on butter and people that can change their mind

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  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
    Links like this are too broad. Telling people to eat a Mediterranean diet is not helpful because it's not specific. There are eight-teen countries with coasts on the Mediterranean. Which food plans are the right ones? Egypt? Greece? Morocco? France?
  • Gianfranco_R
    Gianfranco_R Posts: 1,297 Member
    RodaRose wrote: »
    Links like this are too broad. Telling people to eat a Mediterranean diet is not helpful because it's not specific. There are eight-teen countries with coasts on the Mediterranean. Which food plans are the right ones? Egypt? Greece? Morocco? France?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    I'm with you Gian (my son's name is Gianfranco too). I live in Italy, Rome, and my husband's family is from the South in Puglia. EVOO is our staple fat and we buy it direct from the farmers. The Mediterranean Diet is not so complicated, and the beauty of it is--yes there are lots of Mediterranean countries with a different take on it, so you can pick the one that's closest to your tastes. It's extremely well ballanced. I have no problem hitting my macros everyday. I do use butter, but very little. I do not demonize it--or anything else. Thanks for the article. Ciao.
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    I'm Italian. Olive oil seeps out of my pores.

    Don't get me wrong, I love butter, but like snowflake, I use it sparingly and have side-eyed the whole massive over consumption of it.

    It was interesting to me to see the difference in effect between cream and butter.

    While I don't low-carb, I appreciated some of the information in this article.
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    edited October 2015
    The Mediterranean diet is a popular and healthy one, so yay it.

    I don't use butter unless I'm baking. I used to slather it on things. I thought I liked the taste of butter. Unsalted butter, though, I didn't like. I still didn't realize that it was the salt, not the butter, that I liked. When I switched my diet, I figured that out, lol. Now, I never use it. And I skip the salt because I found much better things to use. Even if I didn't care about my health, I now like flavors of food combinations and spices much more than I like salt, salt and more salt.

    I thought I loved butter, but I didn't. Who knew? ;)

    Sometimes I use oil while cooking, but less than I once did. A lot of times, I use some kind of stock. I guess that means I'm steaming food instead of frying it, but what the heck. There are really only a few things that I fry and it's only because they must be fried due to breaded coatings or whathaveyou.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    I like butter -- I've always only used unsalted because when I learned to cook that was always the advice, so you can better control how much salt is added. However, I tend to use it sparingly, and only for foods where the taste provides a real benefit. For routine cooking of vegetables (and most other things) I use olive oil or sometimes coconut oil. And less of that than I used to.

    I've gone back to using a little EVOO in salad dressings too (more calories, but worth it).
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    RodaRose wrote: »
    Links like this are too broad. Telling people to eat a Mediterranean diet is not helpful because it's not specific. There are eight-teen countries with coasts on the Mediterranean. Which food plans are the right ones? Egypt? Greece? Morocco? France?

    Yes. The French with their rich diet, have fewer heart problems. I say use all of them for variety.
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    edited October 2015
    I was watching a special on the Med diet yesterday. It was talking about the island of Sardinia (Italy) which has generated alot of diet studies because a high percentage of people live into the 100's. They gave an example of what the people ate in a day.

    Breakfast--100g whole grain bread, a cup of goat milk, a fruit
    Snack---50g whole grain bread, a cup of goat milk
    Lunch--soup made with 50g small pasta, various veg, 120g lamb, 2 tbl EVOO
    glass of wine, fruit
    Dinner---30g nuts (walnuts, almonds), cup of goat milk, 50g whole wheat bread

    They showed how the menu changed, especially seasonally with the local produce avaliable. I'm trying to remember everything, and the amounts, but may have slipped up. However, the idea is there. I found dinner with nuts,and then whole wheat bread and maybe a little piece of cheese interesting. Goat milk is not possible for the masses, but it could be substituted with something else available.
  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
    http://www.ibtimes.com/sardinias-secret-longevity-genetics-diet-lifestyle-754380
    One group of Sardinians has has been studied for its longevity

    While scientists still can't determine whether the secret behind Sardinians' long lives is diet, lifestyle, genetics or the combination of thereof, the island's Melis family was recognized by the Guinness World Records on Tuesday for having the world's oldest combined age in a family.
    To Alfonso Melis, one of the celebrated siblings, however, the secret to long life is not exactly that complicated. When asked the question, he simply said: "We eat genuine food, meaning lots of minestrone and little meat and we are always working."
    As long ago as 2005, National Geographic magazine reported that the presence motor vehicles on the island has greatly reduced the healthy exercise of walking. Obesity, which was unknown in Sardinia prior to 1940, now affects about one-tenth of the population.

    "Children want potato chips and pizzas. That's what they see on TV," said a local named Tonino. "Bread and pecorino [a hard Italian cheese] are old-fashioned."
  • Gianfranco_R
    Gianfranco_R Posts: 1,297 Member
    RodaRose wrote: »
    http://www.ibtimes.com/sardinias-secret-longevity-genetics-diet-lifestyle-754380
    One group of Sardinians has has been studied for its longevity

    While scientists still can't determine whether the secret behind Sardinians' long lives is diet, lifestyle, genetics or the combination of thereof, the island's Melis family was recognized by the Guinness World Records on Tuesday for having the world's oldest combined age in a family.
    To Alfonso Melis, one of the celebrated siblings, however, the secret to long life is not exactly that complicated. When asked the question, he simply said: "We eat genuine food, meaning lots of minestrone and little meat and we are always working."
    As long ago as 2005, National Geographic magazine reported that the presence motor vehicles on the island has greatly reduced the healthy exercise of walking. Obesity, which was unknown in Sardinia prior to 1940, now affects about one-tenth of the population.

    "Children want potato chips and pizzas. That's what they see on TV," said a local named Tonino. "Bread and pecorino [a hard Italian cheese] are old-fashioned."

    To say the truth, referring to the whole Sardinia as a "blue zone", with its entire population of 1,6 million, is misleading. The life expectancy there is not different from other Italian regions (and not even among the highest)

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