can you put on muscle without weight training?

fruity_man
fruity_man Posts: 180 Member
I'm 33, male, 8% body fat... I've lifted before.

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  • RedWolf09
    RedWolf09 Posts: 90 Member
    Yeah with calisthenics
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    You need some form of resistance. For example you could do body-weight exercises.
  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
    Look at a gymnast
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    Look at a gymnast

    Many of them weight/resistance train (all elite would especially), is that what you were getting at.
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  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    I did
  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
    RGv2 wrote: »
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    Look at a gymnast

    Many of them weight/resistance train (all elite would especially), is that what you were getting at.

    It was many moons ago but neighbor in college was partial gymnastics scholarship guy at a big 10 school (so at least decent level) said he did no barbell work. Was very muscular.
  • Timshel_
    Timshel_ Posts: 22,834 Member
    RedWolf09 wrote: »
    Yeah with calisthenics

    x100, yup. Body weight workouts.

  • Debmal77
    Debmal77 Posts: 4,770 Member
    I did

    May I ask how you did it? Please and thank you!
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  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,442 MFP Moderator
    You will probably be hard pressed and it will probably be ineffective to gain muacle with just body resistance training. At some point, continuously over load your muscles will become difficult.

    Also, regarding push ups, muscle efficiency can address that. When i was in my prime of doing tkd, we frequently did 100 and this is while i was losing weight. Now i am around 50 to 60 without a break. With breaks or routines (push / pull) i can do several hundred.
  • slideaway1
    slideaway1 Posts: 1,006 Member
    Yeah, but you need some form of resistance. Gymnasts have the resistance of their own bodyweight and gravity. Swimmers have great bodies too and gain muscle through the resistance of the water. I would bet that both swimmers and gymnasts at top level do some form of weight training to aid their performance too. Obviously diet needs to be on point aswell.
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    edited September 2015
    RGv2 wrote: »
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    Look at a gymnast

    Many of them weight/resistance train (all elite would especially), is that what you were getting at.

    As an ex-competitive gymnast, i can confirm that we RARELY did weight training. And male gymnasts were discouraged from doing so.

    Why? Because they do not actually WANT to build new muscle. It is imperative that they be lean, and strong, while remaining a relatively small body size. It's necessary for safety and ease of doing many skills which put pressure on wrists, ankles, and other joints.

    They train for roughly 30+ hours per week and they do "calisthenics". They do not need any additional training and certainly not in the form of barbell training as it is highly impractical for the skills they are trying to acheive. Keep in mind gymnasts are not training for pure strength nor for aesthetics. They are training to be able to perform a certain skill. These skills require a combination of strength, power, balance, focus, etc.

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    To do something like this you MUST train using your own body weight because otherwise you could be imbalanced and uncontrolled. It is so incredibly easy to apply too much power and overshoot a skill, etc.

    Do male gymnasts not strength train at all? NO, of course they do!! They do gymnastics CONDITIONING. This is strength training centered around using their own body weight and strengthening the muscles in a way for a specific skill they need to master. For example, if they are working on the Parralell bars and they need better control of the core and better control of upper body strength they will do something like the following:

    Adjust the bars all the way down on one side causing a steep incline. They will be required to walk on the hands up the bars. They will be required to do dips on an incline. They will do tap swings to hollow body holds for 1-2 seconds before moving up the bar. etc. The training they do is always relevant to the specific skills they are trying to learn.

    ANYWAYS, so, can you be "ripped" and "bodybuilder"esqe as a gymnast? Not really.

    These guys LOOK great, they look ripped, and they obviously have amazing control over their bodies. HOWEVER, if you had them stand next to an average looking guy or an average sized gym gower they would look TINY. these men are SMALL. They just have well developed muscles relative to their body size and very low body fat.


    To answer OP's question. Can you "put on new muscle" with this style of training? SURE. to an extent. You will not get "big" or anywhere near the size of the average body builder. YOU CAN however, get lean, and strong, and have a body that can do amazing things that envoke envy in others. ;)
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    Oh, here's a great video i found:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvq1AHaqGto
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    edited September 2015
    Debmal77 wrote: »
    I did

    May I ask how you did it? Please and thank you!

    Farm work, and overeating.
  • Debmal77
    Debmal77 Posts: 4,770 Member
    Debmal77 wrote: »
    I did

    May I ask how you did it? Please and thank you!

    Farm work, and overeating.

    Thank you!
  • MoiAussi93
    MoiAussi93 Posts: 1,948 Member
    As other have stated body weight exercises really do work.

    Also, sprints will build significant lower body muscle.
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