A fruit is a fruit is a fruit!
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It depends on what definition of "fruit" is being used:Need2Exerc1se wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »For whatever reason, the forums the past couple of days are contributed by people who either claim they are allergic to fruit or just don't like it. Then they name numerous alternatives to fruit, most of which are (egads!) fruit!
Just so you know, the following are actually fruits:
Avocado, beans, peapods, corn kernels, cucumbers (which includes pickles), grains, nuts, olives peppers, pumpkin, squash, sunflower seeds and tomatoes. Vegetables include celery (stem), lettuce (leaves), cauliflower and broccoli (buds), and beets, carrots and potatoes (roots).
Hope this helps everyone.
I don't think is correct. Nuts and seeds are not fruits, the (often inedible) pods that hold them are. Root vegetables and tubers are not fruits, they are roots and tubers. Flowering vegetables like broccoli, even the flowers, are not fruits.
- part of a ripened ovary of a flowering plant (here)
- any edible part of a plant which may not be from a flowering ovary (here)
I feel OP may be going with the latter.
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People frequently use the word "allergy" when they mean "doesn't agree with me." It's worked it's way into the language like that. They don't use the word "intolerance."
If you want to know if it's a real allergy without being offensive, ask, "What happens when you eat it?" and then you'll know without having to address the fact that it isn't really an allergy. You get your info and they never have to know that they don't really have an allergy.
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Sadly I am allergic to Kiwi...it's strange but as soon as I eat it my lips swell and I start to itch all over with hives. This didn't happen until I got well into my 40's. After much allergy testing it was shown that crawfish and kiwi have to be taken out of my diet. So yes, it is possible to be allergic to fruit...or at least types of fruit.lemurcat12 wrote: »I don't think it's possible to be allergic to all fruit. (And I'd hope it's not possible to dislike all of it, but I am endlessly amazed by how narrow some people's taste preferences are.)
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »For whatever reason, the forums the past couple of days are contributed by people who either claim they are allergic to fruit or just don't like it. Then they name numerous alternatives to fruit, most of which are (egads!) fruit!
Just so you know, the following are actually fruits:
Avocado, beans, peapods, corn kernels, cucumbers (which includes pickles), grains, nuts, olives peppers, pumpkin, squash, sunflower seeds and tomatoes. Vegetables include celery (stem), lettuce (leaves), cauliflower and broccoli (buds), and beets, carrots and potatoes (roots).
Hope this helps everyone.
I don't think is correct. Nuts and seeds are not fruits, the (often inedible) pods that hold them are. Root vegetables and tubers are not fruits, they are roots and tubers. Flowering vegetables like broccoli, even the flowers, are not fruits.
Where did I say that root vegetables and broccoli are fruits? What's the difference between root vegetables and tubers? I'm sure there some miniscule difference, but they are both clearly vegetables.0 -
atypicalsmith wrote: »EcxMommyL2015 wrote: »A general rule of thumb is if it has seeds or a pit inside of it, it's a fruit.
Except for strawberries. (I think.)
Slightly off topic but, I've heard a strawberry isn't really a berry. But a banana is. Banana trees aren't trees either; they're the world's largest something or other. And pineapples are also berries - lots of individual berries, fused together. Weird.
I'm trying to wrap my mind around a pickle being a fruit; I just can't see it 0 -
bdtyson77302 wrote: »
Sadly I am allergic to Kiwi...it's strange but as soon as I eat it my lips swell and I start to itch all over with hives. This didn't happen until I got well into my 40's. After much allergy testing it was shown that crawfish and kiwi have to be taken out of my diet. So yes, it is possible to be allergic to fruit...or at least types of fruit.lemurcat12 wrote: »I don't think it's possible to be allergic to all fruit. (And I'd hope it's not possible to dislike all of it, but I am endlessly amazed by how narrow some people's taste preferences are.)
Oh no! Not crawfish!!!0 -
@elphie754 , it is possible also to reduce allergy symptoms through gradual exposure.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/gradual-exposure-may-overcome-allergies-to-eggs-and-other-foods/2012/07/30/gJQA4U9tKX_story.html
The other interesting thing with childhood food allergies is baked egg and baked milk. (I'm going from memory on the numbers here): they've found about 80% of kids with a (legit, diagnosed) egg or dairy allergy can tolerate it when it is baked (like in a cake or biscuit), and that if, after ascertaining the kid can tolerate it they then eat the baked allergen regularly for an extended period (6 months/a year) they are then likely to tolerate it in other forms, usually first cooked and then eventually raw. Most kids then don't have the allergy anymore after a couple years.
My 2 year old is allergic (legit, diagnosed, measured a 7 and 8 on the skin prick) to dairy and egg, and did her challenges at 18 months old and has been eating cake every day (lucky thing) for almost a year. Here's hoping it works.
Wish they could do the same for my allergies. I don't have an epipen for *kitten* and giggles.
And yes, both my daughter and I have been given our allergens at restaurants when specifically stating not to. My daughter just threw up everywhere and had hives all over her face - I've ended up worse off. People need to take allergies more seriously, which means people need to stop self diagnosing and then claiming allergy everywhere. And then there's the food babe... Grrr0 -
happysquidmuffin wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »EcxMommyL2015 wrote: »A general rule of thumb is if it has seeds or a pit inside of it, it's a fruit.
Except for strawberries. (I think.)
Slightly off topic but, I've heard a strawberry isn't really a berry. But a banana is. Banana trees aren't trees either; they're the world's largest something or other. And pineapples are also berries - lots of individual berries, fused together. Weird.
I'm trying to wrap my mind around a pickle being a fruit; I just can't see it
I can't either, LOL!!!0 -
Some of us who have a severe intolerance to foods (i.e. get ill enough that it impairs function - not just gives indigestion) but won't technically suffer anaphylaxis still claim an allergy to that food because a lot of times people assume that "intolerant" means "just don't like" and will think "oh suck it up" and feed it to you anyway. I've been sick for weeks before because someone figured it couldn't possibly be "that bad" or I must be "just picky" - but if you say "allergy" then they're much more careful about what they feed you (in my experience anyway).0
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bdtyson77302 wrote: »
Sadly I am allergic to Kiwi...it's strange but as soon as I eat it my lips swell and I start to itch all over with hives. This didn't happen until I got well into my 40's. After much allergy testing it was shown that crawfish and kiwi have to be taken out of my diet. So yes, it is possible to be allergic to fruit...or at least types of fruit.lemurcat12 wrote: »I don't think it's possible to be allergic to all fruit. (And I'd hope it's not possible to dislike all of it, but I am endlessly amazed by how narrow some people's taste preferences are.)
Oh, I don't question whether people can be allergic to specific fruits or even categories of fruits (like citrus). No reason people couldn't be allergic to any kind of food that I can think of. What I said is that I don't think it's possible to be allergic to ALL fruit. No sufficient commonality that I can think of (unless it is something like fructose intolerance, but even that wouldn't implicate all the things that were referenced as fruit in the OP--and of course that depends on the definition of fruit being used, as others have said).0 -
I used to vomit when my mother held my hair in one and and forced liver down my throat with the other. Was I allergic? Nope, just didn't like it.0
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atypicalsmith wrote: »
Where did I say that root vegetables and broccoli are fruits?
I had to read the OP twice as made the same error. A separate paragraph for the vegetables would have been clearer as I too was left thinking "why is she saying beets are a fruit".
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I am sure you can be allergic to some fruits and not others. So suggesting alternatives that are fruit seems ok doesn't it?
Also I'm not sure on the accuracy of some of the fruit and vegetable lists here.0 -
happysquidmuffin wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »EcxMommyL2015 wrote: »A general rule of thumb is if it has seeds or a pit inside of it, it's a fruit.
Except for strawberries. (I think.)
Slightly off topic but, I've heard a strawberry isn't really a berry. But a banana is. Banana trees aren't trees either; they're the world's largest something or other. And pineapples are also berries - lots of individual berries, fused together. Weird.
I'm trying to wrap my mind around a pickle being a fruit; I just can't see it
That's true! A strawberry isn't a berry, but a banana is.
Nat Geo did a whole year of food stuff and it was really interesting (as well as gorgeous pics, of course.) They explained the whole strawberry-banana thing. I think, but am not sure, that it's because bananas have their seeds inside and strawberries don't. That would explain a cucumber or pickle being a fruit, too, but don't take it as gospel, lol.
I don't remember most of what I read, but do remember that. Strawberries aren't berries, but bananas are.
Food classification is so crazy.0 -
Reminds me of this little saying I heard.
Knowledge tells you a tomato is a fruit.
Wisdom lets you know not to include it in a fruit salad.0 -
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Rhubarb is a vegetable *nods*0
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Very true. I don't go around telling people who like berries, "Actually, a strawberry isn't a berry." I know what they mean.Reminds me of this little saying I heard.
Knowledge tells you a tomato is a fruit.
Wisdom lets you know not to include it in a fruit salad.
I still call them berries, too, because I always did and because it's just easier to use the same terms other people use than it is to try to get everyone to switch their words, lol.
It is interesting, though.
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atypicalsmith wrote: »
Where did I say that root vegetables and broccoli are fruits?
I had to read the OP twice as made the same error. A separate paragraph for the vegetables would have been clearer as I too was left thinking "why is she saying beets are a fruit".
...things that happen when you copy a piece of text out of its context:
http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-blog/fruit-vegetable-difference/bgp-20056141
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There is something called "Oral Allergy Syndrome", which is based on seasonal allergies and how the body processes the fruit like a pollen.
http://acaai.org/allergies/types/food-allergies/types-food-allergy/oral-allergy-syndrome
I have this to walnuts. It's annoying.
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happysquidmuffin wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »EcxMommyL2015 wrote: »A general rule of thumb is if it has seeds or a pit inside of it, it's a fruit.
Except for strawberries. (I think.)
Slightly off topic but, I've heard a strawberry isn't really a berry. But a banana is. Banana trees aren't trees either; they're the world's largest something or other. And pineapples are also berries - lots of individual berries, fused together. Weird.
I'm trying to wrap my mind around a pickle being a fruit; I just can't see it
That's true! A strawberry isn't a berry, but a banana is.
Nat Geo did a whole year of food stuff and it was really interesting (as well as gorgeous pics, of course.) They explained the whole strawberry-banana thing. I think, but am not sure, that it's because bananas have their seeds inside and strawberries don't. That would explain a cucumber or pickle being a fruit, too, but don't take it as gospel, lol.
I don't remember most of what I read, but do remember that. Strawberries aren't berries, but bananas are.
Food classification is so crazy.
Maybe it's called a strawberry because strawovary would be too weird
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happysquidmuffin wrote: »atypicalsmith wrote: »EcxMommyL2015 wrote: »A general rule of thumb is if it has seeds or a pit inside of it, it's a fruit.
Except for strawberries. (I think.)
Slightly off topic but, I've heard a strawberry isn't really a berry. But a banana is. Banana trees aren't trees either; they're the world's largest something or other. And pineapples are also berries - lots of individual berries, fused together. Weird.
I'm trying to wrap my mind around a pickle being a fruit; I just can't see it
Banana plants are actually in the grass family. So, technically, bananas could be considered a type of grain, rather than fruit.0 -
Don't banana plants walk?0
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I believe that quinoa is botanically a fruit.0
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Don't banana plants walk?
aha, like all my useless information I got that from QI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZabqakBJEM&safe=active
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I so wish there was a way to see QI over here. Or... to clarify... that I knew of a way to watch it.0
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My brother-in-law didn't like fish as a child- was refusing to eat fish that his mother made for dinner one night and his dad said- too bad eat it anyway, etc. Well he was allergic to fish and ended up in a coma in the hospital for three days. Sometimes if a kid says he doesn't like something there is a good reason for it- and my father-in-law never made any of his kids eat anything they didn't like ever again.0
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A lot of episodes are on YouTube if that helps. I like a lot of those British shows I never see on TV. Qi 8 out of 10 cats would I lie you etcPeachyCarol wrote: »I so wish there was a way to see QI over here. Or... to clarify... that I knew of a way to watch it.
A lot of useless trivia knowledges learned from Qi
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I'm not sure that possibility would be a guiding principle when feeding my kids, though. We've had more than a few things that they "didn't like" that they now can't get enough of after trying it.dramaqueen45 wrote: »My brother-in-law didn't like fish as a child- was refusing to eat fish that his mother made for dinner one night and his dad said- too bad eat it anyway, etc. Well he was allergic to fish and ended up in a coma in the hospital for three days. Sometimes if a kid says he doesn't like something there is a good reason for it- and my father-in-law never made any of his kids eat anything they didn't like ever again.
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