Why are macros important?

becknomad
becknomad Posts: 63 Member
edited November 24 in Fitness and Exercise
If calories are calories, why should I be mindful of macros? I get that protein keeps you feeling full for longer but other than that why should I care about macro ratios? Thanks, I'm new here - 3 weeks in and 9 lbs down!
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  • dani_967
    dani_967 Posts: 11 Member
    edited September 2015
    because it matters from what sources u get your calories from carbs or from fat.
    if u reach 2000 cal and 70% of the calories come from fats - nuts butters sweets bisquits u will increase your bf %
    but if u reach your 70% of 2000 cal by eating carbs it will be great for your body and health too
  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    dani_967 wrote: »
    because it matters from what sources u get your calories from carbs or from fat.
    if u reach 2000 cal and 70% of the calories come from fats - nuts butters sweets bisquits u will increase your bf %
    but if u reach your 70% of 2000 cal by eating carbs it will be great for your body and health too

    This LITERALLY couldn't be more wrong
  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    becknomad wrote: »
    If calories are calories, why should I be mindful of macros? I get that protein keeps you feeling full for longer but other than that why should I care about macro ratios? Thanks, I'm new here - 3 weeks in and 9 lbs down!

    It's important to consume adequate protein for muscle synthesis and to help grow muscle/prevent muscle loss. Dietary fat is important for hormone production, absorption of fat soluble vitamins and minerals, brain and organ function, as well as skin and hair health. Carbohydrates are the body's preferred source easily accessible energy. That is why macronutrients are important.
  • caci88
    caci88 Posts: 53 Member
    Your body needs particular amounts of each macro for daily functioning. More and it will store fat, and less and it will not work effectively or efficiently. In order to maintain or create muscle mass especially you need to be precise. However, fats and carbs are somewhat interchangeable & I find some do better on higher fat and some on lower fat.. It also depends on your body type etc. etc. IIFYM Calculator can sort it all out for u.. it's much better than just calorie counting :)
  • JoshD8705
    JoshD8705 Posts: 390 Member
    Protein helps build muscle, carbs deliver the protein to the muscle, and goods fats help keep the muscle from breaking down.

    Fats have more calories per gram, so cutting fat first helps maintain the calorie deficit of a diet.

    I like atleast 50grams of fat that's 450 calories

    I want between 200 and 250grams of protein that's 800-1000 calories

    Then I want between 100, and 150grams of carbs. That's 400-600 calories.

    2050 on my high days (lifting) 1650 on my lowest (lazy do nothing days) and somewhere between on regular active days.

    Focusing on macros helps you lose as little muscle as possible while losing the fat. Plus in your first 6 months of a solid lifting, and macro diet program you can GAIN muscle while burning off fat. It's a great way to get started. You'd be ahead of the game.
  • KittensMaster
    KittensMaster Posts: 748 Member
    Read up on the topic of balanced diet and portion sizing.

    This site has those that constantly argue back and forth on nutrition strategy so it can become a bit less useful than you would think.

    I will say that extreme diets that totally eliminate any macro group are quite challenging and not, not very well balanced for a long term eating solution

    If you lift and break down muscle you need protein to rebuild. You need fats. Carbs are nice to have as high octane fuel at times. I eat a Snickers before a long bike ride. You can learn to fuel your body for activity as required.

    Read a few articles on nutrition, not marketing stuff from people trying to sell a diet.

    If you want to really dig in and understand how you burn off calories, be that fat or carbs, Google mitochondria endurance training

    It is the fuel burning (an adaptive organelle) furnace in your muscles that is the switch to burn fat or carbs in the required mix.

    Good luck on your fitness journey. It is fun and you can educate yourself an take control of it!



  • JoshD8705
    JoshD8705 Posts: 390 Member
    I've stopped counting here's what I eat typicall now though.

    Breakfast
    2 large eggs, with half cup of egg white, serving of oatmeal with a choice of frozen berries mixed in.

    Snack
    Cup of milk with 2 scoops whey protein

    Lunch
    Sandwich with 4oz of chicken, turkey, roast beef, or ham. Cheese, mayo, and choice of veggies. Greek yogurt, and almonds.

    Dinner
    Either 10oz chicken breast, 8oz round steak, or 8oz porkchop.
    Either serving of rice, or large baked potato.
    Either 1 cup brocoli, green beans, or mixed veggies.

    My at home cheat meal is chicken fettuccine Alfredo I replace one of the dinners.

    You get 1 cheat meal where you ignore macros entirely every week.
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    It's exactly what a previous poster stated--a ballanced meal. We've gotten off track with that, but bodies function the best with it. I live in Italy and the mediterranean diet is the norm. I have no problem hitting my macros. Now, you have people with illnesses, alergies, or doing heavy lifting that have to change their macros up to achieve their goals. B)
  • seska422
    seska422 Posts: 3,217 Member
    edited September 2015
    Calories are king for weight loss but macros and micros need to be eaten in adequate amounts in order to properly nourish the body.

    The thing is, those are wide ranges. There's plenty of wiggle room.

    Protein: 15-25% of calories
    Fat: 20-35% (that upper limit has recently been eliminated, at least in the US)
    Carbs: 45-65% (going lower than 45% isn't a problem if that works for you)

    Basically, at least 15% of calories from protein, at least 20% from fat.

    The default MFP macros (50C/30F/20P) are working nicely for me. Previously, I wasn't eating nearly enough protein and I was lower on fat when I was trying to watch what I ate. With these macros I don't feel nearly as hungry as I did when I lost weight in the past.
  • JoshD8705
    JoshD8705 Posts: 390 Member
    edited September 2015
    Why would protein be your lowest number?
  • hamlet1222
    hamlet1222 Posts: 459 Member
    for someone who is not training the recommendation is 0.75g of protein per kilo of body weight, for someone who is training, it should be 1.2 - 2.0g per kg. That's quite a lot of protein, hard to get without having fish or meat in at least two meals, or whey protein supplements.

    As for fat and carbs, I'd stick with getting most of your calories from carbs, some people prefer ketogenic diets with mostly fat, but many people feel awful on this diet, and the 'menu' is certainly more expensive than a high-carb low-fat menu.
  • rybo
    rybo Posts: 5,424 Member
    They aren't as important as people make then out to be.
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    seska422 wrote: »
    Calories are king for weight loss but macros and micros need to be eaten in adequate amounts in order to properly nourish the body.

    The thing is, those are wide ranges. There's plenty of wiggle room.

    Protein: 15-25% of calories
    Fat: 20-35% (that upper limit has recently been eliminated, at least in the US)
    Carbs: 45-65% (going lower than 45% isn't a problem if that works for you)

    Basically, at least 15% of calories from protein, at least 20% from fat.

    The default MFP macros (50C/30F/20P) are working nicely for me. Previously, I wasn't eating nearly enough protein and I was lower on fat when I was trying to watch what I ate. With these macros I don't feel nearly as hungry as I did when I lost weight in the past.

    Exactly. The body needs all three in order to function properly, but the exact ratio of each is very individual. I have dieted with a low fat regimen and my skin and hair suffered horribly (lost about half of my hair, about half of what I lost grew back). I like my carbs (especially grains, fruit, and veggies), but I am T2Dm so I have to limit them for best health.

    My personal sweet spot as far as macros is 35% carb, 35% protein, and 30% fat.

  • DvlDwnInGA
    DvlDwnInGA Posts: 368 Member
    It really depends on goals. To lose weight, you are correct it is mostly CICO. One thing that I noticed when I was not watching macros is that low calorie foods typically are very low in fats. Your body needs fats. I was low on them until I started watching my macros and made adjustments. Fats having 9 calories per gram, makes it hard to get a good amount of fats and stay low cal.

    For people who are lifting weights, losing weight, and are trying to hold onto muscle while they drop fat, high protein diets are beneficial, as well as protein being great for satiation.

    I personally don't like to use percentages when dealing with macros, I know MFP makes you use percentages, but I like to run my macros with real numbers. 1 gram per body weight on protein, .4 grams per body weight on fats, the rest get filled with carbs.

    Some say to use lean body mass to use to figure your proteins and fats, and others would say to use your target weight. Example, a 250 pound man wanting to weigh 200 pounds, should aim for 200 grams of protein a day and 80 grams of fat with a total of 1520 calories for the day, and fill the remaining calories with carbs. If you are on a 2500 calorie a day diet, that would leave you right at 245 grams of carbs a day.


  • mperrott2205
    mperrott2205 Posts: 737 Member
    edited September 2015
    dani_967 wrote: »
    because it matters from what sources u get your calories from carbs or from fat.
    if u reach 2000 cal and 70% of the calories come from fats - nuts butters sweets bisquits u will increase your bf %
    but if u reach your 70% of 2000 cal by eating carbs it will be great for your body and health too

    Holy!

    [Post Edited by MFP Staff]
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    DvlDwnInGA wrote: »
    It really depends on goals. To lose weight, you are correct it is mostly CICO. One thing that I noticed when I was not watching macros is that low calorie foods typically are very low in fats. Your body needs fats. I was low on them until I started watching my macros and made adjustments. Fats having 9 calories per gram, makes it hard to get a good amount of fats and stay low cal.

    For people who are lifting weights, losing weight, and are trying to hold onto muscle while they drop fat, high protein diets are beneficial, as well as protein being great for satiation.

    I personally don't like to use percentages when dealing with macros, I know MFP makes you use percentages, but I like to run my macros with real numbers. 1 gram per body weight on protein, .4 grams per body weight on fats, the rest get filled with carbs.

    Some say to use lean body mass to use to figure your proteins and fats, and others would say to use your target weight. Example, a 250 pound man wanting to weigh 200 pounds, should aim for 200 grams of protein a day and 80 grams of fat with a total of 1520 calories for the day, and fill the remaining calories with carbs. If you are on a 2500 calorie a day diet, that would leave you right at 245 grams of carbs a day.


    Like you said, everyone's goals are different and everyone's bodies are different. For the general public, percentages are a good way to start, then you can tweak as you learn more about you and what your body needs. I use percentages as a way of daily logging, but I arrived at my percentages by calculating total grams. As a T2Dm, I have a maximum of 180 g of carb (set by my PCP who is also a certified diabetic educator) and that was 35% of my starting calorie allowance. The protein was also decided by grams and the fat filled in the rest. Most do protein and fat and fill in with carbs but my medical condition required that I do it differently. It just made sense to keep to the same proportions as my weight went down since they seemed to be the perfect mix for me. If I do recomp after reaching goal, I may rethink this and will, again, use grams to calculate.

  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    rybo wrote: »
    They aren't as important as people make then out to be.

    That completely depends on whether you want to optimize your body composition and health, or not. If you're fine with doing well, but not doing the best you possibly can, then yea, I guess macros wouldn't be that important for you, but you can't argue that you can get the best possible results without directly or at least indirectly tracking macronutrient intake.
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    AJ_G wrote: »
    rybo wrote: »
    They aren't as important as people make then out to be.

    That completely depends on whether you want to optimize your body composition and health, or not. If you're fine with doing well, but not doing the best you possibly can, then yea, I guess macros wouldn't be that important for you, but you can't argue that you can get the best possible results without directly or at least indirectly tracking macronutrient intake.

    I agree completely--well said. B)
  • sixxpoint
    sixxpoint Posts: 3,529 Member
    Protein is the bricks. Carbs are the brick layers. Fat is the cement. Micronutrients (vitamins, minerals, etc) are the weatherproofing.

    • Protein: 0.60-0.80 grams per pound of bodyweight -- the highest amount justified by research for active individuals.
    • Dietary Fat: 0.40-0.45 grams per pound of bodyweight -- the lowest amount implied by clinical observation (unless obese).
    • Remaining caloric budget: whatever mix of macronutrients you prefer, notably a rich variety of nutritious fruits, veggies, high fiber foods, and healthy fats.



    As stated, adequate macronutrient balance also plays a role in body composition.
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    rybo wrote: »
    They aren't as important as people make then out to be.

    Agreed, though I think it depends on individual goals/expectations. I think.
  • sixxpoint
    sixxpoint Posts: 3,529 Member
    jacksonpt wrote: »
    rybo wrote: »
    They aren't as important as people make then out to be.

    Agreed, though I think it depends on individual goals/expectations. I think.

    Well, hitting 100+ grams of protein is more important if you lift. A sedentary person does not need that much. However, the minimum for dietary fat still stands for most people (unless obese). Dietary fat is crucial for a variety of body functions, notably hormone and brain health.
  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    Protein: 0.60-0.80 grams per pound of bodyweight -- the highest amount justified by research for active individuals.

    Not necessarily the case, the scientifically found number is 0.82g per lb of body weight, exceeding that has no benefit for muscle synthesis, but also no negative effects either: http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-intake-for-bodybuilders/


    Dietary Fat: 0.40-0.45 grams per pound of bodyweight -- the lowest amount implied by clinical observation (unless obese).

    Do you happen to have a link to a study for this?
  • sixxpoint
    sixxpoint Posts: 3,529 Member
    edited September 2015
    AJ_G wrote: »
    Protein: 0.60-0.80 grams per pound of bodyweight -- the highest amount justified by research for active individuals.

    Not necessarily the case, the scientifically found number is 0.82g per lb of body weight, exceeding that has no benefit for muscle synthesis, but also no negative effects either: http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-intake-for-bodybuilders/


    Dietary Fat: 0.40-0.45 grams per pound of bodyweight -- the lowest amount implied by clinical observation (unless obese).

    Do you happen to have a link to a study for this?

    For protein, that is why I gave a range.

    0.80-0.82 g/lb. is the highest amount justified by research. I used a round figure. I doubt someone is going to lose muscle mass based on 3-4 grams of protein. A range of 0.60-0.80 g/lb. is sufficient.


    Hope you're ready... here are the studies:

    http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa0804748

    Dietary protein for athletes: From requirements to optimum adaptation. Phillips SM, Van Loon LJ. J Sports Sci. 2011;29 Suppl 1:S29-38.

    Tarnopolsky et al. (1992) observed no differences in whole body protein synthesis or indexes of lean body mass in strength athletes consuming either 0.64g/lb or 1.10g/lb over a 2 week period. Protein oxidation did increase in the high protein group, indicating a nutrient overload.

    Walberg et al. (1988) found that 0.73g/lb was sufficient to maintain positive nitrogen balance in cutting weightlifters over a 7 day time period.

    Tarnopolsky et al. (1988) found that only 0.37g/lb was required to maintain positive nitrogen balance in elite bodybuilders (over 5 years of experience, possible previous use of androgens) over a 10 day period. 0.45g/lb was sufficient to maintain lean body mass in bodybuilders over a 2 week period. The authors suggested that 0.55g/lb was sufficient for bodybuilders.

    Lemon et al. (1992) found no differences in muscle mass or strength gains in novice bodybuilders consuming either 0.61g/lb or 1.19g/lb over a 4 week period. Based on nitrogen balance data, the authors recommended 0.75g/lb.

    Hoffman et al. (2006) found no differences in body composition, strength or resting hormonal concentrations in strength athletes consuming either 0.77g/lb or >0.91g/lb over a 3 month period.

    Effect of protein intake on strength, body composition and endocrine changes in strength/power athletes. Hoffman JR, Ratamess NA, Kang J, Falvo MJ, Faigenbaum AD. J Int Soc Sports Nutr. 2006 Dec 13;3:12-8.

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  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    dani_967 wrote: »
    because it matters from what sources u get your calories from carbs or from fat.
    if u reach 2000 cal and 70% of the calories come from fats - nuts butters sweets bisquits u will increase your bf %
    but if u reach your 70% of 2000 cal by eating carbs it will be great for your body and health too

    um, what? Not sure you even know what a carb is.
  • becknomad
    becknomad Posts: 63 Member
    Wow thanks for all these replies. I want to lose weight.SW: 213 CW: 204 GW: 147. I'm 36 and 5'5. I don't like weight lifting. I get bored... I would like to start rock climbing - would this be equivalent to a weight training program? I always hear that you use every muscle in your body when you climb. My MFP calories are 1500/day. I do cardio 4 times a week for 30-60 min. Typically my macros are 40% fat, 30% carbs and 30% protein. I like nuts.... Does this all sound fine or am I having too much fat? Does it even matter as long as I'm under my calorie goal??? I'm confused on the comments on how to "optimize" results by changing macro ratios... Thanks again for the help!!
  • seska422
    seska422 Posts: 3,217 Member
    edited September 2015
    becknomad wrote: »
    Wow thanks for all these replies. I want to lose weight.SW: 213 CW: 204 GW: 147. I'm 36 and 5'5. I don't like weight lifting. I get bored... I would like to start rock climbing - would this be equivalent to a weight training program? I always hear that you use every muscle in your body when you climb. My MFP calories are 1500/day. I do cardio 4 times a week for 30-60 min. Typically my macros are 40% fat, 30% carbs and 30% protein. I like nuts.... Does this all sound fine or am I having too much fat? Does it even matter as long as I'm under my calorie goal??? I'm confused on the comments on how to "optimize" results by changing macro ratios... Thanks again for the help!!
    The important part about exercise is that you like it so that you will keep doing it. I love hiking and rock climbing (to the extent that I can) and that sounds like a great way to get out and burn some calories in the fresh air. I don't think it's a direct equivalent to weightlifting but weightlifting isn't a requirement.

    As for your percentages, that amount of fat is fine. Those macros are fine. The important parts are that they meet the minimums and satisfy you.

    IMO, the only people who need to micromanage their macros to optimize results (for example, optimize muscle development) are competitive weightlifters, professional models, people like that. Most people just need to find what ratios work for them within (or close to) the recommended ranges and use those chosen numbers as a goal to aim toward during the day rather than a requirement to meet that percentage exactly.

    For weight loss, macro percentages aren't nearly important as overall calories.
  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    becknomad wrote: »
    Wow thanks for all these replies. I want to lose weight.SW: 213 CW: 204 GW: 147. I'm 36 and 5'5. I don't like weight lifting. I get bored... I would like to start rock climbing - would this be equivalent to a weight training program? I always hear that you use every muscle in your body when you climb. My MFP calories are 1500/day. I do cardio 4 times a week for 30-60 min. Typically my macros are 40% fat, 30% carbs and 30% protein. I like nuts.... Does this all sound fine or am I having too much fat? Does it even matter as long as I'm under my calorie goal??? I'm confused on the comments on how to "optimize" results by changing macro ratios... Thanks again for the help!!

    Rock climbing is a good physical activity, but it won't exactly replace weight lifting. You will see yourself getting stronger through climbing, but it will be climbing oriented strength. They say you're working every muscle, but you won't be working every muscle to the fullest extent you can.

    As far as macros, calculate them based on gram amounts, not based on a percentage or ratio of your total calorie intake. Ideal protein intake is 1g per lb of Lean Body Mass. This protein intake will optimize muscle synthesis. Dietary fat should be set at 0.35 to 0.4 grams per lb of total body weight. The rest of your calories can go to carbohydrates.
  • j6o4
    j6o4 Posts: 871 Member
    A calorie is a unit of energy. Proteins, fats, and carbs are all sources of energy but have different functions in the body. Protein repairs muscle, fats help absorb micros and keep hormones healthy, and carbs are our preferred source on energy. If you eat more protein than your body can use to repair muscle, your body will convert the extra protein into carbs; this is also true for fats. Calories are the big picture, put keeping an eye on macros does help. In case if you were not aware, 1 gram of protein = 4 calories, 1 gram of carbs = 4 calories, and 1 gram of fat = 9 calories. IMO I would choose a macro ratio that makes you feel the best and makes your diet enjoyable, optimizing results is not necessary unless you were planning to get really lean.
  • becknomad
    becknomad Posts: 63 Member
    This makes great sense thank you!!!
  • Ironmaiden4life
    Ironmaiden4life Posts: 422 Member
    Aside from the body's need for macronutrients (it's all in the name macro - the body needs them in large amounts) a point very well explained by other posters. From a cosmetic standpoint calories determine how heavy you are on the scale, macros determine how heavy you look.
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