Have you tried high fat low carb diet ?

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Hi i am trying to lose a stone done it before by burning off 1000 calories in the gym and eating 1200 2 years on can't seem to shift a stone
I read someone lost 12 lbs in a month on a high fat low carb diet does it work ? What high fat foods did you eat ? Any meal plans
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  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
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    I'm sure someone lost 12 pound in a month on that, but fat was probably just 4 of those. You lose a bunch of water weight on low carbs, and if you ever start eating more carbs again that water weight comes right back.

    And eating 1200 while also burning an additional 1000 is not healthy in the slightest, man.

    Find out your maintenance calories with a calculator or trial and error, eat 500 below that. Eat low carb if you like to, or don't. It's no real difference for fat loss.
  • shakmalik
    shakmalik Posts: 29 Member
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    Hi thanks for the advise
    I will definitely try and eat 500 below maintenance
    Some people say don't eat after 7 is that a myth?
    I am just burning 7to 800 calories through cardio and eating 1500 but no weight loss and when I hit the weights I eat more look more stockier but want the athletic look
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
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    Are you logging your food intake properly? Weighing everything etc.
  • shakmalik
    shakmalik Posts: 29 Member
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    I am weighing out the food today
    Previous week I was just going of handfuls so this time next week I will weigh myself and will see results I'm determined thanks again
  • ki4eld
    ki4eld Posts: 1,215 Member
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    I'm on LCHF (although my fat isn't that high) and I like it. I also do some fasting, as I eat 12-7p only.

    However, @stevencloser is correct in that if you weigh your food and log properly, plus eat at a deficit, you'll lose. I eat LCHF because it makes me feel better and makes my guts happier. LCHF and timing my food isn't why I lose weight.
  • shakmalik
    shakmalik Posts: 29 Member
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    Hi thank you very much for your reply I will try not to eat after 7 looking forward to a challenge
  • ki4eld
    ki4eld Posts: 1,215 Member
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    shakmalik wrote: »
    Hi thank you very much for your reply I will try not to eat after 7 looking forward to a challenge

    Timing isn't a factor in weight loss. It simply works for me. If I eat within 2-3 hours of going to bed, I get reflux. Timing isn't why I lose! It's just what works for me to keep me at my best.

    You have this! It'll take time and as @stevencloser said... weigh, log, deficit. You got this!
  • sixxpoint
    sixxpoint Posts: 3,529 Member
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    1. Weight loss and reduction of bodyfat requires a caloric deficit; whether that is from calorie restriction, increased activity level, or both. Fad diets are not a factor in this equation. Stick with a rich variety of whole foods that fit your personal preferance and tolerance. Limit processed food intake. Hit your macro minimums.

    2. The time of day you consume your calories is of little to no importance. The same goes for the amount of meals a person consumes in a day. What really matters is total daily intake from all foods, regardless of timing or the number of meals. You can eat primarily at night or mainly in the morning. You can eat before workouts, after workouts, or train in a fasted state. You can consume 2,000 calories at once if that is your preference, or you can split that up into 3-5 meals if you desire. A routine that works for some people might not work for others.
  • bringon30
    bringon30 Posts: 75 Member
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    I eat LCHF. Why? Definitely not because it's a magical formula for weight loss! It is merely a tool for me to easily stay close to my calorie goal. Once I started reducing my carb intake, I realized just how many of my calories were coming from empty carb calories. I also started noticing that I wasn't craving the carb-heavy junk that I once craved ALL the time. High fat foods that I added to my diet were nuts, real butter, olive oil, and coconut oil mainly.

    Now, before anyone jumps on me for "demonizing a food group," that is not what I did. I merely explained why I like the low carb way of eating and why it works for me.

    As far as burning almost as many calories as you are eating, someone has already told you that is not healthy. Your body requires a certain amount of calories just to function! I'd also like to add that the timing of your meals has little to no effect on your weight loss. You can look at your calorie intake over a 24-hour period or take it weekly. Consume the proper amount of calories in a given time period and watch the weight start to drop. If the weight doesn't drop after a few weeks, then go back and be sure you are logging correctly. Good luck!
  • sixxpoint
    sixxpoint Posts: 3,529 Member
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    bringon30 wrote: »
    I realized just how many of my calories were coming from empty carb calories. I also started noticing that I wasn't craving the carb-heavy junk that I once craved ALL the time.

    Now, before anyone jumps on me for "demonizing a food group," that is not what I did. I merely explained why I like the low carb way of eating and why it works for me.

    True, although if a person limits processed junk foods, high fructose breads, cakes, cookies, ice cream, etc. then the carbs they do choose should be fairly nutritious and low calorie.

    Dietary fat is 9 calories per gram, the highest of the other macros by more than double. A person could easily make poor dietary fat food choices (like a single burger with 57 grams of fat) and go over their calories when factoring in the rest of their intake.

    The trick really is getting more involved with whole foods and limiting processed foods and not overeating... not by going low carb or high fat or vice versa... that choice is meaningless as it pertains to composing a rational diet.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
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    sixxpoint wrote: »
    Dietary fat is 9 calories per gram, the highest of the other macros by more than double. A person could easily make poor dietary fat food choices (like a single burger with 57 grams of fat) and go over their calories when factoring in the rest of their intake.

    LOL. A Big Mac has less than half that amount of fat.

  • sixxpoint
    sixxpoint Posts: 3,529 Member
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    yarwell wrote: »
    sixxpoint wrote: »
    Dietary fat is 9 calories per gram, the highest of the other macros by more than double. A person could easily make poor dietary fat food choices (like a single burger with 57 grams of fat) and go over their calories when factoring in the rest of their intake.

    LOL. A Big Mac has less than half that amount of fat.

    You're also getting like 4 oz. beef, if that?

    Big Mac has 33 grams fat btw.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
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    sixxpoint wrote: »
    yarwell wrote: »
    sixxpoint wrote: »
    Dietary fat is 9 calories per gram, the highest of the other macros by more than double. A person could easily make poor dietary fat food choices (like a single burger with 57 grams of fat) and go over their calories when factoring in the rest of their intake.

    LOL. A Big Mac has less than half that amount of fat.

    You're also getting like 4 oz. beef, if that?

    Big Mac has 33 grams fat btw.

    Other countries are available, but http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/getnutrition/nutritionfacts.pdf says 28g.

    Either way, eating so much meat that you got 57g of fat could indeed be a poor dietary choice.
  • sixxpoint
    sixxpoint Posts: 3,529 Member
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    yarwell wrote: »
    sixxpoint wrote: »
    yarwell wrote: »
    sixxpoint wrote: »
    Dietary fat is 9 calories per gram, the highest of the other macros by more than double. A person could easily make poor dietary fat food choices (like a single burger with 57 grams of fat) and go over their calories when factoring in the rest of their intake.

    LOL. A Big Mac has less than half that amount of fat.

    You're also getting like 4 oz. beef, if that?

    Big Mac has 33 grams fat btw.

    Other countries are available, but http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/getnutrition/nutritionfacts.pdf says 28g.

    Either way, eating so much meat that you got 57g of fat could indeed be a poor dietary choice.

    It's not uncommon to get a rather large burger at a restaurant. 8 oz. of 80/20 ground beef is 45 grams of fat for the beef alone. Some restaurants do a 70/30 combo of protein/fat, which would be even more calories at the same weight. Factor in the cheese, toppings, bread, etc. and you could easily see 57 grams of fat in a real hamburger (not McDonalds).
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
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    shakmalik wrote: »
    Some people say don't eat after 7 is that a myth?

    Yeah, it's a myth.

    I usually eat after 9 pm, and I lost weight without any problems.

    (I also usually eat breakfast before 6 am.)
  • sixxpoint
    sixxpoint Posts: 3,529 Member
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    If you are interested in long term maintenance it would appear low fat may be the most effective.


    All of these studies would disagree:

    Dietary carbohydrate-to-fat ratio: influence on whole-body nitrogen retention, substrate utilization, and hormone response in healthy male subjects. McCargar LJ, Clandinin MT, Belcastro AN, Walker K. Am J Clin Nutr. 1989 Jun;49(6):1169-78.

    Macronutrient Intakes as Determinants of Dietary Protein and Amino Acid Adequacy. Millward, DJ. J. Nutr. June 1, 2004 vol. 134 no. 6 1588S-1596S.

    High-Density Lipoprotein Cholesterol and Particle Concentrations, Carotid Atherosclerosis, and Coronary Events: Multi-Ethnic Study of Atherosclerosis (MESA) J Am Coll Cardiol 2012;60:508-16

    Clinical Utility of Inflammatory Markers and Advanced Lipoprotein Testing: Advice from an Expert Panel of Lipid Specialists Journal of Clinical Lipidology, 2011;5(5);338-367

    Clinical Implications of Discordance between Low-Density Lipoprotein Cholesterol and Particle Number: Multi-Ethnic Study of Atherosclerosis Journal of Clinical Lipidology, 2011;5(2);105-113

    Underappreciated Opportunities for Low Density Lipoprotein Management in Patients with Cardiometabolic Risk Atherosclerosis. 2010;213:1-7

    Position Statement from the AACC Lipoproteins and Vascular Diseases Division Working Group on Best Practices Clinical Chemistry. 2009;55:407-419

    Low Density Lipoprotein and Apolipoprotein B: Clinical Use in Patients with Coronary Heart Disease Current Cardiology Reports. 2009;11:468-475

    Lipoprotein Management in Patients with Cardiometabolic Risk: Consensus Statement from the American Diabetes Association and the American College of Cardiology Foundation Diabetes Care 2008;31(4);811-812

    LDL Particle Number and Risk of Future Cardiovascular Disease in the Framingham Offspring Study – Implications for LDL Management J Clin Lipidology. 2007;1:583-592
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
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    bringon30 wrote: »
    I eat LCHF. Why? Definitely not because it's a magical formula for weight loss! It is merely a tool for me to easily stay close to my calorie goal. Once I started reducing my carb intake, I realized just how many of my calories were coming from empty carb calories. I also started noticing that I wasn't craving the carb-heavy junk that I once craved ALL the time. High fat foods that I added to my diet were nuts, real butter, olive oil, and coconut oil mainly.

    Now, before anyone jumps on me for "demonizing a food group," that is not what I did. I merely explained why I like the low carb way of eating and why it works for me.

    Makes sense to me.

    I never did LCHF (I like fat, but I don't think I'd enjoy exchanging carbs for fat to that extent), but I did find cutting carbs an easy way to create a deficit when I started. I cut fat too (and cut down on various office treats that I ate because they were there -- most of which tend to be carbs+fat), but it was reasonably painless for me to cut down on the starches I ate, like bread, rice, smaller servings of potatoes and pasta, etc. -- not because I think any of these foods are unhealthy or "junk," but because I tend to be perfectly satisfied with smaller servings or replacing them with non-starchy vegetables at some meals.

    Low carb (or reducing carbs), like any other strategy that helps you create a deficit, can be a perfectly good tool.
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
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    I too eat LCHF; I actually eat quite low carb and am in ketosis. I began for health reasons and have found it has made eating at a deficit and losing pretty easy.

    I eat 5% carbs, 25% protein and 70% fat. My daily calories average out to 1500kcal, so I should lose about 1.5 lbs per week if nothing changed.

    I started LCHF at 185lbs (at 5'8") around June 24th. By July I had lost 5lbs (much of that was water I would guess). I lost almost 10lbs in July (to about 172lbs) and lost another 10 lbs in August to 160.8lbs this morning. I was walking about twice a week in July, but not in August. My BMI went from 28.1 (overweight) to 24.4 (normal) in just over two months.

    I was initially hoping to get to 140lbs by March, but I think I could hit it by the new year.

    LCHF is a good tool for improved health and weight loss. A caloric deficit is definitely needed to lose though.