Why am I failing

Abram86
Abram86 Posts: 282 Member
edited November 2024 in Health and Weight Loss
So I started my journey 2 and half years ago and within 8 months I had gone from 260 or so to 199. Fast forward to today and I'm now back to 242. I am trying to stop the upward climb in my weight but no matter what I do I'm still not losing. Where am I going wrong and why is it so hard this time around? I really don't eat too much food and I do strength training at least 3 times a week. I average about 2000 calories a day give or take. I can't figure out if I need to cut back on fat, carbs etc. Help
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  • DemoraFairy
    DemoraFairy Posts: 1,806 Member
    I'm not seeing much logging in your diary, and what is there isn't especially accurate. If you're estimating, that may have worked before, but clearly isn't working now.

    Get a food scale and weigh everything you can. Log it so you know exactly how much you've eaten. Stick to your calories and you'll lose weight.
  • your food diary is pretty sparse, start logging, measuring and ensure you are consuming LESS calories than you burn
    No logging = no clear reason why you are not losing
  • dhimaan
    dhimaan Posts: 774 Member
    Your diary is empty/incomplete which shows a lack of discipline. If you are gaining weight at 2k then the obvious answer to lower your calories or exercise more. Since your logging is nonexistent I doubt you are eating 2k calories. Go back to the drawing boards, come up with a plan and stick to it.
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    Where do you log?
  • ShellyBell999
    ShellyBell999 Posts: 1,482 Member
    ^^^All this

  • SueInAz
    SueInAz Posts: 6,592 Member
    edited September 2015
    If you aren't tracking your food, how do you know you're consuming 2000 calories per day? It's really easy to look back over the last week in your mind and feel like you were within your calories but it's impossible to know unless you're tracking everything accurately.

    You don't need to cut out a macro or food group. you simply need to get back to the habits that helped you lose weight the first time around. That should include tracking everything and weighing as much of your food as possible so that you can be accurate.
  • 999tigger
    999tigger Posts: 5,235 Member
    Just accpet without arguing that if you are gaining its because you are in surplus. As pointed out you have no effecive means of measuring, so you really dont know how much you are eating with any accuracy.
  • taco_inspector
    taco_inspector Posts: 7,223 Member
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  • qubetha
    qubetha Posts: 83 Member
    edited September 2015
    If you lost a lot of weight and then gained it back again, the method you used was unsustainable. You can't keep the weight off unless the changes you make are permanent. If you can't make them permanent you need examine why and try to find different ways of eating that are sustainable for you. If you try to lose the weight again don't be tempted to do it the same way you did the first time. Accept that the method doesn't work and try something else.

    I started off losing weight eating nothing but junk food but still maintaining a calorie deficit. It worked great but It required a massive amount of personal restraint and I couldn't keep it up. I lost 50lb but within 2 years it came back plus more (leaving me at 235lb).

    Second time around I worked on making small changes that I could happily live with forever. It's possible to find healthy foods that you love, you just have keep searching. I lost 65lb the second time and have kept it off 5 years. Im still eating the exact same food I did while losing weight. I've never stopped trying new foods and I am still always looking for changes I can make to my diet that taste awesome and are marginally better than what I am doing already. Every change no matter how small, make a difference.

    If your diet doesn't taste good enough to keep you coming back for years to come, keep changing it until it does. Never stop! Pick yourself up, start again and continue the research :-)
  • lyndahh75
    lyndahh75 Posts: 124 Member
    I have read up on every diet known. I've tried them all. Cabbage soup, low fat, weight watchers, nutrisystem, atkins, paleo, slim fast.....seriously a list that never ends. I lost 100 plus pounds eating low fat. That was when I was in my 20's. Weight comes off easier when we are younger. I also had a gallbladder issue that forced me on a very low fat diet. I walked two miles a day and ate no more than 20 grams of fat a day. Today, my Dr. wants me on low fat- not low carb. My husband eats low carb. I am not a huge meat fan. I will ingest chicken and fish but I prefer plants and sadly, sugar. Sugar is my downfall. My other downfall is my self abuse- beating myself up for being what I believe to be, a failure. Depression....gets the worst of us. Anyway, the point of my response is this- it does not matter what diet or way of eating you select. If we eat more calories than our body uses, we gain weight. What value of calorie matters- what sort of calories are you eating? Are they nutritious? Eating wholesome foods and getting exercise is supposed to work.
    Log your food, how else can you really know what you are ingesting? Then after a certain amount of time, look at your diary and your weight stats and perhaps then you will see where your issue is, if you still have an issue.
  • XavierNusum
    XavierNusum Posts: 720 Member
    qubetha wrote: »
    If you lost a lot of weight and then gained it back again, the method you used was unsustainable. You can't keep the weight off unless the changes you make are permanent. If you can't make them permanent you need examine why and try to find different ways of eating that are sustainable for you. If you try to lose the weight again don't be tempted to do it the same way you did the first time. Accept that the method doesn't work and try something else.

    I started off losing weight eating nothing but junk food but still maintaining a calorie deficit. It worked great but It required a massive amount of personal restraint and I couldn't keep it up. I lost 50lb but within 2 years it came back plus more (leaving me at 235lb).

    Second time around I worked on making small changes that I could happily live with forever. It's possible to find healthy foods that you love, you just have keep searching. I lost 65lb the second time and have kept it off 5 years. Im still eating the exact same food I did while losing weight. I've never stopped trying new foods and I am still always looking for changes I can make to my diet that taste awesome and are marginally better than what I am doing already. Every change no matter how small, make a difference.

    If your diet doesn't taste good enough to keep you coming back for years to come, keep changing it until it does. Never stop! Pick yourself up, start again and continue the research :-)

    Right here!!! This is one of the best comments I've ever read on this forum!

    Forget everything else until you can come to terms with this. Most folks "yo-yo" diet because they go too extreme with the newest fad diet, calorie deficit or cardio program and it's just not sustainable for a happy life. You worrry about family functions, holiday parties or the occassional dinner out. Or just flat out binge at the first good stresser of life. Or best case you make your goal weight then try to eat "normally" and gain the weight back anyway. The worst part is if you don't emphasize strength training to preserve lean muscle you burn that with the fat, then whe you regain the weight, the majority of it is fat so know you have a higher body fat % and it's now harder the next time you commit to losing.

    You have to find a regimine of healthy eating and exercise that preserves sanity and lean muscle.
  • ultrahoon
    ultrahoon Posts: 467 Member
    If you're gaining weight, you're eating more calories than you burn. Start logging accurately and diligently again, and the culprit will be there in black and white for you to see.
  • PinkPixiexox
    PinkPixiexox Posts: 4,142 Member
    Log all of your food and make sure you are eating at a correct deficit. Your weight gain suggests you are eating more than you should - are you weighing your food? :]
  • Abram86
    Abram86 Posts: 282 Member
    Thanks to everyone who responded. When I first began I cut out sugar and flour. I was drinking tea without sugar, gave up the stupid sodas. I was eating chicken breast, fish and pork chops and hamburgers cooked on the George foreman. If I did use oil to cook it was coconut. I rotated the above daily and I'd eat out once a week. I used to walk on the treadmill for 1 mile a day or until i burned between 100 t0 150 calories.
    Now i drink 1 or 2 sodas a day especially when i feel stressed with my job. I don't get on the treadmill or elliptical like i used to because when i think about it after strength training i tell myself tommorow but it never happens. Idk why i hate the treadmill now. As for the elliptical i was told that was a feminine machine. As for logging I try to do that but some days I forget lol
  • ashliedelgado
    ashliedelgado Posts: 814 Member
    Tighten up your logging. Make it religious. I usually plan what I am going to eat the whole day the night before, and pre log. It lets me know where I am at through out the day if temptation sneaks in, I know what I can wiggle in. Soda's aren't a problem if you fit them in your deficit.

    The elliptical is a feminine machine? What? WHO CARES! Exercise is for fitness, health, and fun. Do cardio you enjoy doing. That's the only way you will stick to it. If you hate the treadmill, go on walks outside. I got a couple high energy dogs. It doesn't matter what day I had, how I'm feeling, if they don't get walked, I don't sleep. If I don't want to take them on a leisurely 4 mile walk to tucker them out, we better run half that or I don't sleep. Find something that motivates you to move and do it!
  • callsitlikeiseeit
    callsitlikeiseeit Posts: 8,626 Member
    Abram86 wrote: »
    As for logging I try to do that but some days I forget lol

    thats the problem.

    if its important enough to you, you will not forget.
  • ManiacalLaugh
    ManiacalLaugh Posts: 1,048 Member
    Abram86 wrote: »
    Thanks to everyone who responded. When I first began I cut out sugar and flour. I was drinking tea without sugar, gave up the stupid sodas. I was eating chicken breast, fish and pork chops and hamburgers cooked on the George foreman. If I did use oil to cook it was coconut. I rotated the above daily and I'd eat out once a week. I used to walk on the treadmill for 1 mile a day or until i burned between 100 t0 150 calories.
    Now i drink 1 or 2 sodas a day especially when i feel stressed with my job. I don't get on the treadmill or elliptical like i used to because when i think about it after strength training i tell myself tommorow but it never happens. Idk why i hate the treadmill now. As for the elliptical i was told that was a feminine machine. As for logging I try to do that but some days I forget lol

    Lol! (not at you, at the person who told you this) I do see a lot of women on the elliptical, but I have seen guys on it too - trucking like beasts. My bf uses it too.

    I wasn't aware they were girly machines. X)
  • lindsey1979
    lindsey1979 Posts: 2,395 Member
    Abram86 wrote: »
    Thanks to everyone who responded. When I first began I cut out sugar and flour. I was drinking tea without sugar, gave up the stupid sodas. I was eating chicken breast, fish and pork chops and hamburgers cooked on the George foreman. If I did use oil to cook it was coconut. I rotated the above daily and I'd eat out once a week. I used to walk on the treadmill for 1 mile a day or until i burned between 100 t0 150 calories.
    Now i drink 1 or 2 sodas a day especially when i feel stressed with my job. I don't get on the treadmill or elliptical like i used to because when i think about it after strength training i tell myself tommorow but it never happens. Idk why i hate the treadmill now. As for the elliptical i was told that was a feminine machine. As for logging I try to do that but some days I forget lol

    It sounds like you probably do know what is causing the weight gain. At the very least, you're likely taking in a couple more hundred cals from the sodas alone and likely burning a few hundred less that you were before. Since you're not logging, you're probably eating a LOT more than you realize. Stress can really push those buttons.

    So, before doing anything, as others have suggested, get a really good idea of what you actually are eating -- gotta log consistently and accurately for a while. I imagine once you start doing that, the answers will be readily apparent. If it's still not working, then come back and we can explore other options (shifting macros, other WOEs, potential medical conditions, etc.)

  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,055 Member
    Abram86 wrote: »
    Thanks to everyone who responded. When I first began I cut out sugar and flour. I was drinking tea without sugar, gave up the stupid sodas. I was eating chicken breast, fish and pork chops and hamburgers cooked on the George foreman. If I did use oil to cook it was coconut. I rotated the above daily and I'd eat out once a week. I used to walk on the treadmill for 1 mile a day or until i burned between 100 t0 150 calories.
    Now i drink 1 or 2 sodas a day especially when i feel stressed with my job. I don't get on the treadmill or elliptical like i used to because when i think about it after strength training i tell myself tommorow but it never happens. Idk why i hate the treadmill now. As for the elliptical i was told that was a feminine machine. As for logging I try to do that but some days I forget lol

    You could do cardio first or for a few minutes in between sets.

  • callsitlikeiseeit
    callsitlikeiseeit Posts: 8,626 Member
    i see men on the elliptical all the time.

    stop making excuses.
  • BurnWithBarn2015
    BurnWithBarn2015 Posts: 1,026 Member
    edited September 2015
    The reason why people gain their weight back is too much calories, so eating Surplus.

    the cause can be different from person to person.

    But most of the time it is that the period that they lose weight they eat "skinny" products or go different than how they will sub-stain their weight in the future when they reached their goal weight.
    In other words they go crash dieting...go vegetarian, low sugar, low carb, pills, shakes whatever. But this is not the way they will eat for the rest of their lives. So when you want to eat low carb or be a vegetarian oke. When not than dont start it to lose weight.
    When reaching their goal weight at a certain point, they go back to eating what they really like or want to eat.
    Result most of the time ( not always) weight gain.

    Now to avoid this...
    Eat how you want to eat your whole life. But to lose the excess weight eat less calories than you burn.
    How?.....Create a deficit. Know by weighing all your food on a scale your calorie intake and log honestly.

    Now exercise, so moving will help also. But weight loss starts in the kitchen

    When you reach your gaol weight this way you only have to up the calories you take in. To maintainence level.
    No change in foods at all. Just more and some more snacks etc. So you dont lose weight anymore. But also not to gain afterwards


    hope that helps OP

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  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    So you added back the things you cut out and you became less active. More calories, less movement=weight gain.

    Why don't you try portion control and calorie counting? Make the change.
  • SueInAz
    SueInAz Posts: 6,592 Member
    edited September 2015
    Abram86 wrote: »
    Thanks to everyone who responded. When I first began I cut out sugar and flour. I was drinking tea without sugar, gave up the stupid sodas. I was eating chicken breast, fish and pork chops and hamburgers cooked on the George foreman. If I did use oil to cook it was coconut. I rotated the above daily and I'd eat out once a week. I used to walk on the treadmill for 1 mile a day or until i burned between 100 t0 150 calories.
    Now i drink 1 or 2 sodas a day especially when i feel stressed with my job. I don't get on the treadmill or elliptical like i used to because when i think about it after strength training i tell myself tommorow but it never happens. Idk why i hate the treadmill now. As for the elliptical i was told that was a feminine machine. As for logging I try to do that but some days I forget lol

    So you're consuming more calories and exercising less. That definitely equals weight gain.

    If you don't like the treadmill or the elliptical then don't do them. There's no need to if you don't want to but I've seen some pretty beefy men using the elliptical machines at my gym. I'm a big proponent of doing the things you like because you'll want to do them and not put them off to a tomorrow that never comes. If you don't do cardio, though, you have to consume less calories but 100-150 isn't really that much to worry about anyway.

    I usually lift with a partner but on the occasions that I've lifted alone after I've finished a set I'll do a lap around the inside of the gym. It both gets me some extra steps (over a mile) and kills the time that I'd be sitting there just twiddling my thumbs.
  • Abram86
    Abram86 Posts: 282 Member
    Can some of yall take a look at my diary and let me know how I did. Also how does one go about tracking coconut oil if it's used to fry a fish? How much actually stays on the fish?
  • BurnWithBarn2015
    BurnWithBarn2015 Posts: 1,026 Member
    To me the logging that you do is not accurate
    cup of this cup of that etc etc
    Weighing your food is important specially oats

    Here a short video about hundreds of difference in weighing or measuring oats.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY

    and for the frying. Well when i use oil unfortunately i do the whole spoon So i log the spoon full and dont subtract what is left in the pan.
    Which you can btw

    But i use a spray much more accurate for me. I put my pan (cold) on the scale. Zero the scale out. spray the pan and put it back on the scale...now it will give you some grams ( or a lot lol depends on how much you use)
    And there you have your amount you use for frying. Now when i take the fish you i am not going to weigh again. It is logged and that is it.
    Because i dont use much of it, i really dont going to subtract what is left over in the pan.

    Looking at your dairy, you better tighten up some other things like weighing everything else instead of worrying about the left over oil in the pan.

  • Abram86
    Abram86 Posts: 282 Member
    Ok thanks
  • BurnWithBarn2015
    BurnWithBarn2015 Posts: 1,026 Member
    Abram86 wrote: »
    Ok thanks

    yvw good luck!

  • VykkDraygoVPR
    VykkDraygoVPR Posts: 465 Member
    I don't like ellipticals because the stance hurts my knees. But I have a weird stance, being flatfooted. If you don't like the treadmill either, have you tried stationary bikes? I quite like them. I like to push myself to go "further" each time, higher average rpms over the same time frame. Or see how fast I can sprint, and how long I can maintain it. Giving myself a goal is necessary, since the gym itself is kinda boring to look at. ;)
  • Abram86
    Abram86 Posts: 282 Member
    I am going to try to do cardiovascular at least 2 to 3 times a week
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