Pain in knees

Any tips or ideas how I can alleviate pain in my knees? It hurts at times when I go up the stairs, that sort of thing and does not happen all the time. I jog/strength train 4X a week. Am I doing too much or?

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  • SonyaCele
    SonyaCele Posts: 2,841 Member
    did you just start working out? it takes time to toughen up your joints. If not, maybe see a knee dr. Ice will help in the temporary .
  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 11,527 Member
    A lot of knee pain comes from either form or footwear. Make sure your form while lifting is good, and your shoes are in good condition for all that running.
  • gainthatmuscle
    gainthatmuscle Posts: 50 Member
    I agree with nossmf. it is your form or footwear. taking a joint supplement might help. make sure you are eating enough of the right foods like vegetables and fruits and drinking enough water.
  • cheshirecatastrophe
    cheshirecatastrophe Posts: 1,395 Member
    Where does it hurt? Behind the kneecap? Above the kneecap and sort of towards the outside of your thigh? Try Googling "runner's knee." Does that match the pain?

    "Overuse" knee problems are usually more to do with hip inflexibility and hip/glute weakness. But it's hard to say that's what you have with just "my knee hurts."
  • BramageOMG
    BramageOMG Posts: 319 Member
    When I first started "getting in shape" I did a lot of walking, treadmill, elliptical.. and finally running. First my knees killed me then my hip, then knees, with hip (Add in an elbow and shoulder too).. but after about 6 months, everything got stronger and I have had no issues (pain) since. I suspect it was just my bodies reaction to: WTF are you doing to me??!!!, It all = getting stronger, conditioning the muscles and ligaments.
  • mbaker566
    mbaker566 Posts: 11,233 Member
    BramageOMG wrote: »
    When I first started "getting in shape" I did a lot of walking, treadmill, elliptical.. and finally running. First my knees killed me then my hip, then knees, with hip (Add in an elbow and shoulder too).. but after about 6 months, everything got stronger and I have had no issues (pain) since. I suspect it was just my bodies reaction to: WTF are you doing to me??!!!, It all = getting stronger, conditioning the muscles and ligaments.

    yup, I have thus far found this to be true
  • jendiaz9732
    jendiaz9732 Posts: 285 Member
    SonyaCele wrote: »
    did you just start working out? it takes time to toughen up your joints. If not, maybe see a knee dr. Ice will help in the temporary .
    I've been working out for almost a year. But thanks I think I may set up an appointment :)
  • jendiaz9732
    jendiaz9732 Posts: 285 Member
    nossmf wrote: »
    A lot of knee pain comes from either form or footwear. Make sure your form while lifting is good, and your shoes are in good condition for all that running.

    Okay thanks a bunch. I will pay more attention to my form! And also on the foot wear, how long should I keep a pair before I purchase a new pair? I've been having mines for about year and a half; I mean they still look good to me :#

  • jendiaz9732
    jendiaz9732 Posts: 285 Member
    Where does it hurt? Behind the kneecap? Above the kneecap and sort of towards the outside of your thigh? Try Googling "runner's knee." Does that match the pain?

    "Overuse" knee problems are usually more to do with hip inflexibility and hip/glute weakness. But it's hard to say that's what you have with just "my knee hurts."

    It hurts above the knee cap. Only in that area though. Thank you :)

  • jendiaz9732
    jendiaz9732 Posts: 285 Member
    BramageOMG wrote: »
    When I first started "getting in shape" I did a lot of walking, treadmill, elliptical.. and finally running. First my knees killed me then my hip, then knees, with hip (Add in an elbow and shoulder too).. but after about 6 months, everything got stronger and I have had no issues (pain) since. I suspect it was just my bodies reaction to: WTF are you doing to me??!!!, It all = getting stronger, conditioning the muscles and ligaments.

    Thank you. :)

  • jendiaz9732
    jendiaz9732 Posts: 285 Member
    JarethG wrote: »
    Any tips or ideas how I can alleviate pain in my knees? It hurts at times when I go up the stairs, that sort of thing and does not happen all the time. I jog/strength train 4X a week. Am I doing too much or?

    rest em up a couple weeks and see what happens.

    pain going up and down stairs can be a few things, often though, your patella might not be tracking right.

    Rest them, like not work out?
  • indie357
    indie357 Posts: 5 Member
    I just started walking long distances last month and noticed horrible pain in my knees and then hips. I went and had my stride and feet looked at by a great running store here in my local town. I ended up buying the shoes they recommended and it has made a world of distance. If I had done that in the beginning I would be walking double what I am now. The pain instantly stopped with the new shoes. They are much more expensive but so worth it. He told me to replace them every 6 months. I also started out with running shoes which were the furthest thing I needed since I was walking long distances not running. I need more support and padding rather than lightness and flexibility.
  • karenkte
    karenkte Posts: 1 Member
    Hi...i just had this problem i thought was due to too much hot yoga
    I had mri scan and its arthritis
    Just take care when doing high impact exercise
    I have changed to aqua aerobics and my knee pain has eased soooo much
  • jendiaz9732
    jendiaz9732 Posts: 285 Member
    indie357 wrote: »
    I just started walking long distances last month and noticed horrible pain in my knees and then hips. I went and had my stride and feet looked at by a great running store here in my local town. I ended up buying the shoes they recommended and it has made a world of distance. If I had done that in the beginning I would be walking double what I am now. The pain instantly stopped with the new shoes. They are much more expensive but so worth it. He told me to replace them every 6 months. I also started out with running shoes which were the furthest thing I needed since I was walking long distances not running. I need more support and padding rather than lightness and flexibility.

    Thanks so much for that! Wow every six months! I've been doing it all wrong! I will definitely invest in some appropriate running shoes! I will keep you guys posted. I hate it because sometimes I won't jog due to it.
  • cheshirecatastrophe
    cheshirecatastrophe Posts: 1,395 Member
    edited June 2015
    Where does it hurt? Behind the kneecap? Above the kneecap and sort of towards the outside of your thigh? Try Googling "runner's knee." Does that match the pain?

    "Overuse" knee problems are usually more to do with hip inflexibility and hip/glute weakness. But it's hard to say that's what you have with just "my knee hurts."

    It hurts above the knee cap. Only in that area though. Thank you :)

    Above the kneecap might be illiotibial band syndrome (ITBS). That's a hip-related thing. Maybe Google some stretches for your IT band. (Do you have a foam roller?) But the advice to replace your shoes every 6 months/400-500 miles is a good general guideline for most people, too!
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,973 Member
    Sounds like patellar tendinitis and the most common reason is excessive use. So if you're exercising more than an hour a day, try cutting back a bit first to see if that helps.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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  • jendiaz9732
    jendiaz9732 Posts: 285 Member
    JarethG wrote: »
    JarethG wrote: »
    Any tips or ideas how I can alleviate pain in my knees? It hurts at times when I go up the stairs, that sort of thing and does not happen all the time. I jog/strength train 4X a week. Am I doing too much or?

    rest em up a couple weeks and see what happens.

    pain going up and down stairs can be a few things, often though, your patella might not be tracking right.

    Rest them, like not work out?

    like for serious.

    patellar tendinitis is a risk.

    Seeing a doctor is always a great move. Since they can like, totally check you out.

    Lol. K I'm going to see my doc. Thanks!
  • jendiaz9732
    jendiaz9732 Posts: 285 Member
    Tha
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Sounds like patellar tendinitis and the most common reason is excessive use. So if you're exercising more than an hour a day, try cutting back a bit first to see if that helps.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

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    Thank you I will cut back on my jogging :)
  • KrunchyMama
    KrunchyMama Posts: 420 Member
    I was just about to post about knee pain, so this thread is perfect timing. I hope it's ok that I post a question of my own?

    My knee pain feels like I have a stone tucked under my right knee cap, at the bottom. It is mostly noticeable with stairs, and just started today. I just got an elliptical last night, and have used it for a total of 10-15 minutes (my 3 and 5 year olds keep trying to climb on, so I haven't had a full session on it yet). May or may not be elliptical related, I'm not sure. I don't "work out" in a gym, but I'm active enough, with the last few weeks spent hauling sand and topsoil around my property. I'd book an appointment, but my doctor is booking in August now. Any suggestions for things I could google?
  • jendiaz9732
    jendiaz9732 Posts: 285 Member
    Of course you can! Hope you get to feeling better :)
  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 11,527 Member
    Getting back to the comment about form when exercising, when I added squats to my leg routine I developed some terribly painful knees, right behind the knee cap (top of knee cap, sorry KrunchyMama). On a whim, I tried squatting without shoes, and the pain disappeared like magic. As in, painful one set, remove shoes for next set, pain is gone. Poof. These days I keep my shoes on, but by shifting foot position to a wider stance the pain has remained away.
  • d08t
    d08t Posts: 43 Member
    Never do leg extensions. Ice daily. Use a foam roller and stretch after your workout.
  • Rayfaetroon60
    Rayfaetroon60 Posts: 1 Member
    I have that and was diagnose with early onset arthritis!
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,973 Member
    d08t wrote: »
    Never do leg extensions. Ice daily. Use a foam roller and stretch after your workout.
    Actually leg extensions are used exclusively in many knee rehab programs. Most knee issues happen for a couple of main reasons: incorrect form, incorrect footwear, overuse.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
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  • stephxo1
    stephxo1 Posts: 191 Member
    Also try adding some sort of joint supplement to your diary. I take Omega 3-6-9 as well as Glucosamine, still get the odd niggle in my knees after a heavy squat session but only lasts for a day then disappears. Protect those joints! :)
  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,446 Member
    edited June 2015
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    d08t wrote: »
    Never do leg extensions. Ice daily. Use a foam roller and stretch after your workout.
    Actually leg extensions are used exclusively in many knee rehab programs. Most knee issues happen for a couple of main reasons: incorrect form, incorrect footwear, overuse.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

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    Everything I've read is anti leg-extension, eg

    http://www.menshealth.com/mhlists/avoid_lifting_injuries/The_Seated_Leg_Extension.php
    http://www.t-nation.com/article/performance_training/the_truth_about_leg_extensions&cr=

    It's also just a weird, seemingly unnatural movement to load, don't you think? Like when do we do that?
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Sounds like patellar tendinitis and the most common reason is excessive use. So if you're exercising more than an hour a day, try cutting back a bit first to see if that helps.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png

    Yeah it does sound like patellar tendinopathy. I had pain there a bit ago, came away with that diagnosis.
  • Francine_rivas
    Francine_rivas Posts: 77 Member
    Any tips or ideas how I can alleviate pain in my knees? It hurts at times when I go up the stairs, that sort of thing and does not happen all the time. I jog/strength train 4X a week. Am I doing too much or?

    Do you stretch after working out? If not start doing that! Also when do you strength train are you doing legs on the same day as running. Do legs only once a week and don't do it the same day as running. And don't forget to rest. Run every other day. Foam rolling helps prevent knee pain. For now so you don't mess your knees up more I would stop for a week on running and just do yoga and focus just on arms and abs. Maybe you were overdoing it and just need a good break. Ice your knee too. If it hurts for 3 weeks or more I'd see a physical therapist.
  • slideaway1
    slideaway1 Posts: 1,006 Member
    Ice them to reduce joint swelling.
  • coreyreichle
    coreyreichle Posts: 1,031 Member
    nossmf wrote: »
    A lot of knee pain comes from either form or footwear. Make sure your form while lifting is good, and your shoes are in good condition for all that running.

    Okay thanks a bunch. I will pay more attention to my form! And also on the foot wear, how long should I keep a pair before I purchase a new pair? I've been having mines for about year and a half; I mean they still look good to me :#

    Rule of thumb is 600 miles for shoes. I generally buy a new pair once a year, which is about 1000 miles or so. ymmv.
  • jendiaz9732
    jendiaz9732 Posts: 285 Member
    Any tips or ideas how I can alleviate pain in my knees? It hurts at times when I go up the stairs, that sort of thing and does not happen all the time. I jog/strength train 4X a week. Am I doing too much or?

    Do you stretch after working out? If not start doing that! Also when do you strength train are you doing legs on the same day as running. Do legs only once a week and don't do it the same day as running. And don't forget to rest. Run every other day. Foam rolling helps prevent knee pain. For now so you don't mess your knees up more I would stop for a week on running and just do yoga and focus just on arms and abs. Maybe you were overdoing it and just need a good break. Ice your knee too. If it hurts for 3 weeks or more I'd see a physical therapist.

    I don't stretch after workout but I am definitely going to start. As well as cut back on lower body, and try the foam rolling, have never done that. I was squatting at grocery store last night and felt the pain pretty intense :(:/ Thank you