiety and overall happiness when prioritizing certain foods. It might be big quantities of low-calorie veggies for one, or regular small portions of gelato/bacon/whatever for others.)

    Also, he mentions Twinkies in relation to diet - highly likely to be an MFP-er. If he later in the texts mentions Peeps in relation to cleansing, it'll be almost certain :)
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    But it's Friday in the US now right? It's mandatory that we be mean :p.

    itsoctoberthird.jpg?w=300&h=169

    Am I too late?
  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
    Is there a Happy Mean Boys Day?

    Fairness and all...
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