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  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,055 Member
    OP - I know you've made up your mind, but there's a distinct difference between an opinion and a fact. You are not hindering your weight loss by eating a low calorie total. That's a fact.

    I think you're actually eating more than you believe. That's an opinion (unless it were to be verified by looking at your diary, in which case it would become a) a fact, or b) wrong.).


    Yes, I understand that eating a low calorie diet is necessary to losing weight.
    I know exactly what I'm eating, I weigh my food and measure portions. My original question pertained to the fact that MFP recommended a certain amount of calories and looking through my diaries I have found that I am consistently under eating at least 500 calories per day, sometimes up to 1000. However I don't believe that someone consistently eating that much less will lose more than someone eating "enough". I was hoping to hear from someone that has experienced 100 lbs+ weight loss. But at this point, I'd rather speak to a professional.
    Thanks for your input

    @DeguelloTex and @earlnabby have both lost over 100 pounds and perhaps they will chime in.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    http://ironman.memorialhermann.org/performance-improvement/resting-metabolic-rate/ is my suggestion, at this bodyweight MFP uses an equation that overestimates substantially by about 600 cals compared to the lean mass based Katch-McArdle equation.
  • MissMollyPacendova
    MissMollyPacendova Posts: 30 Member
    jemhh wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    Lots of people on here have lost 100+lbs (check out the success stories).

    The most common & successful approach is:
    1. Eating the calorie goal MFP gave them (net calories)
    2. Logging everything they consume using a digital food scale

    It's really that simple. Don't over-complicate it.

    Well everyone seems to insist that since I'm eating half of what MFP recommends I should be losing more

    Until you start using a digital food scale to weigh your food, you have no clue what you are eating. It makes a HUGE difference.




    Omg... I do weigh my food! I even make my own salad dressings!

    Your diary isn't open, so we can only take your word for it that you are logging accurately. when someone says they are eating at a low calorie intake and are not losing weight, typically the first thing that's a possibility is inaccuracy in logging/weighing. Unless there's a metabolic issue with thyroid or another health related problem that hasn't been addressed yet.

    Also, you were asked a bunch of times whether or not you weighed your food and I think your response got buried in a post.

    How long have you been counting your calories? I believe that your OP said you just started using the app. Were you using the website or another calorie counting method before? What entries are you choosing from the MFP database? Are they authoritative (i.e., USDA entries, entries matching food packaging, etc.) How many calories are you actually eating? How much weight have you lost altogether, and over what time frame? What kind of exercise are you doing and how often/long are you doing it? What is your non-exercise daily activity level like? Your age and height?

    Oh my those are a lot of questions! I just started using the app, but I have been keeping a food diary. When I got the app I plugged in days to see what I was doing. I do weigh or measure everything I put in my mouth. (When I shop I only buy from the produce and meat department. I have cut out all processed foods). I just feel like I should be losing more than 1.5lbs a week, at my weight. At least for the first 40 lbs or so. (Also,I swim laps for 30 min five days a week.) Then I understand the weight starts coming off slower. I merely made a statement wondering if it had something to do with the fact that I have been eating a lot less than MFP suggests. The question I wanted help with though, was wether or not I should eat the calories earned from exercise....
  • blankiefinder
    blankiefinder Posts: 3,599 Member
    Molly, I just hope you can step back and realize that most of the posters here would love to help you achieve your weight loss goals, and have only the best intentions. You originally did not say that you were weighing your food, and some have obviously missed your much later post that you are.

    If you are sure that you are weighing all your food and logging everything, there are a few other things that it could be.

    1. Some of the food entries in the database are wildly off. It might be worth double checking the nutrition facts on each item you add for a little while, just to make sure they are all good.

    2. Some people set their MFP activity level wrong. MFP activity level does not include any exercise you are logging. Most people are sedentary.

    3. If you are sure that you are doing everything right and your weight loss is not what you expect, then a visit to the doctor would be a good idea.

    Keep in mind that if you lose a bit slower, you will lose less muscle mass during this process, and will probably be happier with the end results, and may potentially have less loose skin after.

    Lastly, stick around for a while, most people who have been at this for a while come to realize that the 'mean' people aren't mean, they are honest, genuine and helpful.
  • MissMollyPacendova
    MissMollyPacendova Posts: 30 Member
    jemhh wrote: »
    In short, when you don't have consume enough calories your metabolism slows down because it thinks you are starving. So I don't agree that the less you eat the more you lose, within reason, of course.

    So, as I said, I respect your opinion, and I sincerely appreciate that you took time to advise me. I think I just need to consult a nutritionist or doctor.
    Thank you

    I would suggest a registered dietitian since nutritionists are a dime a dozen.

    Adaptive thermogenesis happens over time during weight loss. But you seem to be inching toward what people call "starvation mode" which is a bunch of hooey. If you eat in a caloric deficit, you will continue to burn fat and lose fat. Some people diet extremely, which leads to cortisol issues, resulting in water retention that masks fat loss. But considering that you have not answered "yes" to the question of whether you are weighing your food with a digital kitchen scale, I doubt that is your problem. My guess is that you are simply eating more than you think you are.


    I didn't answer the question about the scale because at that point I ceased to be interested in others' opinions. But for the record, I am very careful with serving sizes.

    Thank you for your concern

    ***bolded
    This is not weighing!
    Like i said before serving sizes can be very inaccurate

    i just ate a tortilla from flatout flatbread
    53 gram per serving/tortilla it says on the label 90 calories
    i do weigh and it was 61 gram so 104 calories and not 90.

    Not much isnt it? But take all these inaccurate serving sizes over a week and you have hunderds of NOT calculated calories...which for me means ( i have a small deficit) that i have NO deficit at all.


    but again gl OP i dont want to discus or debat, only you can do it and make it happen. Members here can only tell you what worked or not worked.

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    I do weigh my food
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    4) exercise database is off too...eat back half
  • blankiefinder
    blankiefinder Posts: 3,599 Member
    The question I wanted help with though, was wether or not I should eat the calories earned from exercise....

    To answer this question, if you are already losing slower than expected, then no, you shouldn't eat back your exercise calories unless you figure out why you're losing slower than expected.
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,260 Member
    jemhh wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    Lots of people on here have lost 100+lbs (check out the success stories).

    The most common & successful approach is:
    1. Eating the calorie goal MFP gave them (net calories)
    2. Logging everything they consume using a digital food scale

    It's really that simple. Don't over-complicate it.

    Well everyone seems to insist that since I'm eating half of what MFP recommends I should be losing more

    Until you start using a digital food scale to weigh your food, you have no clue what you are eating. It makes a HUGE difference.




    Omg... I do weigh my food! I even make my own salad dressings!

    Your diary isn't open, so we can only take your word for it that you are logging accurately. when someone says they are eating at a low calorie intake and are not losing weight, typically the first thing that's a possibility is inaccuracy in logging/weighing. Unless there's a metabolic issue with thyroid or another health related problem that hasn't been addressed yet.

    Also, you were asked a bunch of times whether or not you weighed your food and I think your response got buried in a post.

    How long have you been counting your calories? I believe that your OP said you just started using the app. Were you using the website or another calorie counting method before? What entries are you choosing from the MFP database? Are they authoritative (i.e., USDA entries, entries matching food packaging, etc.) How many calories are you actually eating? How much weight have you lost altogether, and over what time frame? What kind of exercise are you doing and how often/long are you doing it? What is your non-exercise daily activity level like? Your age and height?

    Oh my those are a lot of questions! I just started using the app, but I have been keeping a food diary. When I got the app I plugged in days to see what I was doing. I do weigh or measure everything I put in my mouth. (When I shop I only buy from the produce and meat department. I have cut out all processed foods). I just feel like I should be losing more than 1.5lbs a week, at my weight. At least for the first 40 lbs or so. (Also,I swim laps for 30 min five days a week.) Then I understand the weight starts coming off slower. I merely made a statement wondering if it had something to do with the fact that I have been eating a lot less than MFP suggests. The question I wanted help with though, was wether or not I should eat the calories earned from exercise....

    I am a big proponent of eating exercise calories because I believe in fueling my exercise. However, I believe that @DeguelloTex, who has lost over 100 pounds, did not eat his exercise calories when he was in the thick of weight loss (by that, I mean at the beginning.) I'm not sure what he is doing now but hopefully he'll pipe up. Anyway, I am a fan of eating as much as possible while losing weight and of having really good workouts, which I find I cannot do if I don't eat exercise calories while losing weight.
  • Ninkyou
    Ninkyou Posts: 6,666 Member
    The question I wanted help with though, was wether or not I should eat the calories earned from exercise....

    I would eat back half of those exercise calories since the MFP database often overinflates calorie burns. So if it says you burned 500, go with 250.
  • MissMollyPacendova
    MissMollyPacendova Posts: 30 Member
    jemhh wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    In short, when you don't have consume enough calories your metabolism slows down because it thinks you are starving. So I don't agree that the less you eat the more you lose, within reason, of course.

    So, as I said, I respect your opinion, and I sincerely appreciate that you took time to advise me. I think I just need to consult a nutritionist or doctor.
    Thank you

    I would suggest a registered dietitian since nutritionists are a dime a dozen.

    Adaptive thermogenesis happens over time during weight loss. But you seem to be inching toward what people call "starvation mode" which is a bunch of hooey. If you eat in a caloric deficit, you will continue to burn fat and lose fat. Some people diet extremely, which leads to cortisol issues, resulting in water retention that masks fat loss. But considering that you have not answered "yes" to the question of whether you are weighing your food with a digital kitchen scale, I doubt that is your problem. My guess is that you are simply eating more than you think you are.


    I didn't answer the question about the scale because at that point I ceased to be interested in others' opinions. But for the record, I am very careful with serving sizes.

    Thank you for your concern

    So no, you are not weighing your food. You are eating more than you think you are. Your original post, which you deleted, indicated that you want to lose 3 pounds per week but are currently losing 1-1.5 pounds per week. With your weight loss goal, 3 pounds per week may be possible but I would suggest changing it to 2 pounds per week. I don't know your height but I ran your TDEE using this calculator with my height and age (5'6", 39 yo) and a 1.5 activity level (sedentary job + activity once per week) and came up with 3126 calories per day. A 1500 calorie (3 lb/wk) deficit would cut your intake nearly in half. I think that's extreme. I'd aim for 2100 calories per day, weigh everything, and log accurately. Do that you and you'll lose weight.

    Excuse me, but I do weigh and measure EVERTHING I put in my mouth.
    MFP suggests 1900 + 500 for excerise= 2400
    I have been eating WAY less.
  • goldthistime
    goldthistime Posts: 3,213 Member
    Eating more won't make you lose faster, but will make you lose more efficiently, if that's what you're thinking of OP. Lots of studies show that as soon as you start a diet your metabolism slows. Perhaps its just the thermic effect of food (TEF) which is said to be about 10% of your caloric intake. Meaning that if you had your CICO calculations down to a science and switched from trying to lose .5lb/week to 2lb/week you will actually have to reduce your food intake by MORE than 750 calories to make it happen. Personally though, I think it's almost impossible to measure precisely. Even if I manage to record my food intake exactly correctly, and measure my exercise calorie expenditure exactly correctly, how do I account for muscle mass changes during the process (which directly affects metabolism), as well as how fatigued or energetic I am during the other 23 hours in my day? I'm down with the advice to head in the right direction and just keep going.
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    I've lost 94 pounds. I don't eat all those exercise calories for several reasons, but I do recommend trying to lose weight while eating them. Most people can. The app is designed that way. It's the easiest way to go.

    If you try that and it doesn't work, you can try 75% or 50% or whatever.

    If you don't want to eat them at all, that's your choice, I support it. No reason you need to do what I advise or what anyone else here advises.

    It's good that you're going to see a doctor and a dietitian. That's the best and smartest way to go about it. :)
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,368 Member
    In short, when you don't have consume enough calories your metabolism slows down because it thinks you are starving. So I don't agree that the less you eat the more you lose, within reason, of course.

    So, as I said, I respect your opinion, and I sincerely appreciate that you took time to advise me. I think I just need to consult a nutritionist or doctor.
    Thank you

    This is a pretty widespread myth, so I can understand why you think that. While long-term starvation will impact the metabolism, 1,200 calories isn't going to put you in that range. And even if your metabolism slows, you will still lose weight -- if this wasn't the case, then nobody would ever starve to death. I understand where you're coming from though: there is so much misinformation, half-truths, and junk science floating out there about weight loss that many of us have had to unlearn what we thought we knew.

    For those of us dieting to lose weight and not in siege/prison camp situations, the less we eat, the more we will lose. This doesn't mean we should eat as little as possible -- but as to your question (Will I lose more if I eat 1,900 a day as opposed to 1,200 a day?), the answer is clear.

    I'm seriously not interested in debating you. I have my opinions and experiences, and am no longer interested in others' opinions or thoughts on the matter.

    But thanks for the input

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  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member

    Excuse me, but I do weigh and measure EVERTHING I put in my mouth.
    MFP suggests 1900 + 500 for excerise= 2400
    I have been eating WAY less.

    I don't see that as a problem providing you get adequate nutrition which it sounds like you're doing with the whole foods approach.
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,260 Member
    jemhh wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    In short, when you don't have consume enough calories your metabolism slows down because it thinks you are starving. So I don't agree that the less you eat the more you lose, within reason, of course.

    So, as I said, I respect your opinion, and I sincerely appreciate that you took time to advise me. I think I just need to consult a nutritionist or doctor.
    Thank you

    I would suggest a registered dietitian since nutritionists are a dime a dozen.

    Adaptive thermogenesis happens over time during weight loss. But you seem to be inching toward what people call "starvation mode" which is a bunch of hooey. If you eat in a caloric deficit, you will continue to burn fat and lose fat. Some people diet extremely, which leads to cortisol issues, resulting in water retention that masks fat loss. But considering that you have not answered "yes" to the question of whether you are weighing your food with a digital kitchen scale, I doubt that is your problem. My guess is that you are simply eating more than you think you are.


    I didn't answer the question about the scale because at that point I ceased to be interested in others' opinions. But for the record, I am very careful with serving sizes.

    Thank you for your concern

    So no, you are not weighing your food. You are eating more than you think you are. Your original post, which you deleted, indicated that you want to lose 3 pounds per week but are currently losing 1-1.5 pounds per week. With your weight loss goal, 3 pounds per week may be possible but I would suggest changing it to 2 pounds per week. I don't know your height but I ran your TDEE using this calculator with my height and age (5'6", 39 yo) and a 1.5 activity level (sedentary job + activity once per week) and came up with 3126 calories per day. A 1500 calorie (3 lb/wk) deficit would cut your intake nearly in half. I think that's extreme. I'd aim for 2100 calories per day, weigh everything, and log accurately. Do that you and you'll lose weight.

    Excuse me, but I do weigh and measure EVERTHING I put in my mouth.
    MFP suggests 1900 + 500 for excerise= 2400
    I have been eating WAY less.

    I posted that 10 minutes before you finally answered whether or not you weigh, which had been asked several times by that point.

    So you *just* got the app and then went back to backfill days?
  • MissMollyPacendova
    MissMollyPacendova Posts: 30 Member
    Most of the posters here who have lost "massive" amounts of weight will tell you the same thing the people in this thread are telling you. I've currently lost over 20% of my original starting weight. When I first did it, I ate too little. I didn't stop losing weight, but I gained a bunch of it back because I didn't take the advice of others to eat at a sustainable deficit. The 2nd time I did it, I followed the advice I got on MFP and have had sustained success.

    OMG!!! That is exactly what I have been saying!!! Yes I am having some weight loss. But what did you just say??? YOU ATE TOO LITTLE!! Then you followed the advise you got on MFP and you have ha sustained success.
    That's what I have been saying, but everyone has been saying, no... The less I eat the more I'll lose, that eating half of the recommended calories like I am should yield the best results. And before someone else tells me that I'm eating more than I think I am, I weigh and measure everything...

  • MissMollyPacendova
    MissMollyPacendova Posts: 30 Member
    jemhh wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    What goal did MFP give you?


    1900 plus 500 from exercise


    Are you eating 1900 (500 under 2400) or 1400 (500 under 1900)?

    I have been eating around 1000-1200 depending on the day
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,260 Member
    Most of the posters here who have lost "massive" amounts of weight will tell you the same thing the people in this thread are telling you. I've currently lost over 20% of my original starting weight. When I first did it, I ate too little. I didn't stop losing weight, but I gained a bunch of it back because I didn't take the advice of others to eat at a sustainable deficit. The 2nd time I did it, I followed the advice I got on MFP and have had sustained success.

    OMG!!! That is exactly what I have been saying!!! Yes I am having some weight loss. But what did you just say??? YOU ATE TOO LITTLE!! Then you followed the advise you got on MFP and you have ha sustained success.
    That's what I have been saying, but everyone has been saying, no... The less I eat the more I'll lose, that eating half of the recommended calories like I am should yield the best results. And before someone else tells me that I'm eating more than I think I am, I weigh and measure everything...

    I'm not sure you understood what he posted. He ate too little and did not stop losing weight. He gained his weight back because he could not sustain that deficit. That means he started eating more again. Then he gained weight. Then he chose to eat at a more moderate deficit, has been able to keep doing that, and has kept losing.
  • tincanonastring
    tincanonastring Posts: 3,944 Member
    edited October 2015
    Most of the posters here who have lost "massive" amounts of weight will tell you the same thing the people in this thread are telling you. I've currently lost over 20% of my original starting weight. When I first did it, I ate too little. I didn't stop losing weight, but I gained a bunch of it back because I didn't take the advice of others to eat at a sustainable deficit. The 2nd time I did it, I followed the advice I got on MFP and have had sustained success.

    OMG!!! That is exactly what I have been saying!!! Yes I am having some weight loss. But what did you just say??? YOU ATE TOO LITTLE!! Then you followed the advise you got on MFP and you have ha sustained success.
    That's what I have been saying, but everyone has been saying, no... The less I eat the more I'll lose, that eating half of the recommended calories like I am should yield the best results. And before someone else tells me that I'm eating more than I think I am, I weigh and measure everything...

    No, I I was eating a VLCD and not eating my exercise calories back. I lost the weight very quickly, almost exactly what MFP predicted based on my measurements and intake at the time. Then I crashed because that level of deficit and exercise is unsustainable. When I started following the advice of the people on this forum, I ate at a much more moderate deficit with the expectation of losing at a slower rate. I'm maintaining that level of deficit and losing at the predicted, albeit slower, rate.
  • I_Will_End_You
    I_Will_End_You Posts: 4,397 Member
    Most of the posters here who have lost "massive" amounts of weight will tell you the same thing the people in this thread are telling you. I've currently lost over 20% of my original starting weight. When I first did it, I ate too little. I didn't stop losing weight, but I gained a bunch of it back because I didn't take the advice of others to eat at a sustainable deficit. The 2nd time I did it, I followed the advice I got on MFP and have had sustained success.

    OMG!!! That is exactly what I have been saying!!! Yes I am having some weight loss. But what did you just say??? YOU ATE TOO LITTLE!! Then you followed the advise you got on MFP and you have ha sustained success.
    That's what I have been saying, but everyone has been saying, no... The less I eat the more I'll lose, that eating half of the recommended calories like I am should yield the best results. And before someone else tells me that I'm eating more than I think I am, I weigh and measure everything...

    You don't stop losing weight when you eat too little. It's just harder to maintain such a big deficit.


    My opinion on whether you should eat back your exercise calories is no, you should not. If you were losing more rapidly than you planned I'd say yes, but since you're losing less than you had equated for, I'm going with no. Something is off in the equation, so just stick with what you're doing and keep losing 1.5 lbs a week.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    jemhh wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    What goal did MFP give you?


    1900 plus 500 from exercise


    Are you eating 1900 (500 under 2400) or 1400 (500 under 1900)?

    I have been eating around 1000-1200 depending on the day

    Yeah ?

    You've either got a medical condition affecting your TDEE or you have logging issues either through food selection from the horribly inaccurate food database or overestimating exercise from the equally inaccurate exercise database but most probably both
  • goldthistime
    goldthistime Posts: 3,213 Member
    edited October 2015
    jemhh wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    What goal did MFP give you?


    1900 plus 500 from exercise


    Are you eating 1900 (500 under 2400) or 1400 (500 under 1900)?

    I have been eating around 1000-1200 depending on the day

    Up your calories :). You want this to be a sustainable thing. Even better, an ENJOYABLE journey.

  • VykkDraygoVPR
    VykkDraygoVPR Posts: 465 Member
    So did you make it a point to eat less then recommended?

    No, why would I? I lost weight by eating less. Some times I ate even less that usual, and lost more. It wasn't ever on purpose.

    My brother ate a severely restricted diet (Special K and milk for breakfast, undressed salad for lunch, tuna for supper). He lost the weight, but he was miserable, and an intolerable *kitten* for the duration. He definitely didn't lose more slowly by eating less. In fact, he lost weight far more quickly than I did.
  • DeguelloTex
    DeguelloTex Posts: 6,652 Member
    edited October 2015
    I've lost 124 pounds. I didn't eat back my exercise calories for a very long time for three reasons:

    1. I had enough fat to provide waaaaaay more than enough calories to cover my deficit without having to worry about losing a lot of lean body mass.
    2. Even at a 1000 deficit, my calorie goal was high enough that I didn't have to worry much about getting enough nutrition.
    3. I had plenty of energy to do what I wanted to do.

    To the extent all three of those are true for you, I think it's reasonable at least to consider not eating back exercise calories. I wouldn't advise not eating them just to push the weight loss envelope, though. Better to err on the conservative side.

    That said, the MFP approach is to eat back whatever realistically matches your burn so that your weight loss over time closely tracks your goal weight loss. There are numerous reasons for that, ranging from being able to stick with it to properly fueling your body. It is conceivable that some people can do without eating them back, but it should be a very informed decision, not just a "I want to lose faster."
  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,454 Member
    OP you really need to take a step back and breathe. It also would probably be beneficial to read through the entire thread of people's responses before responding to individual posts, because as you provide new information, people come back and may revise their suggestions, but your defensive responses are really getting this off track when people are trying to be helpful. No one is accusing you of being a liar, or stupid, or anything like that when they ask these questions. They are asking because these are the most common mistakes that occur when people first start using MFP. Making mistakes is not a bad thing - it just means you have room for improvement - which is what we all want.

    Since you deleted your original post I'm not sure if I've got this exactly right but it sounds like you were asking initially if you should be eating back exercise calories, but mentioned that you thought that if you ate more calories you might lose weight faster because you thought you might be in starvation mode? I think by now that poor horse has been beaten to death - there isn't such a thing as starvation mode for the average dieter as many often think they will ruin their metabolism by undereating for a few weeks/months, etc.

    The other advice that you've gotten here, about making sure that you are as accurate as possible with your logging, is a good one. You say you have a food scale, and that you weigh (and measure) your food. That's good. You may also want to try reading some of the links in the top of the various forum threads for some more helpful information about how to best use MFP. I would suggest:

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1234699/logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide/p1

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1077746/starvation-mode-adaptive-thermogenesis-and-weight-loss/p1

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10012907/logging-accuracy-consistency-and-youre-probably-eating-more-than-you-think/p1

    And finally, my favorite:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1235566/so-youre-new-here/p1
  • MissMollyPacendova
    MissMollyPacendova Posts: 30 Member
    I've lost 124 pounds. I didn't eat back my exercise calories for a very long time for three reasons:

    1. I had enough fat to provide waaaaaay more than enough calories to cover my deficit without having to worry about losing a lot of lean body mass.
    2. Even at a 1000 deficit, my calorie goal was high enough that I didn't have to worry much about getting enough nutrition.
    3. I had plenty of energy to do what I wanted to do.

    To the extent all three of those are true for you, I think it's reasonable at least to consider not eating back exercise calories. I wouldn't advise not eating them just to push the weight loss envelope, though. Better to err on the conservative side.

    That said, the MFP approach is to eat back whatever realistically matches your burn so that your weight loss over time closely tracks your goal weight loss. There are numerous reasons for that, ranging from being able to stick with it to properly fueling your body. It is conceivable that some people can do without eating them back, but it should be a very informed decision, not just a "I want to lose faster."

    Thank you for your advice.

    So as I understand it, you ate the calories recommended?

    I'm confused about one thing you said though...

    It is conceivable that some people can do without eating them back, but it should be a very informed decision, not just a "I want to lose faster."[/quote]

    Are you suggesting that it may be possible to lose faster by eating the exercise calories? (Eating more)
    If that is indeed what you are suggesting, that would be a very unpopular opinion....

  • MissMollyPacendova
    MissMollyPacendova Posts: 30 Member
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    OP you really need to take a step back and breathe. It also would probably be beneficial to read through the entire thread of people's responses before responding to individual posts, because as you provide new information, people come back and may revise their suggestions, but your defensive responses are really getting this off track when people are trying to be helpful. No one is accusing you of being a liar, or stupid, or anything like that when they ask these questions. They are asking because these are the most common mistakes that occur when people first start using MFP. Making mistakes is not a bad thing - it just means you have room for improvement - which is what we all want.

    Since you deleted your original post I'm not sure if I've got this exactly right but it sounds like you were asking initially if you should be eating back exercise calories, but mentioned that you thought that if you ate more calories you might lose weight faster because you thought you might be in starvation mode? I think by now that poor horse has been beaten to death - there isn't such a thing as starvation mode for the average dieter as many often think they will ruin their metabolism by undereating for a few weeks/months, etc.

    The other advice that you've gotten here, about making sure that you are as accurate as possible with your logging, is a good one. You say you have a food scale, and that you weigh (and measure) your food. That's good. You may also want to try reading some of the links in the top of the various forum threads for some more helpful information about how to best use MFP. I would suggest:

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1234699/logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide/p1

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1077746/starvation-mode-adaptive-thermogenesis-and-weight-loss/p1

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10012907/logging-accuracy-consistency-and-youre-probably-eating-more-than-you-think/p1

    And finally, my favorite:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1235566/so-youre-new-here/p1


    Thanks for the links..
    When I asked if I should eat more, I asked if I should eat the recommended calories, because I have not been, and I wondered if that may be why I'm not losing as quickly as I feel I should.
    And no, I don't think I'm in starvation mode, lol.
  • VykkDraygoVPR
    VykkDraygoVPR Posts: 465 Member
    Are you suggesting that it may be possible to lose faster by eating the exercise calories? (Eating more)
    If that is indeed what you are suggesting, that would be a very unpopular opinion....

    What he is saying is that some people (people with a lot of weight left to lose), will not need to eat their exercise calories back. That would be eating less.

    So, a typical day for me is 1800 calories. I do about 300 calories worth of cycling most days, which gives me 300 more calories to eat, bumping me up to 2100. My deficit is 1000 calories a day (2lbs a week, though I should slow that soon). Days I don't exercise, I stay at 1800 calories (like yesterday).


    No, eating more will not make you lose more. Eating too little can have a negative impact on your health, but you won't lose less by under eating. I would recommend that you eat your goal, for health reasons. Eat your exercise calories back if you are hungry, or if you are losing faster than you expect.
  • tincanonastring
    tincanonastring Posts: 3,944 Member
    edited October 2015
    Are you suggesting that it may be possible to lose faster by eating the exercise calories? (Eating more)
    If that is indeed what you are suggesting, that would be a very unpopular opinion....

    No, that's not what he's suggesting. He's saying (and he can tell me to back off if I'm wrong) that if you decide not to eat them, you will lose faster, but the decision not to eat them back shouldn't be made just to lose at a faster rate.

    I agree with him. The decision should be part of a comprehensive fitness strategy. For example, I set my calories for a .5 pound/week rate of loss. As long as I stick to around that level, I lose at about that rate. That's with no exercise. However, I do 3 days of cardio a week. For the most part, I don't eat back my exercise calories. This gets me an additional pound of loss per week, on average. If I decide to skip cardio days, no biggie because my minimum deficit is still factored in.
  • VykkDraygoVPR
    VykkDraygoVPR Posts: 465 Member
    I agree with him. The decision should be part of a comprehensive fitness strategy. For example, I set my calories for a .5 pound/week rate of loss. As long as I stick to around that level, I lose at about that rate. That's with no exercise. However, I do 3 days of cardio a week. For the most part, I don't eat back my exercise calories. This gets me an additional pound of loss per week, on average. If I decide to skip cardio days, no biggie because my minimum deficit is still factored in.

    That's a good plan. I might start doing that.
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