Diets!

Leanneyounique88
Leanneyounique88 Posts: 10 Member
edited November 23 in Health and Weight Loss
Hi all iv just started my weight loss journey and would like some ideas on diets which is ur best diet, low fat, low carb, meat free, clean eating..... im looking for a diet that I can introduce to my 6 years old so nothing to extreme thanks guys x
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  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,630 Member
    CICO.


    And just curious but why would you introduce your 6 year old to a diet?
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    Machka9 wrote: »
    CICO.


    And just curious but why would you introduce your 6 year old to a diet?

    This

  • Leanneyounique88
    Leanneyounique88 Posts: 10 Member
    Don't really wonna be making loads of different foods separate for me, separate for my child so need it family friendly
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    you can eat all you want only less
    That is the whole secret trick :)

    eat less calories than you burn (CICO)
  • AlexisUPenn
    AlexisUPenn Posts: 76 Member
    Everyone is different and you will have to play around to find what works for you. Best place to start is be aware of portion sizes. Get measuring cups, spoons and a food scale. Make sure you're drinking enough water- at least 64 oz. As far as foods go; stay away from processed foods. Stick to a balanced diet w veggies, protein, whole grains, and fruits.
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    Also please remember children need their fats, protein, carbs etc
    That you make that choice for your self oke...( not needed for weight loss btw)
    But your child is still growing up and has his needs in nutrition's.
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    edited August 2015
    Everyone is different and you will have to play around to find what works for you. Best place to start is be aware of portion sizes. Get measuring cups, spoons and a food scale. Make sure you're drinking enough water- at least 64 oz. As far as foods go; stay away from processed foods. Stick to a balanced diet w veggies, protein, whole grains, and fruits.

    Fixed it...to be accurate a food scale for Everything!
    Eat balanced! from a pizza to veggies etc etc
    You can eat everything as long as you eat less calories as you burn

    Healthy is of course to eat a balanced diet. which means you can also eat or add processed food...just moderation thats all
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,630 Member
    edited August 2015
    Don't really wonna be making loads of different foods separate for me, separate for my child so need it family friendly

    Then ... definitely ... CICO.

    Calories In < Calories Out

    Eat whatever you want to eat as long as the total calories you consume is less than the total calories you burn.

    This means that you can make healthy well-balanced meals, and all it comes down to is how much of it you eat.

    And yes ... the food scale is an important piece of equipment.



  • Merkavar
    Merkavar Posts: 3,082 Member
    I make sure I get enough protein and stay under my kilojoules.

    Apart from that it's fairly free. Like I don't have pizza and cake all day but there isn't any specific food group that is excluded.

    If you have no medical reason to exclude things why would you?

    Going to exclude it for ever?
  • Leanneyounique88
    Leanneyounique88 Posts: 10 Member
    Thanks guys il definitely be using that.
  • Leanneyounique88
    Leanneyounique88 Posts: 10 Member
    That's true I have no medical reason im just really overweight and don't want my child going sane way
  • Merkavar
    Merkavar Posts: 3,082 Member
    I guess with your kid in mind my uneducated suggestion would be variety.

    A variety of fruit veg meats nuts etc

    Different colours, I hear people making it into a bit of a game, having to eat 5 different colours a day or something.

    So you can't just eat apples or 1 single food all the time.
  • foreverslim1111
    foreverslim1111 Posts: 2,632 Member
    As long as you run a cal deficit most days, you can eat foods you love still and lose weight. Choose what ever makes you feel satisfied. I personally like concentrate on lean meats, LF dairy, eggs, fruits, vegs, and whole grains. Fit treats into your program in limited amounts. If you have trigger foods that you tend to go crazy with - then maybe keep those out of the house for now. Remember this will be the way you will want to eat for the rest of your life so it's got to be enjoyable to you. MFP is a great tool and it's free.
  • elphie754
    elphie754 Posts: 7,574 Member
    That's true I have no medical reason im just really overweight and don't want my child going sane way

    Introducing a 6 y/o to a "diet" can set them up for lots of food issues later on. Do not make you weigh loss journey her issue as well.
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,630 Member
    That's true I have no medical reason im just really overweight and don't want my child going sane way

    To start, you might have a look at your country's "food guide". They can be a decent starting point and reference tool. Before anyone panics here, I'm not suggesting you lock yourself into those guidelines ... just refer to them to get a general idea of what a balanced diet might look like.

    Here's Canada's ...
    http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/food-guide-aliment/index-eng.php

    Here's Australia's ...
    http://www.eatforhealth.gov.au/


    You might also check out your local community courses, and see if there are any being offered on nutrition and healthy eating.


    But then it really comes down to portion size, and this is something that I think a lot of us struggle with. A portion is actually quite small. In some cases ... really tiny. And this is where weighing everything comes in so that you are sure about how much you're eating.

    You can eat a healthy well-balanced diet, and still gain weight if your portion size is too large and if you are consuming too many calories.







  • Leanneyounique88
    Leanneyounique88 Posts: 10 Member
    elphie754 wrote: »
    That's true I have no medical reason im just really overweight and don't want my child going sane way

    Introducing a 6 y/o to a "diet" can set them up for lots of food issues later on. Do not make you weigh loss journey her issue as well.

    Yeh not so much introduce my child to a diet more ideas on eating better as a family
  • TimothyFish
    TimothyFish Posts: 4,925 Member
    You can follow a diet plan if you like, but all that matters is that you eat fewer calories than you use.
  • runnrchic
    runnrchic Posts: 130 Member
    Read 'Diet Cults' by Matt Fitzgerald.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Eat a healthful diet and watch your calories.

    I think logging what you eat now and then thinking about where you could cut without missing much is a good approach for anyone.

    If you want to learn about nutrition, here's a good site: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/

    I also enjoyed this article (and think David Katz is quite sensible): http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/03/science-compared-every-diet-and-the-winner-is-real-food/284595/
  • i6Shot
    i6Shot Posts: 51 Member
    Machka9 wrote: »
    Don't really wonna be making loads of different foods separate for me, separate for my child so need it family friendly

    Then ... definitely ... CICO.

    Calories In < Calories Out

    Eat whatever you want to eat as long as the total calories you consume is less than the total calories you burn.

    This means that you can make healthy well-balanced meals, and all it comes down to is how much of it you eat.

    And yes ... the food scale is an important piece of equipment.



    This statement is rubbish.

    Don't follow a diet. Just limit / cut added sugar (sugar from fruit is fine) and use whole / un-processed foods in your cooking. Examples would be to cook with fresh veggies, olive oils / coconut oils and lean meats (chicken, fish and beef) etc... Add herbs and spices to your taste and enjoy. You aren't really on a diet and by eating real food, you will be able to listen to your body and eat within your means.

    Listening to the advice of everyone posting
    CICO
    doesn't fully understand what they are saying. By using this logic you could just drink all your calories from soda / soft drinks and as long as you meet or are below your CICO as they say you will be fine. This isn't the case. Your body doesn't metabolize added sugars the same as whole wheat, proteins or sugars from fruit. In fact if you have too much sugar you get an insulin spike which your liver trigers to convert all sugars into fat because it can't cope with the amount.

    As long as your food doesn't come from a packet, you are preparing it yourself using good cooking techniques (steaming / grilling / little olive oil), using whole foods (whole wheat flour vs white flour) and choosing a well balanced diet of protein, fats and carbs you should be good. It won't feel like a diet if you eat foods that you prepare and like.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    i6Shot wrote: »
    Don't follow a diet. Just limit / cut added sugar (sugar from fruit is fine) and use whole / un-processed foods in your cooking. Examples would be to cook with fresh veggies, olive oils / coconut oils and lean meats (chicken, fish and beef) etc... Add herbs and spices to your taste and enjoy. You aren't really on a diet and by eating real food, you will be able to listen to your body and eat within your means.

    But I did all this when gaining weight. It's not enough.
  • i6Shot
    i6Shot Posts: 51 Member

    You seem to be the only one here that actually has any clue. Good link.
  • KateTii
    KateTii Posts: 886 Member
    i6Shot wrote: »
    This statement is rubbish.

    What you are describing is nutrition. What you are saying is perfect for ensuring your body is getting everything it needs.But for weightloss, it IS simply CICO.

    Yes if you got your calorie quota from soda you wouldn't be healthy and you wouldn't have all your nutrients either. But you WILL lose weight. It is impossible to not lose weight on CICO.

    My mother is a big believer in "eating clean" but doesn't believe in CICO. Yes she is getting all her nutrients but she isn't losing weight (which is what she wants). It is because she is consuming too many calories. It doesn't matter that the calories are coming from whole foods, olive oil, fruit, nuts and vegetables - she is having too much.

    The OP asked which was the best diet "low fat, low carb, meat free, clean eating" - all people have told her is that any diet that works for her is the "best diet" but that as long as she follows CICO she will lose weight. Not one person told her she can lose a ton of weight and be super healthy by only drinking soft drink.
  • i6Shot
    i6Shot Posts: 51 Member
    Eat whatever you want to eat as long as the total calories you consume is less than the total calories you burn.

    That line clear says eat what ever you want. To someone less healthy minded it says eat *kitten* food and you will be fine as long as you watch your CICO.

    I'm not saying you don't have to watch your calorie intake. I'm saying no diet is best. As long as you choose good foods and you don't over eat you will be fine. I'm a firm believer in listening to my body. If I feel hungry after eating I drink an Icy glass of water and wait 30min. Still hungry I choose a healthy snack to tide me over.

    When you don't think you are on a diet you tend to follow your eating plan better. When you think you are on a diet you are mentally telling yourself that you are limiting something. All mental.
    Yes if you got your calorie quota from soda you wouldn't be healthy and you wouldn't have all your nutrients either. But you WILL lose weight. It is impossible to not lose weight on CICO.

    I disagree. Strong science to suggest that when you eat a load of sugar be it from a drink or lollies / candy there isn't any fiber to slow digestion. This means your liver is over worked and cannot cope with the sudden influx of sugar to process. Insulin comes to the part to help by storing it as fat. The only way someone is losing weight on a diet like this is through muscle loss.

    In answer to the question: Clean eating without focusing on counting calories. Get a basic idea of what you are eating and then listen to your body for the rest of it. By cutting the sugar you should be able to listen better.
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    i6Shot wrote: »
    Eat whatever you want to eat as long as the total calories you consume is less than the total calories you burn.

    That line clear says eat what ever you want. To someone less healthy minded it says eat *kitten* food and you will be fine as long as you watch your CICO.

    I'm not saying you don't have to watch your calorie intake. I'm saying no diet is best. As long as you choose good foods and you don't over eat you will be fine. I'm a firm believer in listening to my body. If I feel hungry after eating I drink an Icy glass of water and wait 30min. Still hungry I choose a healthy snack to tide me over.

    When you don't think you are on a diet you tend to follow your eating plan better. When you think you are on a diet you are mentally telling yourself that you are limiting something. All mental.
    Yes if you got your calorie quota from soda you wouldn't be healthy and you wouldn't have all your nutrients either. But you WILL lose weight. It is impossible to not lose weight on CICO.

    I disagree. Strong science to suggest that when you eat a load of sugar be it from a drink or lollies / candy there isn't any fiber to slow digestion. This means your liver is over worked and cannot cope with the sudden influx of sugar to process. Insulin comes to the part to help by storing it as fat. The only way someone is losing weight on a diet like this is through muscle loss.

    In answer to the question: Clean eating without focusing on counting calories. Get a basic idea of what you are eating and then listen to your body for the rest of it. By cutting the sugar you should be able to listen better.

    links please of scientific studies!!!!

  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,446 Member
    KateTii wrote: »
    i6Shot wrote: »
    This statement is rubbish.

    What you are describing is nutrition. What you are saying is perfect for ensuring your body is getting everything it needs.But for weightloss, it IS simply CICO.
    .

    The OP is asking for advice on nutrition as well as weight control, for herself and her son.

    Machka9 wrote: »
    That's true I have no medical reason im just really overweight and don't want my child going sane way

    To start, you might have a look at your country's "food guide". They can be a decent starting point and reference tool. Before anyone panics here, I'm not suggesting you lock yourself into those guidelines ... just refer to them to get a general idea of what a balanced diet might look like.

    Here's Canada's ...
    http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/food-guide-aliment/index-eng.php

    Here's Australia's ...
    http://www.eatforhealth.gov.au/

    You might also check out your local community courses, and see if there are any being offered on nutrition and healthy eating.

    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Eat a healthful diet and watch your calories.

    I think logging what you eat now and then thinking about where you could cut without missing much is a good approach for anyone.

    If you want to learn about nutrition, here's a good site: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/

    I also enjoyed this article (and think David Katz is quite sensible): http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/03/science-compared-every-diet-and-the-winner-is-real-food/284595/

    Good advice here, OP. This guide is from the third link above:

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  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    Hi all iv just started my weight loss journey and would like some ideas on diets which is ur best diet, low fat, low carb, meat free, clean eating..... im looking for a diet that I can introduce to my 6 years old so nothing to extreme thanks guys x

    Eat what you guys normally eat, just eat less of it.

    The only diet required is calories in/calories out. That's it. :)
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    edited August 2015
    Yes if you got your calorie quota from soda you wouldn't be healthy and you wouldn't have all your nutrients either. But you WILL lose weight. It is impossible to not lose weight on CICO.

    I disagree. Strong science to suggest that when you eat a load of sugar be it from a drink or lollies / candy there isn't any fiber to slow digestion. This means your liver is over worked and cannot cope with the sudden influx of sugar to process. Insulin comes to the part to help by storing it as fat. The only way someone is losing weight on a diet like this is through muscle loss.

    In answer to the question: Clean eating without focusing on counting calories. Get a basic idea of what you are eating and then listen to your body for the rest of it. By cutting the sugar you should be able to listen better.

    Peer reviewed links to your referenced studies, please. :)

  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    edited August 2015
    i6Shot wrote: »
    Machka9 wrote: »
    Don't really wonna be making loads of different foods separate for me, separate for my child so need it family friendly

    Then ... definitely ... CICO.

    Calories In < Calories Out

    Eat whatever you want to eat as long as the total calories you consume is less than the total calories you burn.

    This means that you can make healthy well-balanced meals, and all it comes down to is how much of it you eat.

    And yes ... the food scale is an important piece of equipment.



    This statement is rubbish.

    Don't follow a diet. Just limit / cut added sugar (sugar from fruit is fine) and use whole / un-processed foods in your cooking. Examples would be to cook with fresh veggies, olive oils / coconut oils and lean meats (chicken, fish and beef) etc... Add herbs and spices to your taste and enjoy. You aren't really on a diet and by eating real food, you will be able to listen to your body and eat within your means.

    ]Listening to the advice of everyone posting
    CICO
    doesn't fully understand what they are saying. By using this logic you could just drink all your calories from soda / soft drinks and as long as you meet or are below your CICO as they say you will be fine. This isn't the case. Your body doesn't metabolize added sugars the same as whole wheat, proteins or sugars from fruit. In fact if you have too much sugar you get an insulin spike which your liver trigers to convert all sugars into fat because it can't cope with the amount.

    As long as your food doesn't come from a packet, you are preparing it yourself using good cooking techniques (steaming / grilling / little olive oil), using whole foods (whole wheat flour vs white flour) and choosing a well balanced diet of protein, fats and carbs you should be good. It won't feel like a diet if you eat foods that you prepare and like.

    I don't believe you understand what is being said, because you are going to extremes. Nobody is saying to go drink drink all your calories form soda or soft drinks. Moderation is key.

    Sugar is not converted into fat anymore than anything else. Eating over your TDEE (total daily energy expenditure) is what causes fat.

    How you cook your food has nothing to do with weight loss either. I agree that nutritional balance is great, but it really has nothing to do with weight loss. A person can lose weight on a horrible diet, and gain on a superb diet.

    The name of the game is to make lifestyle changes, but you can't fool yourself into thinking you're not on a diet while trying to lose weight. ;)
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