Omron Body Fat Loss Monitor
LolaKarwowski
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In trying to calculate how many calories to consume in order to lose weight, I asked one of the trainers at the gym if they could calculate my body fat %. They pulled out a machine I have never, ever seen or heard of (read title) and it said my body fat is 20% which is in the athletic range. I don't know much, but that seems off. I thought I would be a lot closer to 25%. Should I buy the 'older' equipment to come up with my body fat or would I be wasting my money? Is the machine (see title) reliable?
Age: 22
Weight: 131
Height: 5ft 7in
Age: 22
Weight: 131
Height: 5ft 7in
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Bioimpedence measurement devices are very inaccurate. I would put you at 28% BF just based on pics.
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I have the same Omron machine. I've heard they are inaccurate so I use it more for trending. I don't know how inaccurate they are, but the last few measurements put me at an average of 13% with high being 13.1 and low of 12.7. I know people can look drastically different even at the same body fat percentages.0
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Are you trying to calculate your LBM?
Agree with NB...your in that 28% range.0 -
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LolaKarwowski wrote: »Are you trying to calculate your LBM?
Agree with NB...your in that 28% range.
No. Just my body fat %. (Unless that's the same thing?)
Wow!! I didn't think I'd be that high up there. I will have to definitely get a second opinion. (Meaning an opinion other than the machine, not you guys)
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the most accurate method is DEXA of bod pod ….
yes, i would say 25 to 28% body fat….however, I would not freak out about it. Woman genetically hold onto more fat than men, and lean for woman is about 18% …so you are only 10% away …
why do you need to know your body fat to calculate calories? Just enter your stats into MFP and how much weight per week you want to lose and it will give you a number to eat to?
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I agree with the above, don't focus or worry too much about your bf%. Some like to have an idea before they start a bulk so they don't go too far off when gaining. I have no clue what mine is, I just focus on how I feel and look in the mirror.0
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the most accurate method is DEXA of bod pod ….
yes, i would say 25 to 28% body fat….however, I would not freak out about it. Woman genetically hold onto more fat than men, and lean for woman is about 18% …so you are only 10% away …
why do you need to know your body fat to calculate calories? Just enter your stats into MFP and how much weight per week you want to lose and it will give you a number to eat to?
I need it to calculate how many calories to consume while dieting to burn fat. I feel like MFP just gives you a number of calories to eat in order to lose weight and it doesn't necessarily matter where it comes from.
I'm trying to lose body fat % by eating lots of protein + healthy fats, and reducing my carb intake (not cutting it out completely). I just want to make sure I'm not over/under eating.
I will not only be relying on my body fat %. I am also taking weekly pics, weighing myself, and seeing how I fit in my clothes (already I feel a difference!!).
If you guys have any suggestions PLEASE let me know. I'm still learning and don't mind constructive criticism if it means it will help me reach my goal.0 -
If you want to lose body fat, best thing to do would be eat at a reasonable deficit, get adequate protein and lift weights to retain muscle mass. Reducing your carb intake can help some stay in deficit, but going low carb is not necessary to reduce your body fat.0
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Intensity of your exercise and how you rest (make sure your getting enough) will help you burn body fat more efficiently.
Steady state cardio is good at burning calories, but doesn't do much to raise RMR. Adding in intervals regardless of what cardio you do will enhance your RMR. You burn the majority of your fat at REST. So lack of rest disrupts a more efficient burning of body fat.
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If you want to lose body fat, best thing to do would be eat at a reasonable deficit, get adequate protein and lift weights to retain muscle mass. Reducing your carb intake can help some stay in deficit, but going low carb is not necessary to reduce your body fat.
TDEE is 1893 and MFP has me at 1510 so I think I'm on the right road.
*used http://iifym.com/tdee-calculator/ to calculate TDEE
I'm not necessarily focusing on my carb intake (although I do try to make sure it's not too high). My main priority is protein intake, then fat intake, then carbs. I do weight lifting 4-5x a week.
I should probably do a little more cardio..
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LolaKarwowski wrote: »If you want to lose body fat, best thing to do would be eat at a reasonable deficit, get adequate protein and lift weights to retain muscle mass. Reducing your carb intake can help some stay in deficit, but going low carb is not necessary to reduce your body fat.
TDEE is 1893 and MFP has me at 1510 so I think I'm on the right road.
*used http://iifym.com/tdee-calculator/ to calculate TDEE
I'm not necessarily focusing on my carb intake (although I do try to make sure it's not too high). My main priority is protein intake, then fat intake, then carbs. I do weight lifting 4-5x a week.
I should probably do a little more cardio..
Doing more cardio will just increase your TDEE; you want to aim for a moderate deficit, so more cardio means eat more food. Do more cardio if you're unhappy with your current calorie level (too few to keep you full) or if you like it. Else, just keep at your current level.
What kind of lifting program are you doing?0 -
LolaKarwowski wrote: »If you want to lose body fat, best thing to do would be eat at a reasonable deficit, get adequate protein and lift weights to retain muscle mass. Reducing your carb intake can help some stay in deficit, but going low carb is not necessary to reduce your body fat.
TDEE is 1893 and MFP has me at 1510 so I think I'm on the right road.
*used http://iifym.com/tdee-calculator/ to calculate TDEE
I'm not necessarily focusing on my carb intake (although I do try to make sure it's not too high). My main priority is protein intake, then fat intake, then carbs. I do weight lifting 4-5x a week.
I should probably do a little more cardio..
Doing more cardio will just increase your TDEE; you want to aim for a moderate deficit, so more cardio means eat more food. Do more cardio if you're unhappy with your current calorie level (too few to keep you full) or if you like it. Else, just keep at your current level.
What kind of lifting program are you doing?
That makes sense.
Until now I have been working out with my husband. I will be starting strong-lift 5x5 soon!!0 -
I loved stronglifts and ran it on and off for about 2 years. Good luck with the program, and hopefully you love it (makes going to the gym so much easier when you enjoy your workouts).0
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LolaKarwowski wrote: »the most accurate method is DEXA of bod pod ….
yes, i would say 25 to 28% body fat….however, I would not freak out about it. Woman genetically hold onto more fat than men, and lean for woman is about 18% …so you are only 10% away …
why do you need to know your body fat to calculate calories? Just enter your stats into MFP and how much weight per week you want to lose and it will give you a number to eat to?
I need it to calculate how many calories to consume while dieting to burn fat. I feel like MFP just gives you a number of calories to eat in order to lose weight and it doesn't necessarily matter where it comes from.
I'm trying to lose body fat % by eating lots of protein + healthy fats, and reducing my carb intake (not cutting it out completely). I just want to make sure I'm not over/under eating.
I will not only be relying on my body fat %. I am also taking weekly pics, weighing myself, and seeing how I fit in my clothes (already I feel a difference!!).
If you guys have any suggestions PLEASE let me know. I'm still learning and don't mind constructive criticism if it means it will help me reach my goal.
You need a deficit to lose fat, period.
second, your body is not efficient enough to just burn fat and not lose any muscle, so ditch that idea.
Third - if you want to lose body fat and retain muscle then get into a lifting program (which it sounds like you are going to start stronglifts, which is great) and keep your protein consumption high. About .8 grams of protein per pound of body weight, should do it....or you can do it be .8 grams of protein per pound of lean body mass...I have seen it recommended both ways...0 -
LolaKarwowski wrote: »the most accurate method is DEXA of bod pod ….
yes, i would say 25 to 28% body fat….however, I would not freak out about it. Woman genetically hold onto more fat than men, and lean for woman is about 18% …so you are only 10% away …
why do you need to know your body fat to calculate calories? Just enter your stats into MFP and how much weight per week you want to lose and it will give you a number to eat to?
I need it to calculate how many calories to consume while dieting to burn fat. I feel like MFP just gives you a number of calories to eat in order to lose weight and it doesn't necessarily matter where it comes from.
I'm trying to lose body fat % by eating lots of protein + healthy fats, and reducing my carb intake (not cutting it out completely). I just want to make sure I'm not over/under eating.
I will not only be relying on my body fat %. I am also taking weekly pics, weighing myself, and seeing how I fit in my clothes (already I feel a difference!!).
If you guys have any suggestions PLEASE let me know. I'm still learning and don't mind constructive criticism if it means it will help me reach my goal.
You need a deficit to lose fat, period.
second, your body is not efficient enough to just burn fat and not lose any muscle, so ditch that idea.
Third - if you want to lose body fat and retain muscle then get into a lifting program (which it sounds like you are going to start stronglifts, which is great) and keep your protein consumption high. About .8 grams of protein per pound of body weight, should do it....or you can do it be .8 grams of protein per pound of lean body mass...I have seen it recommended both ways...
If she's new to resistance training I would expect her to be quite efficient at not losing muscle. I'd even be comfortable claiming she could gain a little bit of it if she doesn't cut too aggressively or get too lean.0 -
I work two floors above the Omron guys and have one of their monitors. It's an interesting tool, but wildly inaccurate. I found my best readings taken immediately in the morning after using the bathroom and before I drink anything. Speaking with the engineers this is quite possibly the best time to give the most accurate reading. I take 3 readings which are usually <0.1% of one another. I have been tracking a gradual fat % reduction.0
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I agree on the upper 20% body fat range.
My omron will read wild measurements depending on the time of the day, whether i've eaten, had water, etc. It's not accurate enough.0 -
LolaKarwowski wrote: »the most accurate method is DEXA of bod pod ….
yes, i would say 25 to 28% body fat….however, I would not freak out about it. Woman genetically hold onto more fat than men, and lean for woman is about 18% …so you are only 10% away …
why do you need to know your body fat to calculate calories? Just enter your stats into MFP and how much weight per week you want to lose and it will give you a number to eat to?
I need it to calculate how many calories to consume while dieting to burn fat. I feel like MFP just gives you a number of calories to eat in order to lose weight and it doesn't necessarily matter where it comes from.
I'm trying to lose body fat % by eating lots of protein + healthy fats, and reducing my carb intake (not cutting it out completely). I just want to make sure I'm not over/under eating.
I will not only be relying on my body fat %. I am also taking weekly pics, weighing myself, and seeing how I fit in my clothes (already I feel a difference!!).
If you guys have any suggestions PLEASE let me know. I'm still learning and don't mind constructive criticism if it means it will help me reach my goal.
You need a deficit to lose fat, period.
second, your body is not efficient enough to just burn fat and not lose any muscle, so ditch that idea.
Third - if you want to lose body fat and retain muscle then get into a lifting program (which it sounds like you are going to start stronglifts, which is great) and keep your protein consumption high. About .8 grams of protein per pound of body weight, should do it....or you can do it be .8 grams of protein per pound of lean body mass...I have seen it recommended both ways...
If she's new to resistance training I would expect her to be quite efficient at not losing muscle. I'd even be comfortable claiming she could gain a little bit of it if she doesn't cut too aggressively or get too lean.
was she lifting before starting strong lifts? I thought yes, but if I missed that part, then yes, I agree….0 -
LolaKarwowski wrote: »the most accurate method is DEXA of bod pod ….
yes, i would say 25 to 28% body fat….however, I would not freak out about it. Woman genetically hold onto more fat than men, and lean for woman is about 18% …so you are only 10% away …
why do you need to know your body fat to calculate calories? Just enter your stats into MFP and how much weight per week you want to lose and it will give you a number to eat to?
I need it to calculate how many calories to consume while dieting to burn fat. I feel like MFP just gives you a number of calories to eat in order to lose weight and it doesn't necessarily matter where it comes from.
I'm trying to lose body fat % by eating lots of protein + healthy fats, and reducing my carb intake (not cutting it out completely). I just want to make sure I'm not over/under eating.
I will not only be relying on my body fat %. I am also taking weekly pics, weighing myself, and seeing how I fit in my clothes (already I feel a difference!!).
If you guys have any suggestions PLEASE let me know. I'm still learning and don't mind constructive criticism if it means it will help me reach my goal.
You need a deficit to lose fat, period.
second, your body is not efficient enough to just burn fat and not lose any muscle, so ditch that idea.
Third - if you want to lose body fat and retain muscle then get into a lifting program (which it sounds like you are going to start stronglifts, which is great) and keep your protein consumption high. About .8 grams of protein per pound of body weight, should do it....or you can do it be .8 grams of protein per pound of lean body mass...I have seen it recommended both ways...
If she's new to resistance training I would expect her to be quite efficient at not losing muscle. I'd even be comfortable claiming she could gain a little bit of it if she doesn't cut too aggressively or get too lean.
was she lifting before starting strong lifts? I thought yes, but if I missed that part, then yes, I agree….
Yeah but only for like, 2 weeks. I'm excited to start!!0 -
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I've found that the Omron device is within about 2 percentage points "usually" of a more expensive tanita scale.0
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Kmedeiros83 wrote: »I've found that the Omron device is within about 2 percentage points "usually" of a more expensive tanita scale.
Tanita scale also relies on bio electrical impedance, so it will also suffer from similar inaccuracies.0 -
Yeah, I think the bioimpedence scales and handhelds can be about 8-10% off, maybe even more.0
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these devices, like the scales use impedence, which varies depending on how dehydrated you are -- why you might have lower weight but higher BF in the morning on the device, than later in the day after drinking a lot of water. I use mine to tell me when I need to drink more fluid, and for trends, if you measure at the same time of day.0
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Intensity of your exercise and how you rest (make sure your getting enough) will help you burn body fat more efficiently.
Steady state cardio is good at burning calories, but doesn't do much to raise RMR. Adding in intervals regardless of what cardio you do will enhance your RMR. You burn the majority of your fat at REST. So lack of rest disrupts a more efficient burning of body fat.
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You are talking pure nonsense. There is no such thing as a fat burning zone. The bigger the deficit, the greater the weight loss (and fat loss), if your macros are right. Ie, getting enough protein, and you are performing strength training a couple times a week. I am assuming you are attempting reasonable weight loss of 1-2 pounds a week,
HIIT doesn't increase your RMR, unless you are referring to EPOC. And the gain from EPOC is minor, 7% of total calories in EPOC for steady state, vs 14% more calories due to EPOC for HIIT. That is 14% of the calories you burned during the HIIT session. Most people can burn significantly more calories in an hour long steady state at 70% of max effort then you can in an hour at 100% effort with rest periods.
Furthermore, the fitter you are, more efficient you are, the less EPOC you get. And the fitter you are, the lower the RMR.
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Intensity of your exercise and how you rest (make sure your getting enough) will help you burn body fat more efficiently.
Steady state cardio is good at burning calories, but doesn't do much to raise RMR. Adding in intervals regardless of what cardio you do will enhance your RMR. You burn the majority of your fat at REST. So lack of rest disrupts a more efficient burning of body fat.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
You are talking pure nonsense. There is no such thing as a fat burning zone. The bigger the deficit, the greater the weight loss (and fat loss), if your macros are right. Ie, getting enough protein, and you are performing strength training a couple times a week. I am assuming you are attempting reasonable weight loss of 1-2 pounds a week,
HIIT doesn't increase your RMR, unless you are referring to EPOC. And the gain from EPOC is minor, 7% of total calories in EPOC for steady state, vs 14% more calories due to EPOC for HIIT. That is 14% of the calories you burned during the HIIT session. Most people can burn significantly more calories in an hour long steady state at 70% of max effort then you can in an hour at 100% effort with rest periods.
Furthermore, the fitter you are, more efficient you are, the less EPOC you get. And the fitter you are, the lower the RMR.
Try again.
http://static.ow.ly/docs/Interval Training v Continuous Training_5gS.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8028502
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8883001
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/181971840 -
Intensity of your exercise and how you rest (make sure your getting enough) will help you burn body fat more efficiently.
Steady state cardio is good at burning calories, but doesn't do much to raise RMR. Adding in intervals regardless of what cardio you do will enhance your RMR. You burn the majority of your fat at REST. So lack of rest disrupts a more efficient burning of body fat.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
You are talking pure nonsense. There is no such thing as a fat burning zone. The bigger the deficit, the greater the weight loss (and fat loss), if your macros are right. Ie, getting enough protein, and you are performing strength training a couple times a week. I am assuming you are attempting reasonable weight loss of 1-2 pounds a week,
HIIT doesn't increase your RMR, unless you are referring to EPOC. And the gain from EPOC is minor, 7% of total calories in EPOC for steady state, vs 14% more calories due to EPOC for HIIT. That is 14% of the calories you burned during the HIIT session. Most people can burn significantly more calories in an hour long steady state at 70% of max effort then you can in an hour at 100% effort with rest periods.
Furthermore, the fitter you are, more efficient you are, the less EPOC you get. And the fitter you are, the lower the RMR.
And you think 2 lbs a week is a reasonable fat loss rate for someone that is already in a healthy weight range? How exactly would expect her to have a 1000 calorie deficit? By barely eating?
Lol I was gonna say.. I don't want to lose THAT much a week. Maybe before when I was overweight but now it would be a bit harder to do that.
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