Food Diary for Men
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LOL wut? Pretty sure I've never used anything specific to a man when making food. I'm never eating any of your cooking.SoLongAndThanksForAllTheFish wrote: »
, have more in common with guy's effort into putting a meal together than women.DisneyDude85 wrote: »MFP gave me a goal of 1640, but usually eat more than that due to exercise. However, my meal planning helps me stay in that 1640 range on days that I don't exercise, and I am never full. I'm 5'7" 259lb sedentary (office job) with a goal weight of 160 (tip top of the "healthy" bmi chart for my height).
And for this reason is why I wanted men to give me their input, ladies. All of your points are valid but comparing another man with my goals and what we eat and their progress just motivates me more. I'm 5'10, 247lb....I have an office job with a true goal weight of 200lbs. Nothing personal ladies, this is your forum, no doubt about it. But please, picking on us males, being the minority on this site, is overboard just a tad
Also, as far as I've seen, 90+% of posts by women asking for only women to respond are about periods, which is probably honestly more about protecting men's delicate sensibilities than it is about even the worry of mansplaining.0 -
As far as male or female for diet or exercise?
I like women workout partners. Women are much more fun to be around and usually more dedicated.
I think we are different obviously but can learn from each other if we see each other as equals.
So to the OP point....
I have lost net 125
Lbs in a year and a half, with an office job, and added 15 lbs or so of muscle.
My best trainer was a woman. A smoking hot woman that nails her diet helped me a great deal with cutting out useless calories. She looks great for a reason... Hard work.
Be on the team. The team is men and women helping each other.
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UltimateRBF wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »You'll probably have a better idea about your progress after a month or so. Not to be overly crude, but I can experience 1 lb loss in a day depending on how much fiber I have.
1630 kcal/day is a bit low for a man of your age, especially if you're at all active. Again, see what the numbers are like over time, but aggressive deficits can offer problems in the long term.
As far as meals go, what do you like eating? Some men like steak and potatoes, and some like grilled chicken and steamed vegetables. I like most anything that doesn't have mushrooms or olives in it.
I like steak and potatoes, chicken and steamed veggies, italian foods, Jamaican food, American food, Asian cuisine mostly. I lost a ton of weight not recorded on MFP. 1630 is what MFP recommended for a 2/lb a week weight loss. It's an adjustment but nothing I haven't done before. Last year u significantly cut my cals and got down to the low 230s from 270 within 4-5 months. I picked up 12-15lbs but luckily, not all fat. I do 80-100 push ups a night, average 8k steps a day, and still lift and do cardio at the gym 3 days a week. I gained due to my love for cheese and lots of it since this January. However, I still fit the same clothes just fine but I want to be down to 220 or less.
Do you think that is significant in any way?
Do you think it's not?
It tells me that he doesn't move much. That is kind of counter to his implication that he has gained muscle from working out. 3 day a week at the gym isn't very impressive either.
Good thing weight loss is easier for men...
Why do you feel 8k steps isn't moving much? Why do you feel 3 days/week at the gym isn't very impressive? Does it need to be impressive?
I am curious where you're basing these statements from.
I don't do it to impress anybody. You are way off base and insulting. I was 325 in 2011 and my not do impressive 3 days a week at the gym with good eating habits got me under 250 with no trainer, just raw willpower. This site is supposed to encourage people, not undermine. And last the last person said, where are you basing your statements?
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UltimateRBF wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »You'll probably have a better idea about your progress after a month or so. Not to be overly crude, but I can experience 1 lb loss in a day depending on how much fiber I have.
1630 kcal/day is a bit low for a man of your age, especially if you're at all active. Again, see what the numbers are like over time, but aggressive deficits can offer problems in the long term.
As far as meals go, what do you like eating? Some men like steak and potatoes, and some like grilled chicken and steamed vegetables. I like most anything that doesn't have mushrooms or olives in it.
I like steak and potatoes, chicken and steamed veggies, italian foods, Jamaican food, American food, Asian cuisine mostly. I lost a ton of weight not recorded on MFP. 1630 is what MFP recommended for a 2/lb a week weight loss. It's an adjustment but nothing I haven't done before. Last year u significantly cut my cals and got down to the low 230s from 270 within 4-5 months. I picked up 12-15lbs but luckily, not all fat. I do 80-100 push ups a night, average 8k steps a day, and still lift and do cardio at the gym 3 days a week. I gained due to my love for cheese and lots of it since this January. However, I still fit the same clothes just fine but I want to be down to 220 or less.
Do you think that is significant in any way?
Do you think it's not?
It tells me that he doesn't move much. That is kind of counter to his implication that he has gained muscle from working out. 3 day a week at the gym isn't very impressive either.
Good thing weight loss is easier for men...
Why do you feel 8k steps isn't moving much? Why do you feel 3 days/week at the gym isn't very impressive? Does it need to be impressive?
If you are going to brag about it and talk about how you have gained "muscle" instead of weight, yes.
By the way, I do at least twice that, often quite a bit more. I'm just a woman though...
I don't disagree with you that the claims of gaining muscle on that type of activity are rather far fetched.
What I'm taking issue with is why you feel the need to downplay or belittle other's activity simply because you can do more. These things are all relative.
Thanks for sticking up for people like me, UltimateRBF. I've been feeling absolutely awesome and have lost 25 lbs from CI<CO and averaging 10,000 steps a day. But that's not good enough? Well, you know what can be done with that opinion.0 -
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UltimateRBF wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »You'll probably have a better idea about your progress after a month or so. Not to be overly crude, but I can experience 1 lb loss in a day depending on how much fiber I have.
1630 kcal/day is a bit low for a man of your age, especially if you're at all active. Again, see what the numbers are like over time, but aggressive deficits can offer problems in the long term.
As far as meals go, what do you like eating? Some men like steak and potatoes, and some like grilled chicken and steamed vegetables. I like most anything that doesn't have mushrooms or olives in it.
I like steak and potatoes, chicken and steamed veggies, italian foods, Jamaican food, American food, Asian cuisine mostly. I lost a ton of weight not recorded on MFP. 1630 is what MFP recommended for a 2/lb a week weight loss. It's an adjustment but nothing I haven't done before. Last year u significantly cut my cals and got down to the low 230s from 270 within 4-5 months. I picked up 12-15lbs but luckily, not all fat. I do 80-100 push ups a night, average 8k steps a day, and still lift and do cardio at the gym 3 days a week. I gained due to my love for cheese and lots of it since this January. However, I still fit the same clothes just fine but I want to be down to 220 or less.
Do you think that is significant in any way?
Do you think it's not?
It tells me that he doesn't move much. That is kind of counter to his implication that he has gained muscle from working out. 3 day a week at the gym isn't very impressive either.
Good thing weight loss is easier for men...
Why do you feel 8k steps isn't moving much? Why do you feel 3 days/week at the gym isn't very impressive? Does it need to be impressive?
If you are going to brag about it and talk about how you have gained "muscle" instead of weight, yes.
By the way, I do at least twice that, often quite a bit more. I'm just a woman though...
I don't disagree with you that the claims of gaining muscle on that type of activity are rather far fetched.
What I'm taking issue with is why you feel the need to downplay or belittle other's activity simply because you can do more. These things are all relative.
Thanks for sticking up for people like me, UltimateRBF. I've been feeling absolutely awesome and have lost 25 lbs from CI<CO and averaging 10,000 steps a day. But that's not good enough? Well, you know what can be done with that opinion.
I'll be honest, I was also sticking up for myself. Between long hours at a desk job and a commute both ways, I'm sometimes lucky to break 5,000 steps on a work day. But I make up for it by controlling my intake and being as active as possible on my days off. I am learning to run and finally ran 5K the other day. I've also lost close to 40lbs in the last year, which isn't much but I've had to break through a lot of mental walls to get where I am. Still breaking walls.
I have friends that could deadlift cars and others who run marathons for fun. Compared to them I'm like Homer Simpson. But they all had their starting point and I had mine. This isn't a pissing match, the biggest competition is with yourself.
So if what I do isn't good enough by someone else's standards, then oh well.
You ran 5K and you've lost 40 lbs! Wow, that's awesome! Good for you.0 -
UltimateRBF wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »You'll probably have a better idea about your progress after a month or so. Not to be overly crude, but I can experience 1 lb loss in a day depending on how much fiber I have.
1630 kcal/day is a bit low for a man of your age, especially if you're at all active. Again, see what the numbers are like over time, but aggressive deficits can offer problems in the long term.
As far as meals go, what do you like eating? Some men like steak and potatoes, and some like grilled chicken and steamed vegetables. I like most anything that doesn't have mushrooms or olives in it.
I like steak and potatoes, chicken and steamed veggies, italian foods, Jamaican food, American food, Asian cuisine mostly. I lost a ton of weight not recorded on MFP. 1630 is what MFP recommended for a 2/lb a week weight loss. It's an adjustment but nothing I haven't done before. Last year u significantly cut my cals and got down to the low 230s from 270 within 4-5 months. I picked up 12-15lbs but luckily, not all fat. I do 80-100 push ups a night, average 8k steps a day, and still lift and do cardio at the gym 3 days a week. I gained due to my love for cheese and lots of it since this January. However, I still fit the same clothes just fine but I want to be down to 220 or less.
Do you think that is significant in any way?
Do you think it's not?
It tells me that he doesn't move much. That is kind of counter to his implication that he has gained muscle from working out. 3 day a week at the gym isn't very impressive either.
Good thing weight loss is easier for men...
Why do you feel 8k steps isn't moving much? Why do you feel 3 days/week at the gym isn't very impressive? Does it need to be impressive?
I am curious where you're basing these statements from.
I don't do it to impress anybody. You are way off base and insulting. I was 325 in 2011 and my not do impressive 3 days a week at the gym with good eating habits got me under 250 with no trainer, just raw willpower. This site is supposed to encourage people, not undermine. And last the last person said, where are you basing your statements?
Well done on the weight loss!
Just a thought... as a woman, I find it worrying that a person calls themselves "Domineer" and wants to exclude women from his thread. You probably haven't realised, but that seems sexist at the very least, and quite worrying.
Are you aware of how that might seem? My apologies if this sounds like I am attacking you. I hope you understand I am trying to see both sides of the debate, and I quite understand if you just hadn't made the connection with your OP request and your username.
Again, very well done on the willpower.0 -
I see a lot of people commenting that men have a higher TDEE, more muscle, more this and that...
I cant see where anyone is disputing this applies on average, i think the issue is the fact that it comes across (wrongly or rightly) that women cannot possibly contribute to the food diet because they don't have the same requirements.
I'm not a 6ft 8' diabetic wookie but i could probably offer advice on their diet...as could any other man or woman that knows a bit about nutrition0 -
OP, when I dropped weight, my calorie goal was around 1600. I'm maintaining now around 2200 (which really just means more treats and more liquor) so I don't think that my diary will help much although every Friday I do set my goal back to 1600. I always tried to eat more than1600 though and let exercise keep me under. It's pretty easy if you already like the elliptical. Stay committed and good luck with your plans.0
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Since you seem to believe that putting down the accomplishments of others because they don't measure up to your own, maybe you could post what you lift when you go to the gym all those times so people can tell you that you aren't lifting enough because someone else lifts more.azulvioleta6 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »You'll probably have a better idea about your progress after a month or so. Not to be overly crude, but I can experience 1 lb loss in a day depending on how much fiber I have.
1630 kcal/day is a bit low for a man of your age, especially if you're at all active. Again, see what the numbers are like over time, but aggressive deficits can offer problems in the long term.
As far as meals go, what do you like eating? Some men like steak and potatoes, and some like grilled chicken and steamed vegetables. I like most anything that doesn't have mushrooms or olives in it.
I like steak and potatoes, chicken and steamed veggies, italian foods, Jamaican food, American food, Asian cuisine mostly. I lost a ton of weight not recorded on MFP. 1630 is what MFP recommended for a 2/lb a week weight loss. It's an adjustment but nothing I haven't done before. Last year u significantly cut my cals and got down to the low 230s from 270 within 4-5 months. I picked up 12-15lbs but luckily, not all fat. I do 80-100 push ups a night, average 8k steps a day, and still lift and do cardio at the gym 3 days a week. I gained due to my love for cheese and lots of it since this January. However, I still fit the same clothes just fine but I want to be down to 220 or less.
Do you think that is significant in any way?
Do you think it's not?
It tells me that he doesn't move much. That is kind of counter to his implication that he has gained muscle from working out. 3 day a week at the gym isn't very impressive either.
Good thing weight loss is easier for men...
Why do you feel 8k steps isn't moving much? Why do you feel 3 days/week at the gym isn't very impressive? Does it need to be impressive?
If you are going to brag about it and talk about how you have gained "muscle" instead of weight, yes.
By the way, I do at least twice that, often quite a bit more. I'm just a woman though...
Your incessant "hey, I do more than that" isn't helpful and edges toward derogatory.
For the most part, I don't see why the diets of people who are trying to accomplish the same things as OP wouldn't be potentially helpful, male or female. Just scale up or down to your calorie goals. The allocations are going to be pretty similar, if slightly lower on protein for some women.
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Men eat differently than women? AWESOME no more cooking for him!0
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Eggs and dairy and shrimp and peppers AND a crust. Oh, yeah, I eat that stuff.atypicalsmith wrote: »Men don't eat quiche.
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Domineer! Congrats on working to lose weight. Good for you! I'm an office guy, have dropped 32 lbs and continuing to grind off another 50. Because I'm diabetic I'm on a strictly Vegan diet. While I thought it would be a nightmare, it has actually been fantastic! After a month I don't miss meat products at all and the fat is dropping fast. Men do have some different concerns when it comes to protein intake and our tastes for foods. Ignore them and press on! The one diet item that really helps me are black bean Vegan burritos. They have a lot of fibre and protein, reasonable calories and low carbs. There are many recipes out there, but best just to make your own to your own taste. I use dried black beans that I cook in the crock pot, onions, lettuce, tomato and salsa (with no sugar added.) If I freeze them (make a dozen or so) then I leave the veggies off. You could add cheese. Give it a try...and best of luck!
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SoLongAndThanksForAllTheFish wrote: »DisneyDude85 wrote: »MFP gave me a goal of 1640, but usually eat more than that due to exercise. However, my meal planning helps me stay in that 1640 range on days that I don't exercise, and I am never full. I'm 5'7" 259lb sedentary (office job) with a goal weight of 160 (tip top of the "healthy" bmi chart for my height).
And for this reason is why I wanted men to give me their input, ladies. All of your points are valid but comparing another man with my goals and what we eat and their progress just motivates me more. I'm 5'10, 247lb....I have an office job with a true goal weight of 200lbs. Nothing personal ladies, this is your forum, no doubt about it. But please, picking on us males, being the minority on this site, is overboard just a tad
Yeah this happens a lot online, and its strange, its very common to want to compare to the same gender and there is a lot of logic behind it, women wanting to hear from similar women doesn't generate all the "OMG you are sexist" type replies (and they really shouldn't), but men seeking posts from other men do.
On average a guy has more muscle mass per weight than a woman, have more in common in activities and activity likes with other guys than women, have more in common with other guys food choices than women, have more in common with guy's effort into putting a meal together than women. Yes you can find exceptions to each and every one of those always, but on average, if you have more in common with other guys, its logical to request to limit the field a bit. Its odd how some people manufacture "offense" out of it. You didn't even say "no women", you said "particularly the men", strange thing to spend energy being offended at.
Plus you are newish to this probably, so probably aren't aware that other factors like matching caloric intake per day, burn per day, meal number, diet type, size and height are more pertinent to match than gender if you are going to be looking at like-sized food portions and meal compositions. You could look at mine if you wish, but I'm eating about double what you do, and I'm bigger, more active, and I don't group food by meal, so you'd be better off matching characteristics I just mentioned with someone else.
I think the girls only threads are silly, too. Outside of questions about menstruation.
Who said they were offended? I think it's incredibly short sighted to limit yourself to getting input from boys because they're boys instead of people because they're successful. That's all. There no implied or stated offense.
As to the bold - that's going to vary more on a persons goals rather than their gender.
The OP is 5'7" and 259 pounds. I'm 5'5" and started at 232 pounds (149 now, and like I said previously, I eat more than he does, daily). I think I have fairly relevant experience to offer, but I won't because of my gender. His loss 0 -
Considering your calorie allowance is about the same as mine (a real like woman), feel free to look at my diary. I have low days though because I bank for the weekend.0
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girlviernes wrote: »Agreed 1630 is low. The goal is to determine how much you can eat while still losing steadily. The TDEE calculators can help you sort that out, then keep track and adjust as needed.
That may be your goal; that is not everyone's goal. It could theoretically be defined as a math equation.
"Dieting" is any unnatural restriction in your food intake and as such produces a product that we'll call unhappiness. Unhappiness is proportional to the daily level of unhappiness (proportional to calorie deficit level) multiplied by time.
A small deficit diet may have unhappiness X1 with diet duration to goal of Y1, yielding unhappiness X1Y1.
A large deficit may have unhappiness X2 and diet duration to goal of Y2, yielding unhappiness of X2Y2.
It is possible for X2 to exceed X1 (more short term unhappiness) and Y2 to be less than Y1 (shorter time of dieting) and have the product X2Y2 be less than the product X1Y1. Hence for some people in some settings, a faster diet may have more short term pain but a net benefit in the end.
I love this.
Please add to the equation the effect of too much unhappiness on compliance.
I have low unhappiness and high compliance.
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It seams like the op just wants to compare his dietary needs to someone. If the op is a 200lb male, his states are going to be more in common to another 200lb male than a 200lb female. I agree that the op shouldn't seek insight from just any males food dairy, but another male with similar stats. For example, my food dairy would be pretty useless to the op since I'm bulking and my stats is much different than his.0
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It seams like the op just wants to compare his dietary needs to someone. If the op is a 200lb male, his states are going to be more in common to another 200lb male than a 200lb female. I agree that the op shouldn't seek insight from just any males food dairy, but another male with similar stats. For example, my food dairy would be pretty useless to the op since I'm bulking and my stats is much different than his.
But he is eating the same calorie amount as many of us females. Yeah, his macros are going to be different but he can still get ideas from our diaries as far as recipes go.0 -
MorganMoreaux wrote: »My husband eats what I eat, but in larger portions. He is on this site as well... I'll see if he wants to respond to your post as I apparently am not qualified.
OP never said that.
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Not sure why this blew up like it did. OP didn't state "no women". First responders seemed to be making rhetorical jabs.
A lot of nastiness followed without any input from OP.
All he was wanting was feedback from a male perspective. And yes, women do have valid knowledgeable input. But, he needed the men to back and encourage him to keep going and advise him.
I hope the best for OP. And he is able to meet his goals.
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Well, I am eating 2500 calories a day and losing a pound a week. I can't do the low calorie diets any longer. It makes me mean. My maintenance is just under 3000 calories to stay at 188lbs. I eat about 350g of carbs, 160g protein and the rest from fat.
Lots of chicken breast and rice with some green beans & green chili.
My morning shake (black beans, oats, protein concentrate, banana, cocoa, almond butter).
Top round steak and eggs (1 egg and 6 egg whites) with 1.5 cups oats
Tilapia and sweet potato with broccoli
2-3L of water
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Do a search for "open diary". You should find results like the one linked below. There'll be dudes responding on there. Click their profile and click on "View diary". Enjoy
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10076311/to-those-of-you-with-a-public-food-diary/p10 -
Mine is public, check it if you want. Occasionally theres one last casin shake + 200 ml milk missing as last meal, sometimes i just dont mind adding as long as i am sure i had the free calories left and wont eat anymore.
Calories are currently set to 2600 with 5km/day running + 3days weight lifting 1day rest cycles. 2600 cals is enough to maintaim my current ~71 kg.0 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »You'll probably have a better idea about your progress after a month or so. Not to be overly crude, but I can experience 1 lb loss in a day depending on how much fiber I have.
1630 kcal/day is a bit low for a man of your age, especially if you're at all active. Again, see what the numbers are like over time, but aggressive deficits can offer problems in the long term.
As far as meals go, what do you like eating? Some men like steak and potatoes, and some like grilled chicken and steamed vegetables. I like most anything that doesn't have mushrooms or olives in it.
I like steak and potatoes, chicken and steamed veggies, italian foods, Jamaican food, American food, Asian cuisine mostly. I lost a ton of weight not recorded on MFP. 1630 is what MFP recommended for a 2/lb a week weight loss. It's an adjustment but nothing I haven't done before. Last year u significantly cut my cals and got down to the low 230s from 270 within 4-5 months. I picked up 12-15lbs but luckily, not all fat. I do 80-100 push ups a night, average 8k steps a day, and still lift and do cardio at the gym 3 days a week. I gained due to my love for cheese and lots of it since this January. However, I still fit the same clothes just fine but I want to be down to 220 or less.
Do you think that is significant in any way?
Do you think it's not?
It tells me that he doesn't move much. That is kind of counter to his implication that he has gained muscle from working out. 3 day a week at the gym isn't very impressive either.
Good thing weight loss is easier for men...
Why do you feel 8k steps isn't moving much? Why do you feel 3 days/week at the gym isn't very impressive? Does it need to be impressive?
If you are going to brag about it and talk about how you have gained "muscle" instead of weight, yes.
By the way, I do at least twice that, often quite a bit more. I'm just a woman though...
I don't disagree with you that the claims of gaining muscle on that type of activity are rather far fetched.
What I'm taking issue with is why you feel the need to downplay or belittle other's activity simply because you can do more. These things are all relative.
Thanks for sticking up for people like me, UltimateRBF. I've been feeling absolutely awesome and have lost 25 lbs from CI<CO and averaging 10,000 steps a day. But that's not good enough? Well, you know what can be done with that opinion.
I'll be honest, I was also sticking up for myself. Between long hours at a desk job and a commute both ways, I'm sometimes lucky to break 5,000 steps on a work day. But I make up for it by controlling my intake and being as active as possible on my days off. I am learning to run and finally ran 5K the other day. I've also lost close to 40lbs in the last year, which isn't much but I've had to break through a lot of mental walls to get where I am. Still breaking walls.
I have friends that could deadlift cars and others who run marathons for fun. Compared to them I'm like Homer Simpson. But they all had their starting point and I had mine. This isn't a pissing match, the biggest competition is with yourself.
So if what I do isn't good enough by someone else's standards, then oh well.
I also have a desk job. My starting point was bedridden.
Do more.
Welp. You know what you can go do.0
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