When does surplus-eating turn to fat?
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My doc has advised me to gain some weight, mainly because my period has been missing for 21 months, and that I actually ended up getting a little underweight after my weightloss.
I've been eating at a large surplus for the past 1½ weeks, and I deffinitely feel really fat now, even though I know I'm not, but it feels like I'm already so much more blubbery. And I can deffinitely tell my boobs are a lot bigger, because I was spilling out of my bra. Do you think it's likely that I already converted it to fat storage, or am I just feeling flabby and have swollen breasts because the surplus-eating might have triggered my period to soon return?
I've been eating at a large surplus for the past 1½ weeks, and I deffinitely feel really fat now, even though I know I'm not, but it feels like I'm already so much more blubbery. And I can deffinitely tell my boobs are a lot bigger, because I was spilling out of my bra. Do you think it's likely that I already converted it to fat storage, or am I just feeling flabby and have swollen breasts because the surplus-eating might have triggered my period to soon return?
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If you are eating more than you burn, you will store fat. If you lift or do some kind of body resistance training, you might use some of those extra calories to build muscle, but this is hard work.0
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If you are eating more than you burn, you will store fat. If you lift or do some kind of body resistance training, you might use some of those extra calories to build muscle, but this is hard work.
I'm not particulary interested in building muscle, I need to gain fat. My question was whether my feeling of 'flabbyness' and larger breasts could be attributed to having stored fat already or if I have to wait a little longer to see results, or, if it's because the surplus-eating has triggered my period to return, before I've even started storing fat.0 -
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If you eat roughly 3,500 calorie above maintenance for a week, you will put on roughly 1 Lb of fat. Also, if it's only been a week, a lot of what you're probably feeling and seeing is water...just like when you lose weight and lose a lot of water at first, you gain a lot of water when you initially go into a surplus.0
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You're probably just carrying a lot of extra water weight as I'm sure you have upped your carbs along with eating more calories. The bloat and swelling with go down, I doubt you've gained too much fat yet0
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asflatasapancake wrote: »Eating at a surplus will gain fat. No way around that. Like rbiss said, weight lifting can help build muscle, but at no point will you ever just gain muscle and zero fat while eating in a surplus. I'm certainly no expert, but I haven't read that there's an exact percentage of fat vs muscle gained while bulking. Someone who is smarter than me might want to chime in about that.
Why does everyone think I want to gain muscle, lol, I have no interest in that. I just want to feel better and get my period back, and my doc thinks gaining fat and eating at a surplus might help that.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »If you eat roughly 3,500 calorie above maintenance for a week, you will put on roughly 1 Lb of fat. Also, if it's only been a week, a lot of what you're probably feeling and seeing is water...just like when you lose weight and lose a lot of water at first, you gain a lot of water when you initially go into a surplus.
But do you know how fast? Like, I know that if I eat surplus 875 for 1 day, I'm not gonna have build a quarter lb fat on my boobs the next day.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »If you eat roughly 3,500 calorie above maintenance for a week, you will put on roughly 1 Lb of fat. Also, if it's only been a week, a lot of what you're probably feeling and seeing is water...just like when you lose weight and lose a lot of water at first, you gain a lot of water when you initially go into a surplus.
But do you know how fast? Like, I know that if I eat surplus 875 for 1 day, I'm not gonna have build a quarter lb fat on my boobs the next day.
you're seriously overthinking this...there is not really an answer to your question.0 -
annette_15 wrote: »You're probably just carrying a lot of extra water weight as I'm sure you have upped your carbs along with eating more calories. The bloat and swelling with go down, I doubt you've gained too much fat yet
Yes, deffinitely more carbs. And salt, I think - I usually kind of forget to add salt in my cooking, but I've been eating a lot of food cooked by others now.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »If you eat roughly 3,500 calorie above maintenance for a week, you will put on roughly 1 Lb of fat. Also, if it's only been a week, a lot of what you're probably feeling and seeing is water...just like when you lose weight and lose a lot of water at first, you gain a lot of water when you initially go into a surplus.
But do you know how fast? Like, I know that if I eat surplus 875 for 1 day, I'm not gonna have build a quarter lb fat on my boobs the next day.
you're seriously overthinking this...there is not really an answer to your question.
I'm just hoping it's my period returning. 21 months is a long time, so everytime in over 1½ years I've felt a tummy ache, sensitive boobs, or irratable mood, I've begged for it to be my long missed period!0 -
I will just share with you my knowledge for nutrition but can't speak on your period
If you've been in a surplus for only a week and a half there are a few things happening......
1. Water retention
2. Glycogen storage for your muscles (everyone has muscle :-) )
3. Fat gain
4. Muscle gain although very minimal with no resistance training
Depending on the amount of the surplus and where you were at pre-surplus calorie wise; your hormones may be thrown out of whack which triggered your early period. Not only does the difference in calories matter, so does the amount of dietary fat you are consuming. Fat is good for you as it is what fuels our hormones amongst many other things.
As a male, I notice when I'm restricting calories (cutting) or have a surplus of calories (bulking) my libido is affected. I also notice a change in my facial complexion as I have sensitive skin, when I increase my fat intake I break out a bit until my hormone levels taper off.
I hope this helps.....
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If you're NOT resistance training at all, and are in surplus, undoubtedly the majority of gain will be extra fat. Building muscle takes progressive overload resistance and you usually attain that lifting weights with high volume.
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If you're NOT resistance training at all, and are in surplus, undoubtedly the majority of gain will be extra fat. Building muscle takes progressive overload resistance and you usually attain that lifting weights with high volume.
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I never said I wanted to gain muscle. The 'options' I considered was if it was fat storage, or period-bloating. I would view both of those options as positive for my health.0 -
Your goal is to get your period maybe pregnant, right? First you have to ovulate. Assuming your hormones will work properly, it takes approximately 2 weeks after ovulation to get your period. Gaining weight in a 1 1/2 week to any degree may take some patience before this happens. You may have to work on this for a few months before any success. Get yourself in a safe body fat range steadily and to your doctor's recommendation. 5lb? 10lb? Maintain that for at least 4 weeks.
Remember to eat healthy fats to replenish your body properly. A little olive oil on your salad or avocado are good choices. If you're super ambitious try grass-fed free-ranged fatty meats.
On a personal note, I feel can flabby after only 2 days of eating. I can feel it in my arms which makes me think its more than just bloat. Its energy storage, it wouldn't just flush out of your system with your waste. I'd say you may have put on some fat. If you were eating in deficient you'll find fat storage to be a lot faster and quicker than before, too.0 -
asflatasapancake wrote: »Eating at a surplus will gain fat. No way around that. Like rbiss said, weight lifting can help build muscle, but at no point will you ever just gain muscle and zero fat while eating in a surplus. I'm certainly no expert, but I haven't read that there's an exact percentage of fat vs muscle gained while bulking. Someone who is smarter than me might want to chime in about that.
Why does everyone think I want to gain muscle, lol, I have no interest in that. I just want to feel better and get my period back, and my doc thinks gaining fat and eating at a surplus might help that.
because most people don't want to add 100% fat...
but if that is your goal then keeping eating in a surplus with zero exercise and you should have no issues.0 -
I do not get why OP would want this, but to each their ownasflatasapancake wrote: »Eating at a surplus will gain fat. No way around that. Like rbiss said, weight lifting can help build muscle, but at no point will you ever just gain muscle and zero fat while eating in a surplus. I'm certainly no expert, but I haven't read that there's an exact percentage of fat vs muscle gained while bulking. Someone who is smarter than me might want to chime in about that.
Why does everyone think I want to gain muscle, lol, I have no interest in that. I just want to feel better and get my period back, and my doc thinks gaining fat and eating at a surplus might help that.
because most people don't want to add 100% fat...
but if that is your goal then keeping eating in a surplus with zero exercise and you should have no issues.
That being said, I legit gain 100% fat this weekend.
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cwolfman13 wrote: »If you eat roughly 3,500 calorie above maintenance for a week, you will put on roughly 1 Lb of fat. Also, if it's only been a week, a lot of what you're probably feeling and seeing is water...just like when you lose weight and lose a lot of water at first, you gain a lot of water when you initially go into a surplus.
But do you know how fast? Like, I know that if I eat surplus 875 for 1 day, I'm not gonna have build a quarter lb fat on my boobs the next day.
it can sometimes take two weeks for it to show on the scale...
you will probably also gain about five pounds of water/glycogen weight which is not really fat ....0 -
besee_2000 wrote: »Your goal is to get your period maybe pregnant, right? First you have to ovulate. Assuming your hormones will work properly, it takes approximately 2 weeks after ovulation to get your period. Gaining weight in a 1 1/2 week to any degree may take some patience before this happens. You may have to work on this for a few months before any success. Get yourself in a safe body fat range steadily and to your doctor's recommendation. 5lb? 10lb? Maintain that for at least 4 weeks.
Remember to eat healthy fats to replenish your body properly. A little olive oil on your salad or avocado are good choices. If you're super ambitious try grass-fed free-ranged fatty meats.
On a personal note, I feel can flabby after only 2 days of eating. I can feel it in my arms which makes me think its more than just bloat. Its energy storage, it wouldn't just flush out of your system with your waste. I'd say you may have put on some fat. If you were eating in deficient you'll find fat storage to be a lot faster and quicker than before, too.
Yes, I'm not looking to get pregnant right now, but of course, if I never get my period, I'm infertile, which would make me very sad. So the sooner I get it back, the less of a concern that will be. And I also have other health problems that might be caused by too low fat% and consuming too little energy.
My doc wanted me to gain 15lbs. I have been eating more fat too, but I actually think it's mostly carbs I've added, they don't fill me up as much, so I can eat more like that, they stimulate to my appetite
I also feel it on my arms and thighs, which is what makes me feel like it's already turned to fat, not just a bloating stomach from eating more than I'm used to. But it just seems so fast that it would have distributed to my body - I was eating at a large deficit before these 1½ weeks, so the contrast to the huge amounts I feel like I eat now, I would expect to make my stomach feel hugely full.0 -
Chances are the weight is just the fat you're looking to put on, and the feeling flabby is a matter of self-image.My doc has advised me to gain some weight, mainly because my period has been missing for 21 months, and that I actually ended up getting a little underweight after my weightloss.
I've been eating at a large surplus for the past 1½ weeks, and I deffinitely feel really fat now, even though I know I'm not, but it feels like I'm already so much more blubbery. And I can deffinitely tell my boobs are a lot bigger, because I was spilling out of my bra. Do you think it's likely that I already converted it to fat storage, or am I just feeling flabby and have swollen breasts because the surplus-eating might have triggered my period to soon return?
If you were bloated from your period returning, that would mean you'd gained even less fat than you thought, which would mean it would be even less likely to be enough to return your period.
Your body is continuously storing and removing fat at the same time, so there's not exact answer one how quickly fat storage happens. If you're at a healthy weight and don't want to have to gain more to restore your period, why not try to maintain and see if it comes back?0 -
I do not get why OP would want this, but to each their own
That being said, I legit gain 100% fat this weekend.
Because I pass out, my heart rate is dangerously low, my blood pressure is low, I'm freezing all the time, and I'm scared I've made myself infertile since it's been almost 2 years since I've had my period and much more. And my doctors' best theory right now is that it's due to too low body fat. So that's why gaining bodyfat is my goal. Yes, there are actually reasons why someone would want to gain fat, it's not that odd of a goal.0 -
Also to remember is that we have the same amount of fat cells at 100lb as we do 200lb. They just enlarge. (I'm 85% confident about that remembering from school years.) So its not like the body needs to BUILD fat it just contributes to it.0
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After a week and a half I think most of it is in your head, especially if you went from a massive deficit.0
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OP - do you have an eating disorder...? If yes, then you really need to discuss this stuff with your dr and/or treatment team....0
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OP - do you have an eating disorder...? If yes, then you really need to discuss this stuff with your dr and/or treatment team....
No - I just got too skinny. I had been losing weight (since I was morbidly obese), and I kind of 'forgot' how to eat at maintance rather than a deficit because I had been at it for so long. So I'm working on gaining, until I get better, and then work on 'learning' to maintain.0 -
OP I give you mad props for pursuing a healthier lifestyle. A woman's body needs "flab" to keep us thriving. Best of luck to your goals. Don't be discouraged by the mirror or how your clothes fit.0
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besee_2000 wrote: »Also to remember is that we have the same amount of fat cells at 100lb as we do 200lb. They just enlarge. (I'm 85% confident about that remembering from school years.) So its not like the body needs to BUILD fat it just contributes to it.
No, that was taught for a long time as a hypothesis, but it has been confirmed, your fat cells do die off and get replaced, so that every ten years there are probably no originals left.0 -
besee_2000 wrote: »Also to remember is that we have the same amount of fat cells at 100lb as we do 200lb. They just enlarge. (I'm 85% confident about that remembering from school years.) So its not like the body needs to BUILD fat it just contributes to it.
That's true, I guess that makes more sense how it could turn to fat quickly, since it's just 'filling' the cells, rahter than actually having to build anything.0 -
I was responding to you NOT building muscle. If you don't want to build muscle and just gain fat, then DON'T do resistance training in a surplus. I promise you, you won't build muscle doing it that way. Unless of course you gain like 50lbs or something.If you're NOT resistance training at all, and are in surplus, undoubtedly the majority of gain will be extra fat. Building muscle takes progressive overload resistance and you usually attain that lifting weights with high volume.
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I never said I wanted to gain muscle. The 'options' I considered was if it was fat storage, or period-bloating. I would view both of those options as positive for my health.
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Not to push the subject as it is your own private business, but it might help to know your height and weights at various points (particularly the lowest point you got to, and what you're at now). Like if you're 5'10" and still sitting at just over a 100, I wouldn't expect your hormones to be in fixed today or tomorrow.OP - do you have an eating disorder...? If yes, then you really need to discuss this stuff with your dr and/or treatment team....
No - I just got too skinny. I had been losing weight (since I was morbidly obese), and I kind of 'forgot' how to eat at maintance rather than a deficit because I had been at it for so long. So I'm working on gaining, until I get better, and then work on 'learning' to maintain.0
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