Ignore sugars in fruit?

myweightloss2016
myweightloss2016 Posts: 147 Member
edited November 18 in Food and Nutrition
Hi there,
I have a question !
When I eat fruit (I like having 3-4 pieces a day), I immediately get over my sugar goal :disappointed:
Fruit is healthy, and I know that too much is bad due to the natural sugars, but hey, 3 pieces can't be bad, right?

How do you guys do this?
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  • sixxpoint
    sixxpoint Posts: 3,529 Member
    To be clear... don't ignore, track as calories/carbs.

    Sugar is not bad per se as long as you are cautious about how much refined sugar you ingest.

    Chronic ingestion of 50 grams or more of refined/processed sugars a day has known health risks. Sugars from whole foods however cannot be lumped into the same ballpark.
  • myweightloss2016
    myweightloss2016 Posts: 147 Member
    sixxpoint wrote: »
    To be clear... don't ignore, track as calories/carbs.

    Sugar is not bad per se as long as you are cautious about how much refined sugar you ingest.

    Chronic ingestion of 50 grams or more of refined/processed sugars a day has known health risks. Sugars from whole foods however cannot be lumped into the same ballpark.

    Thanks for your comment.
  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    MFP looks at all sugars. So I changed my settings to track fiber instead (no health issues).

    As long as you are meeting macros...protein, fat and then carbs.........don't worry about it.
  • azulvioleta6
    azulvioleta6 Posts: 4,195 Member
    Stop eating so much fruit!

    Switch to consuming more vegetables, especially leafy greens.
  • 365andstillalive
    365andstillalive Posts: 663 Member
    Stop eating so much fruit!

    Switch to consuming more vegetables, especially leafy greens.

    But why?
    Why can't OP have her pineapple AND her spinach too?
  • shan11180
    shan11180 Posts: 110 Member
    TeaBea wrote: »
    MFP looks at all sugars. So I changed my settings to track fiber instead (no health issues).

    As long as you are meeting macros...protein, fat and then carbs.........don't worry about it.

    Great idea! I have the same problem... And why the heck should I feel guilty for eating FRUIT?
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    I don't track sugar as it's irrelevant to me, just a sub-set of carbs.
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  • azulvioleta6
    azulvioleta6 Posts: 4,195 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Stop eating so much fruit!

    Switch to consuming more vegetables, especially leafy greens.
    3 or 4 fruits is considered "so much"?

    If you are going over your sugar limit, it is too much.

    Sugar is sugar is sugar. Your body doesn't say "oh, this is fruit so I am going to totally ignore this sugar."
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  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited May 2015
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Stop eating so much fruit!

    Switch to consuming more vegetables, especially leafy greens.
    3 or 4 fruits is considered "so much"?

    If you are going over your sugar limit, it is too much.

    Why?

    The problem is the sugar limit is a percentage of calories.

    15% of, say, 1800 calories is reasonably high.

    15% of 1200 calories means 45 grams. I've hit 45 grams on a day when I had a piece of fruit, a little dairy, and lots of veggies (especially if I happen to include beets or sweet potatoes as one of my starchier options that day).

    Also, none of the reasons given for limiting sugar suggest that eating 3-4 pieces of fruit is a problem. In fact, that's often recommended (along with veggies, of course). For example, the reason the WHO gives for its low (5%) recommendation for added sugars is calories, making sure you have a nutrient dense diet, and dental issues.

    So what's the reasoning that says that 50-60 grams of sugar from fruit, veggies, and dairy is something to be worried about?
  • debsdoingthis
    debsdoingthis Posts: 454 Member
    TeaBea wrote: »
    MFP looks at all sugars. So I changed my settings to track fiber instead (no health issues).

    As long as you are meeting macros...protein, fat and then carbs.........don't worry about it.

    +1. Do you have any health issues that require keeping track of sugar grams? If not ditch the sugar column and enjoy some yummy summer fruits!


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  • tdatsenko
    tdatsenko Posts: 155 Member
    Just turn off the warning, I used to get it all the time before I turned it off. There's really no reason to limit your sugar intake if you're already limiting your calories.
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  • shan11180
    shan11180 Posts: 110 Member
    tdatsenko wrote: »
    Just turn off the warning, I used to get it all the time before I turned it off. There's really no reason to limit your sugar intake if you're already limiting your calories.

    How does one turn it off? I can't find it to save my life!
  • csofled
    csofled Posts: 3,022 Member
    edited May 2015
    Go to Food tab and then Settings Tab. Food-Settings-Change Nutrients Tracked-Save
  • tiffanyaiv
    tiffanyaiv Posts: 107 Member
    Fruit is completely natural and healthy and delicious and extremely nutritious do not cut it out as long as you are still able to maintain your calories you should be able to have what ever you want! Bursting with healthy vitamins and nutrients!!
  • Capt_Apollo
    Capt_Apollo Posts: 9,026 Member
    don't track your sugar
  • DebDesautels
    DebDesautels Posts: 22 Member
    I used to ignore it. I would almost always be over my recommended sugar intake for a day but I ate a lot of fruit so I thought it was okay. But once I started limiting *all* sugar to 45g a day, I started actually losing weight at the rate I expected. Not saying this is a solution for everyone but it's working for me. I have maybe 2 fruit servings a day plus 5-6 vegetable servings. And I try to keep the fruit on the lower sugar end (berries, peaches, apples vs. mangos, pineapple, bananas).
  • syndeo
    syndeo Posts: 68 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Stop eating so much fruit!

    Switch to consuming more vegetables, especially leafy greens.
    3 or 4 fruits is considered "so much"?

    If you are going over your sugar limit, it is too much.

    Sugar is sugar is sugar. Your body doesn't say "oh, this is fruit so I am going to totally ignore this sugar."

    The WHO recommendations for sugar are only about added sugars, fruit juices, liquid sugars like honey and maple syrup. The WHO clearly mentions that they do not consider the 10% (or 5%) limit to apply to sugars from diary, or fruit.
  • 999tigger
    999tigger Posts: 5,235 Member
    Lol @ the fruit denier. Ip youll be fine with 3 or 4 pieces. I wouldnt worry about the sugar in fruit, focus on your deficit for losing weight. Tracking fibre is more importnat than sugar imo.
  • nevereverend
    nevereverend Posts: 17 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    If you are going over your sugar limit, it is too much.

    Sugar is sugar is sugar. Your body doesn't say "oh, this is fruit so I am going to totally ignore this sugar."

    Actually, it sort of does. When you eat fruit, it is already paired with fiber which affects how your body metabolizes it. This is a major reason why refined sugars are so bad, since they are so quickly broken down.

    Additionally, most fruits are chock full of antioxidants and some even have been shown to have a positive effect on managing both blood glucose and blood lipid levels after a meal.

    The big concern is if you are diabetic, have had a gastric bypass, or have other medical issues that may impact how your body processes sugars. With a gastric bypass, for example, the potential impact of fruit sugar can be much higher than normal simply because once sugar enters the small intestine, the differences between fruit and refined sugars disappear.
  • JoseCastaneda
    JoseCastaneda Posts: 245 Member
    Hi there,
    I have a question !
    When I eat fruit (I like having 3-4 pieces a day), I immediately get over my sugar goal :disappointed:
    Fruit is healthy, and I know that too much is bad due to the natural sugars, but hey, 3 pieces can't be bad, right?

    How do you guys do this?

    Track your fruit. Try to fit it into your macros. If you can, avoid extra sugar in beverages (coffee, tea), and enjoy your fruit!
  • MakePeasNotWar
    MakePeasNotWar Posts: 1,329 Member
    syndeo wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Stop eating so much fruit!

    Switch to consuming more vegetables, especially leafy greens.
    3 or 4 fruits is considered "so much"?

    If you are going over your sugar limit, it is too much.

    Sugar is sugar is sugar. Your body doesn't say "oh, this is fruit so I am going to totally ignore this sugar."

    The WHO recommendations for sugar are only about added sugars, fruit juices, liquid sugars like honey and maple syrup. The WHO clearly mentions that they do not consider the 10% (or 5%) limit to apply to sugars from diary, or fruit.

    This confuses so many people, especially newbies. If MFP can't track free sugars separately from fruit and dairy sugars, there shouldn't be a limit at all.

    I cringe when people decide to stop eating fruit because of that stupid sugar limit. All those vitamins and minerals, not to mention water and fibre lost. And for no reason whatsoever.

    I turned it off as soon as they added it.
  • myweightloss2016
    myweightloss2016 Posts: 147 Member
    Wow, lots of comments!

    Okay, I can definitely work with that. Fruit keeps me away from the bad stuff and I guess, that eating an apple, some strawberries and a banana a day is better than eating unhealthy *kitten*.
    I limit my calories to 1200 a day, so yeah the sugar recommendation is really low.
    Thanks for all the helpful answers!
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Stop eating so much fruit!

    Switch to consuming more vegetables, especially leafy greens.
    3 or 4 fruits is considered "so much"?
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Stop eating so much fruit!

    Switch to consuming more vegetables, especially leafy greens.
    3 or 4 fruits is considered "so much"?

    If you are going over your sugar limit, it is too much.

    Sugar is sugar is sugar. Your body doesn't say "oh, this is fruit so I am going to totally ignore this sugar."

    What is the sugar limit?
    What would my sugar limit be?

    MFP's limit is 15% of calories. UK rdi is 18% so typically 90 grams a day.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Stop eating so much fruit!

    Switch to consuming more vegetables, especially leafy greens.
    3 or 4 fruits is considered "so much"?

    The median is probably about 1 hence the health propaganda aimed at the fruit avoiders.
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    edited May 2015
    TeaBea wrote: »
    MFP looks at all sugars. So I changed my settings to track fiber instead (no health issues).

    As long as you are meeting macros...protein, fat and then carbs.........don't worry about it.

    This is what I do. As a T2 diabetic, you would think I need to track sugars, right? My doctor (certified diabetic educator) has told me that tracking sugars separately from carbs is not necessary unless the diabetic is on insulin. I just track total carbs and stay under the limit my Dr. gave me (180 g) even when I earn a ton of exercise calories. My a1c has held steady in the normal range for a year now (diagnosed 16 months ago)

    For most people, getting enough fiber is much more important than limiting sugars. As the daughter of someone who died of colon cancer, it is especially important to me to keep my lower GI system as healthy as possible.

    ETA: I do limit myself to one serving of fruit daily and eat a lot of veggies, but this is how I prefer to keep my total carbs under the limit while raising my fiber. I enjoy a slice of whole grain bread 2-3 times daily and often have brown rice or potatoes with dinner so I get my carbs that way, along with fiber.

  • pcrucifer
    pcrucifer Posts: 71 Member
    Your body needs a certain amount of carbs, protein, healthy fats, vitamins and minerals. Too little of any of those, and your body will start craving. Fruit is a great source of carbs, vitamins, and minerals. So are veggies. If you eat a lot of processed foods, you get a lot of hidden sugar and you should eat more veggies than fruit. If you eat at home a lot and avoid packaged stuff, you can eat more fruit.
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