CARBS?!

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  • PinkPixiexox
    PinkPixiexox Posts: 4,142 Member
    Carbs are NOT the enemy! :]

    When I was overweight, people suggested cutting out my carbs which to me, was totally unrealistic. I have lost 30lbs in 5 months and a good 60% of my daily calories are carbs - I enjoy every second of it.
  • skimbrough28
    skimbrough28 Posts: 21 Member
    grg243 wrote: »
    I've lost 30 lbs by ditching bad carbs. Only 10 more to go!

    Don't ditch all carbs, just cut back on fast carbs. Veggies, legumes (beans), nuts and some fruits (like strawberries) are slow carbs that are great for weight loss. Just skip on the pasta, bread and anything with refined sugar in it.

    It sounds a lot harder than it really is. The less you have the fast carbs, the less you crave them. At least, that's what happened with me and my hubby. So just stick with it for at least 2 weeks before giving up.

    Also, cheat meals are fine, as long as they're in moderation. My ideal cheat meal is a 6" subway sub. Ahhhhh, bread. The greatest of the fast carbs! Hahaha. But really, going balls to the wall with cheat meals is a great way to get off track. Just remember, even cheat meals should stay within your calorie goal!

    To help with the initial cravings, buy some apples and peanut butter for when you absolutely MUST have something sweet. It won't taste like that chocolate cake you're craving, but you'll feel better after eating it instead of ashamed/defeated.

  • msf74
    msf74 Posts: 3,498 Member
    boydljodi wrote: »
    Carbs cut them completely or are the okay in moderation. Iv had a LOT of people say they lost so much by just ditching the carbs. Whats your opinion?

    I'd say try reducing carbs and see if you like it. If not, then don't.

    A calories deficit, personal preference and adherence gets you the distance however you choose to go about it.

    Be happy ;)
  • Yi5hedr3
    Yi5hedr3 Posts: 2,696 Member
    Bottom line - the lower your carbs the healthier you'll be.
  • bendyourkneekatie
    bendyourkneekatie Posts: 696 Member
    Yi5hedr3 wrote: »
    Bottom line - the lower your carbs the healthier you'll be.

    Lol
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    Carbs are the body's preferred fuel source. The reason that people lose weight rapidly when greatly reducing carbs in their diet is because each gram of stored carbohydrates results in about three grams worth of water stored along with it. Deplete the stored carbs, reduce the stored water ... a loss of water weight rather than fat. For the body to tap into stored fats requires a caloric deficit. If that is done through a low carb diet ... high carb ... something in the middle ... is a personal choice that depends on what that person can sustain through loss and into maintenance.



    Yi5hedr3 wrote: »
    Bottom line - the lower your carbs the healthier you'll be.

    So, avoiding fruits and vegetables results in greater health? That is what you're advocating with that post.
  • Florida_Superstar
    Florida_Superstar Posts: 194 Member
    Unless a doctor has told you not to eat carbs (due to a metabolic condition), you need carbs, especially if you exercise. I ate low carb for 6 months because of all the hype. I had no energy and was always hungry. So I switched back to high carb and feel great again. My weight stayed exactly the same high carb and low carb. The reason people often lose weight when they eat low carb is that a) they lose water weight and b) their carb restriction results in lower calories. Carbs don't make you gain weight, excess calories do. If you like carbs, you should eat them.
  • dubird
    dubird Posts: 1,849 Member
    edited September 2015
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    dubird wrote: »
    The only reason to cut carbs is if you have a doctor diagnosed reason for doing so. Carbs are not evil. They don't carry around pitchforks that stab your insides to hold onto fat. I haven't cut any carbs and lost 48 lbs. Now, my husband has T2 diabetes, so he has to eat less carbs, but that's the only reason. Otherwise, he'd never have cut his!

    TL;DR: If your doctor tells you that you have a medical reason that you need to lower or cut out carbs, listen to them. Otherwise, you're fine. Just eat less of EVERYTHING to lose weight and you'll succeed.

    There's always personal preference, and preserving future health.

    Personal preference is fine, what I have issue with is the people that INSIST that lowering carbs is the ONLY real reason that people can lose weight or add muscle or insert-health-benefit-here. Unless you have a medical issue (and the number of people who actually do have a medical issue is not that many), carbs aren't a problem. Ok, well, unless ALL your carbs come from cake, but then your issues have nothing to do with carbs themselves. XD
  • patstar5
    patstar5 Posts: 7 Member
    I've lost 27 lbs in less than 3 months by ditching grains and eating 20g or less carbs a day.
  • pinkys008
    pinkys008 Posts: 55 Member
    A big part of my excess calories comes from sugary food and baked goods. These have a lot more calories than they have health benefits. While I don't "cut them out completely", I do have to re-think how much of these items makes sense to have. For example, it's really hard for me to maintain a healthy level of calories if I get a couple candy bars from the vending machine most days. I don't "need" those candy bars, I don't get anything positive from them in my diet. Bringing an apple with me to work, and skipping the vending machine altogether is a big change to my daily intake.

    I think this is what makes sense for cutting carbs - figure out what you eat that has the most sugar & flour, and significantly reduce the amount of that stuff you consume. Your body does need carbs, but some carbs are included in your other foods - fruits & vegetables for example. Eat plenty of those, and cut back on the sweets.
  • doralim1990
    doralim1990 Posts: 76 Member
    Carbs arent bad if they are the "right" carbs. It is needed to fuel your body and your body basically run on carbs. Good carbs are rice, potatoes, oats, millets, sweet potatoes. It is less processed and keeps you full.

    Bad carbs are loaded with oils, animal fats and sugar like white bread, fries, etc. It is not the carbs in these that makes them bad. It is the oils, butters, animal fats and sugar.

    When you go on low carbs, you're basically losing water weight and muscles. You can easily put on weight back.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    Carbs.
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  • pinkys008
    pinkys008 Posts: 55 Member
    Also carbs:
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  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    While I do 5% carbs, 15% protein and 80% fats for pain management I really do enjoy the other side effects as well.

    Being able to pig out every day and still lose weight is a new experience for this old man. I love not being hungry or having cravings for carbs now. My carb fuel gauge must be broken because I could eat and eat and still eat more carbs during the same meal. With fats I fill up and just push the food back because I feel so stuff.

    Keep in mind I am 64 and abused carbs for 40 years which I now do not advise others to do so.

    Some of my fat sources are coconut oil, heavy whipping cream (36% butter fat), eggs, bacon, coconut flakes and almonds. My first cup of coffee/cocoa has 800 calories and is basically carb free.

    If you can eat carbs and require no meds because of it then have at carbs. Not sure why my body decided to respond as if carbs are toxic to it.

    One thing that helped me leave carbs in my case was learning that medically humans do not require eating in carbs to have full health. Yes my emotional connection to carbs was hard to break but after two weeks going off carbs cold turkey the carb cravings just faded way quickly.

    I do hope one does not have carb related medical issues but if one does I hope my story helps you know there is life after CARBS. It is awesome in my case.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    dubird wrote: »
    The only reason to cut carbs is if you have a doctor diagnosed reason for doing so. Carbs are not evil. They don't carry around pitchforks that stab your insides to hold onto fat. I haven't cut any carbs and lost 48 lbs. Now, my husband has T2 diabetes, so he has to eat less carbs, but that's the only reason. Otherwise, he'd never have cut his!

    TL;DR: If your doctor tells you that you have a medical reason that you need to lower or cut out carbs, listen to them. Otherwise, you're fine. Just eat less of EVERYTHING to lose weight and you'll succeed.

    There's always personal preference, and preserving future health.

    so if you eat carbs, you're not preserving your future health? carbs the devil right...gonna kill ya?

    if you truly don't believe carbs are the devil then you wouldn't suggest carbs being a detriment to future health...

    ironically, some of the healthiest diets include plenty of carbs...like, IDK...the Mediterranean diet which is basically the blue print for the way I eat...but I guess that's putting my future health at risk?
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    edited September 2015
    Yi5hedr3 wrote: »
    Bottom line - the lower your carbs the healthier you'll be.

    please tell me more....
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    pinkys008 wrote: »
    Also carbs:
    ihops-butterscotch-rocks-pancake.jpg?w=515
    the-pros-and-cons-of-a-high-carbohydrate-diet_1.jpg
    pasta.gif
    synthetic-diet.jpg

    you can not eat that stuff and make better nutritional decisions as to what your carbs consist of...that doesn't mean you have to low carb...

    man...y'all are like some kind of cult or something....

    the foundation of my diet is basically what jgnatca posted...but apparently this is a detriment to my health according to the cult following here...
  • Twibbly
    Twibbly Posts: 1,065 Member
    I do best with much lower carbs and higher fat than generally recommended. My joints don't hurt, my energy goes up, I don't get heartburn or near as many digestive issues, and my anxiety goes away. The 15 pounds I went down were just a bonus.

    People's bodies are different. No two are exactly alike. You have to find what works best for you. If you do decide to try cutting down carbs, make sure to drink plenty of water and get more salt than usual.
  • pinkys008
    pinkys008 Posts: 55 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    you can not eat that stuff and make better nutritional decisions as to what your carbs consist of...that doesn't mean you have to low carb...

    man...y'all are like some kind of cult or something....

    the foundation of my diet is basically what jgnatca posted...but apparently this is a detriment to my health according to the cult following here...

    I'm not in the low carb cult, I'm in the less added sugar, less refined flour cult. People who are asking about cutting carbs aren't usually people with an excess of legumes in their diet. Just saying. A whole lot of the "junk" food can be easily identified by the surplus of sugar & white flour in the processing.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    edited September 2015
    pinkys008 wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    you can not eat that stuff and make better nutritional decisions as to what your carbs consist of...that doesn't mean you have to low carb...

    man...y'all are like some kind of cult or something....

    the foundation of my diet is basically what jgnatca posted...but apparently this is a detriment to my health according to the cult following here...

    I'm not in the low carb cult, I'm in the less added sugar, less refined flour cult. People who are asking about cutting carbs aren't usually people with an excess of legumes in their diet. Just saying. A whole lot of the "junk" food can be easily identified by the surplus of sugar & white flour in the processing.

    according to the low carb cult here, all carbs are detrimental to future health and whatnot...i've had this discussion with them before...carbs are evil...they are very afraid...

    i would also add that much of the junk food posted is high fat as well...
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    pinkys008 wrote: »
    Also carbs:
    ihops-butterscotch-rocks-pancake.jpg?w=515

    THIS has my name written all OVER it!
  • lyndefisher
    lyndefisher Posts: 54 Member
    I didn't completely cut carbs but have cut back drastically. I try to stay away from whole wheat products because of gallstones and stomach issues. We have switched to gluten free pastas when we do have them, gluten free breads, gluten free taco shells and gluten free tortilla shells and have found them all to be tasty. Plus, I am having less stomach issues so it works. I have lost 25 lbs in the last three months and also found that my cravings for carbs has lessened. I try to eat more fruits and veggies and less breads and pastas. Like people have said, everything in moderation! Your body does need some carbs!
  • rhyolite_
    rhyolite_ Posts: 188 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    pinkys008 wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    you can not eat that stuff and make better nutritional decisions as to what your carbs consist of...that doesn't mean you have to low carb...

    man...y'all are like some kind of cult or something....

    the foundation of my diet is basically what jgnatca posted...but apparently this is a detriment to my health according to the cult following here...

    I'm not in the low carb cult, I'm in the less added sugar, less refined flour cult. People who are asking about cutting carbs aren't usually people with an excess of legumes in their diet. Just saying. A whole lot of the "junk" food can be easily identified by the surplus of sugar & white flour in the processing.

    according to the low carb cult here, all carbs are detrimental to future health and whatnot...i've had this discussion with them before...carbs are evil...they are very afraid...

    i would also add that much of the junk food posted is high fat as well...

    I was also going to point out that the images posted of the "evil" carbs had high fat contents as well (minus a few exceptions).
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    pinkys008 wrote: »
    Also carbs:
    ihops-butterscotch-rocks-pancake.jpg?w=515

    THIS has my name written all OVER it!


    I do see your name on it, I think I see on the third pancake down on the right next the "nut" ;)
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    Yi5hedr3 wrote: »
    Bottom line - the lower your carbs the healthier you'll be.

    please tell me more....

    That guy only does drive-by posts from what I've seen. He never comes back.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited September 2015
    pinkys008 wrote: »
    Also carbs:
    ihops-butterscotch-rocks-pancake.jpg?w=515
    the-pros-and-cons-of-a-high-carbohydrate-diet_1.jpg
    pasta.gif
    synthetic-diet.jpg

    Lots of fat in most of those "carbs." Calling them simply "carbs" seems a little misleading.

    Which is always the problem with these discussions.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited September 2015
    pinkys008 wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    you can not eat that stuff and make better nutritional decisions as to what your carbs consist of...that doesn't mean you have to low carb...

    man...y'all are like some kind of cult or something....

    the foundation of my diet is basically what jgnatca posted...but apparently this is a detriment to my health according to the cult following here...

    I'm not in the low carb cult, I'm in the less added sugar, less refined flour cult. People who are asking about cutting carbs aren't usually people with an excess of legumes in their diet. Just saying. A whole lot of the "junk" food can be easily identified by the surplus of sugar & white flour in the processing.

    Focusing on "carbs" and not "eating a healthy diet" is usually a misplaced focus, IMO, and confuses people. It's why we get people thinking they need to cut out all carbs (including vegetables) and eat coconut oil in coffee for breakfast to lose weight or who describe themselves as "scared" to eat fruit.

    Obviously, doing a low carb eating plan can be a legitimate strategy for weight loss, but you seemed to be talking about people other than those who have explored it and decided that for them low carb would have particular benefits.
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    If the people giving you advice call it a carb and look at you with a blank stare when you refer to it as a carbohydrate then run far from that advice.

    Carbohydrates as others have said are 1 of 3 macronutrients. Humans need all 3 to provide the energy we need to function.
  • dubird
    dubird Posts: 1,849 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    pinkys008 wrote: »
    Also carbs:
    ihops-butterscotch-rocks-pancake.jpg?w=515
    the-pros-and-cons-of-a-high-carbohydrate-diet_1.jpg
    pasta.gif
    synthetic-diet.jpg

    Lots of fat in most of those "carbs." Calling them simply "carbs" seems a little misleading.

    Which is always the problem with these discussions.


    We really really need a [sarcasm] tag for this forum. Seriously. The pictures have smartass written on them. It's like the people that put down CICO, claiming that 'oh so you're saying you could live off Twinkies and coke and still lose weight!'. Technically, you could, but NO ONE would suggest that because you would end up completely malnourished. It's like a majority of people here don't understand hyperbole. (not everyone, of course, but a surprising number)
  • lindsey1979
    lindsey1979 Posts: 2,395 Member
    I think it really depends on the person. Some do better with more carbs, some do better with less. They're not inherently good or bad, but just good or bad depending on your individual circumstances, goals and consumption amounts.

    For example, there was a study done a couple years ago with obese women who were insulin resistant and those who were insulin sensitive. The insulin sensitive women lost nearly twice as much weight with more carbs. It was the exact opposite for the insulin resistant women. They lost nearly twice as much with less carbs. The protein and caloric deficits were the same across all groups -- so same amount of calories proportionally, but how they created their respective deficits yielded dramatically different results.

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1038/oby.2005.79/full

    Almost half of the US adult population has insulin resistance (at prediabetic or diabetic levels) and the vast majority of them don't know it. That's why it can feel like a magic bullet or a small miracle for people who didn't realize they were insulin resistant and reduce carbs and see dramatically improved results.
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