Not eating breakfast :)
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robertwilkens wrote: »I actually had a doctor who last week told me it's reasonable to have two cups of coffee w/ Half-and-half (which has calories) for breakfast (figure 150-200 calories), and that would be a reasonable amount of calories and helpful to weight loss efforts. I like the idea (coffee is a good source of energy for day).
Any "real world" opinions on this? I'm struggling right now with whether or not to have half a bagel as well, or maybe save the bagel for lunch.
This is totally personal experience so take it how you will. I have only ever had coffee first thing in the morning for more years than I like to count. This is the only time I feel full and satisfied on a liquid. As far as weight loss efforts, for me it's better not to eat too many calories early in the day as I prefer to have more later at night (around 8pm). Filling up on coffee early on helps tremendously.0 -
courtneylykins5 wrote: »robertwilkens wrote: »I actually had a doctor who last week told me it's reasonable to have two cups of coffee w/ Half-and-half (which has calories) for breakfast (figure 150-200 calories), and that would be a reasonable amount of calories and helpful to weight loss efforts. I like the idea (coffee is a good source of energy for day).
Any "real world" opinions on this? I'm struggling right now with whether or not to have half a bagel as well, or maybe save the bagel for lunch.
This is totally personal experience so take it how you will. I have only ever had coffee first thing in the morning for more years than I like to count. This is the only time I feel full and satisfied on a liquid. As far as weight loss efforts, for me it's better not to eat too many calories early in the day as I prefer to have more later at night (around 8pm). Filling up on coffee early on helps tremendously.
Caffeine is a mild appetite suppresant
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TimothyFish wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »Not eating breakfast made be hard on your health, but it doesn't impact your weight.
oh really?
how so?
I have read that going without eating for extended periods of time can cause your blood pressure to rise.
So can exercise!!!
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tennisdude2004 wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »Not eating breakfast made be hard on your health, but it doesn't impact your weight.
oh really?
how so?
I have read that going without eating for extended periods of time can cause your blood pressure to rise.
So can exercise!!!
Weight lifting, yes, but cardio actually lowers your blood pressure. Of course, since weight lifting often results in weight loss, the end result is that it also lowers blood pressure.0 -
TimothyFish wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »Not eating breakfast made be hard on your health, but it doesn't impact your weight.
oh really?
how so?
I have read that going without eating for extended periods of time can cause your blood pressure to rise.
so what if I eat breakfast and skip lunch and dinner, will that also raise blood pressure?
and please provide a source for this...0 -
Like others have said, I wouldn't worry about it. As long as you're eating enough calories through the day, the timing really doesn't matter. Personally I prefer to eat breakfast because I'm hungry when I wake up. I like to eat something small with my coffee. It just sort of helps me get going and sort of signal the start of my day!0
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Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »Not eating breakfast made be hard on your health, but it doesn't impact your weight.
oh really?
how so?
I have read that going without eating for extended periods of time can cause your blood pressure to rise.
Do you have a source for this?
I saw it here: forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2013/07/23/why-is-skipping-breakfast-so-bad-for-our-heart-health/
Thanks.Men who skipped breakfast were 27% more likely to experience heart attack or to die as the result of coronary heart disease. The men who skipped breakfast were more likely to be single, smokers, employed full-time, to drink more alcohol, were younger, and were less likely to be physically active than people who ate breakfast. Controlling for a slew of these and other risk factor for heart disease – like alcohol consumption, smoking history, body mass index, regular doctor visits, quality of diet, TV watching, activity level, and sleep habits – did reduce the link between skipping breakfast and heart disease, but didn’t obliterate it. The number of times per day the men ate wasn’t linked to heart risk.
I didn't read the study itself, but right off the bat, it seems like the high blood pressure may be more linked to the other factors and a stressful lifestyle than the actual breakfast part.
If you don't eat breakfast and live an otherwise healthy lifestyle, I don't see why it would be an issue. What about all the people who have improved their health and weight on programs like IF?
Exactly what I pulled from the article.0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »Not eating breakfast made be hard on your health, but it doesn't impact your weight.
oh really?
how so?
I have read that going without eating for extended periods of time can cause your blood pressure to rise.
Do you have a source for this?
I saw it here: forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2013/07/23/why-is-skipping-breakfast-so-bad-for-our-heart-health/
Thanks.Men who skipped breakfast were 27% more likely to experience heart attack or to die as the result of coronary heart disease. The men who skipped breakfast were more likely to be single, smokers, employed full-time, to drink more alcohol, were younger, and were less likely to be physically active than people who ate breakfast. Controlling for a slew of these and other risk factor for heart disease – like alcohol consumption, smoking history, body mass index, regular doctor visits, quality of diet, TV watching, activity level, and sleep habits – did reduce the link between skipping breakfast and heart disease, but didn’t obliterate it. The number of times per day the men ate wasn’t linked to heart risk.
I didn't read the study itself, but right off the bat, it seems like the high blood pressure may be more linked to the other factors and a stressful lifestyle than the actual breakfast part.
If you don't eat breakfast and live an otherwise healthy lifestyle, I don't see why it would be an issue. What about all the people who have improved their health and weight on programs like IF?
This is from the abstract (the article does not link to the full study)
Eating habits, including breakfast eating, were assessed in 1992 in 26 902 American men 45 to 82 years of age from the Health Professionals Follow-up Study who were free of cardiovascular disease and cancer. During 16 years of follow-up, 1527 incident CHD cases were diagnosed.
so they followed 27000 men from age 45 to 82 and found that some of them died from heart attacks..there is no information on body weight, eating habits, etc, etc, of these people, so it is impossible to claim that this was linked to not eating breakfast.0 -
As a diabetic it is recommended that I eat breakfast and should eat approximately every 3-4 hours. Eating breakfast doesn't mean you have to eat what is thought of as "breakfast" foods. I use to work nights, 7 pm to 5am. I would eat "dinner" when I got up, have something in the middle of my shift and then eat "breakfast" when I got home before I went to bed. The whole idea of breakfast is to break the "fast". Considering you probably haven't eaten anything for 10 to 12 hours your body needs that energy to get going in the morning. Whether or not you eat breakfast has little to do with weight lose unless it affects how much you eat throughout your day.0
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The purpose of eating every 3-4 hours is to maintain a more even blood glucose level.0
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Sweets1954 wrote: »The purpose of eating every 3-4 hours is to maintain a more even blood glucose level.
for diabetics yes, for the rest of us, no.0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »Not eating breakfast made be hard on your health, but it doesn't impact your weight.
oh really?
how so?
I have read that going without eating for extended periods of time can cause your blood pressure to rise.
Do you have a source for this?
I saw it here: forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2013/07/23/why-is-skipping-breakfast-so-bad-for-our-heart-health/
Thanks.Men who skipped breakfast were 27% more likely to experience heart attack or to die as the result of coronary heart disease. The men who skipped breakfast were more likely to be single, smokers, employed full-time, to drink more alcohol, were younger, and were less likely to be physically active than people who ate breakfast. Controlling for a slew of these and other risk factor for heart disease – like alcohol consumption, smoking history, body mass index, regular doctor visits, quality of diet, TV watching, activity level, and sleep habits – did reduce the link between skipping breakfast and heart disease, but didn’t obliterate it. The number of times per day the men ate wasn’t linked to heart risk.
I didn't read the study itself, but right off the bat, it seems like the high blood pressure may be more linked to the other factors and a stressful lifestyle than the actual breakfast part.
If you don't eat breakfast and live an otherwise healthy lifestyle, I don't see why it would be an issue. What about all the people who have improved their health and weight on programs like IF?
This is from the abstract (the article does not link to the full study)
Eating habits, including breakfast eating, were assessed in 1992 in 26 902 American men 45 to 82 years of age from the Health Professionals Follow-up Study who were free of cardiovascular disease and cancer. During 16 years of follow-up, 1527 incident CHD cases were diagnosed.
so they followed 27000 men from age 45 to 82 and found that some of them died from heart attacks..there is no information on body weight, eating habits, etc, etc, of these people, so it is impossible to claim that this was linked to not eating breakfast.
Ah yes, seems legit.0 -
TimothyFish wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »Not eating breakfast made be hard on your health, but it doesn't impact your weight.
oh really?
how so?
I have read that going without eating for extended periods of time can cause your blood pressure to rise.
So can exercise!!!
Weight lifting, yes, but cardio actually lowers your blood pressure. Of course, since weight lifting often results in weight loss, the end result is that it also lowers blood pressure.
cardio over time can lower blood pressure. but not while you're doing it. As you're exercising your bp is actually going up.0 -
courtneylykins5 wrote: »robertwilkens wrote: »I actually had a doctor who last week told me it's reasonable to have two cups of coffee w/ Half-and-half (which has calories) for breakfast (figure 150-200 calories), and that would be a reasonable amount of calories and helpful to weight loss efforts. I like the idea (coffee is a good source of energy for day).
Any "real world" opinions on this? I'm struggling right now with whether or not to have half a bagel as well, or maybe save the bagel for lunch.
This is totally personal experience so take it how you will. I have only ever had coffee first thing in the morning for more years than I like to count. This is the only time I feel full and satisfied on a liquid. As far as weight loss efforts, for me it's better not to eat too many calories early in the day as I prefer to have more later at night (around 8pm). Filling up on coffee early on helps tremendously.
This is totally me as well! Sometimes (in the summer especially) I just drink coffee w/half & half in the morning and then don't eat until much later in the afternoon. I like to snack at night, so I may as well save those calories for a time when i really need them!
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Personally, not having breakfast would make me one cranky lady, but it wouldn't have any ill effect on my weight. Just fit everything into your daily calories and you'll be fine.0
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If your body has adapted to not eating breakfast everyday you should be perfectly fine, it is when you start having problems Mr.Sweets having diabetic issues is when you should eat x times a day at x time.
But your body adapts to what you throw at it in most cases. So it should be fine unless you are starting to feel unnaturally tired, hungry, ext...
Personally I eat breakfast at exactly 7:30 every day, and if don't I feel like crap the rest of the day.0 -
I haven't eaten breakfast in almost 4 years and have no health problems per my latest check up. It's my opinion that eating or not eating breakfast is inconsequential to health and fitness and is purely a matter of preference for healthy adults. Do what you like and what allows you to meet your goals.0
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meganjcallaghan wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »Not eating breakfast made be hard on your health, but it doesn't impact your weight.
oh really?
how so?
I have read that going without eating for extended periods of time can cause your blood pressure to rise.
So can exercise!!!
Weight lifting, yes, but cardio actually lowers your blood pressure. Of course, since weight lifting often results in weight loss, the end result is that it also lowers blood pressure.
cardio over time can lower blood pressure. but not while you're doing it. As you're exercising your bp is actually going up.
As you are exercising, your blood vessels expand to allow for your blood to flow more freely. If they didn't, the super fast heart rates that result from exercise would cause big problems. Because they remain in an expanded state for a while after exercise, your blood pressure goes down.0 -
According to studies by the National Weight Control Registry, 78% of those who have lost at least 30 lb. and kept it off for at least a year eat breakfast every day.
This tells me that breakfast is a popular meal and keeps many people from getting too hungry. It also tells me that breakfast is not for everybody. Do what makes you feel the best and works in with your calories.0 -
Find yourself an awesome protein shake, and you will be good to go0
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According to studies by the National Weight Control Registry, 78% of those who have lost at least 30 lb. and kept it off for at least a year eat breakfast every day.
This tells me that breakfast is a popular meal and keeps many people from getting too hungry. It also tells me that breakfast is not for everybody. Do what makes you feel the best and works in with your calories.
That is interesting. I wonder what percentage of the general population eats breakfast every day.0 -
According to studies by the National Weight Control Registry, 78% of those who have lost at least 30 lb. and kept it off for at least a year eat breakfast every day.
This tells me that breakfast is a popular meal and keeps many people from getting too hungry. It also tells me that breakfast is not for everybody. Do what makes you feel the best and works in with your calories.
That is interesting. I wonder what percentage of the general population eats breakfast every day.
I found this through Google (FWIW. It was quoted in a number of sources) "The Morning MealScape 2011 study surveyed 27,179 Americans from January 10 through March 7, 2011. The results indicated that males ages 18-34 are most likely to skip breakfast (28 percent) and females ages 55 and older were the most likely to eat a morning meal; only 10 percent reported skipping breakfast."
Another stat I found was that 44% of Americans do not eat breakfast every day.
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Sweets1954 wrote: »The purpose of eating every 3-4 hours is to maintain a more even blood glucose level.
for diabetics yes, for the rest of us, no.
Agreed. The fun thing about studies is that if you decide to go on ahead and take a "shotgun" approach to the study you're conducting, you can find all kinds of correlation, but not necessarily causation.
I'm inclined to think of that scene from the Simpsons where Lisa tells Homer that because there are no tigers around, "this rock" must keep them away.
For starters, as a proponent of intermittent fasting, I'd suggest you no longer refer to it as "skipping breakfast", as this has both an unhealthy and negative connotation to it among the fitness community, which doesn't seem to be going anywhere any time soon. I prefer the term "postponed breakfast", as it's still your "break-fast", ie. your first meal of the day.
I typically eat my meals between noon and 8pm, and, in my experience, have found a notable level of fat loss by working out whilst in a fasted state (I work out first thing in the morning, around 6am). I know that there are both studies which speak of heightened insulin sensitivity from IF (a good thing), and other anecdotal testimonials that will support IF as well. How you personally react to it, though, is a "mileage may vary" kind of thing, as it can, as mentioned above, potentially lead to overeating. As long as you're getting your required calories in the day, it doesn't much matter when you consume them - the only common thought, however, is that if you're not going to eat until later in the day and work out whilst fasted, it may help to get some kind of BCAA supplement to prevent muscle breakdown.
Since going onto IF, my blood pressure is actually DOWN from what it was before, per my last physical, and my GP tells me that that I'm in "exemplary shape".
Don't let people convince you that something that clearly is working for you, isn't. Don't buy the rock.0 -
When I first started on here I never ate breakfast. I just pounded coffee for the first couple of hours of wakefulness. As I cut calories though, I found that I needed breakfast or I got hangry. Now I eat a big bowl of oatmeal with fruit just about every morning. It keeps me reasonable until about 1pm when I have lunch. I agree with everyone who said to eat when you want. I exercise at night now though which is why I think I'm so hungry in the morning.0
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It would seem the overall idea is that skipping breakfast won't hurt you as long as it doesn't lead you to overeat later. I would give it a try and see how you fair later in the day. Maybe try breakfast one week and chart your hunger and pay attention to your intake as the day progresses, then do the same the following week with no breakfast.
I have found that (for me) waiting until later in the day to eat has led to eating less in general. I don't seem to think much about food until I've already had some (most days...some days I'm starving at breakfast, so I eat). That's how it works for me, but everyone is different.
Your main focus should be on what works to keep you at a calorie deficit.0 -
ercarroll311 wrote: »Your main focus should be on what works to keep you at a calorie deficit.
This is whats important
I did IF for 3 year, only ate dinner, and my health was never better. The only reason I stopped my 20 hour fast a day was because I trained for a marathon on top of my lifting and was expending too many calories and couldn't fit all my calories in 4 hours. Now I still fast but only till lunch. So its basically what works for you to keep your calories in control
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Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »Not eating breakfast made be hard on your health, but it doesn't impact your weight.
oh really?
how so?
I have read that going without eating for extended periods of time can cause your blood pressure to rise.
Do you have a source for this?
I saw it here: forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2013/07/23/why-is-skipping-breakfast-so-bad-for-our-heart-health/
Thanks.Men who skipped breakfast were 27% more likely to experience heart attack or to die as the result of coronary heart disease. The men who skipped breakfast were more likely to be single, smokers, employed full-time, to drink more alcohol, were younger, and were less likely to be physically active than people who ate breakfast. Controlling for a slew of these and other risk factor for heart disease – like alcohol consumption, smoking history, body mass index, regular doctor visits, quality of diet, TV watching, activity level, and sleep habits – did reduce the link between skipping breakfast and heart disease, but didn’t obliterate it. The number of times per day the men ate wasn’t linked to heart risk.
I didn't read the study itself, but right off the bat, it seems like the high blood pressure may be more linked to the other factors and a stressful lifestyle than the actual breakfast part.
If you don't eat breakfast and live an otherwise healthy lifestyle, I don't see why it would be an issue. What about all the people who have improved their health and weight on programs like IF?
OK, but no cause and effect proven? I would think those that those men are more likely to be single because they smoke. Perhaps they don't eat breakfast because they smoke (cigarettes are an appetitie suppressant for some, right?). They might have been less active because they smoke and can't handle as much exercise.
Maybe this study just found a bunch of male smokers and found they are less likely to eat breakfast...0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »Not eating breakfast made be hard on your health, but it doesn't impact your weight.
oh really?
how so?
I have read that going without eating for extended periods of time can cause your blood pressure to rise.
Do you have a source for this?
I saw it here: forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2013/07/23/why-is-skipping-breakfast-so-bad-for-our-heart-health/
Thanks.Men who skipped breakfast were 27% more likely to experience heart attack or to die as the result of coronary heart disease. The men who skipped breakfast were more likely to be single, smokers, employed full-time, to drink more alcohol, were younger, and were less likely to be physically active than people who ate breakfast. Controlling for a slew of these and other risk factor for heart disease – like alcohol consumption, smoking history, body mass index, regular doctor visits, quality of diet, TV watching, activity level, and sleep habits – did reduce the link between skipping breakfast and heart disease, but didn’t obliterate it. The number of times per day the men ate wasn’t linked to heart risk.
I didn't read the study itself, but right off the bat, it seems like the high blood pressure may be more linked to the other factors and a stressful lifestyle than the actual breakfast part.
If you don't eat breakfast and live an otherwise healthy lifestyle, I don't see why it would be an issue. What about all the people who have improved their health and weight on programs like IF?
OK, but no cause and effect proven? I would think those that those men are more likely to be single because they smoke. Perhaps they don't eat breakfast because they smoke (cigarettes are an appetitie suppressant for some, right?). They might have been less active because they smoke and can't handle as much exercise.
Maybe this study just found a bunch of male smokers and found they are less likely to eat breakfast...
They probably also never wash their pants.
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Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »Not eating breakfast made be hard on your health, but it doesn't impact your weight.
oh really?
how so?
I have read that going without eating for extended periods of time can cause your blood pressure to rise.
Do you have a source for this?
I saw it here: forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2013/07/23/why-is-skipping-breakfast-so-bad-for-our-heart-health/
Thanks.Men who skipped breakfast were 27% more likely to experience heart attack or to die as the result of coronary heart disease. The men who skipped breakfast were more likely to be single, smokers, employed full-time, to drink more alcohol, were younger, and were less likely to be physically active than people who ate breakfast. Controlling for a slew of these and other risk factor for heart disease – like alcohol consumption, smoking history, body mass index, regular doctor visits, quality of diet, TV watching, activity level, and sleep habits – did reduce the link between skipping breakfast and heart disease, but didn’t obliterate it. The number of times per day the men ate wasn’t linked to heart risk.
I didn't read the study itself, but right off the bat, it seems like the high blood pressure may be more linked to the other factors and a stressful lifestyle than the actual breakfast part.
If you don't eat breakfast and live an otherwise healthy lifestyle, I don't see why it would be an issue. What about all the people who have improved their health and weight on programs like IF?
OK, but no cause and effect proven? I would think those that those men are more likely to be single because they smoke. Perhaps they don't eat breakfast because they smoke (cigarettes are an appetitie suppressant for some, right?). They might have been less active because they smoke and can't handle as much exercise.
Maybe this study just found a bunch of male smokers and found they are less likely to eat breakfast...
They probably also never wash their pants.
Why would they? Are these men not watching TV and smoking/drinking? It seems to me that this is not the type of man who wears pants except on special occasions anyway.
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