strong lifts - does it really take you 45 minutes?

I have done Strong Lifts in the past, was successful but got pregnant, so I stopped. But now i have started again and have read up about it again. They are saying you should wait 2-4 minutes between each set of reps! Is that really necessary? Will it make my workout better if I do? If I'm feeling "ok" can I just wait a minute or thereabout? (I realise that as I increase the weights, I will probably need to increase the time in between to get my arms/legs to want to work again...)

Thank you

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  • Mycophilia
    Mycophilia Posts: 1,225 Member
    The guy behind SL recommends either waiting until your pulse is back to normal or waiting 1.5 minutes if the set felt light, 3 minutes if it felt heavy or 5 minutes if you failed to get all 5 reps.
  • LernRach
    LernRach Posts: 286 Member
    But from your experience, is that really necessary? I find myself standing around doing nothing for ages, feels like a waste... If it will make it a "better" workout, I suppose I will do it, but just wanted to find out
  • armylife
    armylife Posts: 196 Member
    edited October 2015
    The point of the 2-4 minute range is to give the body some ability to recover ATP used for muscle contraction during the set. The best test results I have seen say it takes 10-12 seconds of rest for every second of work for the ATP cycle to occur. Since this is the short duration, high output energy pathway this is what you are trying to allow to recover. And it is the most applicable and best pathway for strength development. Generally you start SL at a low enough percentage of 1 RM you should be able to recovery quickly.

    Rest as long as you feel you need to. You may even want to time your rest periods if you have not in the past. 120 seconds can go by very quickly. If you realize you are struggling to recover increase the rest period.
  • Mycophilia
    Mycophilia Posts: 1,225 Member
    Once the weight gets heavy you'll have no choice. But if you're just starting out and the weights are really light, I'd say start the next set when you feel ready for it.
  • LernRach
    LernRach Posts: 286 Member
    armylife wrote: »
    The point of the 2-4 minute range is to give the body some ability to recover ATP used for muscle contractions. The best test results I have seen are it takes 10-12 seconds of rest for every second of work. Since this is the short duration, high output energy pathway this is what you are trying to allow to recover. Since you generally start SL at a very low percentage of 1 RM you should be able to recovery quickly.

    Rest as long as you feel you need to. You may even want to time your rest periods if you have not in the past. 120 seconds can go by very quickly. If you realize you are struggling to recover increase the rest period.

    Ok, so you are saying it makes sense that at the moment when I'm only doing 12.5kg or something like that, that my recovery time is quick, whereas in a month it will take me much longer to do?
  • kami3006
    kami3006 Posts: 4,979 Member
    The heavier it gets the more likely you'll find the need to rest that long. It rests both your muscles and your central nervous system. I ran it for 25 weeks and couldn't finsh a full 5x5 without about 2-3 minutes between sets without my form breaking down. So by the end it was over an hour for the whole work out.
  • armylife
    armylife Posts: 196 Member
    LernRach wrote: »
    armylife wrote: »
    The point of the 2-4 minute range is to give the body some ability to recover ATP used for muscle contractions. The best test results I have seen are it takes 10-12 seconds of rest for every second of work. Since this is the short duration, high output energy pathway this is what you are trying to allow to recover. Since you generally start SL at a very low percentage of 1 RM you should be able to recovery quickly.

    Rest as long as you feel you need to. You may even want to time your rest periods if you have not in the past. 120 seconds can go by very quickly. If you realize you are struggling to recover increase the rest period.

    Ok, so you are saying it makes sense that at the moment when I'm only doing 12.5kg or something like that, that my recovery time is quick, whereas in a month it will take me much longer to do?

    Yes, but I still think you should time the rest periods and make sure you are going short.
  • kami3006
    kami3006 Posts: 4,979 Member
    armylife wrote: »
    LernRach wrote: »
    armylife wrote: »
    The point of the 2-4 minute range is to give the body some ability to recover ATP used for muscle contractions. The best test results I have seen are it takes 10-12 seconds of rest for every second of work. Since this is the short duration, high output energy pathway this is what you are trying to allow to recover. Since you generally start SL at a very low percentage of 1 RM you should be able to recovery quickly.

    Rest as long as you feel you need to. You may even want to time your rest periods if you have not in the past. 120 seconds can go by very quickly. If you realize you are struggling to recover increase the rest period.

    Ok, so you are saying it makes sense that at the moment when I'm only doing 12.5kg or something like that, that my recovery time is quick, whereas in a month it will take me much longer to do?

    Yes, but I still think you should time the rest periods and make sure you are going short.

    Yes, time it. The SL app has a timer built in.
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    LernRach wrote: »
    armylife wrote: »
    The point of the 2-4 minute range is to give the body some ability to recover ATP used for muscle contractions. The best test results I have seen are it takes 10-12 seconds of rest for every second of work. Since this is the short duration, high output energy pathway this is what you are trying to allow to recover. Since you generally start SL at a very low percentage of 1 RM you should be able to recovery quickly.

    Rest as long as you feel you need to. You may even want to time your rest periods if you have not in the past. 120 seconds can go by very quickly. If you realize you are struggling to recover increase the rest period.

    Ok, so you are saying it makes sense that at the moment when I'm only doing 12.5kg or something like that, that my recovery time is quick, whereas in a month it will take me much longer to do?

    Exactly this, but probably more like several months to half a year or so, depending. Go ahead and take less rest now but be aware that you'll need more once you start to use weights that "feel" heavier.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    When I started I took short rest periods, and the total workout took about half an hour. As the lifts got heavier, rest periods got longer, and it took about an hour. At that point, the workouts were just too long, so I dropped to 3x5 instead of 5x5.
  • Dez11B
    Dez11B Posts: 1,542 Member
    Try super sets. It's will give your muscles the rest time while working another. No time wasted or feel like wasted time.
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    sith78 wrote: »
    Try super sets. It's will give your muscles the rest time while working another. No time wasted or feel like wasted time.

    Then she wouldn't be doing stronglifts
  • LKArgh
    LKArgh Posts: 5,178 Member
    sith78 wrote: »
    Try super sets. It's will give your muscles the rest time while working another. No time wasted or feel like wasted time.

    But you cannot do supersets with a program like stronglifts. There are no isolation exercises.
  • LernRach
    LernRach Posts: 286 Member
    DavPul wrote: »
    sith78 wrote: »
    Try super sets. It's will give your muscles the rest time while working another. No time wasted or feel like wasted time.

    Then she wouldn't be doing stronglifts

    Lol correct! I don't actually know what super sets is but I know strong lifts has worked for me in the past so why not do it again!!

    Thank you for your responses, I suppose I wil persevere, make sure I take a reasonable break and see what happens.... Time is of essence when I'm in the gym as I have a 7wk old baby so I need to make sure I use the short time I have wisely
  • AsISmile
    AsISmile Posts: 1,004 Member
    I don't know how big the effect is, but Mark Riptoe suggests that women need less rest between sets than men.
    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10269471/strength-training-for-women-rippetoe-article

    At the same time, from experience I know that occasionally I need to really have some rest to catch my breath. So just wait for how long feels right to you.
  • samhennings
    samhennings Posts: 441 Member
    LernRach wrote: »
    armylife wrote: »
    The point of the 2-4 minute range is to give the body some ability to recover ATP used for muscle contractions. The best test results I have seen are it takes 10-12 seconds of rest for every second of work. Since this is the short duration, high output energy pathway this is what you are trying to allow to recover. Since you generally start SL at a very low percentage of 1 RM you should be able to recovery quickly.

    Rest as long as you feel you need to. You may even want to time your rest periods if you have not in the past. 120 seconds can go by very quickly. If you realize you are struggling to recover increase the rest period.

    Ok, so you are saying it makes sense that at the moment when I'm only doing 12.5kg or something like that, that my recovery time is quick, whereas in a month it will take me much longer to do?

    Exactly. Early on I waited about 60 seconds between sets and was out of the gym within 20 minutes.

    6 months in I was waiting 3 minutes between sets regularly, and it took a lot longer!

    In each instance I was waiting so long as I felt I needed to, just later on the lifts took so much out of me I needed real time to recover
  • shor0814
    shor0814 Posts: 559 Member
    AsISmile wrote: »
    I don't know how big the effect is, but Mark Riptoe suggests that women need less rest between sets than men.
    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10269471/strength-training-for-women-rippetoe-article

    At the same time, from experience I know that occasionally I need to really have some rest to catch my breath. So just wait for how long feels right to you.

    Exactly. Take the time necessary to have a successful workout. You don't want to fail a set when an additional minute would have given you enough recovery to be successful. I understand time constraints and the need to get out of the gym but that is a balance that you will have to strike for yourself when the weights get heavier.



  • LernRach
    LernRach Posts: 286 Member
    Ok I will certainly take this all into consideration! Even as the weights increase now I can see it definitely takes me longer to recover then it did originally....
  • BklynFitGuy
    BklynFitGuy Posts: 712 Member
    Right now I rest about 1.5-2 minutes between sets but I expect it to move to 2-3 as the weight increases.
  • kerbeya1
    kerbeya1 Posts: 53 Member
    Lift when your ready
  • jsnyder320
    jsnyder320 Posts: 96 Member
    It is personal preference and can change from day to day exercise to exercise. Trust your body and push yourself. Your mind is weak but your body is strong.
  • summerkissed
    summerkissed Posts: 730 Member
    Are you doing them for gaining strength or growing muscle?
  • LernRach
    LernRach Posts: 286 Member
    Are you doing them for gaining strength or growing muscle?

    I suppose growing muscle... As in, toning and that type of thing... I'm just after a baby so I need to get back into shape... I'm doing c25k as well! Aiming for a half marathon next October
  • summerkissed
    summerkissed Posts: 730 Member
    LernRach wrote: »
    Are you doing them for gaining strength or growing muscle?

    I suppose growing muscle... As in, toning and that type of thing... I'm just after a baby so I need to get back into shape... I'm doing c25k as well! Aiming for a half marathon next October

    Send me an inbox message I can't send one to you......ill explain what I do and why...to long to put on here :smile: