Carb backloading
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Look I don't have an issue with how you choose to achieve your calorie defecit
If this works for you and makes you feel great then that's brilliant
But if you want to convince people you link to actual peer reviewed studies to support your case, not bro-science sites ...let me give you a clue ...avoid the following
Robert Lustig
Gary Taubes
David Ludwig
Steve Phinney
Jeff Volek
Dr. Oz
Dr. Mercola
Bananagirl
Read this for a laugh http://io9.com/i-fooled-millions-into-thinking-chocolate-helps-weight-1707251800
Ahh ! Can't be fuarked ! But yeah whatever works for you love.
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I was looking at your diary and you eat like 50+grams of fat per meal? How is it that you lose weight? Abs? Any full body pics ? Your first meal yesterday had over 80 g of fat? I don't get it ?RamonBecerra wrote: »What i have learned is that if you eat carbs during the day it will kill-your fat burning cortisol levels and start storing. Look up john keifer thats who i fillow. I tryed alot of differ thing bit but i eat my carbs at night my muscles look so fill the next day and my waistline looks so small in the morning. Wen i would eat carbs during the day i would wake up flat. Thats my experience on my own body. But yes i have too lost weight bok ways but loading my carbs at night make my muscles look mote aswome
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Please don't resort to being patronising and sexist just because you are unable to form a cogent argumentLook I don't have an issue with how you choose to achieve your calorie defecit
If this works for you and makes you feel great then that's brilliant
But if you want to convince people you link to actual peer reviewed studies to support your case, not bro-science sites ...let me give you a clue ...avoid the following
Robert Lustig
Gary Taubes
David Ludwig
Steve Phinney
Jeff Volek
Dr. Oz
Dr. Mercola
Bananagirl
Read this for a laugh http://io9.com/i-fooled-millions-into-thinking-chocolate-helps-weight-1707251800
Ahh ! Can't be fuarked ! But yeah whatever works for you love.
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Robert Lustig
Gary Taubes
David Ludwig
Steve Phinney
Jeff Volek
Dr. Oz
Dr. Mercola
Bananagirl
Is this a list of people with different opinions to yours ? Some of the names therein publish studies in peer reviewed science journals and hold senior positions in academic establishments.
Others are bloggers or entertainers of some kind.
Seems odd to request "actual peer reviewed studies" and then exclude some of the potential authors of such studies.
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Links please...change my mind ..because so far I've not seen anything of value from them
Actually open a new thread ...this is probably a derail from carb back loading0 -
Please don't resort to being patronising and sexist just because you are unable to form a cogent argumentLook I don't have an issue with how you choose to achieve your calorie defecit
If this works for you and makes you feel great then that's brilliant
But if you want to convince people you link to actual peer reviewed studies to support your case, not bro-science sites ...let me give you a clue ...avoid the following
Robert Lustig
Gary Taubes
David Ludwig
Steve Phinney
Jeff Volek
Dr. Oz
Dr. Mercola
Bananagirl
Read this for a laugh http://io9.com/i-fooled-millions-into-thinking-chocolate-helps-weight-1707251800
Ahh ! Can't be fuarked ! But yeah whatever works for you love.
Sexist ? lol Don't pull that *kitten* on me now haha alright Wait up0 -
Please don't resort to being patronising and sexist just because you are unable to form a cogent argumentLook I don't have an issue with how you choose to achieve your calorie defecit
If this works for you and makes you feel great then that's brilliant
But if you want to convince people you link to actual peer reviewed studies to support your case, not bro-science sites ...let me give you a clue ...avoid the following
Robert Lustig
Gary Taubes
David Ludwig
Steve Phinney
Jeff Volek
Dr. Oz
Dr. Mercola
Bananagirl
Read this for a laugh http://io9.com/i-fooled-millions-into-thinking-chocolate-helps-weight-1707251800
Ahh ! Can't be fuarked ! But yeah whatever works for you love.
Sexist ? lol Don't pull that *kitten* on me now haha alright Wait up
http://www.leangains.com/2010/04/leangains-guide.html
http://chadwaterbury.com/...iet-revolution/
http://easacademy.org/trainer-resources/article/intermittent-fasting
http://www.bettermanproject.com/warrior-diet-one-month-transformation-beforeafter-photos/
http://gettingstronger.org/2010/05/calorie-restriction-and-hormesis/0 -
Maybe you misunderstood me. When your hormones are effected as, we all know, the body utilizes nutrients differently and reacts differently to what it is given. Insulin and leptin being perfect examples, which are two hormones that are greatly effected through IF. Gaining muscle and losing fat IS NOT just calories in calories out. The simplest argument that I've ever heard to prove this is to go eat 3000 calories a day of carbs or go eat 3000 calories a day of protein and see how your body looks in a few weeks. It is possible for one to gain muscle while eating under maintenance calories and it is also possible for one to lose fat while eating above, so how does that happen if it's as simple as calories in/calories out. There is something else at work here. How can I take someone and replace all the grains in their diet with healthy fats while keeping their caloric intake exactly the same and they finally begin to lose body fat? Even things like gluten allergies keep people from losing BF, regardless of their calories. If it was just calories in/calories out then why when someone is dieting and they keep dropping their calories further does their weight loss eventually come to a stop. If it was calories in/calories out then weight loss should continue , right?? Doing intermittent fasting really opened my eyes to how wrong I was for so many years thinking that I had to have so many calories to gain, or so many calories to lose or, the worst of all, having to eat every 3 hours or my metabolism would slow and my body would eat itself without ever giving though to how my body was using what I was giving it and the effects the nutrients were having. Think about this, if you take two people and give them the same exact meal containing the same exact amount of calories and nutrient ratios, the only difference is that one person is completely insulin resistant and the other has fantastic insulin sensitivity. Are these calories going to be used the same way in these two people's body?? No , not at all. So here we have the same amount of calories and nutrients but the only difference is hormonal.0
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Now I don't care if you agree with me or not. But the effects are innumerable
1.Increased mental clarity like the movie limitless
2. Increased Strength gains from fasted training
3. Not feeling sluggish
4. Energy levels have soared
5. No bloating
6. High sex drive0 -
Isn't carb back-loading just the least worst time to eat carbs ?
http://caloriesproper.com/carb-back-loading-take-ii/
or "the least fattening way to eat the wrong things"0 -
Isn't carb back-loading just the least worst time to eat carbs ?
http://caloriesproper.com/carb-back-loading-take-ii/
or "the least fattening way to eat the wrong things"
In a sense yeah, feel free to check those articles mate, I'm sure you'll find something of utmost value.0 -
Nope ...with the amount of nonsense out there it's just easier to form a list of people to avoid
I don't have an issue with carbs or no-carbs
I have an issue with over-complication for minimum reward and with money-grabbing meejah hoors
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If peer reviewed science is to be held up as a gold standard then I struggle with selectivity - isn't that what the peer review is supposed to do ? If not then maybe it shouldn't be the gold standard.
Volek (for example) was involved in a couple of studies looking at how saturated fat in the diet influences saturated fat in the bloodstream. Seems quite useful if we're trying to decide whether to worry about saturated fat. The latest one he wasn't the lead author, although she had a very similar name - Volk - http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0113605
I don't agree with a lot of what Lustig says, but virtually none of it is peer reviewed science or necessarily supported by same.0 -
Egads! My morning cup of bro hath runneth over.0
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:huh:
The bro-science is strong in this thread
:bigsmile:
Aye. I used to IF. It worked great for me, because it suited my natural eating pattern. Then I upped my workouts. IF'ing was no longer compatible with my chronic migraines, because training fasted just triggered them, every time.
I stopped doing it in such a small window. Now I do a 10 hour window instead.
I'll take working out more and being headache free, thanks.
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Maybe you misunderstood me. When your hormones are effected as, we all know, the body utilizes nutrients differently and reacts differently to what it is given. Insulin and leptin being perfect examples, which are two hormones that are greatly effected through IF. Gaining muscle and losing fat IS NOT just calories in calories out. The simplest argument that I've ever heard to prove this is to go eat 3000 calories a day of carbs or go eat 3000 calories a day of protein and see how your body looks in a few weeks. It is possible for one to gain muscle while eating under maintenance calories and it is also possible for one to lose fat while eating above, so how does that happen if it's as simple as calories in/calories out. There is something else at work here. How can I take someone and replace all the grains in their diet with healthy fats while keeping their caloric intake exactly the same and they finally begin to lose body fat? Even things like gluten allergies keep people from losing BF, regardless of their calories. If it was just calories in/calories out then why when someone is dieting and they keep dropping their calories further does their weight loss eventually come to a stop. If it was calories in/calories out then weight loss should continue , right?? Doing intermittent fasting really opened my eyes to how wrong I was for so many years thinking that I had to have so many calories to gain, or so many calories to lose or, the worst of all, having to eat every 3 hours or my metabolism would slow and my body would eat itself without ever giving though to how my body was using what I was giving it and the effects the nutrients were having. Think about this, if you take two people and give them the same exact meal containing the same exact amount of calories and nutrient ratios, the only difference is that one person is completely insulin resistant and the other has fantastic insulin sensitivity. Are these calories going to be used the same way in these two people's body?? No , not at all. So here we have the same amount of calories and nutrients but the only difference is hormonal.
Great wall o' bro.
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It's macro timing ...no carbs till later in the day
Still CICO of course
But with unnecessary rules
How much "later in the day"? I eat all of my food in the afternoon and evening most days, so that's usually when all my carbs are eaten. Never heard of this concept though. I think I'd lose weight just the same if I ate earlier.0 -
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RamonBecerra wrote: »What i have learned is that if you eat carbs during the day it will kill-your fat burning cortisol levels and start storing. Look up john keifer thats who i fillow. I tryed alot of differ thing bit but i eat my carbs at night my muscles look so fill the next day and my waistline looks so small in the morning. Wen i would eat carbs during the day i would wake up flat. Thats my experience on my own body. But yes i have too lost weight bok ways but loading my carbs at night make my muscles look mote aswome is that calorie deficit leads to all weight loss
fixed it for you OP.0 -
RamonBecerra wrote: »What i have learned is that if you eat carbs during the day it will kill-your fat burning cortisol levels and start storing. Look up john keifer thats who i fillow. I tryed alot of differ thing bit but i eat my carbs at night my muscles look so fill the next day and my waistline looks so small in the morning. Wen i would eat carbs during the day i would wake up flat. Thats my experience on my own body. But yes i have too lost weight bok ways but loading my carbs at night make my muscles look mote aswome is that calorie deficit leads to all weight loss
fixed it for you OP.
lol ^^^
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