whole milk calories

I'd say, with the comparisons you made (i.e. to french fries or a donut or what have you) yes, that is a much better choice.

And real foodies drink real milk...but they're also not trying to lose weight, ya know?

But this is your journey, and if whole milk is your choice then I say go for it. But I would see if there were an even BETTER choice for the use of those calories and fat...ya know? Especially in light of your goals. Maybe in lean meats. Or in some avocado, olive oil, or nuts. Something a little more heart healthy and balanced that might keep you full for longer.

The way I would look at it (and I'm NO expert so don'ytshoot me if I'm wrong!) is that calories are calories, but liquid calories aren't as filling as food calories. For example, if you had 2 slices of wholemeal granary bread or some milk, the bread would keep you feeling fuller for longer. Also, I would look at how nutrient dense the food was. You could have 300 calories' worth of sugar, but that's virtually nutrient-free so it's just empty calories.

On the subject of needing dairy. I have to say I don't believe we need it at all. We are the only creature on the planet to drink the milk of another creature. I only have dairy a few times per year. Not because I think that I should, but because I want to! (You can't beat strawberries and whipped cream!)

Well the whole milk has a bunch of fat and a lot more protein than the bread..so I'd vote the milk will hold longer than the bread will since the bread will mainly be just carbs (better than straight up sugar, yes) and a couple grams of fiber and maybe a gram or two of protein. Milk has 8g of protein per cup. And I can't recall the fat count off the top of my head, maybe around 6-12g per cup for the whole? About 12g carbs. That all should be a lot more satiating (and take a lot longer to digest).

But my opinion, it's up to you. I'm wishy washy on milk, for various reasons. There are populations that live on saturated fat diets (red meat, whole fat dairy) and have little to no heart issues. That doesn't mean that's right for you, though either. I think that 300 calories and all the saturated fats in the milk aren't worth it. I use 2% or 1% milk and you'll never get me to use skim. You'll get a great debate on this as everyone thinks different things are bad for you, but as long as you are being reasonable with what else you are having in the day, then a glass of whole milk shouldn't be a problem. Perhaps have it after a workout when your body is more revved to use what you put in it?

Yeah...I use whole fat dairy and I'm losing weight. It's all about portion control. Cripes, look at the French population......

Whole milk is much better for you. Skim milk and 2% milk lack the whole protein chain, and the whole milk's fat content aids in protein synthesis. Skim milk and 2% milk make you fat. If you want to just drink milk to gain weight, go for it. If you want to be satiated and get nutrients from your food, drink whole.

goosebeartalk wrote: »

Whole milk is much better for you. Skim milk and 2% milk lack the whole protein chain, and the whole milk's fat content aids in protein synthesis. Skim milk and 2% milk make you fat. If you want to just drink milk to gain weight, go for it. If you want to be satiated and get nutrients from your food, drink whole.

How does skim and 2% milk make someone fat? Calories make you fat, not specific foods.

For the OP, milk is definitely a better choice than something like 300 calories worth of French fries or chips or chocolate. It has more nutrients than those things so it's a better choice for sure.

Just make sure you log it correctly. 1 cup of milk is not a lot and most glasses contain more than 1 cup. Mine hold 2 cups