Whole Foods Eating/Gluten Free
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OP- in my opinion, natural, unnatural, gmo's, franken-wheat,fast food vs slow food, organics... etc are a red herring. The real problem is over consumption of calories. If you choose to avoid gluten, then feel free. But unless you have celiac disease, its not necessary or advisable.0
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Yes! I am vegetarian and try to be gluten-free and dairy free. Gulten-free is fairly easy, dairy-free is not because I do like a good block of cheese and yogurt and I get paranoid about protein levels and gut bacteria. But I feel a lot better off dairy (esp since its really hard to find organic dairy around here) so I need to have that discipline again. I eat no added sugar - because I am a green tea drinker. I also make my own water kefir sometimes but I ruined my culture so I am recently out. Happy to share recipes but it may seem boring! I eat standard home-cooked Indian vegetarian food except it's all organic and brown rice and veggies, and no frying involved. I also eat lots of fruits.
Indian lentils - 'dals' are useful and can be made to taste quite good. Ditto cooked garbanzo beans - can be flavoured any way you like. Rice and lentils together complement eah other and give you the full range of amino acids.
I also soak mung beans and millets overnight, chuck the water, and then grind it down to a batter, and make crepes out of it. Quite good with a little cilantro-garlic chutney on the side.
I don't think we need wheat and dairy, honestly!0 -
I have been cooking some Indian food (thanks to my awesome roommate) and instead of rice, I use kelp noodles...so delicious! Your mung beans and millet crepes sounds interesting. I do miss pancakes, so I tend to buy gluten free pancake mix, (which I know is high in glycemic index, but I need a treat once in a while)
I can survive w/o dairy, but the half and half in my coffee is hard to kick.
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TenaciousTAZ wrote: »I don't care if a doc diagnoses me or not.....I don't feel good eating gluten, so I don't eat it. Loaded with junk means processed foods with things that have more than 3 syllables, or things with food dye which is totally unnecessary. (like why does hot sauce or pickle relish really need food dye?)
I do what I can, and have created a lot of recipes that I feel good when I eat it. When I eat things with "junk" I'm lethargic and cranky. It is just a challenge, is all. I have been off gluten for the past 3 weeks and feel great. (Unlike the 2 months where I just didn't care) And the gluten could spike my blood sugar as well (hence lethargy)
It is just hard to socialize when restaurants usually use the cheapest ingredients possible. Restaurants hit the pocketbook anyway, so it's not bad.
Thanks for the tip on Yummely. It might give me more diversity in my meals!
So... do you avoid soy sauce? Chicken broth? Soup? Rice made in most restaurants? Shredded cheese? (even the parmesan cheese?) Sauces?
Because all of those things have gluten in them. (as does pretty much anything with modified food starch in it)
Speaking of three syllables, do you avoid any food with sodium bicarbonate in it?0 -
itsbasschick wrote: »to the OP - in what way do you feel bad after eating bread and other such things?
LAT1963 - the new healthcare law is helpful, but i suspect a lot of people will find the costs challenging. my son pays over $300 a month for his insurance, has high copays ($50 for his primary, $75 for specialist) and isn't eligible for any assistance. he paid like $500 in copays his first month plus premium.
Totally agree with this. Everyone can get an insurance plan now, but the cost is very high and some people still can't afford it.
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melimomTARDIS wrote: »OP- in my opinion, natural, unnatural, gmo's, franken-wheat,fast food vs slow food, organics... etc are a red herring. The real problem is over consumption of calories. If you choose to avoid gluten, then feel free. But unless you have celiac disease, its not necessary or advisable.
I think my body really has a hard time with processed carbs. Even when I eat more calories with whole feeds, I don't gain weight like processed carbs. I believe that has to do with blood sugar regulation. Whole foods with a balance of carb, protein, fat don't spike the blood sugar like a box of cereal! It could also be that whole foods fill me up more, whereas junk food just makes me hungry.
Who knows? I listen to my body, and my body does well on whole foods, grass fed meat, and a few hiccups of processed stuff here and there. Most doctors are not very educated on nutrition. They can diagnose, but not solve the issue.
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TenaciousTAZ wrote: »melimomTARDIS wrote: »OP- in my opinion, natural, unnatural, gmo's, franken-wheat,fast food vs slow food, organics... etc are a red herring. The real problem is over consumption of calories. If you choose to avoid gluten, then feel free. But unless you have celiac disease, its not necessary or advisable.
I think my body really has a hard time with processed carbs. Even when I eat more calories with whole feeds, I don't gain weight like processed carbs. I believe that has to do with blood sugar regulation. Whole foods with a balance of carb, protein, fat don't spike the blood sugar like a box of cereal! It could also be that whole foods fill me up more, whereas junk food just makes me hungry.
Who knows? I listen to my body, and my body does well on whole foods, grass fed meat, and a few hiccups of processed stuff here and there. Most doctors are not very educated on nutrition. They can diagnose, but not solve the issue.
Gaining weight has nothing to do with what type of food you are eating, it has to do with how many calories you are eating. If you are gaining weight, you are eating too many calories, period. Are you weighing all of your food and logging your calories, keeping to a calorie deficit?
First you thought gluten was your problem, now your problem is 'processed food'? None of that is your problem. You need to buy a food scale and weigh your food, and keep yourself below a calorie deficit. You'll lose weight.0 -
But, that's the very reason you should go to the doctor. Many people who are intolerant to gluten have celiac disease, which can cause death if not treated properly. [/quote]
To test for celiac disease you have to eat a gluten diet.....no can do....sorry but I don't trust doctors....they have my mom strung up on pills like she was a drug addict.
My acupuncturist is also a homeopathic doc, so I consult her if needed. I appreciate your concern, just not really happy with our society over drugging it's patients.
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Gaining weight has nothing to do with what type of food you are eating, it has to do with how many calories you are eating. If you are gaining weight, you are eating too many calories, period. Are you weighing all of your food and logging your calories, keeping to a calorie deficit?
First you thought gluten was your problem, now your problem is 'processed food'? None of that is your problem. You need to buy a food scale and weigh your food, and keep yourself below a calorie deficit. You'll lose weight.[/quote]
Mindy, I know calories in, calories out...I lost 80 lbs. in 8 months, so I know it's a balance of what you eat and what you burn. I am just stating that gluten and processed foods do not do my body "good" and it is a challenge to find a diversity of recipes that support a whole foods approach.0 -
To test for celiac disease you have to eat a gluten diet.....no can do....sorry but I don't trust doctors....they have my mom strung up on pills like she was a drug addict.TenaciousTAZ wrote: »But, that's the very reason you should go to the doctor. Many people who are intolerant to gluten have celiac disease, which can cause death if not treated properly.
My acupuncturist is also a homeopathic doc, so I consult her if needed. I appreciate your concern, just not really happy with our society over drugging it's patients.
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You are wrong. To test for Celiac you don't eat a gluten diet. I have Celiac disease. There are genetic tests for it, as well as intestinal biopsies. And there are no pills for Celiac disease. Just a gluten-free diet, which I really don't think you understand. If you had Celiac disease, you wouldn't just 'not feel good' when you eat gluten. It makes you very ill, for days.0 -
TenaciousTAZ wrote: »Loaded with junk means processed foods with things that have more than 3 syllables, or things with food dye which is totally unnecessary. (like why does hot sauce or pickle relish really need food dye?)
A couple of prime examples of some things with more than 3 syllables (total anyway): dihydrogen monoxide and sodium chloride.
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sheldonz42 wrote: »TenaciousTAZ wrote: »Loaded with junk means processed foods with things that have more than 3 syllables, or things with food dye which is totally unnecessary. (like why does hot sauce or pickle relish really need food dye?)
A couple of prime examples of some things with more than 3 syllables (total anyway): dihydrogen monoxide and sodium chloride.
lol
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So... do you avoid soy sauce? Chicken broth? Soup? Rice made in most restaurants? Shredded cheese? (even the parmesan cheese?) Sauces?
Because all of those things have gluten in them. (as does pretty much anything with modified food starch in it)
Speaking of three syllables, do you avoid any food with sodium bicarbonate in it?[/quote]
I make my own chicken stock/soup, don't use soy sauce, shredded cheese...barely eat rice, and make my own sauces....my pantry is pretty much coconut oil, nuts, spices....I try to avoid anything that sounds like a chemist made it! If you can hunt it, or pull it out of the ground then yeah that's me.
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I am not the one that said I had celiac disease...(some other post'r person did) All my darn post was to get support for alternative recipes that are whole foods based.....Guess I'm in the wrong place.0
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In my experience, people on MFP don't really take well to the demonization of foods, which is why you're getting these sorts of responses.
While you should eat in a way that makes you feel good, demonizing food dyes and things with more than three syllables won't get you far with many posters.0 -
TenaciousTAZ wrote: »
Gaining weight has nothing to do with what type of food you are eating, it has to do with how many calories you are eating. If you are gaining weight, you are eating too many calories, period. Are you weighing all of your food and logging your calories, keeping to a calorie deficit?
First you thought gluten was your problem, now your problem is 'processed food'? None of that is your problem. You need to buy a food scale and weigh your food, and keep yourself below a calorie deficit. You'll lose weight.[/quote]
Mindy, I know calories in, calories out...I lost 80 lbs. in 8 months, so I know it's a balance of what you eat and what you burn. I am just stating that gluten and processed foods do not do my body "good" and it is a challenge to find a diversity of recipes that support a whole foods approach. [/quote]
No, weight loss is about how much you eat and how much you burn. Weight loss has nothing to do with weight loss. In other words, in order to lose weight you have to eat at a calorie deficit.
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To test for celiac disease you have to eat a gluten diet.....no can do....sorry but I don't trust doctors....they have my mom strung up on pills like she was a drug addict.TenaciousTAZ wrote: »But, that's the very reason you should go to the doctor. Many people who are intolerant to gluten have celiac disease, which can cause death if not treated properly.
My acupuncturist is also a homeopathic doc, so I consult her if needed. I appreciate your concern, just not really happy with our society over drugging it's patients.
You are wrong. To test for Celiac you don't eat a gluten diet. I have Celiac disease. There are genetic tests for it, as well as intestinal biopsies. And there are no pills for Celiac disease. Just a gluten-free diet, which I really don't think you understand. If you had Celiac disease, you wouldn't just 'not feel good' when you eat gluten. It makes you very ill, for days.[/quote]
This is true. You get pretty darned sick. My SO's young cousin (I believe she was 11 at the time) was diagnosed with celiac disease after being really ill for days on end, and I believe she might have been in the hospital as well. The doctors said she had some serious problems from celiac, so it was good she was diagnosed then. Poor thing has to eat ALL gluten free, no exceptions, otherwise she could get very sick again and end up in the hospital.0 -
Oops Double post error.
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To test for celiac disease you have to eat a gluten diet.....no can do....sorry but I don't trust doctors....they have my mom strung up on pills like she was a drug addict.TenaciousTAZ wrote: »But, that's the very reason you should go to the doctor. Many people who are intolerant to gluten have celiac disease, which can cause death if not treated properly.
My acupuncturist is also a homeopathic doc, so I consult her if needed. I appreciate your concern, just not really happy with our society over drugging it's patients.
You are wrong. To test for Celiac you don't eat a gluten diet. I have Celiac disease. There are genetic tests for it, as well as intestinal biopsies. And there are no pills for Celiac disease. Just a gluten-free diet, which I really don't think you understand. If you had Celiac disease, you wouldn't just 'not feel good' when you eat gluten. It makes you very ill, for days.
This is true. You get pretty darned sick. My SO's young cousin (I believe she was 11 at the time) was diagnosed with celiac disease after being really ill for days on end, and I believe she might have been in the hospital as well. The doctors said she had some serious problems from celiac, so it was good she was diagnosed then. Poor thing has to eat ALL gluten free, no exceptions, otherwise she could get very sick again and end up in the hospital. [/quote]
I think that may have been typed that wrong. To test for celiac disease using blood tests, one must be eating gluten (approximately 1-2 slices of bread per day or the equivalent) in the 8-12 weeks prior to testing or you risk getting a false negative. It's only 2-4 weeks of gluten prior to the endoscopic biopsy.
The genetic tests are for the DQ2 and DQ8 genes, of which 97% of celiacs have at least one. Genetic tests will just tell you if you at at risk of developing celiac disease; 30% of the world has those genes but less that 1% of the world has celiac.
I do agree that you are eating quite a bit of gluten for someone with a gluten sensitivity. Barley is in all beer unless you buy brands made from sorghum or rice (sigh), and there is gluten in the older varieties of wheat out there like einkorn.
If you do suspect celiac, you might want to get tested. For the amount of gluten / gliadin protein protein you are eating, you could be keeping your body in a constant state of inflammation whether you have obvious symptoms or not. You may be doing damage to yourself and cause problems like nutritional deficincies, anemia, osteoporosis, neuropathies, ataxia, or go on to develop other autoimmune issues. If you suspect celiac at all consider getting tested.
If you won't test then you should probably go 100% gluten free so you aren't damaging your health just in case you are a celiac.
You might want to look into the paleo diet. It might be complimentary to your goals.
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nvsmomketo wrote: »
To test for celiac disease you have to eat a gluten diet.....no can do....sorry but I don't trust doctors....they have my mom strung up on pills like she was a drug addict.TenaciousTAZ wrote: »But, that's the very reason you should go to the doctor. Many people who are intolerant to gluten have celiac disease, which can cause death if not treated properly.
My acupuncturist is also a homeopathic doc, so I consult her if needed. I appreciate your concern, just not really happy with our society over drugging it's patients.
You are wrong. To test for Celiac you don't eat a gluten diet. I have Celiac disease. There are genetic tests for it, as well as intestinal biopsies. And there are no pills for Celiac disease. Just a gluten-free diet, which I really don't think you understand. If you had Celiac disease, you wouldn't just 'not feel good' when you eat gluten. It makes you very ill, for days.
This is true. You get pretty darned sick. My SO's young cousin (I believe she was 11 at the time) was diagnosed with celiac disease after being really ill for days on end, and I believe she might have been in the hospital as well. The doctors said she had some serious problems from celiac, so it was good she was diagnosed then. Poor thing has to eat ALL gluten free, no exceptions, otherwise she could get very sick again and end up in the hospital.
I think that may have been typed that wrong. To test for celiac disease using blood tests, one must be eating gluten (approximately 1-2 slices of bread per day or the equivalent) in the 8-12 weeks prior to testing or you risk getting a false negative. It's only 2-4 weeks of gluten prior to the endoscopic biopsy.
The genetic tests are for the DQ2 and DQ8 genes, of which 97% of celiacs have at least one. Genetic tests will just tell you if you at at risk of developing celiac disease; 30% of the world has those genes but less that 1% of the world has celiac.
I do agree that you are eating quite a bit of gluten for someone with a gluten sensitivity. Barley is in all beer unless you buy brands made from sorghum or rice (sigh), and there is gluten in the older varieties of wheat out there like einkorn.
If you do suspect celiac, you might want to get tested. For the amount of gluten / gliadin protein protein you are eating, you could be keeping your body in a constant state of inflammation whether you have obvious symptoms or not. You may be doing damage to yourself and cause problems like nutritional deficincies, anemia, osteoporosis, neuropathies, ataxia, or go on to develop other autoimmune issues. If you suspect celiac at all consider getting tested.
If you won't test then you should probably go 100% gluten free so you aren't damaging your health just in case you are a celiac.
You might want to look into the paleo diet. It might be complimentary to your goals.
Best wishes.
Just so you know...unfortunately, it looks like I said something when I did not because the quote function goofed on my prior post. I was actually replying to the person in the first paragraph with this (second paragraph):This is true. You get pretty darned sick. My SO's young cousin (I believe she was 11 at the time) was diagnosed with celiac disease after being really ill for days on end, and I believe she might have been in the hospital as well. The doctors said she had some serious problems from celiac, so it was good she was diagnosed then. Poor thing has to eat ALL gluten free, no exceptions, otherwise she could get very sick again and end up in the hospital.
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