Carbs and loss of control

jensquish1
jensquish1 Posts: 499 Member
edited November 21 in Food and Nutrition
so if I allow myself to have a delicious chocolate bar or pudding... You name it... I lose my *kitten*. I gotta eat it all! Like binge fest. So basically this means I can't have anything sugary to cheat... Especially at night. It makes me sad. I've been down this road many times now. I didn't log my downfall last night, but basically after a great day of eating right I allowed myself some arctic zero cookie dough ice cream aaaaand ended up with some Hershey's chocolate And Doritos chips. FML.

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  • IsaackGMOON
    IsaackGMOON Posts: 3,358 Member
    Do you cut out carbs for periods of time and then reintroduce them as a cheat meal? If so, that could be your downfall perhaps.
  • jensquish1
    jensquish1 Posts: 499 Member
    Do you cut out carbs for periods of time and then reintroduce them as a cheat meal? If so, that could be your downfall perhaps.
    I don't cut them out completely at all. I try and keep my protein higher than my carbs and in general I "try" to keep my carb intake decent. So I'm not really sure what triggered it. It's not the first time. I guess I just can't eat anything carbish when I'm at home in the evenings.
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  • IsaackGMOON
    IsaackGMOON Posts: 3,358 Member
    jensquish1 wrote: »
    Do you cut out carbs for periods of time and then reintroduce them as a cheat meal? If so, that could be your downfall perhaps.
    I don't cut them out completely at all. I try and keep my protein higher than my carbs and in general I "try" to keep my carb intake decent. So I'm not really sure what triggered it. It's not the first time. I guess I just can't eat anything carbish when I'm at home in the evenings.

    I guess people respond to carbs differently. Could you open your diary? Or tell me how many carbs you eat normally?
  • jensquish1
    jensquish1 Posts: 499 Member
    log it. how are you gonna face the issue if you keep pretending it never happened,

    It's not that I'm pretending it never happened, I just don't even know how much of a portion I ate.
  • jensquish1
    jensquish1 Posts: 499 Member
    jensquish1 wrote: »
    Do you cut out carbs for periods of time and then reintroduce them as a cheat meal? If so, that could be your downfall perhaps.
    I don't cut them out completely at all. I try and keep my protein higher than my carbs and in general I "try" to keep my carb intake decent. So I'm not really sure what triggered it. It's not the first time. I guess I just can't eat anything carbish when I'm at home in the evenings.

    I guess people respond to carbs differently. Could you open your diary? Or tell me how many carbs you eat normally?

    I will open it. I just have to figure out how. Lol give me a few.
  • Serena795
    Serena795 Posts: 21 Member
    Have you tried
    1) increasing protein and fat intake
    2) increasing daytime portion sizes
    3) keeping the trigger foods out of the house? Or keeping yourself out of the house?

    I've found that all of those steps limit the damage I can do. If I increase protein and fat intake, my blood sugar levels are less likely to dip, and keeping me/the food out of the house prevents temptation.

    Also, what I've personally realized is that when I crave carbs or start eating a lot of them, what I really am is bored or lonely. Enjoying a little ice cream or chatting with friends, or keeping myself occupied usually keeps the carbs at bay.

    That being said, I can feel my strength workouts tank if I don't eat enough starches, so there's a fine line between carb-eating because you have temptation, and carb-eating because your body is craving some starches for muscle repair/glycogen storage.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    I'd estimate it. If not it's easy to have that play into the pattern. Once you screw up and overeat you think "eh, I don't know what I ate and can't log," and then your mind uses that as an excuse to eat more: "I'm already over anyway and what's more over when the number is unknowable, and besides after tonight I won't do it ever again!" Better to try and estimate as accurately as possible and face it. Still better to log while you are doing it, of course.

    It may be more the situation than the carbs (which sound like they are actually a mix of carbs and fat). We can have a pattern or habit of eating under certain circumstances that is hard to resist until the habit is broken. If I start allowing myself to grab a handful of this or that at work I end up eating way more than I intended, so in that circumstance I have to not snack. If you have a habit of overeating at home in the evenings I wouldn't keep food around until you are reading to seriously work on it and have everything else under control. You might be able to incorporate single servings outside the house or the like.

    I think telling ourself that we don't have control is a good way to make that true.
  • IsaackGMOON
    IsaackGMOON Posts: 3,358 Member
    jensquish1 wrote: »
    jensquish1 wrote: »
    Do you cut out carbs for periods of time and then reintroduce them as a cheat meal? If so, that could be your downfall perhaps.
    I don't cut them out completely at all. I try and keep my protein higher than my carbs and in general I "try" to keep my carb intake decent. So I'm not really sure what triggered it. It's not the first time. I guess I just can't eat anything carbish when I'm at home in the evenings.

    I guess people respond to carbs differently. Could you open your diary? Or tell me how many carbs you eat normally?

    I will open it. I just have to figure out how. Lol give me a few.

    Seems your macros jump around quite a bit. I'm not entirely sure, but I'd recommend upping your calories to 1400 so you have a bit more leeway with what you eat.
  • jensquish1
    jensquish1 Posts: 499 Member
    Serena795 wrote: »
    Have you tried
    1) increasing protein and fat intake
    2) increasing daytime portion sizes
    3) keeping the trigger foods out of the house? Or keeping yourself out of the house?

    I've found that all of those steps limit the damage I can do. If I increase protein and fat intake, my blood sugar levels are less likely to dip, and keeping me/the food out of the house prevents temptation.

    Also, what I've personally realized is that when I crave carbs or start eating a lot of them, what I really am is bored or lonely. Enjoying a little ice cream or chatting with friends, or keeping myself occupied usually keeps the carbs at bay.

    That being said, I can feel my strength workouts tank if I don't eat enough starches, so there's a fine line between carb-eating because you have temptation, and carb-eating because your body is craving some starches for muscle repair/glycogen storage.

    That makes sense. I was by myself last night and actually pretty exhausted. I've been trying to figure out the right balance of carbs and protein and fat, but I really don't know. I just started logging again recently.
  • jensquish1
    jensquish1 Posts: 499 Member
    jensquish1 wrote: »
    jensquish1 wrote: »
    Do you cut out carbs for periods of time and then reintroduce them as a cheat meal? If so, that could be your downfall perhaps.
    I don't cut them out completely at all. I try and keep my protein higher than my carbs and in general I "try" to keep my carb intake decent. So I'm not really sure what triggered it. It's not the first time. I guess I just can't eat anything carbish when I'm at home in the evenings.

    I guess people respond to carbs differently. Could you open your diary? Or tell me how many carbs you eat normally?

    I will open it. I just have to figure out how. Lol give me a few.

    Seems your macros jump around quite a bit. I'm not entirely sure, but I'd recommend upping your calories to 1400 so you have a bit more leeway with what you eat.
    I think that may be part of the issue as well. I work out quite a bit and also don't log all my work outs as it is hard to estimate calories burned with some of the things. I'm just now trying to figure out what balance or carbs/protein/fat would work for me.
  • jensquish1
    jensquish1 Posts: 499 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    I'd estimate it. If not it's easy to have that play into the pattern. Once you screw up and overeat you think "eh, I don't know what I ate and can't log," and then your mind uses that as an excuse to eat more: "I'm already over anyway and what's more over when the number is unknowable, and besides after tonight I won't do it ever again!" Better to try and estimate as accurately as possible and face it. Still better to log while you are doing it, of course.

    It may be more the situation than the carbs (which sound like they are actually a mix of carbs and fat). We can have a pattern or habit of eating under certain circumstances that is hard to resist until the habit is broken. If I start allowing myself to grab a handful of this or that at work I end up eating way more than I intended, so in that circumstance I have to not snack. If you have a habit of overeating at home in the evenings I wouldn't keep food around until you are reading to seriously work on it and have everything else under control. You might be able to incorporate single servings outside the house or the like.

    I think telling ourself that we don't have control is a good way to make that true.
    I may just have to cut snacks out past dinner. Or do a protein snack instead. I don't usually over eat on carbs in the day if I snack.
  • newblue95
    newblue95 Posts: 53 Member
    I find that if I eat more during the day, I eat less at dinner. I usually allow myself a pretty big protein-rich breakfast and lunch, maybe up to 500 calories each. I've also cut carbs down too 100g or so a day. Both of these strategies help me feel a lot less hungry at dinnertime and later. It does take some trial and error to find a system that works for you. I used to have a huge problem of snacking at night too, but you can overcome it! Good luck!
  • jensquish1
    jensquish1 Posts: 499 Member
    newblue95 wrote: »
    I find that if I eat more during the day, I eat less at dinner. I usually allow myself a pretty big protein-rich breakfast and lunch, maybe up to 500 calories each. I've also cut carbs down too 100g or so a day. Both of these strategies help me feel a lot less hungry at dinnertime and later. It does take some trial and error to find a system that works for you. I used to have a huge problem of snacking at night too, but you can overcome it! Good luck!

    Thank you!
  • Katzedernacht
    Katzedernacht Posts: 266 Member
    That used to happen to me!! I usually had it triggered by alcohol though, so now that I drink so so so little, it's gone.

    I think measuring the serving portions might help?
  • jensquish1
    jensquish1 Posts: 499 Member
    That used to happen to me!! I usually had it triggered by alcohol though, so now that I drink so so so little, it's gone.

    I think measuring the serving portions might help?

    I used to have it happen after going out and drinking as well. I stopped drinking a few months ago too!
  • galgenstrick
    galgenstrick Posts: 2,086 Member
    I save the treats for right before bed. Brush my teeth directly after then go to sleep. If I get cravings, then I'm asleep and don't have to deal with them.
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    I had sugar issues too. I had to give them up - I just can't handle a little bit even when I not hungry. I now eat LCHF and find that it works for me.

    Good luck!
  • ohmscheeks
    ohmscheeks Posts: 840 Member
    That sucks. My issue is with "eating out", I can't order a salad. I always end up with the nacho supreme burger and a milk shake, lol. So, I am trying to eat at home now... Weight loss is hard enough without dangling temptations in my own face. :)
  • jensquish1
    jensquish1 Posts: 499 Member
    ohmscheeks wrote: »
    That sucks. My issue is with "eating out", I can't order a salad. I always end up with the nacho supreme burger and a milk shake, lol. So, I am trying to eat at home now... Weight loss is hard enough without dangling temptations in my own face. :)

    Girl, I know how that is! Well go out to eat and my husband orders some yummy burger or pasta dish and here I am with my salad and lite dressing
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