This absolutely sucks.
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What sucks is the pressure from your parents to lose 2lbs a week which seems a bit excessive at your current weight. You don't have to be a gym rat. Go on some walks, move more. Sounds like your calorie range is about right for your age, height, and goals. If you are losing .5 lbs a week, you are doing just fine.0
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You are probably eating a maintenance diet for 150 lbs. Try exercising more or eating fewer calories. Use MFP to help you.0
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Nerdycurls wrote: »The best thing to do is to ignore your parents and pay attention to what YOU do.
OP already did that, and is now in a position of needing to lose weight.
The hate-on for OP's parents is a bit ridiculous since none of you have any idea at all of the context.
I agree.
Think about it. How many times on MFP have we seen young people blame their parents for some aspect of their weight loss difficulties?
We've seen, "I live with my parents, and they buy the food". Right...so, since you're on MFP you're presumably over 18. Get a job and get your own food. I guess the people who post things like this are saying that their parents will only allow "parent purchased food" into the house. If their child brings in so much as one apple or half an almond they will be banished forever.
We've seen, "My parents only eat fast food/junk food and they force me to eat it with them". Well, if your parents are tying you down and forcing food down your throat, that sounds like a police matter.
I refuse to believe that ALL the parents of EVERY young adult who's ever posted here is so horrible that they won't let their kid bring their own food into the house, or that they won't let their kid add a few items to the weekly shopping list.
Look, I know that families can give us a lot of crap about our weight. I grew up with a mother for whom food was love. But when you become an adult, you take responsibility for yourself. Your parents can't force you to eat/not eat. They can't force you to exercise more or feel a certain way about yourself. It can be difficult to assert yourself, that's true. But if you can't/won't do it, that's on you.
As for the OP....maybe her parents are total *kitten*. Or maybe--just maybe--there's more to the story.0 -
Ignore what your parents are saying. I can't even image a parent being like that.
I started with your same stats. The reason your parents claim is rubbish is that at 5'2" and a weight that isn't very high, we simply do not burn enough naturally to lose 2 pounds a week in a way that won't drive us crazy with exercise and deprive us. Sucks being short but it is what it is lol. Aim for a pound a week at the most. It'll be a much smoother ride for you and allow you to eat a reasonable amount. .7 a week is a great start and around the rate at which I typically lost.0 -
Nerdycurls wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »espressoself wrote: »what types of foods are you eating? how much do you exercise?
Neither of these have to do with weight loss. Weight loss is calories in/calorie out to create a calorie deficit.
But they do have to do with health. Can't exactly eat 1,200 calories of pizza and chocolate...
Huh?
To lose weight, the only requirement for weight loss is a calorie deficit, but you can eat whatever you want that fits in your calorie goals. It might include pizza or chocolate, depends on the person.
What I am saying is a person cannot completely subsist off of chocolate and pizza. Is it healthy to have your entire day's worth of 1,200 cals come from pizza and chocolate? Think about the ramifications of what it does to your body. I remember Rush Limbaugh tried to "debunk" some ideas of health and weight loss by citing an anecdotal quasiexperiment someone performed on himself. The guy ate sweets and junk, while limiting his cals, and then lost weight and cited it was just about the calories. Anyone who consistently eats that way will alter their blood sugar levels, leading to insulin problems, and continued havoc on their body.
Pizza has veggies, meat, sometimes fruit, tomato sauce, cheese, bread, seasoning, etc......how is that unhealthy??
Chocolate come from cocoa beans which came from a plant. Duhh.0 -
Nerdycurls wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »espressoself wrote: »what types of foods are you eating? how much do you exercise?
Neither of these have to do with weight loss. Weight loss is calories in/calorie out to create a calorie deficit.
But they do have to do with health. Can't exactly eat 1,200 calories of pizza and chocolate...
Huh?
To lose weight, the only requirement for weight loss is a calorie deficit, but you can eat whatever you want that fits in your calorie goals. It might include pizza or chocolate, depends on the person.
What I am saying is a person cannot completely subsist off of chocolate and pizza. Is it healthy to have your entire day's worth of 1,200 cals come from pizza and chocolate? Think about the ramifications of what it does to your body. I remember Rush Limbaugh tried to "debunk" some ideas of health and weight loss by citing an anecdotal quasiexperiment someone performed on himself. The guy ate sweets and junk, while limiting his cals, and then lost weight and cited it was just about the calories. Anyone who consistently eats that way will alter their blood sugar levels, leading to insulin problems, and continued havoc on their body.
I eat chocolate every single day, I have lost 121 pounds and been maintaining for 10 months, reverse my heart disease and excellent blood work, per my doctor says I am perfect health for my age. I must be a medical miracle, lol.
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Nerdycurls wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »espressoself wrote: »what types of foods are you eating? how much do you exercise?
Neither of these have to do with weight loss. Weight loss is calories in/calorie out to create a calorie deficit.
But they do have to do with health. Can't exactly eat 1,200 calories of pizza and chocolate...
Huh?
To lose weight, the only requirement for weight loss is a calorie deficit, but you can eat whatever you want that fits in your calorie goals. It might include pizza or chocolate, depends on the person.
What I am saying is a person cannot completely subsist off of chocolate and pizza. Is it healthy to have your entire day's worth of 1,200 cals come from pizza and chocolate? Think about the ramifications of what it does to your body. I remember Rush Limbaugh tried to "debunk" some ideas of health and weight loss by citing an anecdotal quasiexperiment someone performed on himself. The guy ate sweets and junk, while limiting his cals, and then lost weight and cited it was just about the calories. Anyone who consistently eats that way will alter their blood sugar levels, leading to insulin problems, and continued havoc on their body.
I eat chocolate every single day, I have lost 121 pounds and been maintaining for 10 months, reverse my heart disease and excellent blood work, per my doctor says I am perfect health for my age. I must be a medical miracle, lol.
I think you're missing the point.
The majority of "junk food"-- such as the typical oil-laden pizza or sweets full of sugar isn't sustainable to eat as a meal, for every meal, of every day. Sure you can have a small piece of chocolate every day-- but is your entire meal chocolate? Are all of your meals the typical Standard American Diet??? I doubt it!
What is WITH people at MFP deliberately missing the point of people's posts, especially if there is disagreement? Damn.
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What is it WITH people who think that when people say, "I eat chocolate/have a treat every day" they think it means "I eat nothing but chocolate and sweets all day, every day"?
I have one--ONE--square of Ghirardelli chocolate every day. In addition to fruit, vegetables, lean protein. But I guess that with that one square I am DOOMED.0 -
booksandchocolate12 wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »The best thing to do is to ignore your parents and pay attention to what YOU do.
OP already did that, and is now in a position of needing to lose weight.
The hate-on for OP's parents is a bit ridiculous since none of you have any idea at all of the context.
I agree.
Think about it. How many times on MFP have we seen young people blame their parents for some aspect of their weight loss difficulties?
We've seen, "I live with my parents, and they buy the food". Right...so, since you're on MFP you're presumably over 18. Get a job and get your own food. I guess the people who post things like this are saying that their parents will only allow "parent purchased food" into the house. If their child brings in so much as one apple or half an almond they will be banished forever.
We've seen, "My parents only eat fast food/junk food and they force me to eat it with them". Well, if your parents are tying you down and forcing food down your throat, that sounds like a police matter.
I refuse to believe that ALL the parents of EVERY young adult who's ever posted here is so horrible that they won't let their kid bring their own food into the house, or that they won't let their kid add a few items to the weekly shopping list.
Look, I know that families can give us a lot of crap about our weight. I grew up with a mother for whom food was love. But when you become an adult, you take responsibility for yourself. Your parents can't force you to eat/not eat. They can't force you to exercise more or feel a certain way about yourself. It can be difficult to assert yourself, that's true. But if you can't/won't do it, that's on you.
As for the OP....maybe her parents are total *kitten*. Or maybe--just maybe--there's more to the story.
The basic idea here is that living with people can make weight loss difficult. We've all seen this post in some shape or another. The husband didn't like it, the boyfriend didn't like it, the parents, etc. We all took what the OP told us, just as we have in any other scenario with similar posts. The OP said multiple times the parents are expecting a 2 pound weight loss every week and then complain about not seeing the results. The fact here is the parents are expecting to see results, but it's not their body. The OP wasn't blaming the parents for the lack of results. There were complaints about not being able to meet their expectations.0 -
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Nerdycurls wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »espressoself wrote: »what types of foods are you eating? how much do you exercise?
Neither of these have to do with weight loss. Weight loss is calories in/calorie out to create a calorie deficit.
But they do have to do with health. Can't exactly eat 1,200 calories of pizza and chocolate...
Huh?
To lose weight, the only requirement for weight loss is a calorie deficit, but you can eat whatever you want that fits in your calorie goals. It might include pizza or chocolate, depends on the person.
What I am saying is a person cannot completely subsist off of chocolate and pizza. Is it healthy to have your entire day's worth of 1,200 cals come from pizza and chocolate? Think about the ramifications of what it does to your body. I remember Rush Limbaugh tried to "debunk" some ideas of health and weight loss by citing an anecdotal quasiexperiment someone performed on himself. The guy ate sweets and junk, while limiting his cals, and then lost weight and cited it was just about the calories. Anyone who consistently eats that way will alter their blood sugar levels, leading to insulin problems, and continued havoc on their body.
I eat chocolate every single day, I have lost 121 pounds and been maintaining for 10 months, reverse my heart disease and excellent blood work, per my doctor says I am perfect health for my age. I must be a medical miracle, lol.
I think you're missing the point.
The majority of "junk food"-- such as the typical oil-laden pizza or sweets full of sugar isn't sustainable to eat as a meal, for every meal, of every day. Sure you can have a small piece of chocolate every day-- but is your entire meal chocolate? Are all of your meals the typical Standard American Diet??? I doubt it!
What is WITH people at MFP deliberately missing the point of people's posts, especially if there is disagreement? Damn.
The SAD is bad but it's not "chocolate and pizza for every meal every day", and no one NOWHERE advocates eating like that.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »espressoself wrote: »what types of foods are you eating? how much do you exercise?
Neither of these have to do with weight loss. Weight loss is calories in/calorie out to create a calorie deficit.
But they do have to do with health. Can't exactly eat 1,200 calories of pizza and chocolate...
Huh?
To lose weight, the only requirement for weight loss is a calorie deficit, but you can eat whatever you want that fits in your calorie goals. It might include pizza or chocolate, depends on the person.
What I am saying is a person cannot completely subsist off of chocolate and pizza. Is it healthy to have your entire day's worth of 1,200 cals come from pizza and chocolate? Think about the ramifications of what it does to your body. I remember Rush Limbaugh tried to "debunk" some ideas of health and weight loss by citing an anecdotal quasiexperiment someone performed on himself. The guy ate sweets and junk, while limiting his cals, and then lost weight and cited it was just about the calories. Anyone who consistently eats that way will alter their blood sugar levels, leading to insulin problems, and continued havoc on their body.
I eat chocolate every single day, I have lost 121 pounds and been maintaining for 10 months, reverse my heart disease and excellent blood work, per my doctor says I am perfect health for my age. I must be a medical miracle, lol.
I think you're missing the point.
The majority of "junk food"-- such as the typical oil-laden pizza or sweets full of sugar isn't sustainable to eat as a meal, for every meal, of every day. Sure you can have a small piece of chocolate every day-- but is your entire meal chocolate? Are all of your meals the typical Standard American Diet??? I doubt it!
What is WITH people at MFP deliberately missing the point of people's posts, especially if there is disagreement? Damn.
The SAD is bad but it's not "chocolate and pizza for every meal every day", and no one NOWHERE advocates eating like that.
Okay-- my point was people still need to eat healthily and not just use "calories in, calories out" as some way to justify eating that way.
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Nerdycurls wrote: »booksandchocolate12 wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »The best thing to do is to ignore your parents and pay attention to what YOU do.
OP already did that, and is now in a position of needing to lose weight.
The hate-on for OP's parents is a bit ridiculous since none of you have any idea at all of the context.
I agree.
Think about it. How many times on MFP have we seen young people blame their parents for some aspect of their weight loss difficulties?
We've seen, "I live with my parents, and they buy the food". Right...so, since you're on MFP you're presumably over 18. Get a job and get your own food. I guess the people who post things like this are saying that their parents will only allow "parent purchased food" into the house. If their child brings in so much as one apple or half an almond they will be banished forever.
We've seen, "My parents only eat fast food/junk food and they force me to eat it with them". Well, if your parents are tying you down and forcing food down your throat, that sounds like a police matter.
I refuse to believe that ALL the parents of EVERY young adult who's ever posted here is so horrible that they won't let their kid bring their own food into the house, or that they won't let their kid add a few items to the weekly shopping list.
Look, I know that families can give us a lot of crap about our weight. I grew up with a mother for whom food was love. But when you become an adult, you take responsibility for yourself. Your parents can't force you to eat/not eat. They can't force you to exercise more or feel a certain way about yourself. It can be difficult to assert yourself, that's true. But if you can't/won't do it, that's on you.
As for the OP....maybe her parents are total *kitten*. Or maybe--just maybe--there's more to the story.
The basic idea here is that living with people can make weight loss difficult. We've all seen this post in some shape or another. The husband didn't like it, the boyfriend didn't like it, the parents, etc. We all took what the OP told us, just as we have in any other scenario with similar posts. The OP said multiple times the parents are expecting a 2 pound weight loss every week and then complain about not seeing the results. The fact here is the parents are expecting to see results, but it's not their body. The OP wasn't blaming the parents for the lack of results. There were complaints about not being able to meet their expectations.
I know that in my examples, people were blaming parents for lack of results, and in the OP's case, she was upset at her parents' expectations.
My point was that if you believe every young adult who posts on MFP, all parents are in some way a hindrance to weight loss. They're saboteurs, they're unsupportive, they're unreasonable. My guess is that the truth is somewhere in between "Unreasonable monster" and "Totally supportive and helpful".
Maybe her parents aren't a--holes as people keep saying. Maybe they need a bit of education about weight loss.
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Nerdycurls wrote: »Okay-- my point was people still need to eat healthily and not just use "calories in, calories out" as some way to justify eating that way.Nerdycurls wrote: »What is WITH people at MFP deliberately missing the point of people's posts, especially if there is disagreement? Damn.
Have you seen anyone here taking the position, let alone advocating the position, that CICO justifies eating a poor overall diet?-1 -
DeguelloTex wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »Okay-- my point was people still need to eat healthily and not just use "calories in, calories out" as some way to justify eating that way.Nerdycurls wrote: »What is WITH people at MFP deliberately missing the point of people's posts, especially if there is disagreement? Damn.
Have you seen anyone here taking the position, let alone advocating the position, that CICO justifies eating a poor overall diet?
People have asked "what are you eating," to which others reply "that doesn't matter, it's calories in and calories out." A balanced, healthy diet needs to be coupled with weight loss but often what I see here is they are treated separately.0 -
Nerdycurls wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »espressoself wrote: »what types of foods are you eating? how much do you exercise?
Neither of these have to do with weight loss. Weight loss is calories in/calorie out to create a calorie deficit.
But they do have to do with health. Can't exactly eat 1,200 calories of pizza and chocolate...
Huh?
To lose weight, the only requirement for weight loss is a calorie deficit, but you can eat whatever you want that fits in your calorie goals. It might include pizza or chocolate, depends on the person.
What I am saying is a person cannot completely subsist off of chocolate and pizza. Is it healthy to have your entire day's worth of 1,200 cals come from pizza and chocolate? Think about the ramifications of what it does to your body. I remember Rush Limbaugh tried to "debunk" some ideas of health and weight loss by citing an anecdotal quasiexperiment someone performed on himself. The guy ate sweets and junk, while limiting his cals, and then lost weight and cited it was just about the calories. Anyone who consistently eats that way will alter their blood sugar levels, leading to insulin problems, and continued havoc on their body.
I eat chocolate every single day, I have lost 121 pounds and been maintaining for 10 months, reverse my heart disease and excellent blood work, per my doctor says I am perfect health for my age. I must be a medical miracle, lol.
I think you're missing the point.
The majority of "junk food"-- such as the typical oil-laden pizza or sweets full of sugar isn't sustainable to eat as a meal, for every meal, of every day. Sure you can have a small piece of chocolate every day-- but is your entire meal chocolate? Are all of your meals the typical Standard American Diet??? I doubt it!
What is WITH people at MFP deliberately missing the point of people's posts, especially if there is disagreement? Damn.
The SAD is bad but it's not "chocolate and pizza for every meal every day", and no one NOWHERE advocates eating like that.
Okay-- my point was people still need to eat healthily and not just use "calories in, calories out" as some way to justify eating that way.
People on here generally don't do that. And no one on this site recommends eating that way.
Bringing it up as an argument to say that "CI/CO is not all that matters!" is a strawman.0 -
So, no?Nerdycurls wrote: »DeguelloTex wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »Okay-- my point was people still need to eat healthily and not just use "calories in, calories out" as some way to justify eating that way.Nerdycurls wrote: »What is WITH people at MFP deliberately missing the point of people's posts, especially if there is disagreement? Damn.
Have you seen anyone here taking the position, let alone advocating the position, that CICO justifies eating a poor overall diet?
People have asked "what are you eating," to which others reply "that doesn't matter, it's calories in and calories out." A balanced, healthy diet needs to be coupled with weight loss but often what I see here is they are treated separately.
What I see here almost every single time is something very along the lines of, "For weight loss, only calories matter. For health, macros and micros matter." To the extent the second sentence is excluded, it's almost always in the context of "Can I eat X and still lose weight?"-type discussions.
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Few tips: Drink a good amount of water, eat a good amount of fibre, get 8+ hours of good sleep these help your body function correctly. Do cardio on an empty stomach to help burn fat, eating first you get an insulin spike that disrupts the process. And yes all that is easy said than done, oh yes and the only person you should be doing any of this for is you.0
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graytuxedos wrote: »Thanks for all the responses!
Yeah, I know that it's considered to be a good weight loss for this short amount of time. I'm 5'2'' btw. The thing is, my parents expect me to lose like two pounds a week. I try to eat healthy, food scale and all, the whole food pyramid taken into consideration. Vegetables and fruits and my type of thing and I've cut down my portion size a lot recently. I exercise almost daily, save maybe one or two days.
My parents just expect me to lose a lot more and they complain every single day that I never do enough exercise when I actually do try.
Are you living with your parents? Do they pay for your living expenses? Do they have jurisdiction over you? If so, you are stuck until you can make it on your own. However, they can pester you to death and you don't have to give them results. Grow up and out of your parents house, or suck it up. You don't have many choices here.0 -
chrisfwood wrote: »Do cardio on an empty stomach to help burn fat, eating first you get an insulin spike that disrupts the process.
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Nerdycurls wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »The best thing to do is to ignore your parents and pay attention to what YOU do.
OP already did that, and is now in a position of needing to lose weight.
The hate-on for OP's parents is a bit ridiculous since none of you have any idea at all of the context.
It's funny how you describe it as hate on when the OP has clearly stated the parents expect a 2 pound weight loss every week and then criticize the amount of exercise. Because we all know, those things are healthy expectations and are overwhelmingly conducive to weight loss.
I'm not particularly sure why you must think the parents were so helpful in the first place, because parents are supposed to be paying attention to their children's eating habits and encouraging balanced lifestyles. This is probably due to their neglect in the first place and now they are doubling up on the pressure.
That's quite a good psychoanalsis.0 -
Nerdycurls wrote: »espressoself wrote: »what types of foods are you eating? how much do you exercise?
Neither of these have to do with weight loss. Weight loss is calories in/calorie out to create a calorie deficit.
But they do have to do with health. Can't exactly eat 1,200 calories of pizza and chocolate...
Of course you can.0 -
Nerdycurls wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »espressoself wrote: »what types of foods are you eating? how much do you exercise?
Neither of these have to do with weight loss. Weight loss is calories in/calorie out to create a calorie deficit.
But they do have to do with health. Can't exactly eat 1,200 calories of pizza and chocolate...
Huh?
To lose weight, the only requirement for weight loss is a calorie deficit, but you can eat whatever you want that fits in your calorie goals. It might include pizza or chocolate, depends on the person.
What I am saying is a person cannot completely subsist off of chocolate and pizza. Is it healthy to have your entire day's worth of 1,200 cals come from pizza and chocolate? Think about the ramifications of what it does to your body. I remember Rush Limbaugh tried to "debunk" some ideas of health and weight loss by citing an anecdotal quasiexperiment someone performed on himself. The guy ate sweets and junk, while limiting his cals, and then lost weight and cited it was just about the calories. Anyone who consistently eats that way will alter their blood sugar levels, leading to insulin problems, and continued havoc on their body.
I eat chocolate every single day, I have lost 121 pounds and been maintaining for 10 months, reverse my heart disease and excellent blood work, per my doctor says I am perfect health for my age. I must be a medical miracle, lol.
I think you're missing the point.
The majority of "junk food"-- such as the typical oil-laden pizza or sweets full of sugar isn't sustainable to eat as a meal, for every meal, of every day. Sure you can have a small piece of chocolate every day-- but is your entire meal chocolate? Are all of your meals the typical Standard American Diet??? I doubt it!
What is WITH people at MFP deliberately missing the point of people's posts, especially if there is disagreement? Damn.
No you missed the boat. See below.Nerdycurls wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »espressoself wrote: »what types of foods are you eating? how much do you exercise?
Neither of these have to do with weight loss. Weight loss is calories in/calorie out to create a calorie deficit.
But they do have to do with health. Can't exactly eat 1,200 calories of pizza and chocolate...
Huh?
To lose weight, the only requirement for weight loss is a calorie deficit, but you can eat whatever you want that fits in your calorie goals. It might include pizza or chocolate, depends on the person.
What I am saying is a person cannot completely subsist off of chocolate and pizza. Is it healthy to have your entire day's worth of 1,200 cals come from pizza and chocolate? Think about the ramifications of what it does to your body. I remember Rush Limbaugh tried to "debunk" some ideas of health and weight loss by citing an anecdotal quasiexperiment someone performed on himself. The guy ate sweets and junk, while limiting his cals, and then lost weight and cited it was just about the calories. Anyone who consistently eats that way will alter their blood sugar levels, leading to insulin problems, and continued havoc on their body.
Pizza has veggies, meat, sometimes fruit, tomato sauce, cheese, bread, seasoning, etc......how is that unhealthy??
Chocolate come from cocoa beans which came from a plant. Duhh.
In the end we will see who is right and who is wrong.
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Nerdycurls wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »espressoself wrote: »what types of foods are you eating? how much do you exercise?
Neither of these have to do with weight loss. Weight loss is calories in/calorie out to create a calorie deficit.
But they do have to do with health. Can't exactly eat 1,200 calories of pizza and chocolate...
Huh?
To lose weight, the only requirement for weight loss is a calorie deficit, but you can eat whatever you want that fits in your calorie goals. It might include pizza or chocolate, depends on the person.
What I am saying is a person cannot completely subsist off of chocolate and pizza. Is it healthy to have your entire day's worth of 1,200 cals come from pizza and chocolate? Think about the ramifications of what it does to your body. I remember Rush Limbaugh tried to "debunk" some ideas of health and weight loss by citing an anecdotal quasiexperiment someone performed on himself. The guy ate sweets and junk, while limiting his cals, and then lost weight and cited it was just about the calories. Anyone who consistently eats that way will alter their blood sugar levels, leading to insulin problems, and continued havoc on their body.
I eat chocolate every single day, I have lost 121 pounds and been maintaining for 10 months, reverse my heart disease and excellent blood work, per my doctor says I am perfect health for my age. I must be a medical miracle, lol.
I think you're missing the point.
The majority of "junk food"-- such as the typical oil-laden pizza or sweets full of sugar isn't sustainable to eat as a meal, for every meal, of every day. Sure you can have a small piece of chocolate every day-- but is your entire meal chocolate? Are all of your meals the typical Standard American Diet??? I doubt it!
What is WITH people at MFP deliberately missing the point of people's posts, especially if there is disagreement? Damn.
No you missed the boat. See below.Nerdycurls wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »espressoself wrote: »what types of foods are you eating? how much do you exercise?
Neither of these have to do with weight loss. Weight loss is calories in/calorie out to create a calorie deficit.
But they do have to do with health. Can't exactly eat 1,200 calories of pizza and chocolate...
Huh?
To lose weight, the only requirement for weight loss is a calorie deficit, but you can eat whatever you want that fits in your calorie goals. It might include pizza or chocolate, depends on the person.
What I am saying is a person cannot completely subsist off of chocolate and pizza. Is it healthy to have your entire day's worth of 1,200 cals come from pizza and chocolate? Think about the ramifications of what it does to your body. I remember Rush Limbaugh tried to "debunk" some ideas of health and weight loss by citing an anecdotal quasiexperiment someone performed on himself. The guy ate sweets and junk, while limiting his cals, and then lost weight and cited it was just about the calories. Anyone who consistently eats that way will alter their blood sugar levels, leading to insulin problems, and continued havoc on their body.
Pizza has veggies, meat, sometimes fruit, tomato sauce, cheese, bread, seasoning, etc......how is that unhealthy??
Chocolate come from cocoa beans which came from a plant. Duhh.
In the end we will see who is right and who is wrong.
Have a great day.
Nah, Serah, we will never see who is right or wrong. Most of them will leave MFP for one reason or another. Only WE know if our hard work pays off, and guess what? WE are the only people who really matter whether it does or not!0 -
atypicalsmith wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »espressoself wrote: »what types of foods are you eating? how much do you exercise?
Neither of these have to do with weight loss. Weight loss is calories in/calorie out to create a calorie deficit.
But they do have to do with health. Can't exactly eat 1,200 calories of pizza and chocolate...
Huh?
To lose weight, the only requirement for weight loss is a calorie deficit, but you can eat whatever you want that fits in your calorie goals. It might include pizza or chocolate, depends on the person.
What I am saying is a person cannot completely subsist off of chocolate and pizza. Is it healthy to have your entire day's worth of 1,200 cals come from pizza and chocolate? Think about the ramifications of what it does to your body. I remember Rush Limbaugh tried to "debunk" some ideas of health and weight loss by citing an anecdotal quasiexperiment someone performed on himself. The guy ate sweets and junk, while limiting his cals, and then lost weight and cited it was just about the calories. Anyone who consistently eats that way will alter their blood sugar levels, leading to insulin problems, and continued havoc on their body.
I eat chocolate every single day, I have lost 121 pounds and been maintaining for 10 months, reverse my heart disease and excellent blood work, per my doctor says I am perfect health for my age. I must be a medical miracle, lol.
I think you're missing the point.
The majority of "junk food"-- such as the typical oil-laden pizza or sweets full of sugar isn't sustainable to eat as a meal, for every meal, of every day. Sure you can have a small piece of chocolate every day-- but is your entire meal chocolate? Are all of your meals the typical Standard American Diet??? I doubt it!
What is WITH people at MFP deliberately missing the point of people's posts, especially if there is disagreement? Damn.
No you missed the boat. See below.Nerdycurls wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »espressoself wrote: »what types of foods are you eating? how much do you exercise?
Neither of these have to do with weight loss. Weight loss is calories in/calorie out to create a calorie deficit.
But they do have to do with health. Can't exactly eat 1,200 calories of pizza and chocolate...
Huh?
To lose weight, the only requirement for weight loss is a calorie deficit, but you can eat whatever you want that fits in your calorie goals. It might include pizza or chocolate, depends on the person.
What I am saying is a person cannot completely subsist off of chocolate and pizza. Is it healthy to have your entire day's worth of 1,200 cals come from pizza and chocolate? Think about the ramifications of what it does to your body. I remember Rush Limbaugh tried to "debunk" some ideas of health and weight loss by citing an anecdotal quasiexperiment someone performed on himself. The guy ate sweets and junk, while limiting his cals, and then lost weight and cited it was just about the calories. Anyone who consistently eats that way will alter their blood sugar levels, leading to insulin problems, and continued havoc on their body.
Pizza has veggies, meat, sometimes fruit, tomato sauce, cheese, bread, seasoning, etc......how is that unhealthy??
Chocolate come from cocoa beans which came from a plant. Duhh.
In the end we will see who is right and who is wrong.
Have a great day.
Nah, Serah, we will never see who is right or wrong. Most of them will leave MFP for one reason or another. Only WE know if our hard work pays off, and guess what? WE are the only people who really matter whether it does or not!
Agree, but wanted to say that. 0 -
Nerdycurls wrote: »DeguelloTex wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »Okay-- my point was people still need to eat healthily and not just use "calories in, calories out" as some way to justify eating that way.Nerdycurls wrote: »What is WITH people at MFP deliberately missing the point of people's posts, especially if there is disagreement? Damn.
Have you seen anyone here taking the position, let alone advocating the position, that CICO justifies eating a poor overall diet?
People have asked "what are you eating," to which others reply "that doesn't matter, it's calories in and calories out." A balanced, healthy diet needs to be coupled with weight loss but often what I see here is they are treated separately.
Calories are calories. CICO is for WEIGHTLOSS, eating nutrient rich food is for HEALTH. Sure, it's best to do them both, but for people starting out, it's the best place to start.0 -
atypicalsmith wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »espressoself wrote: »what types of foods are you eating? how much do you exercise?
Neither of these have to do with weight loss. Weight loss is calories in/calorie out to create a calorie deficit.
But they do have to do with health. Can't exactly eat 1,200 calories of pizza and chocolate...
Huh?
To lose weight, the only requirement for weight loss is a calorie deficit, but you can eat whatever you want that fits in your calorie goals. It might include pizza or chocolate, depends on the person.
What I am saying is a person cannot completely subsist off of chocolate and pizza. Is it healthy to have your entire day's worth of 1,200 cals come from pizza and chocolate? Think about the ramifications of what it does to your body. I remember Rush Limbaugh tried to "debunk" some ideas of health and weight loss by citing an anecdotal quasiexperiment someone performed on himself. The guy ate sweets and junk, while limiting his cals, and then lost weight and cited it was just about the calories. Anyone who consistently eats that way will alter their blood sugar levels, leading to insulin problems, and continued havoc on their body.
I eat chocolate every single day, I have lost 121 pounds and been maintaining for 10 months, reverse my heart disease and excellent blood work, per my doctor says I am perfect health for my age. I must be a medical miracle, lol.
I think you're missing the point.
The majority of "junk food"-- such as the typical oil-laden pizza or sweets full of sugar isn't sustainable to eat as a meal, for every meal, of every day. Sure you can have a small piece of chocolate every day-- but is your entire meal chocolate? Are all of your meals the typical Standard American Diet??? I doubt it!
What is WITH people at MFP deliberately missing the point of people's posts, especially if there is disagreement? Damn.
No you missed the boat. See below.Nerdycurls wrote: »Nerdycurls wrote: »espressoself wrote: »what types of foods are you eating? how much do you exercise?
Neither of these have to do with weight loss. Weight loss is calories in/calorie out to create a calorie deficit.
But they do have to do with health. Can't exactly eat 1,200 calories of pizza and chocolate...
Huh?
To lose weight, the only requirement for weight loss is a calorie deficit, but you can eat whatever you want that fits in your calorie goals. It might include pizza or chocolate, depends on the person.
What I am saying is a person cannot completely subsist off of chocolate and pizza. Is it healthy to have your entire day's worth of 1,200 cals come from pizza and chocolate? Think about the ramifications of what it does to your body. I remember Rush Limbaugh tried to "debunk" some ideas of health and weight loss by citing an anecdotal quasiexperiment someone performed on himself. The guy ate sweets and junk, while limiting his cals, and then lost weight and cited it was just about the calories. Anyone who consistently eats that way will alter their blood sugar levels, leading to insulin problems, and continued havoc on their body.
Pizza has veggies, meat, sometimes fruit, tomato sauce, cheese, bread, seasoning, etc......how is that unhealthy??
Chocolate come from cocoa beans which came from a plant. Duhh.
In the end we will see who is right and who is wrong.
Have a great day.
Nah, Serah, we will never see who is right or wrong. Most of them will leave MFP for one reason or another. Only WE know if our hard work pays off, and guess what? WE are the only people who really matter whether it does or not!
Agree, but wanted to say that.
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If the op has to rely 100% on her parents for food, then there is not much she can do, other than to try and convince them to bring healthier foods into the house.
The reason I even commented on this thread at all is because I just got back from the grocery store, and in front of me at the checkout was a morbidly obese woman accompanied by her obese children.
Their trolley was piled high with food, the only fresh food in it were bananas and potatoes. The rest was literally ALL junk food and microwave meals!
These kids don't stand much of a chance while living under her roof. And if they continue on, by the time they leave home they too will be morbidly obese, and their independent new life will be made harder because of their weight.
Sorry about the rant, but I left the store just fuming
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