1200 calories food intake - no weight loss

pianoplayer61
pianoplayer61 Posts: 4 Member
edited November 2024 in Health and Weight Loss
I've started keeping track of what I eat and I find that generally I eat about 1200 calories. Maybe twice a week I go over that. When I completed the daily menu it comes on and says I'll lose 10 pounds in 5 weeks. That never happens. I am always the same 220 lbs. So, does that mean I need to go to 1000 calories to lose weight. I walk the dogs every day so I get some exercise. Can anyone tell me what I should be doing. I am borderline diabetic so I have to lose weight or my doctor says he is going to put me on medication. In addition I am hypothyroid and have Hashimotos. I used to be 120 after 3 kids was 150 and then back to 120 and since my historectomy and being diagnosed with the thyroid condition for the past 10 yrs have been at 220. Sorry for the life story but any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks.

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  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    Is your logging accurate - weighed foods etc - so you can be sure of your calorie intake ? If you aren't tall your medical issues and age work against you to reduce metabolic rate. Reducing calories may be required, or you could try specifically targeting carbohydrates.

    An open diary would help - settings, bottom left, Public
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    are you using food scale to weigh all solid foods?

    are you on any medications for your medical condition?
  • Maxematics
    Maxematics Posts: 2,287 Member
    A few questions:
    1. How long have you been eating 1200 calories?
    2. How do you know you're generally eating 1200 calories per day? Do you weigh your food on a scale, use measuring cups, or just make estimates?
    3. The days you go over 1200, how much are you going over by?
    4. Do you log your dog walking as exercise? If so, how do you estimate your calorie burn? Do you eat your exercise calories back?

    Also, making your diary public temporarily would help anyone viewing this thread gain insight to your daily habits.
  • diannethegeek
    diannethegeek Posts: 14,776 Member
    First and foremost, it might be best to check-in with your doc and see if all your levels are well controlled. Otherwise, these are my general tips:

    1. If it's been less than 3 weeks, so don't sweat it! Normal fluctuations happen and unfortunately sometimes we stall for a week or two even when we're doing everything right. Give your body some time to catch up with the changes you're making.

    2. If you aren't already, be sure that you're logging everything. Sometimes people forget about things like veggies, drinks, cooking oils, and condiments. For some people these can add up to enough to halt your weight loss progress.

    3. Consider buying a food scale. They're about $10-$20 dollars in the US and easily found at places like Amazon, Target, and Walmart. Measuring cups and spoons are great, but they do come with some degree of inaccuracy. A food scale will be more accurate, and for some people it makes a big difference.

    4. Logging accurately also means choosing accurate entries in the database. There are a lot of user-entered entries that are off. Some of them are WAY off. Double-check that you're using good entries and/or using the recipe builder instead of someone else's homemade entries.

    5. If you're eating back your exercise calories and you're relying on gym machine readouts or MFP's estimates, it might be best to eat back just 50-75% of those. Certain activities tend to be overestimated. If you're using an HRM or activity tracker, it might be a good idea to look into their accuracy and be sure that yours is calibrated properly.

    6. If you're taking any cheat days that go over your calorie limits, it might be best to cut them out for a few weeks and see what happens. Some people go way over their calorie needs without realizing it when they don't track.

    7. If you weigh yourself frequently (more than once or twice a week), consider using a program like trendweight to even out the fluctuations. You could be losing weight but just don't see it because of the daily ups and downs.
  • Mezzie1024
    Mezzie1024 Posts: 380 Member
    You have some legitimate barriers to your weight loss that I can't give any advice about. Here are some things to ask yourself, though:

    1. Are you weighing all semi-solids and solids and measuring all liquids? You may be eating more than you think.
    2. Are you logging every single thing that you put in your mouth? Some people think they don't have to log fruits and vegetables, for example, but it all adds up.
    3. On those two days a week you go over, how much do you go over? I can easily eat several thousand calories in a day I'm not actively trying to be in a deficit; maybe you can too. It doesn't even seem like that much food if it's calorie dense.
    4. Based on the numbers you've given us, you have your goal set to a 1,000 calorie deficit per day. If that is too restrictive, that could lead to overeating some days. If you log the days you go over, how many calories do you end up over, if any, in a single week?
    5. Do you actually have a 1,000 calorie deficit? I ask because MFP won't give you a goal lower than 1200. For example, for me to lose 1lb/week, I would have to eat 1050 calories/day. MFP will still tell me 1200. I actually eat 1300-1400 and I lose about half a pound a week, which is a good pace for me. Perhaps because MFP is trying to protect your health by not letting you set your goal under 1200, you have inflated expectations. If your TDEE is less than 2200, you won't lose 10 pounds in five weeks on a 1200 calorie diet. And that's fine. Honestly, I think you should eat a bit more once you get your logging under control (pending your answers to 1, 2, and 3). Maybe try for one pound of loss a week, which would be a deficit of 500 calories/day and might help you feel more satisfied so you won't feel the need to go over your calorie limit a couple times a week.

    My advice:
    1. Find a TDEE calculator and get your TDEE number.
    2. Manually set your MFP calorie goal to your TDEE - 500 for 1lb/week or TDEE - 250 for 1/2lb/week.
    3. Eat to that calorie goal (including at least half your calories earned from exercise -- I eat them all. If your *only* exercise is a relatively short walk with the dogs and you otherwise sit most of the day, then you may skip logging that, probably) every single day for a month. Log carefully and as exactly as you can get using a scale.
    4. Weigh yourself regularly (I do it daily; it's really up to you, but remember to do it around the same time of day and not to worry about fluctuations).
    5. Bring all the data you collect -- your food diary and your tracked weight -- to your doctor. If you're losing, great! If not, you'll need to make changes, but with your thyroid issues, it's best for your doctor to guide you there.

    My advice is just what I would do in your situation. I hope you find it helpful.
  • pianoplayer61
    pianoplayer61 Posts: 4 Member
    Thank you all so much for taking the time to answer. I really appreciate it. I have made my diary public.

    I have to admit, I was logging good for awhile, then I slumped because I wasn't losing. I'm starting back logging. I don't measure everything with measuring cups and scales, but I usually use the phone scan feature to scan labels unless I eat in the café in my building for a salad w/chicken or a BLT. They don't have any available nutrition information so I just use what is available in the search.

    I've been measuring on and off for a few years now but I use the hand method of measuring. It's just been the last few months that I've been more diligent. I lived with my grandparents and it was just a habit to eat like a diabetic. They measured everything, so I can eye portions pretty good. I didn't want to go back to the doctor until I'd made some progress. I'm 5'4". I am not taking medicine for the diabetes because the doctor said if I could get my weight and numbers down I might not need it. At first, it was exciting when I saw the extra calories I could eat. But then I quickly gained back the three pounds that I lost at first. I only weigh myself once a week.

    Yes, my only exercise is to walk the dogs once a day for about a mile. I went online and got this: BMR is: 1576 Calories/Day Your TDEE is: 1812 Calories/Day That can't be right. I sit all day for work, except for the dog walk.

    Thanks again. I have a scale I can use. I'll try to be more diligent about measuring.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Thank you all so much for taking the time to answer. I really appreciate it. I have made my diary public.

    I have to admit, I was logging good for awhile, then I slumped because I wasn't losing. I'm starting back logging. I don't measure everything with measuring cups and scales, but I usually use the phone scan feature to scan labels unless I eat in the café in my building for a salad w/chicken or a BLT. They don't have any available nutrition information so I just use what is available in the search.

    I've been measuring on and off for a few years now but I use the hand method of measuring. It's just been the last few months that I've been more diligent. I lived with my grandparents and it was just a habit to eat like a diabetic. They measured everything, so I can eye portions pretty good. I didn't want to go back to the doctor until I'd made some progress. I'm 5'4". I am not taking medicine for the diabetes because the doctor said if I could get my weight and numbers down I might not need it. At first, it was exciting when I saw the extra calories I could eat. But then I quickly gained back the three pounds that I lost at first. I only weigh myself once a week.

    Yes, my only exercise is to walk the dogs once a day for about a mile. I went online and got this: BMR is: 1576 Calories/Day Your TDEE is: 1812 Calories/Day That can't be right. I sit all day for work, except for the dog walk.

    Thanks again. I have a scale I can use. I'll try to be more diligent about measuring.

    the bolded part is your problem, you are more than likely eating more than you think.

    get a food scale and weigh as many solids as possible.
  • barryplumber
    barryplumber Posts: 401 Member
    Four days of logging and gone over everyday. It will take you a few weeks to get balanced out and start losing. One other issue is processed foods contain a lot of sodium, this will cause you to retain a lot of water.
  • SherryTeach
    SherryTeach Posts: 2,836 Member
    The estimates for café food are probably way too low. See if you can eat more food that you prepare yourself at home; give accurate logging a few weeks of consistency and see if that doesn't solve the problem.
  • XavierNusum
    XavierNusum Posts: 720 Member
    Four days of logging and gone over everyday. It will take you a few weeks to get balanced out and start losing. One other issue is processed foods contain a lot of sodium, this will cause you to retain a lot of water.

    I think the several days there is nothing are way more important.

    OP...You really need to commit to logging EVERYDAY and every thing you eat. The past 2 months show big gaps in logging. In addition there are several days that are over.

    Give yourself some time to get into a routine. Start by making sure you log everyday, regardless of what you eat, but log everything everyday. Then work on adding in better choices and taking out not so good choices. In short, I don't think you've been consistent enough to gauge success yet.
  • PinkPixiexox
    PinkPixiexox Posts: 4,142 Member
    I was on a 1200 calorie diet a few years back and it got to the point where I did stop losing weight despite eating only 1200 per day and working out like crazy Monday-Friday. The problem for me was it really was a Monday-Friday thing. Come the weekend, I would quite literally binge on anything I could find. I would have 2 massive bowls of sugary cereal, maybe some cookies and a few slices of toast smothered in butter JUST for my breakfast. Don't get me started on my lunch and dinner..! Monday morning I was back to being strict on my 1200 and exercise. I'm quite lucky in the fact that I didn't gain as much as I probably should have due to my very strict weekdays but I CERTAINLY was not losing.

    It is SO important to track your food and don't go wildly off track. The odd treat here and there is perfectly okay but everything in moderation. It really is surprising how many calories is in food and it does all add up very very quickly.
  • pianoplayer61
    pianoplayer61 Posts: 4 Member
    Thanks so much everyone. You are all right. I need to be more strict. Take last night for instance. I knew how much I should eat, and I ate twice as much as I should have. If I hadn't I would have made 1200 calories easily. I also have noticed the sodium count is way up sometimes. Especially for frozen dinners and things like hot dogs. I just have to get into more of a routine and measure everything.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Thanks so much everyone. You are all right. I need to be more strict. Take last night for instance. I knew how much I should eat, and I ate twice as much as I should have. If I hadn't I would have made 1200 calories easily. I also have noticed the sodium count is way up sometimes. Especially for frozen dinners and things like hot dogs. I just have to get into more of a routine and measure everything.

    what did you set your weight loss goal to? If more than one pound per week, maybe you should consider changing it so you have some more calories to play with. 1200 is insanely low...
  • XavierNusum
    XavierNusum Posts: 720 Member
    Thanks so much everyone. You are all right. I need to be more strict. Take last night for instance. I knew how much I should eat, and I ate twice as much as I should have. If I hadn't I would have made 1200 calories easily. I also have noticed the sodium count is way up sometimes. Especially for frozen dinners and things like hot dogs. I just have to get into more of a routine and measure everything.

    This is really the key. Remember it's roughly 3500 calories for 1 pound, so eating over 1, 2 or even 4 days may not cause gain (unless it's an epic feast), but it can delay you getting to that much of a deficit.

    Another very important point that @PinkPixiexox made was famine then feast (I don't like using the word binge). You restrict yourself so much during that week that your body literally forces you (with hormonal shifts) to feast first chance you get. Taking a more concervative deficit will allow you to satisfy cravings with small treats that still fit within your goals. This makes you more likely to continue with the process AND more likely to log eveyday becuase there is no "shame" associated with the things you ate. Jillian Michaels puts it as 80/20. 80% of what you eat should come from healthy sources and 20% from stuff you just like the taste of.
  • jacklifts
    jacklifts Posts: 396 Member
    Food scale is a must. No eye balling or guesstimating (in the beginning).
    If that doesn't work, search youtube for reverse dieting
  • pianoplayer61
    pianoplayer61 Posts: 4 Member
    Well, you guys were right. I didn't think a little here or there would matter, but it does. I lost 2.5 lbs this week! Thanks for your encouragement. It really does help when you think its a lost cause and start giving up.
  • diannethegeek
    diannethegeek Posts: 14,776 Member
    Well, you guys were right. I didn't think a little here or there would matter, but it does. I lost 2.5 lbs this week! Thanks for your encouragement. It really does help when you think its a lost cause and start giving up.

    I'm glad that it's working for you! Thanks for coming back to let us know :)
  • Yi5hedr3
    Yi5hedr3 Posts: 2,696 Member
    You are the perfect candidate for a ketogenic diet/lifestlye. Get a copy of "The Rosedale Diet" and read it, along with "keto clarity".
  • debtay123
    debtay123 Posts: 1,327 Member
    I am glad to see that using MFP accurately is truly helping you- calories in/ calories out-
  • MarziPanda95
    MarziPanda95 Posts: 1,326 Member
    Yi5hedr3 wrote: »
    You are the perfect candidate for a ketogenic diet/lifestlye. Get a copy of "The Rosedale Diet" and read it, along with "keto clarity".

    No they aren't. OP came back and said that they tightened their logging and have now lost. It's not a problem anymore.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,055 Member
    edited September 2015
    Well, you guys were right. I didn't think a little here or there would matter, but it does. I lost 2.5 lbs this week! Thanks for your encouragement. It really does help when you think its a lost cause and start giving up.

    Hooray! Thanks for the update :smile:

    Someone should keep track of all these threads where posters tightened up their logging and lost weight. @diannethegeek - I nominate you >:)

  • hamlet1222
    hamlet1222 Posts: 459 Member
    Interesting thread. One alternative the OP could have used was to continue with their previous logging method, and cut what they're eating by 15%. Like a bowler who can't help the ball veering right, as long as it veers right consistently they can just bowl it from standing slightly to the left - and get a strike every time.
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