Calorie goal too high !?

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  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    edited October 2015
    cdmaso01 wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    cdmaso01 wrote: »
    I punched in my weight and height (yes accurately) and my activity level as active and they are telling me I can eat 1800 calories to lose weight. That seems like wayyyyy to much to loose weight no? I'm 5 2 and weight 210 pounds, but I'm not obese or anything like that. Most people would guess I'm like 160. I also exercise frequently play hockey twice a week soccer once a week and do lots of hikes. Should I try for 1800 calories and if I don't see results lower it? How to I even lower the caloric goal?


    5'2 and 210 is obese though ... It puts your BMI at 38 which is way into class 2 obese and close to morbidly obese

    Overweight (not obese), if BMI is 25.0 to 29.9
    Class 1 (low-risk) obesity, if BMI is 30.0 to 34.9
    Class 2 (moderate-risk) obesity, if BMI is 35.0 to 39.9
    Class 3 (high-risk) obesity, if BMI is equal to or greater than 40.

    As a nurse you understand this is a clinical definition and not a comment on how well you carry weight

    I would agree you are probably moderately active and that 1800 calories is a good starting point. Good luck

    Ive seen many people whose BMI claimed they are obese but aren't even close. If a short bobybuilder did the BMI it would also say they are mobility obese. You make it sound like I am am so grossly obese I can't even leave the house. I came here for support not to be called fat
    You don't even know what I look like in real life so don't go calling me obese. I didn't ask if I was obese or not I asked if this was a reasonable caloric goal or not

    Let me just repost what I said


    As a nurse you understand this is a clinical definition and not a comment on how well you carry weight

    I was obese at 210lbs and I'm 5'8







  • diannethegeek
    diannethegeek Posts: 14,776 Member
    Looks like the OP is getting some good advice in this thread, so I'll just leave this here for the flaggers: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10007789/flagged-content-reported-posts-warning-points
  • cdmaso01
    cdmaso01 Posts: 13 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    cdmaso01 wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    cdmaso01 wrote: »
    I punched in my weight and height (yes accurately) and my activity level as active and they are telling me I can eat 1800 calories to lose weight. That seems like wayyyyy to much to loose weight no? I'm 5 2 and weight 210 pounds, but I'm not obese or anything like that. Most people would guess I'm like 160. I also exercise frequently play hockey twice a week soccer once a week and do lots of hikes. Should I try for 1800 calories and if I don't see results lower it? How to I even lower the caloric goal?


    5'2 and 210 is obese though ... It puts your BMI at 38 which is way into class 2 obese and close to morbidly obese

    Overweight (not obese), if BMI is 25.0 to 29.9
    Class 1 (low-risk) obesity, if BMI is 30.0 to 34.9
    Class 2 (moderate-risk) obesity, if BMI is 35.0 to 39.9
    Class 3 (high-risk) obesity, if BMI is equal to or greater than 40.

    As a nurse you understand this is a clinical definition and not a comment on how well you carry weight

    I would agree you are probably moderately active and that 1800 calories is a good starting point. Good luck

    Ive seen many people whose BMI claimed they are obese but aren't even close. If a short bobybuilder did the BMI it would also say they are mobility obese. You make it sound like I am am so grossly obese I can't even leave the house. I came here for support not to be called fat
    You don't even know what I look like in real life so don't go calling me obese. I didn't ask if I was obese or not I asked if this was a reasonable caloric goal or not

    Let me just repost what I said


    As a nurse you understand this is a clinical definition and not a comment on how well you carry weight

    I was obese at 210lbs and I'm 5'8


    I'm not quite understanding. You mean the BMI is a clinical definition (yes) but it doesn't reflect how you actually carry your weight ?




  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    cdmaso01 wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    cdmaso01 wrote: »
    I punched in my weight and height (yes accurately) and my activity level as active and they are telling me I can eat 1800 calories to lose weight. That seems like wayyyyy to much to loose weight no? I'm 5 2 and weight 210 pounds, but I'm not obese or anything like that. Most people would guess I'm like 160. I also exercise frequently play hockey twice a week soccer once a week and do lots of hikes. Should I try for 1800 calories and if I don't see results lower it? How to I even lower the caloric goal?


    5'2 and 210 is obese though ... It puts your BMI at 38 which is way into class 2 obese and close to morbidly obese

    Overweight (not obese), if BMI is 25.0 to 29.9
    Class 1 (low-risk) obesity, if BMI is 30.0 to 34.9
    Class 2 (moderate-risk) obesity, if BMI is 35.0 to 39.9
    Class 3 (high-risk) obesity, if BMI is equal to or greater than 40.

    As a nurse you understand this is a clinical definition and not a comment on how well you carry weight

    I would agree you are probably moderately active and that 1800 calories is a good starting point. Good luck

    Ive seen many people whose BMI claimed they are obese but aren't even close. If a short bobybuilder did the BMI it would also say they are mobility obese. You make it sound like I am am so grossly obese I can't even leave the house. I came here for support not to be called fat
    You don't even know what I look like in real life so don't go calling me obese. I didn't ask if I was obese or not I asked if this was a reasonable caloric goal or not

    Holy defensive post.

    While you may or may not be obese depending on your musculature, either way it doesn't really matter. Your calorie goal seems appropriate for your size. And if you were low body fat at a high weight, you would expect an even higher goal I would think (if for nothing else you wouldn't want to lose quickly and risk losing LBM).
  • MissTattoo
    MissTattoo Posts: 1,203 Member
    She wasn't calling you fat. She was just giving you the clinical definition of obese, which you are. That doesn't mean you need a flat bed to pick you up out of a chair. It's just according to the all knowing chart of weight/height, you'd be considered obese. It's not an insult. I hope that helps and gets the thread back on track.
  • cdmaso01
    cdmaso01 Posts: 13 Member
    MissTattoo wrote: »
    She wasn't calling you fat. She was just giving you the clinical definition of obese, which you are. That doesn't mean you need a flat bed to pick you up out of a chair. It's just according to the all knowing chart of weight/height, you'd be considered obese. It's not an insult. I hope that helps and gets the

    If I am clinically obese why don't I look it ?
  • cdmaso01
    cdmaso01 Posts: 13 Member
    MissTattoo wrote: »
    She wasn't calling you fat. She was just giving you the clinical definition of obese, which you are. That doesn't mean you need a flat bed to pick you up out of a chair. It's just according to the all knowing chart of weight/height, you'd be considered obese. It's not an insult. I hope that helps and gets the thread back on track.

    Well I guess my question then is if I am clinically u call obese then why don't I look it ?
  • burns429
    burns429 Posts: 104 Member
    edited October 2015
    cdmaso01 wrote: »
    MissTattoo wrote: »
    She wasn't calling you fat. She was just giving you the clinical definition of obese, which you are. That doesn't mean you need a flat bed to pick you up out of a chair. It's just according to the all knowing chart of weight/height, you'd be considered obese. It's not an insult. I hope that helps and gets the thread back on track.

    Well I guess my question then is if I am clinically u call obese then why don't I look it ?

    The BMI numbers don't consider body fat %. Two 6' tall men, both 250 lb. One is 5% body fat, the other 40%. Very different look, same BMI: "obese".
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    edited October 2015
    For the same reason I didn't

    I carry weight well

    But also I have a great self body image

    Looking back to 50 odd pounds ago though, it's amazing how many of my photos make me look a fat that I never felt :bigsmile: - I was busting out of a US 12, I'm now a US 6-8 and still heavy for my looks

    That said your calorie goal is still a good start

    So good luck
  • cdmaso01
    cdmaso01 Posts: 13 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    For the same reason I didn't

    I carry weight well

    But also I have a great self body image

    Looking back to 50 odd pounds ago though, it's amazing how many of my photos make me look a fat that I never felt

    That said your calorie goal is still a good start

    So good luck

    Thanks for the clarification and sorry for being defensive I am just very sensitive about my weight
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    cdmaso01 wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    For the same reason I didn't

    I carry weight well

    But also I have a great self body image

    Looking back to 50 odd pounds ago though, it's amazing how many of my photos make me look a fat that I never felt

    That said your calorie goal is still a good start

    So good luck

    Thanks for the clarification and sorry for being defensive I am just very sensitive about my weight

    Sweetie, it's fine ...don't worry about it

    If you want to do this ...you can

    You sound like you have amazing building blocks in activity and exercise...you just need to get your calories in line to lose the weight ...weigh everything, log accurately to your defecit across the week...and then keep your calories to maintain

    If you need help just ask...there's loads of knowledgeable people who enjoy helping others achieve what they've finally managed to do

    :)
  • kamack1215
    kamack1215 Posts: 109 Member
    cdmaso01 wrote: »
    MissTattoo wrote: »
    She wasn't calling you fat. She was just giving you the clinical definition of obese, which you are. That doesn't mean you need a flat bed to pick you up out of a chair. It's just according to the all knowing chart of weight/height, you'd be considered obese. It's not an insult. I hope that helps and gets the thread back on track.

    Well I guess my question then is if I am clinically u call obese then why don't I look it ?

    As a nurse, I am sure you come across many cases like this on a daily basis. If you look at my profile picture the picture on the left I am only 11 pounds away from being classified as morbidly obese (BMI of 40 or greater) and the photo on the right I am 38 pounds lighter but still obese. There is a huge difference between the BMI definition of obesity than the social definition of obesity. One may be obese according to the, should I say out of date and wack, BMI calculator but when looking at a social definition of obese may not appear to be obese. This has nothing to do with the look of you or the things you are able to do (I am a black belt in TKD and was able to drop kick a 6foot tall person with ease but yet I was almost morbidly obese; I am 5'2).

    i think what people were getting at it yes, based on your stats and the BMI calculator that was created decades ago, you would be considered obese but not everyone who is obese actually looks obese.

    I am assuming you are new to MFP as this is in the Getting Started message board. There is a learning curve that I had to go through when first starting and trying to learn exactly what people were talking about. I found terms here are used on their literal meaning. I hope this helps to clarify some things! :smile:

    Oh and in response to your original post, no, if you are active 1800 calories seems like a very reasonable number. I am lightly active, 5'2, 160.7lbs and to loose 1lbs a week I eat 1510 calories.
  • CoffeeNCardio
    CoffeeNCardio Posts: 1,847 Member

    It's a TDEE calculator that is calling itself a BMR calculator.

    My bad! I probably should have mentioned there's some minutiae to making that one work!
  • CoffeeNCardio
    CoffeeNCardio Posts: 1,847 Member
    edited October 2015
    Actually BMI was created in the nineteenth century, by a Belgian statistician named Adolphe Quetelet for gauging population-wide BMI in order to better distribute resources so half the people weren't starving to death and the other half weren't morbidly overweight. But what @kamack1215 said is STILL true. We don't go solely by a BMI calculator anymore than we go solely by how we look to ourselves. And while the BMI may not bode true for an outlier person (like the two examples she gave), it's a good non-specific, mildly accurate number to keep in mind. It's not the end all be all, and the word "obese" in medical terms so doesn't mean what we imagine when we picture "obese" in our heads, but it's stil worth noting and paying attention to either way. Since you're sensitive about it, I would say just check back with it every so often, and try to focus on healthy eating and exercise and then it'll be a pleasant surprise when your BMI reads better a few months from now! As opposed to a monkey of self-esteem issues on your back throughout your journey.

    Edited because: I couldn't get the quote thing to work right and could my grammar/spelling have been any more atrocious?