I watched Fat, Sick and Nearly dead

farfromthetree wrote: »

I know it sounds like people are trying to derail your first day. If you are set on supplementing one meal a day, can I recommend a protein shake instead? It will keep you full longer and provide you with enormous benefits of protein. Not sure what you are putting in the juice but it's probably high calorie/high sugar and will just spike your insulin levels (and you will still be hungry)
I agree with what everyone said about just eat at a modest calorie deficit/hitting macros. I know you will not agree to this since your mind is made up but if I were going to supplement a meal, it would be a protein shake

sugaraddict4321 wrote: »

I'm not going to tell you not to juice. If you like it, then go for it. But there's no need to consume ONLY juice for a month. Make sure you're getting enough protein and that you eat some pulp, as that's where the fiber is. I have some friends that just recently tried what you plan to do, and it was difficult for them. Because they consumed nothing but juice for a week, they had no energy and headaches. One of them plays a lot of sports and thought he was having a heart attack during a game. The doctor said his blood sugar was out of whack with all the juice and he'd not consumed enough calories to sustain his activity level. I love juice, but I'd never restrict myself to that alone for more than a day and then eat normally again. If you're interested in fasting, consider checking out the 5:2 groups here. I think you'll find more support for this type of fast. Good luck.

maniacallaugh wrote: »

The first time I joined MFP (under a different name), I made the mistake of mentioning that I think genetics matter in terms of whether or not one is prone to obesity. I got slammed with two pages of simple "WRONG" responses (which I think is the rudest, most unconstructive reply one can possibly make) and "CICO, DUMBA**". I dumped the app right then and there.

I'm back with the app at the advisement of a degreed dietician and trainer, and I've learned a lesson about MFP. There are a lot of unsupportive jerks here, but for every jerk, there's about 10 people who legitimately want to offer you help in succeeding. They might come accross as brass and tough, but I think they're interested in supporting through a shared knowledge base and experience.

For me, I found "Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead" to be motivational. I didn't mimic its methods, and I didn't agree with it 100%, but it sure made me want to get up and move. If that's all it does, then it's a decent tool. And if you want to try juicing, then go for it! Any program is better than no program, and maybe it'll work for you.

Caitwn wrote: »

Your first post specifically said "juice fast". That is absolutely going to set off alarm bells for folks. You already said your sugar intake is on the high side, and emphasizing juices with a high proportion of fruit juice has the potential for tipping your physiology into even more risky territory.

You can find "supportive communities" all over the internet for overtly dangerous eating behaviors, which is another reason you are seeing some strong responses here. Some of the vehemence you are seeing is because people are actually feeling protective of you. Take a moment to consider that.

If you want a community that will never question you, prod you, or ask you to examine claims and evidence, then MFP is not going to be a comfortable spot for you.

While there are knee-jerk types here, and on any message boards, who will jump in with misinformation or needless criticism, you learn to filter that stuff out and ignore it while attending to those who are expressing reasonable and thoughtful concern. That's one of the reasons this site is for adults and not adolescents.

I get that "Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead" is inspiring. I enjoyed watching it too - I was in tears over the truck driver who reached out for help, and was so moved by his eventual victory...as well as being so damned sad to hear he'd gained it all back.

I also know that long-term success after using the strategies recommended is pretty low. I'm genuinely glad you are motivated to do something! I think part of the reaction here (including my own response) is after seeing so many people try relatively extreme solutions and ultimately failing again, thus making future changes even more difficult because of hopelessness.

For me, the only "transitioning tool" that has really worked has been education about nutrition and exercise combined with learning about my own eating patterns, topped off with a big dose of motivation by reading about long-term success stories. Good luck to you - I really do hope this works for you, but I also hope you stick around here and start exploring other possibilities either for now or in future.