Am I on the right path to losing 50% of my body fat?

RaveJ1
RaveJ1 Posts: 8 Member
edited November 2024 in Health and Weight Loss
I decided that I really need to get my *kitten* together. I took a food allergy test with labcorp to get a better idea of what I'm starting with and holy *kitten*... my test came back with a lot more than i was expecting : egg white, egg yolk, cow milk, almonds, chicken, beef, lamb, pork, safflower, black pepper, bakers yeast, brewers yeast, green bean, lima bean, and mustard. And my insulin levels were twice as much as they should be. A nutritionist recommended that I go on a LCHF (a little over 100g of fat and protein)(below 30g carb) 1300 calorie meal plan. I lift weights 2x a week and I cycle 3x a week.

I'm having an extremely hard time hitting those numbers with the food the test is allowing me to eat (seafood, veggies, and... more seafood).

I've been following the plan and working out, and I have NO ENERGY. Im dragging myself through the workouts. And I'm not losing weight. I went from 36 BMI to 31 BMI the first week of this plan. Then Ive been very slowly making my way back to 33 BMI. I've been doing it for about 6 weeks. My goal was to get to 18-20 body fat by February 2016.

1. Are those the right macros I should be following?

2. Should I ignore the food allergy test and just do LCHF until i get to my desired size, and then focus on my food allergies?

3. Am i anywhere near following the right plan?

Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
CURRENT: 5'4. 177lb. 33 BMI.

*I wouldn't look at my food diary, its very inaccurate. Ive mainly been using it for pre logging and learning the macros of certain foods.
*The week of August 10th is basically what I've been eating everyday.

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  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,446 Member
    I don't know what labcorp is - is that a place that just does tests? Have all those foods presented an actual problem for you? Did you talk to a doctor to review the results?

    I don't know much about allergies, other than, they can come real quick and leave just as fast. My brother was fine with bananas one week (and most of his life) and in the emergency room the next week, because his throat swelled up. I also know people who'd thought they had allergies, and were accidentally exposed to that allergen, and were fine. Some people say you can get used to things after a while. Basically, I am no help, and you need to talk to a doctor about this.

    How many actual pounds did you lose per week, that sounds fast to me.
  • RaveJ1
    RaveJ1 Posts: 8 Member
    I'm a member at lifetime fitness and the nutritionist recommended that I get a food allergy test done. The company that does the tests it called LabCorp. You go there, they draw blood, and sent the results back to the gym.

    The only thing one the list that I know really bothers me is dairy. Which is why I was so shocked when I was told about the results.

    That first week, when my body fat dropped, I only lost about 2 lbs. I think it was all water weight.
  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,446 Member
    That sounds shady to me.

    I think I'd run the allergy stuff by a doctor and otherwise just eat the food you know, from your body telling you, that you're ok with. If you feel tingling or weirdness, stop eating that food and see someone. Cut out the dairy if it bugs you. Their samples might not have been perfect. Or even yours.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    tomatoey wrote: »
    That sounds shady to me.

    I think I'd run the allergy stuff by a doctor and otherwise just eat the food you know, from your body telling you, that you're ok with. If you feel tingling or weirdness, stop eating that food and see someone. Cut out the dairy if it bugs you. Their samples might not have been perfect. Or even yours.

    Yeah it does sound a bit off... I'd go to a regular GP and get another allergy test done. If the foods on the list that they said you had an allergy to don't bother you, then I would wait and get a second opinion. This list restricts your foods a whole lot.

  • middlehaitch
    middlehaitch Posts: 8,488 Member
    Go see your doctor and get a referral to a registered dietitian.

    You are eating too little for your height weight and exercise regime.
    ( as an older petite woman I would be tired, worn out, and losing a .5 lb a week on your diet)

    Also, is it a food allergy or sensitivity?
    Have you ever had bloating, hives, GI problems, or throat swelling while eating these foods?
    What qualifications does the nutritionist have?

    Like @tomatoey says - it sounds a little shady, and to me a little unsafe long term.

    Cheers, h.
  • blkandwhite77
    blkandwhite77 Posts: 281 Member
    Lapcorp is a medical lab here on the west coast. Those allergy tests to me are totally inaccurate. I've had friends freak out because their kids showed positive for almost every allergy known to man but they have only ever reacted to one thing. Not to mention all the kids popped positive for all the same identical 20 something allergies. Well isn't that a coinkidink Personally I'd take the results with a grain of salt. Even is they say you have an "allergy" to salt.
  • kyrannosaurus
    kyrannosaurus Posts: 350 Member
    I suspect this lab is just preaching some sort of bogus science.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    RaveJ1 wrote: »
    I'm a member at lifetime fitness and the nutritionist recommended that I get a food allergy test done. The company that does the tests it called LabCorp. You go there, they draw blood, and sent the results back to the gym.

    The only thing one the list that I know really bothers me is dairy. Which is why I was so shocked when I was told about the results.

    That first week, when my body fat dropped, I only lost about 2 lbs. I think it was all water weight.

    That's an odd allergy test it sounds like they are possibly doing Specific IgE which can pick up sensitivities but would be wrong to term it an allergy in over a third where the elevated IgE is harmless. Have you ever experienced issues ingesting any of those foods? If not that test is worthless


    Please go to your doctor and arrange proper allergen testing ...
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    edited October 2015
    RaveJ1 wrote: »

    I've been following the plan and working out, and I have NO ENERGY. Im dragging myself through the workouts. And I'm not losing weight. I went from 36 BMI to 31 BMI the first week of this plan. Then Ive been very slowly making my way back to 33 BMI. I've been doing it for about 6 weeks. My goal was to get to 18-20 body fat by February 2016.

    1. Are those the right macros I should be following?

    2. Should I ignore the food allergy test and just do LCHF until i get to my desired size, and then focus on my food allergies?

    3. Am i anywhere near following the right plan?


    CURRENT: 5'4. 177lb. 33 BMI.

    A nutritionist recommended that I go on a LCHF (a little over 100g of fat and protein)(below 30g carb) 1300 calorie meal plan. I lift weights 2x a week and I cycle 3x a week.

    1) your goal is too high -
    - what is your current BF that you want to get to potentially under fat for a woman in 4 months
    - How are you measuring your BF?
    -
    2) that plan is ridiculous IMO ...do you feel low carb is the appropriate method for you? A way you can stick to for life. It's not necessary for weight loss unless you want to do that

    3) you are under eating and your macro split is not appropriate IMO

    4) ignore your allergy testing, see your doctor, fire the nutritionist


  • LKArgh
    LKArgh Posts: 5,178 Member
    RaveJ1 wrote: »
    I'm a member at lifetime fitness and the nutritionist recommended that I get a food allergy test done. The company that does the tests it called LabCorp. You go there, they draw blood, and sent the results back to the gym.

    The only thing one the list that I know really bothers me is dairy. Which is why I was so shocked when I was told about the results.

    That first week, when my body fat dropped, I only lost about 2 lbs. I think it was all water weight.

    It looks to me like you have been a scam victim, no way to say it in a nicer way.
    I would suggest you cut your losses, talk to a real dr (because having a positive allergy test is meaningless if in real life there are no allergies, and there is something like a 50% chance of error in some tests - yes, that big) and see a dietitian, if you cannot figure out how to get on a realistic plan on your own.
    But whatever advice you have been given so far by these people, the safest course of action is to ignore it.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    I would
    • Log your stats into MFP
    • Set to lose between 1 and 2lbs per week
    • Eat those calories by weighing and logging everything accurately and with care
    • Move more, walk places rather than drive where possible
    • Log my cycling as exercise, eat half those calories from MFP database too
    • Up my weights to 3x a week, make sure I'm following a decent progressive compound weight lifting plan stronglifts5x5 is good for beginners
    • Make sure I'm getting at least 0.65g protein and 0.35g fat per lb bodyweight (minimums)
    • Eat generally healthy wide range of lean meats, proteins, dairy, vegetables, not worry about carbs and make sure I'm eating food I love for sustainability
  • Duchy82
    Duchy82 Posts: 560 Member
    In theory if you were allergic to all those foods you would feel better not eating them, I get the impression you are feeling worse so I would start reintroducing them one by one if you want to be on the safe side or just start eating them again but the one by one method could reveal any true allergies whereas if you reintroduce all those foods at once an get a reaction you would never know which food it was.

    I personally wouldn't put too much faith in those results even the gp test can sometimes get it wrong(I'm not supposed to be allergic to bunny rabbits according to the bloodtest my gp had done the hives and red itchy eyes I develop by just being in the room with one would suggest otherwise). If you are showing signs of insulin resistance then LCHF is ideal but again I would confirm that with your gp.

    Are you eating back some of your exercise calories? If not it might be worth doing because if you have no energy i would think 1300kcal isn't enough food for you if you are even hitting that on such a restricted diet.
  • mlinci
    mlinci Posts: 402 Member
    What kind of allergy test was it, OP? There is a lot of bogus allergy testing out there. For example, "testing" that involves checking if your muscles twitch to certain food items, I think they refer to it as kinesiology allergy testing, is completely bogus and has no basis in science.
  • RaveJ1
    RaveJ1 Posts: 8 Member
    @middlehaitch

    It was a food allergy test. The only symptom that I've had is bloating after eating some of these foods (the proteins - eggs and meat). I told the nutritionist this and I was given an HCL enzyme (helps with digesting proteins and fats), and that did help.

  • RaveJ1
    RaveJ1 Posts: 8 Member
    @rabbitjb

    1. The trainers at my gym are measuring my BMI.
    2. Ive never tried any other method, I would love to not have to be low carb. I just want to get to my goal weight as soon as possible.

  • RaveJ1
    RaveJ1 Posts: 8 Member
    @mlinci

    I had blood drawn. There were about 12 tubes of blood that was taken.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    I think you're a little confused

    Your BMI is a simple equation of height vs weight, there are lots of online calculators...it's a population measure that says the most healthy range with the fewest health risks is between 18.5 and 25

    Your BF is body fat and is a percentage and very different ...scales don't measure it, though seem to. Calipers in the wrong hands can be wrong ..the best way is a dexa scan or bodypod

    You can't drop 5 points on either scale in a week

    You shouldn't have a target of 18% BF

    I'm confused

  • RaveJ1
    RaveJ1 Posts: 8 Member
    @rabbitjb

    http://www.inbody.com/eng/product/InBody570.aspx

    this is the scale the gym uses.

    I'm aware that they are two different things.

    Why shouldn't I have a target of 18% body fat?
  • soapsandropes
    soapsandropes Posts: 269 Member
    There is nothing inherently wrong with the lab tests, the issue is the interpretation by the gym nutritionist. If you are serious about this have a doctor or a registered dietitian work with you on this. The term Nutritionist doesn't mean anything. If you are eating 1300 and working out you are likely eating too few calories.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    edited October 2015
    RaveJ1 wrote: »
    @rabbitjb

    http://www.inbody.com/eng/product/InBody570.aspx

    this is the scale the gym uses.

    I'm aware that they are two different things.

    Why shouldn't I have a target of 18% body fat?

    That's a bio Impedence scale and they are famous for being inaccurate in giving you an absolute reading ...what they can do is track progress over time, but we are talking months not week to week

    It is impossible to drop 5% body fat in a week...but it is possible that the readings are off for many factors not least calibrations dirt on soles of feet, hydration etc

    18% BF for a woman is very lean and also it depends on your age...I'm at 23% and in the lean category for my age

    I like this chart for the definition in the lower ranges but it has been pointed out that the WHO doesn't make any recommendation for obesity levels defined by body fat

    0914WHObodyfat.jpg


  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    edited October 2015
    This might be easier to understand

    jackson-and-pollock-body-fat-percentage-chart.jpg
  • LKArgh
    LKArgh Posts: 5,178 Member
    If you are concerned about allergies, talk to your dr. The gym nutritionist is not qualified to analyse the results, and if you do have an allergy, the nutritionist cannot help you.
    If you feel you have indigestion issues, talk to your dr. Do not take supplements or "medication" the gym nutritionist "prescribed". At best, you are wasting your money, at worst you are taking unnecessary risks with your health.
    The scale, any scale, does not measure bodyfat. Whatever numbers you are given, you can just ignore them, they are meaningless. 18% for a woman means an athlete's body. It is not a realistic goal for someone who is just starting a weight loss journey, and it si not a realistic goal even for many women who are in great shape. It might become a goal later, but it makes no sense to start there. You cannot reach this goal in a few months. Think, many years, serious training.
    BMI, you can calculate it yourself very easily: http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmicalc.htm
    You did not lower your bmi by several points in a few weeks. It is nto possible. Not even if youwere not eating at all.
    Your current BMI based on your weight and height is 30. You are just leaving the obese category. Your first goal should be a healthy BMI, so for you, losing about 30 lbs. This will take time, like half to one year. When you get there, you will be nowhere close to a 18% body fat. Which is fine, very few women are.
    For your BMI to be 36, you should have been 210 lbs. You did not lose 40 lbs in a week.
    For your BMI to become 33, you should gain around 20 lbs from where you are now. So, again this goal makes no sense.

    In brief: you are confused. And whoever is helping you lose weight, is making a profit out of your confusion.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,207 Member
    Labcorp was exposed a while back getting kickbacks from Aetna and other health services. I believe they over exaggerate their results. Everyone has a tolerance to everything out there. Some less than others which would make it an "allergy" for them.
    Go do a Registered Dietician to discuss a reasonable diet plan.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

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  • RaveJ1
    RaveJ1 Posts: 8 Member
    @aggelikik
    @rabbitjb

    Im 20 years old. I ran track for 3 years in high school. I was very small when I started track. I was around 115-120. I started putting on weight and muscle for track and my highest weight during track was 135. Senior year my knees started bothering me a lot, the running was just becoming too much. I didn't join the team again for my senior year. When I graduated I was about 145lbs. A few months later when I turned 18 I got the gym membership. This is when I first got in contact with a nutritionist at the gym (lifetime) and she put me on a low carb 1200 calorie plan. I managed to get back to 130lbs in about 2 months. Then I started college and cut back on working out and made my way back to about 155-157lbs. I wasn't eating bad. I don't like sugary foods. I was mainly just eating more carbs (oatmeal, rice, bagel). So for the last two years, I've been gaining about 15-20lbs a year. And this is doing low carb, on and off.

    I starting gaining weight when I started trying to lose weight. (if that makes sense). When I started working with the gym, I started packing on the pounds.
  • RaveJ1
    RaveJ1 Posts: 8 Member
    @rabbitjb
    at my best weight, I was definitely in the ideal body fat range. I may have been under a bit. I had defined abs and exposed veins in my arms. But I was also working out about 6 days a week (lots of cardio), and high carb.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    RaveJ1 wrote: »
    @aggelikik
    @rabbitjb

    Im 20 years old. I ran track for 3 years in high school. I was very small when I started track. I was around 115-120. I started putting on weight and muscle for track and my highest weight during track was 135. Senior year my knees started bothering me a lot, the running was just becoming too much. I didn't join the team again for my senior year. When I graduated I was about 145lbs. A few months later when I turned 18 I got the gym membership. This is when I first got in contact with a nutritionist at the gym (lifetime) and she put me on a low carb 1200 calorie plan. I managed to get back to 130lbs in about 2 months. Then I started college and cut back on working out and made my way back to about 155-157lbs. I wasn't eating bad. I don't like sugary foods. I was mainly just eating more carbs (oatmeal, rice, bagel). So for the last two years, I've been gaining about 15-20lbs a year. And this is doing low carb, on and off.

    I starting gaining weight when I started trying to lose weight. (if that makes sense). When I started working with the gym, I started packing on the pounds.

    OK

    Well it doesn't really matter, what matters is that you educate yourself and follow an eating plan that you can stick to for life

    Do you understand BMI and BF from what we've posted?

    Really weight loss is as simple as calories in < calories out

    Health and nutrition counts as does exercise

    If low carb is what you want to do to achieve your calorie defecit that's fine...doesn't suit me, I like all da foodz

    Remember we have nothing invested in keeping you fat, unlike your "nutritionist" (who you seriously need to sack IMHO)

    I've posted what I would do up thread

    Good luck

    Feel free to ask specific questions... there's a lot of knowledgeable and successful folk here
  • LKArgh
    LKArgh Posts: 5,178 Member

    Low carb is not a magic solution. If it helps you keep your calories low, awesome. If not, you can absolutely gain on a low carb diet.
    If you have been following the nutritionist's advice and ended up gaining , it is even more reason to forget anything this person have ever told you and run away.
    If you think you have a health issue, talk to a dr.
    If you think you are eating a low calorie diet (regardless of quality) and are gaining, talk to a dr.
    Otherwise, try using this app and trusting it: Set current weight and height, set a realistic weight loss goal of no more than 1 lb per week, and eat the calories MFP tells you to eat, logging everything you eat, using a food scale.
  • MollyJE19
    MollyJE19 Posts: 67 Member
    I had those tests done by that company many years ago. I believe the test is for "sensitivities", rather than true allergies. I was "sensitive" to so many things that I didn't have much left to eat. After a few months I couldn't take it anymore and went back to eating most of those things. I've never had a reaction other than some minor stomach issues if I consume very large amounts of dairy.
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