Should I Reduce my Deficit?

RedRaven49
RedRaven49 Posts: 52 Member
edited November 21 in Health and Weight Loss
Hi, I'm a 5ft 20 yo female currently weighing in at 88.5kg. my BMR is 1684 and TDEE 2021.

I have MFP set to sedentary (as my exercise levels fluctuate day to day) and I input the exercise I do. So MFP has given me a baseline of 1200 and exercise usually lifts it to around 1600 or so. So I find myself eating between 1600 and 1200 cals a day. I'm generally fine getting by on this but I have needed to start taking iron supplements and my low blood pressure is starting to cause some problems. I feel like it's probably sustainable enough but am worried about the nutritional impact on my health long term because it's a 40-20% deficit. They say you should go to your doctor if you're eating at 25% deficit or more. So should I up my allowance to fit this, so I don't go past a 25% deficit?

I have been losing at a rate of 4-5lbs a month, in line with the greater deficit.

(If you look at my diary, ignore Monday and Tuesday of this week. I was with my parents and pigged out. They're not in line with the rest of the last few weeks.)

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  • Ninkyou
    Ninkyou Posts: 6,666 Member
    If it were me I'd probably set it to no more than 20%.

    Have you been to your doctor at all? If not, perhaps you should just so you're on the right page. Get an updated blood panel and all that.

    When I first started I went to my GP to get an updated blood panel and to say basically, "Look, this is what I'm doing, this is what I'm planning and I want to stay on track, etc etc". Then I had repeat panels 6 months later to see how things were going and my GP was quite pleased with my results.
  • maxit
    maxit Posts: 880 Member
    I couldn't see your diary, Red, but if I were you I would be eating around 1800 c a day and paying extra attention to the nutritional quality of food (vitamins, minerals as well as protein, fat and fiber). Hopefully, you are consulting with your medical provider about the low blood pressure and iron deficiency. It is almost impossible for a menstruating woman to get sufficient iron from diet alone, never mind when one is eating at a deficit.
  • RedRaven49
    RedRaven49 Posts: 52 Member
    I haven't been to my doctor, but will definitely do that as soon as possible.
    maxit, I've changed my diary settings now to public, it was on friends only, sorry about that. You should be able to see it now.
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
    I feel like a loss of a lb a week is a perfectly acceptable rate of loss, at least to start. I'd run it by your doctor but if you are feeling fine and okay with things, I'd be hesitant to change. In all actuality you are probably eating a bit more then you think anyways (almost all of us are). If your recovery starts to suffer, then you might consider increasing calories a bit.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,254 Member
    edited July 2015
    The general MFP advice is to lose up to 0.5lbs per week per 25lbs you want to lose.
    I usually modify that: to 0.5lbs per 25lbs you are above the bottom of your healthy BMI weight range.

    One reason being that a person who has more fat can afford to lose weight much faster than a person who has less fat. Another being that someone's goal weight may be in the obese or overweight range for them, in which case they don't need to slow down their weight loss the same way that a person who is trying to lose weight within their normal weight zone has to.

    An alternative to the above is to consider that in general it is OK to lose weight at a rate of up to 0.7% of your bodyweight a week. In fact, for obese people that % goes up to 1% and even 1.5%

    None of the above addresses compliance. It always makes sense to lose slower as opposed to giving up.

    None of the above makes any statement about specific individuals. They are all statements that apply to the population "in general".

    So, IN GENERAL, an individual with a BMI >35 can afford to lose 0.7% to 1% of their bodyweight a week without too many problems, assuming they can safely and consistently generate the required caloric deficit, and assuming for MFP, that their true net calories don't drop below 1200 for women and 1500 for men.

    In addition to all the above, many TDEE sites advocate an even slower rate of weight loss, usually denoted as -20% off TDEE.

    As you've noticed, with the exception of very active obese people, a 20% cut off TDEE will generally result in a slower rate of weight loss than most of the limits I've discussed above.

    There is risk and potential for damage in everything we do. You have to balance that against the benefit you seek. Though, I would like to unequivocally state that most of the time the extra benefit of losing weight a little bit faster is marginal for a multitude of reasons.

    But, it also sounds like you have specific concerns. Things that, for example, you are addressing with iron supplements. Low blood pressure, etc. So why not discuss your rate of weight loss with your Dr. in view of associated health concerns?

    (multitude of reasons: what is the point of risking compliance, muscle mass, and health, to reach a "goal" weight faster, when the real "goal" should be maintaining the weight loss for the longest possible length of time)
  • RedRaven49
    RedRaven49 Posts: 52 Member
    I wasn't prescribed the suppliments - MFP showed I was getting about 2mg daily and I was feeling the things that iron deficiency causes, so I bought iron suppliments of my own accord. I will however take no board what you're saying. Potentially healthy enough to carry on this way until I get to a lower weight. Will check with doctor soon.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,254 Member
    edited July 2015
    RedRaven49 wrote: »
    I wasn't prescribed the suppliments - MFP showed I was getting about 2mg daily and I was feeling the things that iron deficiency causes, so I bought iron suppliments of my own accord. I will however take no board what you're saying. Potentially healthy enough to carry on this way until I get to a lower weight. Will check with doctor soon.

    In re-reading my post it sounds like I am encouraging a cut that is > 25% off of TDEE.

    I am not an advocate of that

    I usually say that the most important thing is compliance: maintaining the deficit for a long enough time to reach goal.

    And when you start measuring time to goal in months, or in many cases years, I don't really think it is worthwhile to eat at 1200 calories (like many women do on MFP) to reach goal weight in 9 months when you could reach goal weight in 12 months by eating 1600 calories a day.

    Furthermore I am NOT an advocate of dropping to minimum calories right away, especially for people who have a long way to go.

    One rule of thumb that *I* like to use is to calculate maintenance calories at goal weight at the lightly active and active levels.

    Ideally I want to achieve all my weight loss while eating at least the first and not much more than the second on a consistent basis.

    The hidden variable being that you will probably be able to increase exercise calories as you lose weight and your power ratio changes.
  • Bshmerlie
    Bshmerlie Posts: 1,026 Member
    You weigh 200 pounds and you're losing 4-5 pounds a month....that should be a perfectly acceptable weight loss plan. If you are experiencing low blood pressure issues or know for sure that you are low in iron I woud see a doctor as there may be something else going on.
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