Panicking- Keto diet vs diabetes?!
fattybattyy
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So about four days ago the doctor and I determined (loosely, there is still no full on scientific evidence on what can diagnose this) I have PCOS. I am overweight, and have had a LOT of hormonal issues these past few years. She suggested I go on a low-carb diet to help PCOS symptoms and because... the signs of PCOS are also signs of early hints of future diabetes. Basically I freaked out, cried, etc.
A little background information, I have struggled with my weight since a kid. I have been both underweight and overweight as I had (and still occasionally struggle with) an eating disorder. Finding out my diet choices had finally affected me health wise shocked me.
Anyways, I meditatively went home and started looking up low-carb diets. I discovered the "keto diet" which was proven to help PCOS on top of weight loss. I have been on it for four days and today (it's like 80-90F) my sweat smells like vitamins/sweet/etc. I read on forums a sign of ketosis was fruity smelling sweat/breath/urine...but isn't this too soon to experience this? Fast forward to me googling "sweet smelling sweat". Apparently that's a sign of diabetes too! I'm 23, was just tested for diabetes 3-4 months ago...could it creep up in the past few months? Or is this a sign of ketosis? Or am I just weird?
Thanks for reading.
A little background information, I have struggled with my weight since a kid. I have been both underweight and overweight as I had (and still occasionally struggle with) an eating disorder. Finding out my diet choices had finally affected me health wise shocked me.
Anyways, I meditatively went home and started looking up low-carb diets. I discovered the "keto diet" which was proven to help PCOS on top of weight loss. I have been on it for four days and today (it's like 80-90F) my sweat smells like vitamins/sweet/etc. I read on forums a sign of ketosis was fruity smelling sweat/breath/urine...but isn't this too soon to experience this? Fast forward to me googling "sweet smelling sweat". Apparently that's a sign of diabetes too! I'm 23, was just tested for diabetes 3-4 months ago...could it creep up in the past few months? Or is this a sign of ketosis? Or am I just weird?
Thanks for reading.
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4 days is long enough for you to enter ketosis if your carb intake was low enough. If you want to, get some ketostix at the nearest drug store and give yourself a urine test to find out.
You might want to read up a bit on keto if you're winging it. You'll need to replenish sodium soon.
Good book:
Art and Science of Low Carb
Good support group:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group0 -
fattybattyy wrote: »So about four days ago the doctor and I determined (loosely, there is still no full on scientific evidence on what can diagnose this) I have PCOS. I am overweight, and have had a LOT of hormonal issues these past few years. She suggested I go on a low-carb diet to help PCOS symptoms and because... the signs of PCOS are also signs of early hints of future diabetes. Basically I freaked out, cried, etc.
A little background information, I have struggled with my weight since a kid. I have been both underweight and overweight as I had (and still occasionally struggle with) an eating disorder. Finding out my diet choices had finally affected me health wise shocked me.
Anyways, I meditatively went home and started looking up low-carb diets. I discovered the "keto diet" which was proven to help PCOS on top of weight loss. I have been on it for four days and today (it's like 80-90F) my sweat smells like vitamins/sweet/etc. I read on forums a sign of ketosis was fruity smelling sweat/breath/urine...but isn't this too soon to experience this? Fast forward to me googling "sweet smelling sweat". Apparently that's a sign of diabetes too! I'm 23, was just tested for diabetes 3-4 months ago...could it creep up in the past few months? Or is this a sign of ketosis? Or am I just weird?
Thanks for reading.
Find another dr. PCOS is not a magical illness, it can be diagnosed with a simple blood test. Insuline resistance and prediabetes can both be detected again with a simple blood test. This is nto some obscure diagnosis, your dr is clueless. Get an appointment with an endocrinologist.
Both PCOS and insuline resistance (if you have them) get worse by lifestyle choices. Watching your calories to lose weight and adding daily exercise (nothing extreme, 30 minutes of walkign will do) will be enough to see changes in whatever symptoms you have. The rest, it is just nonsense. Especially without even a diagnosis. And if your dr suspects dibetes and instead of ordering tests had advised you to get on a ketogenic diet on your own, this person is dangerous and should be reported to whoever controls medical professionals in your country.0 -
I'm gonna second new Dr. here. Find one soon and get tested, you don't want to mess with diabetes!0
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....fattybattyy wrote: »So about four days ago the doctor and I determined (loosely, there is still no full on scientific evidence on what can diagnose this) I have PCOS. I am overweight, and have had a LOT of hormonal issues these past few years. She suggested I go on a low-carb diet to help PCOS symptoms and because... the signs of PCOS are also signs of early hints of future diabetes. Basically I freaked out, cried, etc.
A little background information, I have struggled with my weight since a kid. I have been both underweight and overweight as I had (and still occasionally struggle with) an eating disorder. Finding out my diet choices had finally affected me health wise shocked me.
Anyways, I meditatively went home and started looking up low-carb diets. I discovered the "keto diet" which was proven to help PCOS on top of weight loss. I have been on it for four days and today (it's like 80-90F) my sweat smells like vitamins/sweet/etc. I read on forums a sign of ketosis was fruity smelling sweat/breath/urine...but isn't this too soon to experience this? Fast forward to me googling "sweet smelling sweat". Apparently that's a sign of diabetes too! I'm 23, was just tested for diabetes 3-4 months ago...could it creep up in the past few months? Or is this a sign of ketosis? Or am I just weird?
Thanks for reading.
Find another dr. PCOS is not a magical illness, it can be diagnosed with a simple blood test. Insuline resistance and prediabetes can both be detected again with a simple blood test. This is nto some obscure diagnosis, your dr is clueless. Get an appointment with an endocrinologist.
Both PCOS and insuline resistance (if you have them) get worse by lifestyle choices. Watching your calories to lose weight and adding daily exercise (nothing extreme, 30 minutes of walkign will do) will be enough to see changes in whatever symptoms you have. The rest, it is just nonsense. Especially without even a diagnosis. And if your dr suspects dibetes and instead of ordering tests had advised you to get on a ketogenic diet on your own, this person is dangerous and should be reported to whoever controls medical professionals in your country.
From my reading comprehension the dr suggested a low carb diet, not keto. Op looked into a keto diet after dr suggested a low carb diet. A low carb diet helps diabetes....I would think your dr suggested the right thing.0 -
crazyjerseygirl wrote: »I'm gonna second new Dr. here. Find one soon and get tested, you don't want to mess with diabetes!
She should find a new doctor because hers gave her a standard recommendation for her diagnosis?0 -
crazyjerseygirl wrote: »I'm gonna second new Dr. here. Find one soon and get tested, you don't want to mess with diabetes!
I'm going to third finding a new doctor. You need to have a firm diagnosis.0 -
crazyjerseygirl wrote: »I'm gonna second new Dr. here. Find one soon and get tested, you don't want to mess with diabetes!
She should find a new doctor because hers gave her a standard recommendation for her diagnosis?
Um.....did you read the original post?loosely, there is still no full on scientific evidence on what can diagnose this
The doctor has "diagnosed" her without testing her forhave PCOS.....and have had a LOT of hormonal issues these past few years.
without putting her through tests. The doctor also said she's overweight, but that part is obvious. Being overweight comes from eating too much. Being overweight and having medical issues still means you are eating too much, it just takes some "tweaking" to find your correct calorie goal.
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crazyjerseygirl wrote: »I'm gonna second new Dr. here. Find one soon and get tested, you don't want to mess with diabetes!
She should find a new doctor because hers gave her a standard recommendation for her diagnosis?
Um.....did you read the original post?loosely, there is still no full on scientific evidence on what can diagnose this
The doctor has "diagnosed" her without testing her forhave PCOS.....and have had a LOT of hormonal issues these past few years.
without putting her through tests. The doctor also said she's overweight, but that part is obvious. Being overweight comes from eating too much. Being overweight and having medical issues still means you are eating too much, it just takes some "tweaking" to find your correct calorie goal.
I read a few sentence summary of an entire conversation she had with her doctor. It seems to me telling her to fire the doctor immediately instead of suggesting some questions she can ask is a knee-jerk reaction. She got news that shocked her, and it's very likely she didn't register or understand everything that was said. Could you imagine if every cancer patient fired their doctor because they didn't catch every word of the conversation that followed after getting the news?0 -
crazyjerseygirl wrote: »I'm gonna second new Dr. here. Find one soon and get tested, you don't want to mess with diabetes!
She should find a new doctor because hers gave her a standard recommendation for her diagnosis?
Um.....did you read the original post?loosely, there is still no full on scientific evidence on what can diagnose this
The doctor has "diagnosed" her without testing her forhave PCOS.....and have had a LOT of hormonal issues these past few years.
without putting her through tests. The doctor also said she's overweight, but that part is obvious. Being overweight comes from eating too much. Being overweight and having medical issues still means you are eating too much, it just takes some "tweaking" to find your correct calorie goal.
I read a few sentence summary of an entire conversation she had with her doctor. It seems to me telling her to fire the doctor immediately instead of suggesting some questions she can ask is a knee-jerk reaction. She got news that shocked her, and it's very likely she didn't register or understand everything that was said. Could you imagine if every cancer patient fired their doctor because they didn't catch every word of the conversation that followed after getting the news?
Your logic and reason aren't welcome here!0 -
crazyjerseygirl wrote: »I'm gonna second new Dr. here. Find one soon and get tested, you don't want to mess with diabetes!
She should find a new doctor because hers gave her a standard recommendation for her diagnosis?
Um.....did you read the original post?loosely, there is still no full on scientific evidence on what can diagnose this
The doctor has "diagnosed" her without testing her forhave PCOS.....and have had a LOT of hormonal issues these past few years.
without putting her through tests. The doctor also said she's overweight, but that part is obvious. Being overweight comes from eating too much. Being overweight and having medical issues still means you are eating too much, it just takes some "tweaking" to find your correct calorie goal.
I read a few sentence summary of an entire conversation she had with her doctor. It seems to me telling her to fire the doctor immediately instead of suggesting some questions she can ask is a knee-jerk reaction. She got news that shocked her, and it's very likely she didn't register or understand everything that was said. Could you imagine if every cancer patient fired their doctor because they didn't catch every word of the conversation that followed after getting the news?
Oh my....my.....for goodness sake.
I can't believe this is what you got out of her post.0 -
crazyjerseygirl wrote: »I'm gonna second new Dr. here. Find one soon and get tested, you don't want to mess with diabetes!
She should find a new doctor because hers gave her a standard recommendation for her diagnosis?
Um.....did you read the original post?loosely, there is still no full on scientific evidence on what can diagnose this
The doctor has "diagnosed" her without testing her forhave PCOS.....and have had a LOT of hormonal issues these past few years.
without putting her through tests. The doctor also said she's overweight, but that part is obvious. Being overweight comes from eating too much. Being overweight and having medical issues still means you are eating too much, it just takes some "tweaking" to find your correct calorie goal.
I read a few sentence summary of an entire conversation she had with her doctor. It seems to me telling her to fire the doctor immediately instead of suggesting some questions she can ask is a knee-jerk reaction. She got news that shocked her, and it's very likely she didn't register or understand everything that was said. Could you imagine if every cancer patient fired their doctor because they didn't catch every word of the conversation that followed after getting the news?
Oh my....my.....for goodness sake.
I can't believe this is what you got out of her post.
That's your issue.0 -
My girlfriend is happy with her endocrinologists's treatment of her PCOS with Metformin, which she credits to helping her lose weight.
If it were me, I'd try lifestyle modifications for a at least a few months before considering Metformin.
I realize you're upset, but remember this is a marathon and not a sprint. I hope you take a deep breath, calm down, and don't try to diagnose yourself online. You can talk to your doctor next week.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3475283/
Metformin and weight loss
The first observational study on metformin in PCOS reported weight loss during metformin therapy [Velazquez et al. 1994]. In their meta-analysis of all of the earlier small studies, Lord and colleagues reported that metformin had no significant effect on body weight or waist:hip ratio [Lord et al. 2003]. In a RCT designed specifically to investigate the effect of metformin on body weight, Harborne and colleagues reported a significant decrease in BMI in obese and morbidly obese women independent of lifestyle modification [Harborne et al. 2005]. Others reported no effect of metformin on body weight over and above that induced by lifestyle modification alone [Tang et al. 2006]. However, it was reported independently by two other groups that the combination of low-calorie diet and metformin led to a significant reduction in visceral fat [Gambineri et al. 2006, 2004; Pasquali et al. 2000]. In a recent meta-analysis, it was reported that metformin treatment was associated with a significant decrease in BMI compared with placebo. They also reported an effect related to both the dose and duration of treatment [Nieuwenhuis-Ruifrok et al. 2009]. However, due to the limited power caused by the small sample size, the authors could not be categorical about their findings and cautiously advised structured lifestyle modification as an imperative adjuvant to metformin therapy. Based on my own experience I tend not only to agree with their emphasis on lifestyle modification to aid weight loss but also corroborate that unless there is evidence of IR, prescribing metformin is unnecessary.0 -
crazyjerseygirl wrote: »I'm gonna second new Dr. here. Find one soon and get tested, you don't want to mess with diabetes!
She should find a new doctor because hers gave her a standard recommendation for her diagnosis?
Um.....did you read the original post?loosely, there is still no full on scientific evidence on what can diagnose this
The doctor has "diagnosed" her without testing her forhave PCOS.....and have had a LOT of hormonal issues these past few years.
without putting her through tests. The doctor also said she's overweight, but that part is obvious. Being overweight comes from eating too much. Being overweight and having medical issues still means you are eating too much, it just takes some "tweaking" to find your correct calorie goal.
I read a few sentence summary of an entire conversation she had with her doctor. It seems to me telling her to fire the doctor immediately instead of suggesting some questions she can ask is a knee-jerk reaction. She got news that shocked her, and it's very likely she didn't register or understand everything that was said. Could you imagine if every cancer patient fired their doctor because they didn't catch every word of the conversation that followed after getting the news?
Oh my....my.....for goodness sake.
I can't believe this is what you got out of her post.
That's your issue.
Riiiggghhht.
She gave enough information: she has not been tested for those issues, yet her doctor is diagnosing her.0 -
crazyjerseygirl wrote: »I'm gonna second new Dr. here. Find one soon and get tested, you don't want to mess with diabetes!
She should find a new doctor because hers gave her a standard recommendation for her diagnosis?
Um.....did you read the original post?loosely, there is still no full on scientific evidence on what can diagnose this
The doctor has "diagnosed" her without testing her forhave PCOS.....and have had a LOT of hormonal issues these past few years.
without putting her through tests. The doctor also said she's overweight, but that part is obvious. Being overweight comes from eating too much. Being overweight and having medical issues still means you are eating too much, it just takes some "tweaking" to find your correct calorie goal.
I read a few sentence summary of an entire conversation she had with her doctor. It seems to me telling her to fire the doctor immediately instead of suggesting some questions she can ask is a knee-jerk reaction. She got news that shocked her, and it's very likely she didn't register or understand everything that was said. Could you imagine if every cancer patient fired their doctor because they didn't catch every word of the conversation that followed after getting the news?
Oh my....my.....for goodness sake.
I can't believe this is what you got out of her post.
That's your issue.
Riiiggghhht.
She gave enough information: she has not been tested for those issues, yet her doctor is diagnosing her.
That's also your assumption. She stated issues for "years". How about you ask her instead of assuming? Unless you are suggesting you were in the room with her and the doctor?0 -
crazyjerseygirl wrote: »I'm gonna second new Dr. here. Find one soon and get tested, you don't want to mess with diabetes!
She should find a new doctor because hers gave her a standard recommendation for her diagnosis?
Um.....did you read the original post?loosely, there is still no full on scientific evidence on what can diagnose this
The doctor has "diagnosed" her without testing her forhave PCOS.....and have had a LOT of hormonal issues these past few years.
without putting her through tests. The doctor also said she's overweight, but that part is obvious. Being overweight comes from eating too much. Being overweight and having medical issues still means you are eating too much, it just takes some "tweaking" to find your correct calorie goal.
I read a few sentence summary of an entire conversation she had with her doctor. It seems to me telling her to fire the doctor immediately instead of suggesting some questions she can ask is a knee-jerk reaction. She got news that shocked her, and it's very likely she didn't register or understand everything that was said. Could you imagine if every cancer patient fired their doctor because they didn't catch every word of the conversation that followed after getting the news?
I have to agree. She was inundated with new information at the time when she probably didn't fully process what the doctor told her. The shock with the diagnoses coupled with the weight of her emotions make it difficult to listen, process any information. It's probably a good idea for her to call her physician with questions. It's not a good idea to say "Fire your doctor" without knowing all the "FACTS". By the way when she stated (loosely, there is still no full on scientific evidence on what can diagnose this). It kinda sounds like she meant to say they don't know what causes it.
Did you get blood work done?
WHAT CAUSES PCOS?
The cause of PCOS is unknown. But most experts think that several factors, including genetics, could play a role. Women with PCOS are more likely to have a mother or sister with PCOS.
And who knows maybe her doctor is an endocrinologist?0 -
crazyjerseygirl wrote: »I'm gonna second new Dr. here. Find one soon and get tested, you don't want to mess with diabetes!
She should find a new doctor because hers gave her a standard recommendation for her diagnosis?
Um.....did you read the original post?loosely, there is still no full on scientific evidence on what can diagnose this
The doctor has "diagnosed" her without testing her forhave PCOS.....and have had a LOT of hormonal issues these past few years.
without putting her through tests. The doctor also said she's overweight, but that part is obvious. Being overweight comes from eating too much. Being overweight and having medical issues still means you are eating too much, it just takes some "tweaking" to find your correct calorie goal.
I read a few sentence summary of an entire conversation she had with her doctor. It seems to me telling her to fire the doctor immediately instead of suggesting some questions she can ask is a knee-jerk reaction. She got news that shocked her, and it's very likely she didn't register or understand everything that was said. Could you imagine if every cancer patient fired their doctor because they didn't catch every word of the conversation that followed after getting the news?
Oh my....my.....for goodness sake.
I can't believe this is what you got out of her post.
That's your issue.
Riiiggghhht.
She gave enough information: she has not been tested for those issues, yet her doctor is diagnosing her.
Oh my..my goodness sake. It sounds like you have had issues with the medical field
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From WebMDNo single test can show that you have polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS). Your doctor will talk to you about your medical history, do a physical exam, and run some tests.
Doctors look a variety of thing to determine is you have PCOS. There is no way to have a definitive 100% diagnosis (like a blood test). A doctor has too take note of all of her symptoms as well as test results and make an educated decision to say, with a fair amount of certainty, that these things all point to PCOS. It's basically, hey we can't 100% say that you have this but based on the evidence you certainly seem to have this, so you more than likely do.
But to answer your question, it does sound like you're in ketosis. I would recommend going back and speaking to your doctor. You don't necessarily need to go Keto for PCOS, but if you like it then I don't really see a problem with doing it. I know another way of eating that is also popular with people with PCOS is eating low glycemic index foods/food combinations. If your doctor isn't an endocrinologist I would ask for a referral to one, as well as a referral to speak to a dietitian. That may help you with understanding your condition better. Good luck, I hope everything turns out well for you. 0 -
jrodri0105 wrote: »crazyjerseygirl wrote: »I'm gonna second new Dr. here. Find one soon and get tested, you don't want to mess with diabetes!
She should find a new doctor because hers gave her a standard recommendation for her diagnosis?
Um.....did you read the original post?loosely, there is still no full on scientific evidence on what can diagnose this
The doctor has "diagnosed" her without testing her forhave PCOS.....and have had a LOT of hormonal issues these past few years.
without putting her through tests. The doctor also said she's overweight, but that part is obvious. Being overweight comes from eating too much. Being overweight and having medical issues still means you are eating too much, it just takes some "tweaking" to find your correct calorie goal.
I read a few sentence summary of an entire conversation she had with her doctor. It seems to me telling her to fire the doctor immediately instead of suggesting some questions she can ask is a knee-jerk reaction. She got news that shocked her, and it's very likely she didn't register or understand everything that was said. Could you imagine if every cancer patient fired their doctor because they didn't catch every word of the conversation that followed after getting the news?
Oh my....my.....for goodness sake.
I can't believe this is what you got out of her post.
That's your issue.
Riiiggghhht.
She gave enough information: she has not been tested for those issues, yet her doctor is diagnosing her.
Oh my..my goodness sake. It sounds like you have had issues with the medical field
Yeah no.... Diagnosing someone with something without testing them for it can be dangerous and in some places fits the definition of malpractice.
Say I show up to someone's house (I'm a medic) and the person is unresponsive, so I give them dextrose via the IV without even testing their blood sugar level before hand, and it turns out they were actually in a coma from DKA or overdosed on something, I'd lose my job in a heartbeat. There are reasons that there are standardized tests and reference ranges to diagnose someone.0 -
"There's no specific test to definitively diagnose polycystic ovary syndrome." (c) Mayo Clinic0
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Okay thank you for (most) of the responses.
To answer a few questions- YES I have blood work done about four times a year. I had some taken that day and still haven't gotten a call saying I'm dying so hopes are high. And the most recent comments are correct... There is no medical way to diagnose PCOS fully. Most doctors just go by symptoms, test testoserone in blood and suggest options to get rid of symptoms. Lastly, no she didn't suggest a Keto diet she suggested a low carb diet. I chose going (or trying out) Keto on my own because I read others had success when all other weight loss methods failed (and it helps with pcos).
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jrodri0105 wrote: »crazyjerseygirl wrote: »I'm gonna second new Dr. here. Find one soon and get tested, you don't want to mess with diabetes!
She should find a new doctor because hers gave her a standard recommendation for her diagnosis?
Um.....did you read the original post?loosely, there is still no full on scientific evidence on what can diagnose this
The doctor has "diagnosed" her without testing her forhave PCOS.....and have had a LOT of hormonal issues these past few years.
without putting her through tests. The doctor also said she's overweight, but that part is obvious. Being overweight comes from eating too much. Being overweight and having medical issues still means you are eating too much, it just takes some "tweaking" to find your correct calorie goal.
I read a few sentence summary of an entire conversation she had with her doctor. It seems to me telling her to fire the doctor immediately instead of suggesting some questions she can ask is a knee-jerk reaction. She got news that shocked her, and it's very likely she didn't register or understand everything that was said. Could you imagine if every cancer patient fired their doctor because they didn't catch every word of the conversation that followed after getting the news?
Oh my....my.....for goodness sake.
I can't believe this is what you got out of her post.
That's your issue.
Riiiggghhht.
She gave enough information: she has not been tested for those issues, yet her doctor is diagnosing her.
Oh my..my goodness sake. It sounds like you have had issues with the medical field
Yeah no.... Diagnosing someone with something without testing them for it can be dangerous and in some places fits the definition of malpractice.
Say I show up to someone's house (I'm a medic) and the person is unresponsive, so I give them dextrose via the IV without even testing their blood sugar level before hand, and it turns out they were actually in a coma from DKA or overdosed on something, I'd lose my job in a heartbeat. There are reasons that there are standardized tests and reference ranges to diagnose someone.
Where are you guys getting this ridiculous idea? Do you honestly believe the OP self diagnosed herself with "hormonal issues" several years ago, her doctor completely ignored it, and then just pulled a PCOS diagnosis out of her *kitten* 4 days ago for no reason? It doesn't seem at all possible that maybe, just maybe, the doctor has been doing tests to diagnose these "hormonal issues" for several years, the tests have been too inconclusive, but her symptoms match the diagnosis, so they're going to try treating for it to see if it helps? No doctor would ever do such a thing?0 -
PCOS is a diagnosis of exclusion, meaning all other conditions have been ruled out. OP didn't say if other disorders/illness were ruled out. If they haven't been, then yes, she should find a different doctor.0
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PCOS is a diagnosis of exclusion, meaning all other conditions have been ruled out. OP didn't say if other disorders/illness were ruled out. If they haven't been, then yes, she should find a different doctor.
Still doesn't answer my question - where are you getting the info that the doctor has performed 0 tests or investigation?0 -
PCOS is a diagnosis of exclusion, meaning all other conditions have been ruled out. OP didn't say if other disorders/illness were ruled out. If they haven't been, then yes, she should find a different doctor.
Still doesn't answer my question - where are you getting the info that the doctor has performed 0 tests or investigation?
A lot of people just read what they want to read...not what is actually there. I don't know what is it about this site. It's like every single person here went to Harvard medical school, got multiple PhDs in eight different science specialties, AND reads every medical journal in existence from cover to cover every month. They are all also psychic, so they know they answers to anything not written without even asking. They also know better than the person who writes a post what that person actually meant by that post.
They all know better than highly trained professionals who specialize in whatever the given topic is. If the doctor/trainer/nutritionist didn't recommend exactly what they believe is appropriate based on 10 lines of text and no exam, then the doctor /trainer/nutritionist must be fired! LOL!
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MoiAussi93 wrote: »PCOS is a diagnosis of exclusion, meaning all other conditions have been ruled out. OP didn't say if other disorders/illness were ruled out. If they haven't been, then yes, she should find a different doctor.
Still doesn't answer my question - where are you getting the info that the doctor has performed 0 tests or investigation?
A lot of people just read what they want to read...not what is actually there. I don't know what is it about this site. It's like every single person here went to Harvard medical school, got multiple PhDs in eight different science specialties, AND reads every medical journal in existence from cover to cover every month. They are all also psychic, so they know they answers to anything not written without even asking. They also know better than the person who writes a post what that person actually meant by that post.
They all know better than highly trained professionals who specialize in whatever the given topic is. If the doctor/trainer/nutritionist didn't recommend exactly what they believe is appropriate based on 10 lines of text and no exam, then the doctor /trainer/nutritionist must be fired! LOL!
Exactly! I posted up above that the doctor suggested low carb not keto like the other poster suggested. No reading comprehension at all! It's funny how they just assume these things without getting any clarification from op. Fire the dr he/she's an idiot! Come on!! I find there's some people who go ape @&$& at the mention of keto.... Best of luck op!0 -
You have not suddenly developed diabetes if you are seeing signs of ketosis from your keto diet. Yes, four days is enough to see early signs.
I would suggest, if you don't really know what you are doing, are concerned, or want to do something a little less stressful that you do a low carb but no full keto.
Nothing wrong with it - but it can be a very strict diet method and the physiological consequences of going in/out of keto are very tiring.
Low carb for PCOS seems to work for a lot of people, I believe that there is a PCOS group here - search it.
Good luck.
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PCOS isn't the end of the world. I'm surviving quite easily with it
I had an internal scan of my ovaries and blood tests done to "diagnose" my condition. I also have pretty much all the symptoms which is awesome... not.
OP... Please do not panic. PCOS isn't that bad in the grand scheme of things. If you can get your weight down, you'll feel a bajillion times better I promise 0 -
crazyjerseygirl wrote: »I'm gonna second new Dr. here. Find one soon and get tested, you don't want to mess with diabetes!
She should find a new doctor because hers gave her a standard recommendation for her diagnosis?
Um.....did you read the original post?loosely, there is still no full on scientific evidence on what can diagnose this
The doctor has "diagnosed" her without testing her forhave PCOS.....and have had a LOT of hormonal issues these past few years.
without putting her through tests. The doctor also said she's overweight, but that part is obvious. Being overweight comes from eating too much. Being overweight and having medical issues still means you are eating too much, it just takes some "tweaking" to find your correct calorie goal.
I read a few sentence summary of an entire conversation she had with her doctor. It seems to me telling her to fire the doctor immediately instead of suggesting some questions she can ask is a knee-jerk reaction. She got news that shocked her, and it's very likely she didn't register or understand everything that was said. Could you imagine if every cancer patient fired their doctor because they didn't catch every word of the conversation that followed after getting the news?
Oh my....my.....for goodness sake.
I can't believe this is what you got out of her post.
That's your issue.
Riiiggghhht.
She gave enough information: she has not been tested for those issues, yet her doctor is diagnosing her.
That's also your assumption. She stated issues for "years". How about you ask her instead of assuming? Unless you are suggesting you were in the room with her and the doctor?
Nope, I suggested no such thing.jrodri0105 wrote: »crazyjerseygirl wrote: »I'm gonna second new Dr. here. Find one soon and get tested, you don't want to mess with diabetes!
She should find a new doctor because hers gave her a standard recommendation for her diagnosis?
Um.....did you read the original post?loosely, there is still no full on scientific evidence on what can diagnose this
The doctor has "diagnosed" her without testing her forhave PCOS.....and have had a LOT of hormonal issues these past few years.
without putting her through tests. The doctor also said she's overweight, but that part is obvious. Being overweight comes from eating too much. Being overweight and having medical issues still means you are eating too much, it just takes some "tweaking" to find your correct calorie goal.
I read a few sentence summary of an entire conversation she had with her doctor. It seems to me telling her to fire the doctor immediately instead of suggesting some questions she can ask is a knee-jerk reaction. She got news that shocked her, and it's very likely she didn't register or understand everything that was said. Could you imagine if every cancer patient fired their doctor because they didn't catch every word of the conversation that followed after getting the news?
Oh my....my.....for goodness sake.
I can't believe this is what you got out of her post.
That's your issue.
Riiiggghhht.
She gave enough information: she has not been tested for those issues, yet her doctor is diagnosing her.
Oh my..my goodness sake. It sounds like you have had issues with the medical field
Really? Really.
Now you are assuming. I have an excellent doctor, yet he does not diagnose without testing. He will say because of certain symptoms he wants to look into a certain area, but he would not render an unfounded diagnosis.
I definitely believe in second opinions, and I have changed doctors as well.0
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