That sugar film

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  • khhregister
    khhregister Posts: 229 Member
    edited August 2015
    AlabasterVerve wrote: »
    No one has cereal, yogurt and juice for breakfast. Chicken something covered in a sugar sauce for lunch. A fruit bar for an afternoon snack. And a frozen yogurt or smoothie for a treat after dinner.

    Totally unrealistic -- no one eats that much sugar unless they just don't care about their diet at all.

    Sadly, I know a family that eats exactly like this. I went to stay with them recently, and they proudly showed me the sugary yogurt they had stocked the fridge with and the "healthy" cereal. The mom said "I bought a bunch of fruit because I know you like fruit!" (Meanwhile, no green veggies in the house.) She has cereal, sweet yogurt, and orange juice for breakfast. She thinks the orange juice is a "healthy" choice because it's called "Simply Orange." They pay attention to the big banner on the cereal box that says "A good source of fiber!"

    They eat out regularly, and have no idea how to make good choices. They would never dream of asking for no salad dressing or their chicken without a sauce or steamed vegetables instead of baked potato with all the fixins. They eat all the rolls offered.

    It's not that they don't want to be thinner and healthier. They just literally have no idea how to go about it. They've been fed so many mixed messages that they're a mess.

    I've learned not to underestimate the average understanding of health and nutrition.


  • sheldonklein
    sheldonklein Posts: 854 Member
    You don't need to think sugar is the debil to conclude that the US has a sugar issue that is harming our palate, if not our health. Compare the ingredient list on pancake syrup and sweet salad dressings. Hard to tell them apart, other than a splash of vinegar. My wife recently bought a nut and dried fruit "salad topping" that also recommended it be used as an ice cream topping. Something is very wrong.
  • mantium999
    mantium999 Posts: 1,490 Member
    sheldonklein wrote: »
    You don't need to think sugar is the debil to conclude that the US has a sugar issue that is harming our palate, if not our health. Compare the ingredient list on pancake syrup and sweet salad dressings. Hard to tell them apart, other than a splash of vinegar. My wife recently bought a nut and dried fruit "salad topping" that also recommended it be used as an ice cream topping. Something is very wrong.

    I put dried fruit and nuts on both ice cream and salad regularly. What is so very wrong with that?
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited August 2015
    sheldonklein wrote: »
    You don't need to think sugar is the debil to conclude that the US has a sugar issue that is harming our palate, if not our health.

    Eh, I think the amount of sugary stuff that Americans eat contributes to our enormous overconsumption of calories and thus harms our health, no question. I'd advise people to eat sugary treats in moderation and not as the main part of every meal plus unlimited snacks, just like I'd advise them to eat a reasonable amount of protein (although experts seem to think Americans get enough) and lots of vegetables. But they don't actually need me to advise them of this, since EVERYONE already knows this. Anyone who claims to worry about whether veggies are unhealthy or to think there's no need to eat them simply doesn't want to eat them, they really do know they should.

    That aside, it's not harming "our" palate. I eat sugary stuff regularly (in moderation) and have in the past in less moderation (although I got fat by overeating mostly "healthy" stuff, and basically everything), and I've always enjoyed fruit and vegetables and a wide variety of savory foods. And when I drank wine I liked drier sorts.

    I always find it odd that people say they can't appreciate other foods while enjoying ice cream also, or claim that once they start eating normally they stop being able to enjoy a piece of homemade apple pie (ideally, with ice cream).
    Compare the ingredient list on pancake syrup and sweet salad dressings. Hard to tell them apart, other than a splash of vinegar. My wife recently bought a nut and dried fruit "salad topping" that also recommended it be used as an ice cream topping. Something is very wrong.

    Nuts and dried fruit can be good on ice cream without any added sugar in them. I make a rhubarb sauce that is good on ice cream, as pancake syrup, or--with not much in the way of modification (I do sweeten it less, and typically do so with cherries, not strawberries)--on some meat.

    I'll give you the sweet salad dressing, since I think those are disgusting and don't understand why anyone likes them, but a normal vinegar and oil dressing (why buy dressing when they are so easy to make?) can be a little sweet since many vinegars are.
  • jonnybhoy
    jonnybhoy Posts: 84 Member
    I would have liked him to have published food diaries to back up his claim that he was eating the same calories per day pre the change over. He also claimed he kept up the same exercise regime.

    The smoothie he had on landing in the states contained a ridiculous amount of sugar
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