This Chart Shows People with the Same BMI May Look Different
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Depending on the amount of muscle and fat.
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BMI is completely flawed and might work well for some percentage of the population, but makes no sense fundamentally bc it presupposes height is a more deterministic factor as to a healthy body weight than anything else.
Wrist circumference for instance is a better criteria to consider.0 -
Yup at maintenance and my BMI is 24
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Every single running back in the B10, obese as hell, lol.
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People have turned bmi into something it was never meant to be. You can't fault the hammer if people are trying to use it like screwdriver.0
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Why have a BMI in the first place?
Why not judge each actual case on its own merits.
The whole idea is deeply flawed, but if you're going to create some mindless table, try using a better set of criteria including wrist and ankle circumference.0 -
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I mean.. not to be rude, but you certainly dont LOOK healthy, even if you might be... so I can see why your doctor is concerned0
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Why have a BMI in the first place?
Why not judge each actual case on its own merits.
The whole idea is deeply flawed, but if you're going to create some mindless table, try using a better set of criteria including wrist and ankle circumference.
You have me curious, what do ankle and wrist measurements have to tell us? I've not read that before?0 -
RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »Why have a BMI in the first place?
Why not judge each actual case on its own merits.
The whole idea is deeply flawed, but if you're going to create some mindless table, try using a better set of criteria including wrist and ankle circumference.
You have me curious, what do ankle and wrist measurements have to tell us? I've not read that before?
Generally those measurements speak to the frame size/bone thickness/build of people. These factors affect body weight more than height often.0 -
Im 35.3 BMI. I think I look more like between over weight and class I. Hell, from the front you can even see where my abs are/would be.
I can do 100 situps in two minutes, easily do 20 pullups, bench 200lbs, squat 200lbs, and bicycle (bad knees, cant run) 6 miles in 30 minutes all while looking like a fat slob. yet, that 35 makes my doctor say im unhealthy.
I think you're looking a things a little bit more positive than they actually are. You may have a reasonable condition, your strength is average for someone that works out. But you cannot deny that you're pretty overweight. (you are trying to lose 38 pounds, so i'm pretty sure you are aware of that)
When i was your posture* i figured i had enough of this crap and wanted to lose all of it, for my mobility, agility, self-respect and basically for my future.
Anyway, i wish you good luck in your journey, i hope you will shed that weight and feel even fitter!
*here's my 100 days post with pictures where i started at 34.1 bmi, http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10176614/100-days-of-mfp#latest
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Im 35.3 BMI. I think I look more like between over weight and class I. Hell, from the front you can even see where my abs are/would be.
I can do 100 situps in two minutes, easily do 20 pullups, bench 200lbs, squat 200lbs, and bicycle (bad knees, cant run) 6 miles in 30 minutes all while looking like a fat slob. yet, that 35 makes my doctor say im unhealthy.
I think you're looking a things a little bit more positive than they actually are. You may have a reasonable condition, your strength is average for someone that works out. But you cannot deny that you're pretty overweight. (you are trying to lose 38 pounds, so i'm pretty sure you are aware of that)
When i was your posture* i figured i had enough of this crap and wanted to lose all of it, for my mobility, agility, self-respect and basically for my future.
Anyway, i wish you good luck in your journey, i hope you will shed that weight and feel even fitter!
*here's my 100 days post with pictures where i started at 34.1 bmi, http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10176614/100-days-of-mfp#latest
Great, but what do all those things have to do with BMI?0 -
Um so height doesn't influence frame size? Alrighty then lolRuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »Why have a BMI in the first place?
Why not judge each actual case on its own merits.
The whole idea is deeply flawed, but if you're going to create some mindless table, try using a better set of criteria including wrist and ankle circumference.
You have me curious, what do ankle and wrist measurements have to tell us? I've not read that before?
Generally those measurements speak to the frame size/bone thickness/build of people. These factors affect body weight more than height often.
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RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »Why have a BMI in the first place?
Why not judge each actual case on its own merits.
The whole idea is deeply flawed, but if you're going to create some mindless table, try using a better set of criteria including wrist and ankle circumference.
You have me curious, what do ankle and wrist measurements have to tell us? I've not read that before?
Generally those measurements speak to the frame size/bone thickness/build of people. These factors affect body weight more than height often.
So I just measured and my wrist is 6 and 1/4 inchs and my ankle is spot on 9 inchs. I am 5ft 4 if that has anything to do with it. What is that meant to tell me about my body frame?0 -
BMI is a useful statistical measure on a population level, it creates a bell curve of health risks ...any bell curve has outliers. The BMI scale has approx 30% outliers ....it should never be employed on an individual level but is
Of course everybody seems to think they are an outlier
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annette_15 wrote: »I mean.. not to be rude, but you certainly dont LOOK healthy, even if you might be... so I can see why your doctor is concerned
looks can be deceiving. other than being fat, I have no medical issues (blood pressure, disease, etc) other than the physical ones I sustained in the military, which are the main cause for me even becoming fat (hard to exercise when in pain and those things I do at the bottom are only recent...it took years to be able to achieve those (quite happy about it)).Im 35.3 BMI. I think I look more like between over weight and class I. Hell, from the front you can even see where my abs are/would be.
I can do 100 situps in two minutes, easily do 20 pullups, bench 200lbs, squat 200lbs, and bicycle (bad knees, cant run) 6 miles in 30 minutes all while looking like a fat slob. yet, that 35 makes my doctor say im unhealthy.
I think you're looking a things a little bit more positive than they actually are. You may have a reasonable condition, your strength is average for someone that works out. But you cannot deny that you're pretty overweight. (you are trying to lose 38 pounds, so i'm pretty sure you are aware of that)
When i was your posture* i figured i had enough of this crap and wanted to lose all of it, for my mobility, agility, self-respect and basically for my future.
Anyway, i wish you good luck in your journey, i hope you will shed that weight and feel even fitter!
*here's my 100 days post with pictures where i started at 34.1 bmi, http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10176614/100-days-of-mfp#latest
see above response. I agree that im fat but i'm not entirely at fault for it (one of the few who can legit say that).
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Why is it important?
Saying something isn't random certainly isn't a compelling argument for elevating it to being important in the process.
Why not simply use waist circumference? That isn't random either, right?0 -
Why is it important?
Saying something isn't random certainly isn't a compelling argument for elevating it to being important in the process.
Why not simply use waist circumference? That isn't random either, right?
Mate, you've been trolling the weight loss forum all morning, not biting (another example is here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10213966/why-do-people-in-the-us-predominantly-eat-carbs#latest). It was important enough for @mokaiba to make a post, therefor i can answer to it whatever the f i want.see above response. I agree that im fat but i'm not entirely at fault for it (one of the few who can legit say that).
Yeah i've been in the same issue, been a soldier for 5 years, when i stopped, all those precious muscles evaporized s slowly into fat and that put me in a very uncomfortable position, no medical condition, other than being gaming addicted for years, if i'd only did sports twice a week...
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Why is it important?
Saying something isn't random certainly isn't a compelling argument for elevating it to being important in the process.
Why not simply use waist circumference? That isn't random either, right?
Mate, you've been trolling the weight loss forum all morning, not biting (another example is here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10213966/why-do-people-in-the-us-predominantly-eat-carbs#latest). It was important enough for @mokaiba to make a post, therefor i can answer to it whatever the f i want.see above response. I agree that im fat but i'm not entirely at fault for it (one of the few who can legit say that).
Yeah i've been in the same issue, been a soldier for 5 years, when i stopped, all those precious muscles evaporized s slowly into fat and that put me in a very uncomfortable position, no medical condition, other than being gaming addicted for years, if i'd only did sports twice a week...
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annette_15 wrote: »I mean.. not to be rude, but you certainly dont LOOK healthy, even if you might be... so I can see why your doctor is concerned
looks can be deceiving. other than being fat, I have no medical issues (blood pressure, disease, etc) other than the physical ones I sustained in the military, which are the main cause for me even becoming fat (hard to exercise when in pain and those things I do at the bottom are only recent...it took years to be able to achieve those (quite happy about it)).Im 35.3 BMI. I think I look more like between over weight and class I. Hell, from the front you can even see where my abs are/would be.
I can do 100 situps in two minutes, easily do 20 pullups, bench 200lbs, squat 200lbs, and bicycle (bad knees, cant run) 6 miles in 30 minutes all while looking like a fat slob. yet, that 35 makes my doctor say im unhealthy.
I think you're looking a things a little bit more positive than they actually are. You may have a reasonable condition, your strength is average for someone that works out. But you cannot deny that you're pretty overweight. (you are trying to lose 38 pounds, so i'm pretty sure you are aware of that)
When i was your posture* i figured i had enough of this crap and wanted to lose all of it, for my mobility, agility, self-respect and basically for my future.
Anyway, i wish you good luck in your journey, i hope you will shed that weight and feel even fitter!
*here's my 100 days post with pictures where i started at 34.1 bmi, http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10176614/100-days-of-mfp#latest
see above response. I agree that im fat but i'm not entirely at fault for it (one of the few who can legit say that).
Of course it's not your fault... http://themighty.com/2015/07/2photographer-captures-confidence-of-wounded-veterans-in-new-book/0 -
annette_15 wrote: »I mean.. not to be rude, but you certainly dont LOOK healthy, even if you might be... so I can see why your doctor is concerned
looks can be deceiving. other than being fat, I have no medical issues (blood pressure, disease, etc) other than the physical ones I sustained in the military, which are the main cause for me even becoming fat (hard to exercise when in pain and those things I do at the bottom are only recent...it took years to be able to achieve those (quite happy about it)).Im 35.3 BMI. I think I look more like between over weight and class I. Hell, from the front you can even see where my abs are/would be.
I can do 100 situps in two minutes, easily do 20 pullups, bench 200lbs, squat 200lbs, and bicycle (bad knees, cant run) 6 miles in 30 minutes all while looking like a fat slob. yet, that 35 makes my doctor say im unhealthy.
I think you're looking a things a little bit more positive than they actually are. You may have a reasonable condition, your strength is average for someone that works out. But you cannot deny that you're pretty overweight. (you are trying to lose 38 pounds, so i'm pretty sure you are aware of that)
When i was your posture* i figured i had enough of this crap and wanted to lose all of it, for my mobility, agility, self-respect and basically for my future.
Anyway, i wish you good luck in your journey, i hope you will shed that weight and feel even fitter!
*here's my 100 days post with pictures where i started at 34.1 bmi, http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10176614/100-days-of-mfp#latest
see above response. I agree that im fat but i'm not entirely at fault for it (one of the few who can legit say that).
Of course it's not your fault... http://themighty.com/2015/07/2photographer-captures-confidence-of-wounded-veterans-in-new-book/
i cant tell if youre trolling or being serious. not all amputees are 8% body fat and on the fat topic not all military are less than 10% body fat. Hell, the usa military dont even consider males with 25% body fat (female 31%) to be fat. If you can meet all the physical requirements at 25% body fat then the military doesnt care that youre 25%. however, if youre 27%, they will put you in additional training to lower the body fat (just more exercising...they dont control your food intake because it doesnt matter what you eat to them only what you burn). typically, soldiers who are 27% or higher have just been eating too much fast food and cutting it out for a few months will make them drop in weight and be removed from the additional training.
on a side note, I am only 28% body fat. again, another example of images being deceiving.
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if you are trying to say amputees are still in shape while looking at me with all my limbs then I say dont judge a book by its cover. I'll tell you whats happened to me.
1. severely fractured L1-L3 vertebrae
2. my left hips ball joint is 1/2 the size of a normal one (basically, my hip looks like im 90 years old)
3. my knee caps on both legs are worn down to 1/2 the size of normal ones
4. my right ankle was broken
5. my right thumb was smashed
6. both my wrists are missing cartilage from various injuries to them (basically bone on bone friction in my left wrist)
7. my sternum is fractured and may never fully heal
8. my sciatic nerve on my left side hurts daily
9. my neck has issues (they still, to this day, have no idea what freezes my left neck muscle (prevents movement) or where the pulsing pain comes from
10. my elbows are worn down
11. my fingers are worn down
but go right ahead and compare me to an amputee. I'll just sit here like them and collect my massive va disability check every month. honestly, your post offended me.0 -
annette_15 wrote: »I mean.. not to be rude, but you certainly dont LOOK healthy, even if you might be... so I can see why your doctor is concerned
looks can be deceiving. other than being fat, I have no medical issues (blood pressure, disease, etc) other than the physical ones I sustained in the military, which are the main cause for me even becoming fat (hard to exercise when in pain and those things I do at the bottom are only recent...it took years to be able to achieve those (quite happy about it)).Im 35.3 BMI. I think I look more like between over weight and class I. Hell, from the front you can even see where my abs are/would be.
I can do 100 situps in two minutes, easily do 20 pullups, bench 200lbs, squat 200lbs, and bicycle (bad knees, cant run) 6 miles in 30 minutes all while looking like a fat slob. yet, that 35 makes my doctor say im unhealthy.
I think you're looking a things a little bit more positive than they actually are. You may have a reasonable condition, your strength is average for someone that works out. But you cannot deny that you're pretty overweight. (you are trying to lose 38 pounds, so i'm pretty sure you are aware of that)
When i was your posture* i figured i had enough of this crap and wanted to lose all of it, for my mobility, agility, self-respect and basically for my future.
Anyway, i wish you good luck in your journey, i hope you will shed that weight and feel even fitter!
*here's my 100 days post with pictures where i started at 34.1 bmi, http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10176614/100-days-of-mfp#latest
see above response. I agree that im fat but i'm not entirely at fault for it (one of the few who can legit say that).
Of course it's not your fault... http://themighty.com/2015/07/2photographer-captures-confidence-of-wounded-veterans-in-new-book/
i cant tell if youre trolling or being serious. not all amputees are 8% body fat and on the fat topic not all military are less than 10% body fat. Hell, the usa military dont even consider males with 25% body fat (female 31%) to be fat. If you can meet all the physical requirements at 25% body fat then the military doesnt care that youre 25%. however, if youre 27%, they will put you in additional training to lower the body fat (just more exercising...they dont control your food intake because it doesnt matter what you eat to them only what you burn). typically, soldiers who are 27% or higher have just been eating too much fast food and cutting it out for a few months will make them drop in weight and be removed from the additional training.
on a side note, I am only 28% body fat. again, another example of images being deceiving.
I'm referring to you saying you being overweight isn't entirely your fault because injuries/pain. There are people with big injuries that make it a priority. Ultimately it's a priority and a choice for the vast vast majority of people.
Where on earth did you get that I thought all military members are 8% body fat? And are you trolling?! 28% body fat what method got that result?0 -
annette_15 wrote: »I mean.. not to be rude, but you certainly dont LOOK healthy, even if you might be... so I can see why your doctor is concerned
looks can be deceiving. other than being fat, I have no medical issues (blood pressure, disease, etc) other than the physical ones I sustained in the military, which are the main cause for me even becoming fat (hard to exercise when in pain and those things I do at the bottom are only recent...it took years to be able to achieve those (quite happy about it)).Im 35.3 BMI. I think I look more like between over weight and class I. Hell, from the front you can even see where my abs are/would be.
I can do 100 situps in two minutes, easily do 20 pullups, bench 200lbs, squat 200lbs, and bicycle (bad knees, cant run) 6 miles in 30 minutes all while looking like a fat slob. yet, that 35 makes my doctor say im unhealthy.
I think you're looking a things a little bit more positive than they actually are. You may have a reasonable condition, your strength is average for someone that works out. But you cannot deny that you're pretty overweight. (you are trying to lose 38 pounds, so i'm pretty sure you are aware of that)
When i was your posture* i figured i had enough of this crap and wanted to lose all of it, for my mobility, agility, self-respect and basically for my future.
Anyway, i wish you good luck in your journey, i hope you will shed that weight and feel even fitter!
*here's my 100 days post with pictures where i started at 34.1 bmi, http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10176614/100-days-of-mfp#latest
see above response. I agree that im fat but i'm not entirely at fault for it (one of the few who can legit say that).
Of course it's not your fault... http://themighty.com/2015/07/2photographer-captures-confidence-of-wounded-veterans-in-new-book/
i cant tell if youre trolling or being serious. not all amputees are 8% body fat and on the fat topic not all military are less than 10% body fat. Hell, the usa military dont even consider males with 25% body fat (female 31%) to be fat. If you can meet all the physical requirements at 25% body fat then the military doesnt care that youre 25%. however, if youre 27%, they will put you in additional training to lower the body fat (just more exercising...they dont control your food intake because it doesnt matter what you eat to them only what you burn). typically, soldiers who are 27% or higher have just been eating too much fast food and cutting it out for a few months will make them drop in weight and be removed from the additional training.
on a side note, I am only 28% body fat. again, another example of images being deceiving.
I'm referring to you saying you being overweight isn't entirely your fault because injuries/pain. There are people with big injuries that make it a priority. Ultimately it's a priority and a choice for the vast vast majority of people.
Where on earth did you get that I thought all military members are 8% body fat? And are you trolling?! 28% body fat what method got that result?
All those people in those photos are 8/10% body fat. The va hospital checked my body fat last month.
Its a bit insulting what you're saying. You've obviously never been seriously injured to the point that simply standing up causes you pain for a decade. Amputees lose the limb, it hurts, and then it hurts while the end heals then it stops. some of them get phantom pain but its occasional, not constant like mine.
know what, not even going to bother with you other than posting what I have.
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annette_15 wrote: »I mean.. not to be rude, but you certainly dont LOOK healthy, even if you might be... so I can see why your doctor is concerned
looks can be deceiving. other than being fat, I have no medical issues (blood pressure, disease, etc) other than the physical ones I sustained in the military, which are the main cause for me even becoming fat (hard to exercise when in pain and those things I do at the bottom are only recent...it took years to be able to achieve those (quite happy about it)).Im 35.3 BMI. I think I look more like between over weight and class I. Hell, from the front you can even see where my abs are/would be.
I can do 100 situps in two minutes, easily do 20 pullups, bench 200lbs, squat 200lbs, and bicycle (bad knees, cant run) 6 miles in 30 minutes all while looking like a fat slob. yet, that 35 makes my doctor say im unhealthy.
I think you're looking a things a little bit more positive than they actually are. You may have a reasonable condition, your strength is average for someone that works out. But you cannot deny that you're pretty overweight. (you are trying to lose 38 pounds, so i'm pretty sure you are aware of that)
When i was your posture* i figured i had enough of this crap and wanted to lose all of it, for my mobility, agility, self-respect and basically for my future.
Anyway, i wish you good luck in your journey, i hope you will shed that weight and feel even fitter!
*here's my 100 days post with pictures where i started at 34.1 bmi, http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10176614/100-days-of-mfp#latest
see above response. I agree that im fat but i'm not entirely at fault for it (one of the few who can legit say that).
Of course it's not your fault... http://themighty.com/2015/07/2photographer-captures-confidence-of-wounded-veterans-in-new-book/
i cant tell if youre trolling or being serious. not all amputees are 8% body fat and on the fat topic not all military are less than 10% body fat. Hell, the usa military dont even consider males with 25% body fat (female 31%) to be fat. If you can meet all the physical requirements at 25% body fat then the military doesnt care that youre 25%. however, if youre 27%, they will put you in additional training to lower the body fat (just more exercising...they dont control your food intake because it doesnt matter what you eat to them only what you burn). typically, soldiers who are 27% or higher have just been eating too much fast food and cutting it out for a few months will make them drop in weight and be removed from the additional training.
on a side note, I am only 28% body fat. again, another example of images being deceiving.
I'm referring to you saying you being overweight isn't entirely your fault because injuries/pain. There are people with big injuries that make it a priority. Ultimately it's a priority and a choice for the vast vast majority of people.
Where on earth did you get that I thought all military members are 8% body fat? And are you trolling?! 28% body fat what method got that result?
All those people in those photos are 8/10% body fat. The va hospital checked my body fat last month.
Its a bit insulting what you're saying. You've obviously never been seriously injured to the point that simply standing up causes you pain for a decade. Amputees lose the limb, it hurts, and then it hurts while the end heals then it stops. some of them get phantom pain but its occasional, not constant like mine.
know what, not even going to bother with you other than posting what I have.
Amputees can have excruciating phantom limb pain. Still didn't say what method they used... And seeing as how you have no idea about my life you really can't say anything about what experiences I have or haven't had. I'm sure you're circumstances are special though. Everyone's personal circumstances always are.
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annette_15 wrote: »I mean.. not to be rude, but you certainly dont LOOK healthy, even if you might be... so I can see why your doctor is concerned
looks can be deceiving. other than being fat, I have no medical issues (blood pressure, disease, etc) other than the physical ones I sustained in the military, which are the main cause for me even becoming fat (hard to exercise when in pain and those things I do at the bottom are only recent...it took years to be able to achieve those (quite happy about it)).Im 35.3 BMI. I think I look more like between over weight and class I. Hell, from the front you can even see where my abs are/would be.
I can do 100 situps in two minutes, easily do 20 pullups, bench 200lbs, squat 200lbs, and bicycle (bad knees, cant run) 6 miles in 30 minutes all while looking like a fat slob. yet, that 35 makes my doctor say im unhealthy.
I think you're looking a things a little bit more positive than they actually are. You may have a reasonable condition, your strength is average for someone that works out. But you cannot deny that you're pretty overweight. (you are trying to lose 38 pounds, so i'm pretty sure you are aware of that)
When i was your posture* i figured i had enough of this crap and wanted to lose all of it, for my mobility, agility, self-respect and basically for my future.
Anyway, i wish you good luck in your journey, i hope you will shed that weight and feel even fitter!
*here's my 100 days post with pictures where i started at 34.1 bmi, http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10176614/100-days-of-mfp#latest
see above response. I agree that im fat but i'm not entirely at fault for it (one of the few who can legit say that).
Of course it's not your fault... http://themighty.com/2015/07/2photographer-captures-confidence-of-wounded-veterans-in-new-book/
i cant tell if youre trolling or being serious. not all amputees are 8% body fat and on the fat topic not all military are less than 10% body fat. Hell, the usa military dont even consider males with 25% body fat (female 31%) to be fat. If you can meet all the physical requirements at 25% body fat then the military doesnt care that youre 25%. however, if youre 27%, they will put you in additional training to lower the body fat (just more exercising...they dont control your food intake because it doesnt matter what you eat to them only what you burn). typically, soldiers who are 27% or higher have just been eating too much fast food and cutting it out for a few months will make them drop in weight and be removed from the additional training.
on a side note, I am only 28% body fat. again, another example of images being deceiving.
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if you are trying to say amputees are still in shape while looking at me with all my limbs then I say dont judge a book by its cover. I'll tell you whats happened to me.
1. severely fractured L1-L3 vertebrae
2. my left hips ball joint is 1/2 the size of a normal one (basically, my hip looks like im 90 years old)
3. my knee caps on both legs are worn down to 1/2 the size of normal ones
4. my right ankle was broken
5. my right thumb was smashed
6. both my wrists are missing cartilage from various injuries to them (basically bone on bone friction in my left wrist)
7. my sternum is fractured and may never fully heal
8. my sciatic nerve on my left side hurts daily
9. my neck has issues (they still, to this day, have no idea what freezes my left neck muscle (prevents movement) or where the pulsing pain comes from
10. my elbows are worn down
11. my fingers are worn down
but go right ahead and compare me to an amputee. I'll just sit here like them and collect my massive va disability check every month. honestly, your post offended me.
Not trying to be mean, but there is NO WAY you are 28% body fat...0 -
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themonstermash wrote: »annette_15 wrote: »I mean.. not to be rude, but you certainly dont LOOK healthy, even if you might be... so I can see why your doctor is concerned
looks can be deceiving. other than being fat, I have no medical issues (blood pressure, disease, etc) other than the physical ones I sustained in the military, which are the main cause for me even becoming fat (hard to exercise when in pain and those things I do at the bottom are only recent...it took years to be able to achieve those (quite happy about it)).Im 35.3 BMI. I think I look more like between over weight and class I. Hell, from the front you can even see where my abs are/would be.
I can do 100 situps in two minutes, easily do 20 pullups, bench 200lbs, squat 200lbs, and bicycle (bad knees, cant run) 6 miles in 30 minutes all while looking like a fat slob. yet, that 35 makes my doctor say im unhealthy.
I think you're looking a things a little bit more positive than they actually are. You may have a reasonable condition, your strength is average for someone that works out. But you cannot deny that you're pretty overweight. (you are trying to lose 38 pounds, so i'm pretty sure you are aware of that)
When i was your posture* i figured i had enough of this crap and wanted to lose all of it, for my mobility, agility, self-respect and basically for my future.
Anyway, i wish you good luck in your journey, i hope you will shed that weight and feel even fitter!
*here's my 100 days post with pictures where i started at 34.1 bmi, http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10176614/100-days-of-mfp#latest
see above response. I agree that im fat but i'm not entirely at fault for it (one of the few who can legit say that).
Of course it's not your fault... http://themighty.com/2015/07/2photographer-captures-confidence-of-wounded-veterans-in-new-book/
i cant tell if youre trolling or being serious. not all amputees are 8% body fat and on the fat topic not all military are less than 10% body fat. Hell, the usa military dont even consider males with 25% body fat (female 31%) to be fat. If you can meet all the physical requirements at 25% body fat then the military doesnt care that youre 25%. however, if youre 27%, they will put you in additional training to lower the body fat (just more exercising...they dont control your food intake because it doesnt matter what you eat to them only what you burn). typically, soldiers who are 27% or higher have just been eating too much fast food and cutting it out for a few months will make them drop in weight and be removed from the additional training.
on a side note, I am only 28% body fat. again, another example of images being deceiving.
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if you are trying to say amputees are still in shape while looking at me with all my limbs then I say dont judge a book by its cover. I'll tell you whats happened to me.
1. severely fractured L1-L3 vertebrae
2. my left hips ball joint is 1/2 the size of a normal one (basically, my hip looks like im 90 years old)
3. my knee caps on both legs are worn down to 1/2 the size of normal ones
4. my right ankle was broken
5. my right thumb was smashed
6. both my wrists are missing cartilage from various injuries to them (basically bone on bone friction in my left wrist)
7. my sternum is fractured and may never fully heal
8. my sciatic nerve on my left side hurts daily
9. my neck has issues (they still, to this day, have no idea what freezes my left neck muscle (prevents movement) or where the pulsing pain comes from
10. my elbows are worn down
11. my fingers are worn down
but go right ahead and compare me to an amputee. I'll just sit here like them and collect my massive va disability check every month. honestly, your post offended me.
Not trying to be mean, but there is NO WAY you are 28% body fat...
Believe what you want then. Ill believe my doctor.
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annette_15 wrote: »I mean.. not to be rude, but you certainly dont LOOK healthy, even if you might be... so I can see why your doctor is concerned
looks can be deceiving. other than being fat, I have no medical issues (blood pressure, disease, etc) other than the physical ones I sustained in the military, which are the main cause for me even becoming fat (hard to exercise when in pain and those things I do at the bottom are only recent...it took years to be able to achieve those (quite happy about it)).Im 35.3 BMI. I think I look more like between over weight and class I. Hell, from the front you can even see where my abs are/would be.
I can do 100 situps in two minutes, easily do 20 pullups, bench 200lbs, squat 200lbs, and bicycle (bad knees, cant run) 6 miles in 30 minutes all while looking like a fat slob. yet, that 35 makes my doctor say im unhealthy.
I think you're looking a things a little bit more positive than they actually are. You may have a reasonable condition, your strength is average for someone that works out. But you cannot deny that you're pretty overweight. (you are trying to lose 38 pounds, so i'm pretty sure you are aware of that)
When i was your posture* i figured i had enough of this crap and wanted to lose all of it, for my mobility, agility, self-respect and basically for my future.
Anyway, i wish you good luck in your journey, i hope you will shed that weight and feel even fitter!
*here's my 100 days post with pictures where i started at 34.1 bmi, http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10176614/100-days-of-mfp#latest
see above response. I agree that im fat but i'm not entirely at fault for it (one of the few who can legit say that).
Of course it's not your fault... http://themighty.com/2015/07/2photographer-captures-confidence-of-wounded-veterans-in-new-book/
i cant tell if youre trolling or being serious. not all amputees are 8% body fat and on the fat topic not all military are less than 10% body fat. Hell, the usa military dont even consider males with 25% body fat (female 31%) to be fat. If you can meet all the physical requirements at 25% body fat then the military doesnt care that youre 25%. however, if youre 27%, they will put you in additional training to lower the body fat (just more exercising...they dont control your food intake because it doesnt matter what you eat to them only what you burn). typically, soldiers who are 27% or higher have just been eating too much fast food and cutting it out for a few months will make them drop in weight and be removed from the additional training.
on a side note, I am only 28% body fat. again, another example of images being deceiving.
I'm referring to you saying you being overweight isn't entirely your fault because injuries/pain. There are people with big injuries that make it a priority. Ultimately it's a priority and a choice for the vast vast majority of people.
Where on earth did you get that I thought all military members are 8% body fat? And are you trolling?! 28% body fat what method got that result?
All those people in those photos are 8/10% body fat. The va hospital checked my body fat last month.
Its a bit insulting what you're saying. You've obviously never been seriously injured to the point that simply standing up causes you pain for a decade. Amputees lose the limb, it hurts, and then it hurts while the end heals then it stops. some of them get phantom pain but its occasional, not constant like mine.
know what, not even going to bother with you other than posting what I have.
You clearly don't know much about amputees. My friend is a bilateral amputee and had both of her legs removed below the knee about 12 years ago. She has been in and out of the hospital since with infections, plus her legs rub and tear hee skin which is very thin. She works very hard in the gym when she can, but it's definitely not easy for her.0 -
RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »Why have a BMI in the first place?
Why not judge each actual case on its own merits.
The whole idea is deeply flawed, but if you're going to create some mindless table, try using a better set of criteria including wrist and ankle circumference.
You have me curious, what do ankle and wrist measurements have to tell us? I've not read that before?
Your skeletal frame size. That's about it. And as far as I know, elbow breadth is more useful than either of those.
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