Dry Red Beans - What Am I doing wrong?

I had some dry red beans that I'm trying to cook. They are just coming out chalky / dry in the middle and bland (aren't red beans supposed to be spicy?).

Here's what I did:

1. Soaked beans for 12 hours.
2. Drained water, rinsed.
3. Put beans in pot, covered with 1 inch of water.
4. Brought to boil on the stove.
5. Decreased heat to just above simmer.
6. Covered and cooked for 4 hours.
7. Gave up because they are still very chalky in the middle and they are very bland.

What am I doing wrong? Should I just get a pressure cooker?
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  • br3adman
    br3adman Posts: 284 Member
    Soak 2 days.
  • JeffBrown3
    JeffBrown3 Posts: 161 Member
    edited August 2015
    All I do is wash them, drain... Cover with water and put on high until they start to boil . Let them boil about 5 mins. Then i reduce to low med heat, add seasonings and cook covered for 1 1/2 to 2 hours. Come out perfect every time.
  • stephanieluvspb
    stephanieluvspb Posts: 997 Member
    They're bland because they might need more seasoning. I like using garlic and cajun seasoning. Yum
  • br3adman
    br3adman Posts: 284 Member
    If you start the water at a rolling boil add dry beans cover then put in the oven you can skip the 2 day soak. Just add salt/ flavoring
  • maasha81
    maasha81 Posts: 733 Member

    JeffBrown3 wrote: »
    All I do is wash them, drain... Cover with water and put on high until they start to boil . Let them boil about 5 mins. Then i reduce to low med heat, add seasonings and cook covered for 1 1/2 to 2 hours. Come out perfect every time.

    This is what I do as well. It seems to pass the yummy test with my 4yo! I freeze some in batches as well

  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    So if I skip soaking, they won't be chalky?
  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
    If they are dry, they needed to be cooked at a higher temperature or for longer
    Re the taste, instead of water you could use a boxed/canned chicken or vegetable broth like one of these:
    http://www.thekitchn.com/we-tried-5-brands-of-chicken-broth-and-heres-the-winner-grocery-taste-test-215129
    I also add about 1/4 head of garlic -- toss the garlic in with the broth and beans at the beginning.
  • sheldonklein
    sheldonklein Posts: 854 Member
    Beans aren't spicy unless you a add heat. Google spicy bean recipe and you'll get a zillion recipes. And as an alternative to overnight soaking, there is a quick soak method. Bring to a boil for 5 minutes, turn off the heat and cover for 1 hour. Drain and then cook normally. And I agree that you are cooking at too low of a temperature. Beans don't take 4 hours. More like 60 to 90 minutes.
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    RodaRose wrote: »
    If they are dry, they needed to be cooked at a higher temperature or for longer

    That's what I keep reading... I keep seeing that I need to soak them and then cook them for several hours. But after soaking for 12 and then cooking for 4 hours (I tasted at 1 hour and every hour afterward without noticing much change), I decided I need help.
  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
    So if I skip soaking, they won't be chalky?
    I sometimes skip soaking, but I always boil for five or ten minutes. Then I pour out the water and start with fresh water or the broth or half water/half broth.
    I do stay away from kidney beans as they are more complicated because some people react to them:
    http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Food-Poisoning-from-Undercooked-Beans
  • Cahgetsfit
    Cahgetsfit Posts: 1,912 Member
    get a pressure cooker. You won't even need to soak them if you use one. Stick in cooker cover with water like a few cms over - cook on high pressure for about 40 mins. Then you season it to make it yummy - a bit of olive oil, garlic and bay leaf and hmmm bacon or sausage!
  • PaytraB
    PaytraB Posts: 2,360 Member
    I don't usually soak my beans. Like others have mentioned, I boil them for about 10 minutes, then turn the heat down and simmer them until they are soft.
    Beans are fairly bland in taste unless you spice them up. Add some spices of choice to the cooking water or broth (broth will add more flavor). Google "spicy dry beans" for some recipes to try.
  • christefeimster
    christefeimster Posts: 9 Member
    I was born and raised in New Oreans and cooking Red Beans is like second nature for us not to mention a weekly meal! I would suggest looking up a reciepe for New Orleans style Red Beans and rice. Not sure if you live in an area that sell Camilla Red Beans(they have a recipe on the back of the pack) as for your beans coming out chalky you must add more water and cook them low and slow. I would be happy to give you a reciepe but mine is committed to memory so I never actually measured anything but I'm sure if you follow the list of ingredients your beans will not be bland. So here goes

    -1lb dry beans(I don't soak but some people do soak them overnight)
    -Smoked meat(sausage, neck bone, ham pieces or pickled meats- your choice anything goes when it comes to cooking a pot of beans I use smoked turkey leg now but most of my family use smoke sausage or pickled meat I would say about 1lb of meat to give some flavor I'm sure I use more at times
    -Season blend- (1 cup of Guidry fresh cut works well or do what we call a trinity which is chop 1 fresh white onion, 1 bell pepper (seeds removed), celery(2 ribs) and parsley)
    -couple bay leaves
    -salt and pepper to taste
    -couple dashes of Tabasco( only if you want a lil kick)

    Place beans, meat, seasoning, bay leaves salt, pepper and Tabasco in a 6 quart pot and cover completely with water. This would probably be around 8 cups if not more. Cover and bring to a rolling boil (may need to position top so that your contents don't boil over) after boiling for about 15 min turn heat down to a slow boil and allow to cook on a low slow boil until they become creamy and very very soft to touch...this could take up to 3 hours or more, So stir offen to make sure they don't begin to stick to bottom of pot. Serve over rice

    Sorry for the long post and if something is not clearly understood. Hope this help.
  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
    edited August 2015
    According to this, soaking in salt is the preferred method for tender and creamy beans --
    -- use salt for soaking the beans for 8 to 24 hours.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk9YnmnUnSY
  • LKArgh
    LKArgh Posts: 5,178 Member
    If the beans are older, then you might boil them for 10 hours and still they might not have a nice texture. And it is very hard to tell if they are from the last harvest or 3 years old, so when it comes to dry beans, sometimes you are just not lucky. Do not expect them to have a spicy taste, unless you cook them with spices. A good trick is to throw an onion and some garlic in from the beginning, and when the beans become soft and are almost done, add whatever else your recipe calls for. It helps them absorb more taste.
  • Aross83
    Aross83 Posts: 936 Member
    I cook dried beans in the crockpot. they come out so much better than boiling them.
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    I tried again, did not soak beans. Brought to a boil for 5 min., then added some cajun seasoning and cooked on medium heat for 2 hours. I added some cayenne pepper and Louisiana hot sauce towards the end. They came out soft this time and had the spicy taste I was looking for (though the hot sauce didn't get evenly mixed and I think they can be better yet). But a lot of them were split as well.

    So I just needed to turn up the heat. Now I just need to perfect the blend and distribution of spices. Thank you all for your help!
  • Chabela53
    Chabela53 Posts: 130 Member
    No you don't need a pressure cooker. The best thing is to soak them at least overnight before starting to cook. I always change the water at that point. Red beans are not spicy. You need to add your spices to them. I use usually, cayenne pepper or any hot pepper you like along with salt. They are basically plain until you season them to your liking.
  • LegalMom0928
    LegalMom0928 Posts: 46 Member
    I soak mine overnight in salt water. Then I cook them in the crockpot with all my seasonings, on high, all day (6-8 hours). When they are good and tender, they are done! This is also how I do pinto beans and southern style green beans.

    I agree that the key is how you season them. There are lots of great recipes out there, or you could pick up a packaged on from the store, too.

    It takes time and a little practice, but definitely worth it!
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    Glad to hear it worked better the second time. There must be a knack to this because I never have trouble but my daughter complains hers never work out the same as mine. She buys canned.

    Here's a quick soak method that starts with a boil.
    http://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-quicksoak-dried-beans-cooking-lessons-from-the-kitchn-198610

    Lately I've been soaking overnight, changed the water, brought to a boil and simmer for about thirty minutes, then I put it in a slow cooker with all the spices and things for another 4-6 hours.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    red beans aren't spicy unless you add spicy stuff to them. if you're not cooking the beans with any spices, they're going to be pretty bland...just like dumping some beans out of a can.
  • quiltlovinlisa
    quiltlovinlisa Posts: 1,710 Member
    Glad you figured it out!
  • shaumom
    shaumom Posts: 1,003 Member
    jgnatca wrote: »
    Glad to hear it worked better the second time. There must be a knack to this because I never have trouble but my daughter complains hers never work out the same as mine.

    Just out of curiosity - she didn't move to a higher elevation by any chance, did she? One thing we discovered after a move is that it takes longer to cook beans at a higher elevation - the boiling point is lower. If you get high enough in elevation, it's nearly impossible to get the beans soft, actually. Quite frustrating!
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    We live a few doors down from each other, LOL. I'm used to higher elevation cooking. We're pretty high here (2,201 feet from sea level) but I've lived as high as 4,199 feet.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    RodaRose wrote: »
    According to this, soaking in salt is the preferred method for tender and creamy beans --
    -- use salt for soaking the beans for 8 to 24 hours.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk9YnmnUnSY

    Thanks - you beat me to it - I made ATK's Cuban Rice and Beans last week and it was amazing. The recipe starts:

    Dissolve 1½ tablespoons salt in 2 quarts cold water in large bowl or container. Add beans and soak at room temperature for at least 8 hours and up to 24 hours. Drain and rinse well.

    (Of course, there are lots of other ingredients.)
  • shadowfax_c11
    shadowfax_c11 Posts: 1,942 Member
    Aross83 wrote: »
    I cook dried beans in the crockpot. they come out so much better than boiling them.

    I do this as well. No pre-soak. Just put them in a crock pot with enough water to cover. Ad water as needed to keep them covered and cook for as long as it takes for them to be the way I want them. Usually about 12 hours on low/auto-shift. When they are about right I drain the water and add seasoning and let them cook for another 2 hours or so.

  • Azurite27
    Azurite27 Posts: 554 Member
    I follow the directions on the bag and never have any issue. 4 hours is bit long. Mine are done around 1 1/2 hours (after an overnight soak or 1-2 hour quick soak). I usually put plenty of water in the pot though, not just a couple inches. I usually make 5-6 servings at a time and freeze them for quick rice and bean bowls.
  • sannaf36
    sannaf36 Posts: 19 Member
    Soaked beans take longer to cook. Bring to boil and keep on medium. Keep refilling water cuz it will evaporate and get absorbed. I would say cook for solid 3h. At the end, add tomato paste, ground cumin and chopped cilantro. Voila!
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,089 Member
    aggelikik wrote: »
    If the beans are older, then you might boil them for 10 hours and still they might not have a nice texture.

    ^^This is most likely the problem. It helps if you buy from a place that has a lot of turn-over, but even then, you don't if the beans they're stocking are from the most recent harvest.

    The only issue I see with your cooking methods is that you didn't mention whether you added water during the four hours of cooking -- I would expect just an inch of cover to cook down, and you want to make sure they have enough water throughout the cooking process.

    And as other have indicated, red beans are not spicy in and of themselves. You need to add spices.
  • ahoy_m8
    ahoy_m8 Posts: 3,053 Member
    I cook all kinds of beans, usually quick soak (I.e. Boil 2 min & sit and hour or two), but for red beans I have better luck with the overnight soak. I also start by frying bacon in the pot, then sauté onion, garlic, bell pepper in the bacon grease, then add beans and water. I'll throw in a couple bay leaves, fresh thyme, and a pork bone if I have one in the freezer left over from another meal. I use a couple red pepper flakes and tons of black pepper. They're usually done after a little over an hour. Feeling hungry now!