Whole Foods Eating/Gluten Free

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  • sheldonz42
    sheldonz42 Posts: 233 Member
    TenaciousTAZ wrote: »
    Loaded with junk means processed foods with things that have more than 3 syllables, or things with food dye which is totally unnecessary. (like why does hot sauce or pickle relish really need food dye?)

    A couple of prime examples of some things with more than 3 syllables (total anyway): dihydrogen monoxide and sodium chloride.

  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    sheldonz42 wrote: »
    TenaciousTAZ wrote: »
    Loaded with junk means processed foods with things that have more than 3 syllables, or things with food dye which is totally unnecessary. (like why does hot sauce or pickle relish really need food dye?)

    A couple of prime examples of some things with more than 3 syllables (total anyway): dihydrogen monoxide and sodium chloride.

    lol :wink:
  • TenaciousTAZ
    TenaciousTAZ Posts: 135 Member
    \! [/quote]

    So... do you avoid soy sauce? Chicken broth? Soup? Rice made in most restaurants? Shredded cheese? (even the parmesan cheese?) Sauces?
    Because all of those things have gluten in them. (as does pretty much anything with modified food starch in it)

    Speaking of three syllables, do you avoid any food with sodium bicarbonate in it?[/quote]

    I make my own chicken stock/soup, don't use soy sauce, shredded cheese...barely eat rice, and make my own sauces....my pantry is pretty much coconut oil, nuts, spices....I try to avoid anything that sounds like a chemist made it! If you can hunt it, or pull it out of the ground then yeah that's me.
  • TenaciousTAZ
    TenaciousTAZ Posts: 135 Member
    I am not the one that said I had celiac disease...(some other post'r person did) All my darn post was to get support for alternative recipes that are whole foods based.....Guess I'm in the wrong place.
  • gaelicstorm26
    gaelicstorm26 Posts: 589 Member
    In my experience, people on MFP don't really take well to the demonization of foods, which is why you're getting these sorts of responses.

    While you should eat in a way that makes you feel good, demonizing food dyes and things with more than three syllables won't get you far with many posters.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    TenaciousTAZ wrote: »

    Gaining weight has nothing to do with what type of food you are eating, it has to do with how many calories you are eating. If you are gaining weight, you are eating too many calories, period. Are you weighing all of your food and logging your calories, keeping to a calorie deficit?
    First you thought gluten was your problem, now your problem is 'processed food'? None of that is your problem. You need to buy a food scale and weigh your food, and keep yourself below a calorie deficit. You'll lose weight.[/quote]

    Mindy, I know calories in, calories out...I lost 80 lbs. in 8 months, so I know it's a balance of what you eat and what you burn. I am just stating that gluten and processed foods do not do my body "good" and it is a challenge to find a diversity of recipes that support a whole foods approach. [/quote]

    No, weight loss is about how much you eat and how much you burn. Weight loss has nothing to do with weight loss. In other words, in order to lose weight you have to eat at a calorie deficit.

  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    TenaciousTAZ wrote: »
    But, that's the very reason you should go to the doctor. Many people who are intolerant to gluten have celiac disease, which can cause death if not treated properly.
    To test for celiac disease you have to eat a gluten diet.....no can do....sorry but I don't trust doctors....they have my mom strung up on pills like she was a drug addict.
    My acupuncturist is also a homeopathic doc, so I consult her if needed. I appreciate your concern, just not really happy with our society over drugging it's patients.

    You are wrong. To test for Celiac you don't eat a gluten diet. I have Celiac disease. There are genetic tests for it, as well as intestinal biopsies. And there are no pills for Celiac disease. Just a gluten-free diet, which I really don't think you understand. If you had Celiac disease, you wouldn't just 'not feel good' when you eat gluten. It makes you very ill, for days.[/quote]

    This is true. You get pretty darned sick. My SO's young cousin (I believe she was 11 at the time) was diagnosed with celiac disease after being really ill for days on end, and I believe she might have been in the hospital as well. The doctors said she had some serious problems from celiac, so it was good she was diagnosed then. Poor thing has to eat ALL gluten free, no exceptions, otherwise she could get very sick again and end up in the hospital.
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    edited July 2015
    Oops Double post error.
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    TenaciousTAZ wrote: »
    But, that's the very reason you should go to the doctor. Many people who are intolerant to gluten have celiac disease, which can cause death if not treated properly.
    To test for celiac disease you have to eat a gluten diet.....no can do....sorry but I don't trust doctors....they have my mom strung up on pills like she was a drug addict.
    My acupuncturist is also a homeopathic doc, so I consult her if needed. I appreciate your concern, just not really happy with our society over drugging it's patients.

    You are wrong. To test for Celiac you don't eat a gluten diet. I have Celiac disease. There are genetic tests for it, as well as intestinal biopsies. And there are no pills for Celiac disease. Just a gluten-free diet, which I really don't think you understand. If you had Celiac disease, you wouldn't just 'not feel good' when you eat gluten. It makes you very ill, for days.

    This is true. You get pretty darned sick. My SO's young cousin (I believe she was 11 at the time) was diagnosed with celiac disease after being really ill for days on end, and I believe she might have been in the hospital as well. The doctors said she had some serious problems from celiac, so it was good she was diagnosed then. Poor thing has to eat ALL gluten free, no exceptions, otherwise she could get very sick again and end up in the hospital. [/quote]

    I think that may have been typed that wrong. To test for celiac disease using blood tests, one must be eating gluten (approximately 1-2 slices of bread per day or the equivalent) in the 8-12 weeks prior to testing or you risk getting a false negative. It's only 2-4 weeks of gluten prior to the endoscopic biopsy.

    The genetic tests are for the DQ2 and DQ8 genes, of which 97% of celiacs have at least one. Genetic tests will just tell you if you at at risk of developing celiac disease; 30% of the world has those genes but less that 1% of the world has celiac.

    I do agree that you are eating quite a bit of gluten for someone with a gluten sensitivity. Barley is in all beer unless you buy brands made from sorghum or rice (sigh), and there is gluten in the older varieties of wheat out there like einkorn.

    If you do suspect celiac, you might want to get tested. For the amount of gluten / gliadin protein protein you are eating, you could be keeping your body in a constant state of inflammation whether you have obvious symptoms or not. You may be doing damage to yourself and cause problems like nutritional deficincies, anemia, osteoporosis, neuropathies, ataxia, or go on to develop other autoimmune issues. If you suspect celiac at all consider getting tested.

    If you won't test then you should probably go 100% gluten free so you aren't damaging your health just in case you are a celiac.

    You might want to look into the paleo diet. It might be complimentary to your goals.

    Best wishes.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    edited July 2015
    nvsmomketo wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    TenaciousTAZ wrote: »
    But, that's the very reason you should go to the doctor. Many people who are intolerant to gluten have celiac disease, which can cause death if not treated properly.
    To test for celiac disease you have to eat a gluten diet.....no can do....sorry but I don't trust doctors....they have my mom strung up on pills like she was a drug addict.
    My acupuncturist is also a homeopathic doc, so I consult her if needed. I appreciate your concern, just not really happy with our society over drugging it's patients.

    You are wrong. To test for Celiac you don't eat a gluten diet. I have Celiac disease. There are genetic tests for it, as well as intestinal biopsies. And there are no pills for Celiac disease. Just a gluten-free diet, which I really don't think you understand. If you had Celiac disease, you wouldn't just 'not feel good' when you eat gluten. It makes you very ill, for days.

    This is true. You get pretty darned sick. My SO's young cousin (I believe she was 11 at the time) was diagnosed with celiac disease after being really ill for days on end, and I believe she might have been in the hospital as well. The doctors said she had some serious problems from celiac, so it was good she was diagnosed then. Poor thing has to eat ALL gluten free, no exceptions, otherwise she could get very sick again and end up in the hospital.

    I think that may have been typed that wrong. To test for celiac disease using blood tests, one must be eating gluten (approximately 1-2 slices of bread per day or the equivalent) in the 8-12 weeks prior to testing or you risk getting a false negative. It's only 2-4 weeks of gluten prior to the endoscopic biopsy.

    The genetic tests are for the DQ2 and DQ8 genes, of which 97% of celiacs have at least one. Genetic tests will just tell you if you at at risk of developing celiac disease; 30% of the world has those genes but less that 1% of the world has celiac.

    I do agree that you are eating quite a bit of gluten for someone with a gluten sensitivity. Barley is in all beer unless you buy brands made from sorghum or rice (sigh), and there is gluten in the older varieties of wheat out there like einkorn.

    If you do suspect celiac, you might want to get tested. For the amount of gluten / gliadin protein protein you are eating, you could be keeping your body in a constant state of inflammation whether you have obvious symptoms or not. You may be doing damage to yourself and cause problems like nutritional deficincies, anemia, osteoporosis, neuropathies, ataxia, or go on to develop other autoimmune issues. If you suspect celiac at all consider getting tested.

    If you won't test then you should probably go 100% gluten free so you aren't damaging your health just in case you are a celiac.

    You might want to look into the paleo diet. It might be complimentary to your goals.

    Best wishes.

    Just so you know...unfortunately, it looks like I said something when I did not because the quote function goofed on my prior post. I was actually replying to the person in the first paragraph with this (second paragraph):
    This is true. You get pretty darned sick. My SO's young cousin (I believe she was 11 at the time) was diagnosed with celiac disease after being really ill for days on end, and I believe she might have been in the hospital as well. The doctors said she had some serious problems from celiac, so it was good she was diagnosed then. Poor thing has to eat ALL gluten free, no exceptions, otherwise she could get very sick again and end up in the hospital.


  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    nvsmomketo wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    TenaciousTAZ wrote: »
    But, that's the very reason you should go to the doctor. Many people who are intolerant to gluten have celiac disease, which can cause death if not treated properly.
    To test for celiac disease you have to eat a gluten diet.....no can do....sorry but I don't trust doctors....they have my mom strung up on pills like she was a drug addict.
    My acupuncturist is also a homeopathic doc, so I consult her if needed. I appreciate your concern, just not really happy with our society over drugging it's patients.

    You are wrong. To test for Celiac you don't eat a gluten diet. I have Celiac disease. There are genetic tests for it, as well as intestinal biopsies. And there are no pills for Celiac disease. Just a gluten-free diet, which I really don't think you understand. If you had Celiac disease, you wouldn't just 'not feel good' when you eat gluten. It makes you very ill, for days.

    This is true. You get pretty darned sick. My SO's young cousin (I believe she was 11 at the time) was diagnosed with celiac disease after being really ill for days on end, and I believe she might have been in the hospital as well. The doctors said she had some serious problems from celiac, so it was good she was diagnosed then. Poor thing has to eat ALL gluten free, no exceptions, otherwise she could get very sick again and end up in the hospital.

    I think that may have been typed that wrong. To test for celiac disease using blood tests, one must be eating gluten (approximately 1-2 slices of bread per day or the equivalent) in the 8-12 weeks prior to testing or you risk getting a false negative. It's only 2-4 weeks of gluten prior to the endoscopic biopsy.

    The genetic tests are for the DQ2 and DQ8 genes, of which 97% of celiacs have at least one. Genetic tests will just tell you if you at at risk of developing celiac disease; 30% of the world has those genes but less that 1% of the world has celiac.

    I do agree that you are eating quite a bit of gluten for someone with a gluten sensitivity. Barley is in all beer unless you buy brands made from sorghum or rice (sigh), and there is gluten in the older varieties of wheat out there like einkorn.

    If you do suspect celiac, you might want to get tested. For the amount of gluten / gliadin protein protein you are eating, you could be keeping your body in a constant state of inflammation whether you have obvious symptoms or not. You may be doing damage to yourself and cause problems like nutritional deficincies, anemia, osteoporosis, neuropathies, ataxia, or go on to develop other autoimmune issues. If you suspect celiac at all consider getting tested.

    If you won't test then you should probably go 100% gluten free so you aren't damaging your health just in case you are a celiac.

    You might want to look into the paleo diet. It might be complimentary to your goals.

    Best wishes.

    Just so you know...unfortunately, it looks like I said something when I did not because the quote function goofed on my prior post. I was actually replying to the person in the first paragraph with this (second paragraph):
    This is true. You get pretty darned sick. My SO's young cousin (I believe she was 11 at the time) was diagnosed with celiac disease after being really ill for days on end, and I believe she might have been in the hospital as well. The doctors said she had some serious problems from celiac, so it was good she was diagnosed then. Poor thing has to eat ALL gluten free, no exceptions, otherwise she could get very sick again and end up in the hospital.


    Oops. Sorry. I didn't mean to misquote you. I hope your SO's cousin is feeling better now that she is GF. It can take quite a while.
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    nvsmomketo wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    TenaciousTAZ wrote: »
    But, that's the very reason you should go to the doctor. Many people who are intolerant to gluten have celiac disease, which can cause death if not treated properly.
    To test for celiac disease you have to eat a gluten diet.....no can do....sorry but I don't trust doctors....they have my mom strung up on pills like she was a drug addict.
    My acupuncturist is also a homeopathic doc, so I consult her if needed. I appreciate your concern, just not really happy with our society over drugging it's patients.

    You are wrong. To test for Celiac you don't eat a gluten diet. I have Celiac disease. There are genetic tests for it, as well as intestinal biopsies. And there are no pills for Celiac disease. Just a gluten-free diet, which I really don't think you understand. If you had Celiac disease, you wouldn't just 'not feel good' when you eat gluten. It makes you very ill, for days.

    This is true. You get pretty darned sick. My SO's young cousin (I believe she was 11 at the time) was diagnosed with celiac disease after being really ill for days on end, and I believe she might have been in the hospital as well. The doctors said she had some serious problems from celiac, so it was good she was diagnosed then. Poor thing has to eat ALL gluten free, no exceptions, otherwise she could get very sick again and end up in the hospital.

    I think that may have been typed that wrong. To test for celiac disease using blood tests, one must be eating gluten (approximately 1-2 slices of bread per day or the equivalent) in the 8-12 weeks prior to testing or you risk getting a false negative. It's only 2-4 weeks of gluten prior to the endoscopic biopsy.

    The genetic tests are for the DQ2 and DQ8 genes, of which 97% of celiacs have at least one. Genetic tests will just tell you if you at at risk of developing celiac disease; 30% of the world has those genes but less that 1% of the world has celiac.

    I do agree that you are eating quite a bit of gluten for someone with a gluten sensitivity. Barley is in all beer unless you buy brands made from sorghum or rice (sigh), and there is gluten in the older varieties of wheat out there like einkorn.

    If you do suspect celiac, you might want to get tested. For the amount of gluten / gliadin protein protein you are eating, you could be keeping your body in a constant state of inflammation whether you have obvious symptoms or not. You may be doing damage to yourself and cause problems like nutritional deficincies, anemia, osteoporosis, neuropathies, ataxia, or go on to develop other autoimmune issues. If you suspect celiac at all consider getting tested.

    If you won't test then you should probably go 100% gluten free so you aren't damaging your health just in case you are a celiac.

    You might want to look into the paleo diet. It might be complimentary to your goals.

    Best wishes.[/quote]

    This is what I meant - that you don't eat gluten while [in] the hospital, that you were already eating gluten prior to entering the hospital, and they do the biopsies there . This is why I had false negatives, because I was eating a largely gluten-free diet prior to my biopsies, and the instructions weren't clear about the diet prior to the test for me.
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