Gain 5-8 lbs every time I up my workouts

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  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    Rworthy wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Rworthy wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    Rworthy wrote: »
    FYI...I HAVE been logging consistently for the past few months. This last few weeks has been hectic so yes I havent been. I had over 220 day streai before that. Nothing has changed. Workouts same. Food same. I jist havent logged in on mfp.

    As for Fitbit being inaccurate. .is there proof of this? I used adidas mycoach chest strap and pedometer before i got fitbit...same results. So i dont think its crap. Anyway. .

    Some of you have been very helpful. Ill just focus on that. I will log consistently for 2 weeks and check back in. Thank you.

    True...

    So I looked back in April (just picked a random month) and you were logging consistently then.

    However...

    I would guess that your Fitbit adjustments are way off. There was one day you "gained" 1200+ calories as a fitbit adjustment. That would have to be a pretty aggressive day of activity to increase your burn that much.

    Get back on the consistent logging train, aim to eat back maybe 1/2 of what your fitbit adjustment is instead of 100%, and try that for a month. Hopefully you'll see better results.
    Yes! What I say is true!!! Haha These forums are rough...

    I DO workout heavy at times...that one day included a 3 mile walk to a park. 65 minute hot yoga class level 2...then caring for a 2 yo...it adds up. I am very strong. I work hard. And im big.

    Blood pressure nearly perfect. Heart rate resting bt 48 and 52. Aside from weight im 100% healthy. This is why I struggle with the scale.

    So a 3 mile walk at a decent intensity is probably around 250 cals
    60 mins yoga ? Another 250

    Your HRM would go up with heat...this does not equate to calorie burn

    Your running around after a 2 year old covered in your activity level

    I think you have issues with your activity / exercise logging which is completely throwing your ability to lose weight out

    HOT YOGA burns 600-900 calories per hour. These are intense workouts. I live in colorado. They dont play around with yoga...

    Not a chance.

  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Rworthy wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    Rworthy wrote: »
    FYI...I HAVE been logging consistently for the past few months. This last few weeks has been hectic so yes I havent been. I had over 220 day streai before that. Nothing has changed. Workouts same. Food same. I jist havent logged in on mfp.

    As for Fitbit being inaccurate. .is there proof of this? I used adidas mycoach chest strap and pedometer before i got fitbit...same results. So i dont think its crap. Anyway. .

    Some of you have been very helpful. Ill just focus on that. I will log consistently for 2 weeks and check back in. Thank you.

    True...

    So I looked back in April (just picked a random month) and you were logging consistently then.

    However...

    I would guess that your Fitbit adjustments are way off. There was one day you "gained" 1200+ calories as a fitbit adjustment. That would have to be a pretty aggressive day of activity to increase your burn that much.

    Get back on the consistent logging train, aim to eat back maybe 1/2 of what your fitbit adjustment is instead of 100%, and try that for a month. Hopefully you'll see better results.
    Yes! What I say is true!!! Haha These forums are rough...

    I DO workout heavy at times...that one day included a 3 mile walk to a park. 65 minute hot yoga class level 2...then caring for a 2 yo...it adds up. I am very strong. I work hard. And im big.

    Blood pressure nearly perfect. Heart rate resting bt 48 and 52. Aside from weight im 100% healthy. This is why I struggle with the scale.

    So a 3 mile walk at a decent intensity is probably around 250 cals
    60 mins yoga ? Another 250

    Your HRM would go up with heat...this does not equate to calorie burn

    Your running around after a 2 year old covered in your activity level

    I think you have issues with your activity / exercise logging which is completely throwing your ability to lose weight out

    This is spot on. Your calorie burns are obviously inflated. Adjust those, tighten up your logging, profit.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,300 Member
    edited July 2015
    http://www.cpr.org/news/story/why-hot-yoga-might-not-burn-many-calories-you-thought

    Note that increased heart rate due to a hot room, the amount of sweating, or perceived exertion do NOT equal more calories burned.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    A study on Bikram... Hopefully that will put the inflated burn number to rest...
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25141359
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    @Rworthy I noticed that my weight loss stalled when I started working out seriously. I had a good think about what I wanted and I want health and strength more than I want the scale to go down. So I chose exercise over the scale. Perhaps weigh yourself no more than once a week, weigh your food more often, and watch your trend line on something like weightgrapher. Don't look for any significant loss in less than a month (if your monthly cycle is interfering as well).
  • lemonsnowdrop
    lemonsnowdrop Posts: 1,298 Member
    Heat has nothing to do with calorie burns. You may sweat out some water, but that's all.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Rworthy wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Rworthy wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    Rworthy wrote: »
    FYI...I HAVE been logging consistently for the past few months. This last few weeks has been hectic so yes I havent been. I had over 220 day streai before that. Nothing has changed. Workouts same. Food same. I jist havent logged in on mfp.

    As for Fitbit being inaccurate. .is there proof of this? I used adidas mycoach chest strap and pedometer before i got fitbit...same results. So i dont think its crap. Anyway. .

    Some of you have been very helpful. Ill just focus on that. I will log consistently for 2 weeks and check back in. Thank you.

    True...

    So I looked back in April (just picked a random month) and you were logging consistently then.

    However...

    I would guess that your Fitbit adjustments are way off. There was one day you "gained" 1200+ calories as a fitbit adjustment. That would have to be a pretty aggressive day of activity to increase your burn that much.

    Get back on the consistent logging train, aim to eat back maybe 1/2 of what your fitbit adjustment is instead of 100%, and try that for a month. Hopefully you'll see better results.
    Yes! What I say is true!!! Haha These forums are rough...

    I DO workout heavy at times...that one day included a 3 mile walk to a park. 65 minute hot yoga class level 2...then caring for a 2 yo...it adds up. I am very strong. I work hard. And im big.

    Blood pressure nearly perfect. Heart rate resting bt 48 and 52. Aside from weight im 100% healthy. This is why I struggle with the scale.

    So a 3 mile walk at a decent intensity is probably around 250 cals
    60 mins yoga ? Another 250

    Your HRM would go up with heat...this does not equate to calorie burn

    Your running around after a 2 year old covered in your activity level

    I think you have issues with your activity / exercise logging which is completely throwing your ability to lose weight out

    HOT YOGA burns 600-900 calories per hour. These are intense workouts. I live in colorado. They dont play around with yoga...

    No it doesn't

    http://www.cpr.org/news/story/why-hot-yoga-might-not-burn-many-calories-you-thought

    This is your problem

    And now you can adjust and lose the weight you want to

    Yay
  • Rworthy
    Rworthy Posts: 271 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Rworthy wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    Rworthy wrote: »
    FYI...I HAVE been logging consistently for the past few months. This last few weeks has been hectic so yes I havent been. I had over 220 day streai before that. Nothing has changed. Workouts same. Food same. I jist havent logged in on mfp.

    As for Fitbit being inaccurate. .is there proof of this? I used adidas mycoach chest strap and pedometer before i got fitbit...same results. So i dont think its crap. Anyway. .

    Some of you have been very helpful. Ill just focus on that. I will log consistently for 2 weeks and check back in. Thank you.

    True...

    So I looked back in April (just picked a random month) and you were logging consistently then.

    However...

    I would guess that your Fitbit adjustments are way off. There was one day you "gained" 1200+ calories as a fitbit adjustment. That would have to be a pretty aggressive day of activity to increase your burn that much.

    Get back on the consistent logging train, aim to eat back maybe 1/2 of what your fitbit adjustment is instead of 100%, and try that for a month. Hopefully you'll see better results.
    Yes! What I say is true!!! Haha These forums are rough...

    I DO workout heavy at times...that one day included a 3 mile walk to a park. 65 minute hot yoga class level 2...then caring for a 2 yo...it adds up. I am very strong. I work hard. And im big.

    Blood pressure nearly perfect. Heart rate resting bt 48 and 52. Aside from weight im 100% healthy. This is why I struggle with the scale.

    So a 3 mile walk at a decent intensity is probably around 250 cals
    60 mins yoga ? Another 250

    Your HRM would go up with heat...this does not equate to calorie burn

    Your running around after a 2 year old covered in your activity level

    I think you have issues with your activity / exercise logging which is completely throwing your ability to lose weight out

    This is spot on. Your calorie burns are obviously inflated. Adjust those, tighten up your logging, profit.

    You might want to read up on hr monitors and accuracy. As far as im concerned theyre accurate...theres no need to split hairs anyway I dont eat my exercise cals back.


    The day it logged 1200 exercise calories was a 6 mile hike with 900 ft elevation gain. 3 hours. Carrying 40 pound pack. So yeah...
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    edited July 2015
    Rworthy wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Rworthy wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    Rworthy wrote: »
    FYI...I HAVE been logging consistently for the past few months. This last few weeks has been hectic so yes I havent been. I had over 220 day streai before that. Nothing has changed. Workouts same. Food same. I jist havent logged in on mfp.

    As for Fitbit being inaccurate. .is there proof of this? I used adidas mycoach chest strap and pedometer before i got fitbit...same results. So i dont think its crap. Anyway. .

    Some of you have been very helpful. Ill just focus on that. I will log consistently for 2 weeks and check back in. Thank you.

    True...

    So I looked back in April (just picked a random month) and you were logging consistently then.

    However...

    I would guess that your Fitbit adjustments are way off. There was one day you "gained" 1200+ calories as a fitbit adjustment. That would have to be a pretty aggressive day of activity to increase your burn that much.

    Get back on the consistent logging train, aim to eat back maybe 1/2 of what your fitbit adjustment is instead of 100%, and try that for a month. Hopefully you'll see better results.
    Yes! What I say is true!!! Haha These forums are rough...

    I DO workout heavy at times...that one day included a 3 mile walk to a park. 65 minute hot yoga class level 2...then caring for a 2 yo...it adds up. I am very strong. I work hard. And im big.

    Blood pressure nearly perfect. Heart rate resting bt 48 and 52. Aside from weight im 100% healthy. This is why I struggle with the scale.

    So a 3 mile walk at a decent intensity is probably around 250 cals
    60 mins yoga ? Another 250

    Your HRM would go up with heat...this does not equate to calorie burn

    Your running around after a 2 year old covered in your activity level

    I think you have issues with your activity / exercise logging which is completely throwing your ability to lose weight out

    This is spot on. Your calorie burns are obviously inflated. Adjust those, tighten up your logging, profit.

    You might want to read up on hr monitors and accuracy. As far as im concerned theyre accurate...theres no need to split hairs anyway I dont eat my exercise cals back.


    The day it logged 1200 exercise calories was a 6 mile hike with 900 ft elevation gain. 3 hours. Carrying 40 pound pack. So yeah...

    Ok

    But you have the proof of your body that they aren't

    Because if it was you would have lost weight

    An HRM is only good for monitoring calorie burn during steady state cardio ...full stop !

    You can accept that or not

    I know it stinks and it's hard but unfortunately it's true

    6 miles ...is around 500-600 calories
  • Rworthy
    Rworthy Posts: 271 Member
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    http://www.cpr.org/news/story/why-hot-yoga-might-not-burn-many-calories-you-thought

    Note that increased heart rate due to a hot room, the amount of sweating, or perceived exertion do NOT equal more calories burned.

    Keep in mind Im over 200 pounds...so i wouldnt burn the same amount as a 100 pound test subject...heart rate increase is what literally creates energy which is measured in calories. It has nothing to do with a hot room.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    So let me ask you

    Why do YOU think you haven't lost weight over the last year?
  • NotGnarly
    NotGnarly Posts: 137 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    Here is a good guide to estimate your body fat percentage.

    At 208lbs, it is nearly impossible to be 25% unless you are really, really tall. Mamabird wasn't being rude at all.

    body-fat-percentage-women.jpg
    Oh dang those pics are depressing but pretty accurate. I weighed in at 207 this morning and looking at these pics I'm definitely around 40-45% bodyfat. I agree with your above statement. Looking at 25% would be dang hard to do at this weight.
  • Rworthy
    Rworthy Posts: 271 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    So let me ask you

    Why do YOU think you haven't lost weight over the last year?

    Lol. Maybe you could read my responses and see why.

    PS I Have lost 20 pounds in the last year. Im only seeing results go up and down for a few months. And every time I up workouts. Its pretty simple.
  • DeguelloTex
    DeguelloTex Posts: 6,652 Member
    Rworthy wrote: »
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    http://www.cpr.org/news/story/why-hot-yoga-might-not-burn-many-calories-you-thought

    Note that increased heart rate due to a hot room, the amount of sweating, or perceived exertion do NOT equal more calories burned.

    Keep in mind Im over 200 pounds...so i wouldnt burn the same amount as a 100 pound test subject...heart rate increase is what literally creates energy which is measured in calories. It has nothing to do with a hot room.
    I was over 300 and those burns still wouldn't have made sense.

  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Rworthy wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    So let me ask you

    Why do YOU think you haven't lost weight over the last year?

    Lol. Maybe you could read my responses and see why.

    PS I Have lost 20 pounds in the last year. Im only seeing results go up and down for a few months. And every time I up workouts. Its pretty simple.

    Your responses confirm that you aren't logging food regularly and are massively overestimating calorie burns

    I know why that results in lack of weight loss but it seems you don't

    So I'm wondering what you think the cause is if you still believe you have a TDEE of 3500 and yet the weight hasn't fallen off you
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    OP, why would you come in here and ask a question and then get defensive when people tell you the issues? Makes no sense. You seem to think HRMs are accurate for everything and that HR directly reflects calories burns. Both of those statements are factually wrong.

    You seem to get defensive, but people are only trying to help you figure out the issues. If you have it all figured out, no need to have this thread I suppose.
  • Rworthy
    Rworthy Posts: 271 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Rworthy wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    So let me ask you

    Why do YOU think you haven't lost weight over the last year?

    Lol. Maybe you could read my responses and see why.

    PS I Have lost 20 pounds in the last year. Im only seeing results go up and down for a few months. And every time I up workouts. Its pretty simple.

    Your responses confirm that you aren't logging food regularly and are massively overestimating calorie burns

    I know why that results in lack of weight loss but it seems you don't

    So I'm wondering what you think the cause is if you still believe you have a TDEE of 3500 and yet the weight hasn't fallen off you
    Did I say I had a DAILY TDEE OF 3600? No. 2600 maybe. 1200 was exercise calories for that one day. I never said I burn 1200 calories daily with workouts. If that were true I wouldn't be on here right now talking to you :-)
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    Rworthy wrote: »
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    http://www.cpr.org/news/story/why-hot-yoga-might-not-burn-many-calories-you-thought

    Note that increased heart rate due to a hot room, the amount of sweating, or perceived exertion do NOT equal more calories burned.

    Keep in mind Im over 200 pounds...so i wouldnt burn the same amount as a 100 pound test subject...heart rate increase is what literally creates energy which is measured in calories. It has nothing to do with a hot room.

    Okay, but the study I posted had men over 200lbs. You do not burn more than a man and the max was 476 calories for a 90 minute session. You are under the assumption that you burn 4-5 times that?
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    If it helps I have a good musculature (progressive resistance training) at 5'8 ..160lbs, 23-24% BF, active lifestyle and around 3 hours intense workouts a week ...my TDEE is around 2300 give or take 100
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,300 Member
    Rworthy wrote: »
    Keep in mind Im over 200 pounds...so i wouldnt burn the same amount as a 100 pound test subject...heart rate increase is what literally creates energy which is measured in calories. It has nothing to do with a hot room.

    50% agreement.
    You DO burn more than a 100lb test subject; absolutely.

    Heart rate is a proxy measure to estimate your oxygen intake.

    http://www.bodymedia.com/site/docs/papers/hr-ee-applications.pdf
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    I got really cross the first time someone told me I couldn't rely on my HRM for anything but steady state cardio and refused to believe him

    He was right though
  • peleroja
    peleroja Posts: 3,979 Member
    OP, I think you really need to take a step back and think about everything you've said on this thread. First, at your gender, height, and weight and with your stated activity...it is not mostly muscle. I don't know how to say that gently, but it isn't. Unless you are a super, super elite, Olympian powerlifter or something, you are not in a healthy body fat range at 200lb and 5'7". If you need proof of that, you need to book hydrostatic weighing or a DEXA scan and have an accurate reading done. Not calipers at the gym or your bathroom scale at home.

    Along those lines, you are definitely overestimating your exercise burns, as several people (including men larger than you) have stated already. I know this for sure because you're not losing weight and your calculations would indicate that you should be.

    If you combine a more realistic picture of calories burned through exercise with very accurate weighing and measuring of EVERYTHING you put in your body (including drinks, cooking oil, and condiments, and weighing all solid food and measuring all liquid), you will lose weight with a reasonable goal deficit. Honestly.

    Finally, all these trainers and stuff saying things? They might know something, but they might not, and taking this stuff as gospel is a really bad idea because trainers and "nutritionists" can vary widely in knowledge and experience because there's no regulation of the industry. If you want to talk to a professional, go see a registered dietician, someone with a degree in the biology of nutrition's effect on the human body.
  • TheVirgoddess
    TheVirgoddess Posts: 4,535 Member
    Rworthy wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    So let me ask you

    Why do YOU think you haven't lost weight over the last year?

    Lol. Maybe you could read my responses and see why.

    PS I Have lost 20 pounds in the last year. Im only seeing results go up and down for a few months. And every time I up workouts. Its pretty simple.

    You asked for help - people offer it to you, then you argue why they're wrong.

    I used to do this, too.

    But then I realized that people were trying to help me, so I took a step back and I listened. And I lost 83 pounds.

    So maybe you could give that a try - just stepping back and listening and realizing that when people take time to read your posts and respond, they are doing so in an attempt to help you reach your goals.

    Good luck.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    Rworthy wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Rworthy wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    Rworthy wrote: »
    FYI...I HAVE been logging consistently for the past few months. This last few weeks has been hectic so yes I havent been. I had over 220 day streai before that. Nothing has changed. Workouts same. Food same. I jist havent logged in on mfp.

    As for Fitbit being inaccurate. .is there proof of this? I used adidas mycoach chest strap and pedometer before i got fitbit...same results. So i dont think its crap. Anyway. .

    Some of you have been very helpful. Ill just focus on that. I will log consistently for 2 weeks and check back in. Thank you.

    True...

    So I looked back in April (just picked a random month) and you were logging consistently then.

    However...

    I would guess that your Fitbit adjustments are way off. There was one day you "gained" 1200+ calories as a fitbit adjustment. That would have to be a pretty aggressive day of activity to increase your burn that much.

    Get back on the consistent logging train, aim to eat back maybe 1/2 of what your fitbit adjustment is instead of 100%, and try that for a month. Hopefully you'll see better results.
    Yes! What I say is true!!! Haha These forums are rough...

    I DO workout heavy at times...that one day included a 3 mile walk to a park. 65 minute hot yoga class level 2...then caring for a 2 yo...it adds up. I am very strong. I work hard. And im big.

    Blood pressure nearly perfect. Heart rate resting bt 48 and 52. Aside from weight im 100% healthy. This is why I struggle with the scale.

    So a 3 mile walk at a decent intensity is probably around 250 cals
    60 mins yoga ? Another 250

    Your HRM would go up with heat...this does not equate to calorie burn

    Your running around after a 2 year old covered in your activity level

    I think you have issues with your activity / exercise logging which is completely throwing your ability to lose weight out

    This is spot on. Your calorie burns are obviously inflated. Adjust those, tighten up your logging, profit.

    You might want to read up on hr monitors and accuracy. As far as im concerned theyre accurate...theres no need to split hairs anyway I dont eat my exercise cals back.


    The day it logged 1200 exercise calories was a 6 mile hike with 900 ft elevation gain. 3 hours. Carrying 40 pound pack. So yeah...
    Actually, you should follow your own advice, the reason Rabbit was telling you it is inaccurate for hot yoga is because she actually has read how they work.
    Simply put, a heart rate monitor's calculation has huge assumptions about how your heart rate is tied to your oxygen intake because your oxygen intake is very closely linked to your energy burn.
    Being in hot conditions causes your heart to beat faster not to transfer more oxygen, but to cool your body down.
  • Ninkyou
    Ninkyou Posts: 6,666 Member
    OP, I looked through your diary for all of June and July. I counted 12 Days of incomplete logging and 15 Days of NO logging at all. I know you said previously you logged consistently, but I mean, even if it's been crazy busy for you, logging takes literally a handful of minutes.

    Also, I see you don't use a food scale. Perhaps you should invest in one? Because looking at your diary, you're probably eating more than you think and wiping whatever deficit you have, away.

    As for the weight gain everytime you exercise, that's to be expected. Your muscles will retain water for repair. But I have to wonder how often you're "upping" your exercise? and by how much? Are you going long stretches without exercise or are you exercising consistently every week?
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    The ones pointing out that lack of weight loss indicates lack of caloric deficit were especially helpful.
    Yep, I agree. Any of us eat too much, we gain weight. It's science and none of us are special snowflakes. :)
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    Rworthy wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Rworthy wrote: »
    ceoverturf wrote: »
    Rworthy wrote: »
    FYI...I HAVE been logging consistently for the past few months. This last few weeks has been hectic so yes I havent been. I had over 220 day streai before that. Nothing has changed. Workouts same. Food same. I jist havent logged in on mfp.

    As for Fitbit being inaccurate. .is there proof of this? I used adidas mycoach chest strap and pedometer before i got fitbit...same results. So i dont think its crap. Anyway. .

    Some of you have been very helpful. Ill just focus on that. I will log consistently for 2 weeks and check back in. Thank you.

    True...

    So I looked back in April (just picked a random month) and you were logging consistently then.

    However...

    I would guess that your Fitbit adjustments are way off. There was one day you "gained" 1200+ calories as a fitbit adjustment. That would have to be a pretty aggressive day of activity to increase your burn that much.

    Get back on the consistent logging train, aim to eat back maybe 1/2 of what your fitbit adjustment is instead of 100%, and try that for a month. Hopefully you'll see better results.
    Yes! What I say is true!!! Haha These forums are rough...

    I DO workout heavy at times...that one day included a 3 mile walk to a park. 65 minute hot yoga class level 2...then caring for a 2 yo...it adds up. I am very strong. I work hard. And im big.

    Blood pressure nearly perfect. Heart rate resting bt 48 and 52. Aside from weight im 100% healthy. This is why I struggle with the scale.

    So a 3 mile walk at a decent intensity is probably around 250 cals
    60 mins yoga ? Another 250

    Your HRM would go up with heat...this does not equate to calorie burn

    Your running around after a 2 year old covered in your activity level

    I think you have issues with your activity / exercise logging which is completely throwing your ability to lose weight out

    HOT YOGA burns 600-900 calories per hour. These are intense workouts. I live in colorado. They dont play around with yoga...

    It does not. Yoga is included in your activity level, not as additional exercise.
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