(women) do you think we really burn more calories on our periods?

i heard this might be a myth and was "busted" a couple times by some credible sources. it is definitely not true that you burn an extra 500 calories a day...even pregnant women only need a couple hundred more. so i heard perhaps it is 500 per cycle, in which case hooray! but this is wishful thinking and i just wanted some opinions. i had a uh...rough week because of a strange binge day right before my period, i totally forgot i was getting it. i probably overate by 1000, but wanted to know if the 500 could be happily subtracted. its been a few days since then and my dieting is actually improving greatly, but i wanted to know because i am curious about the 500 cal thing.
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  • CoffeeNCardio
    CoffeeNCardio Posts: 1,847 Member
    edited November 2015
    Well, I'm not gonna lie, it doesn't sound like good science. I wouldn't change my caloric intake for it, that's for sure. The thing I keep coming back to thinking about this is that women's bodies change THROUGHOUT the month. The period gets all the attention, but every day your body is doing something related to the processes that make procreation possible. There's a release of hormones for ovulation, pheromones for attractiveness purposes, the building of the uterine lining all month.... and so on and more detailed. I think the take away would be that whatever amount of calories the fluctuations of a monthly cycle are, they are almost certainly not significant enough to base your caloric intake off of.
  • LKArgh
    LKArgh Posts: 5,178 Member
    No. We burn sligtly more calories during ovulation.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    edited November 2015
    I've never even heard the myth

    I'm pretty sure that there are variants in our TDEE due to our hormones but I'm equally sure that they are not adequate to factor into the equation and that continuing with your average TDEE is the only way to go

    This is a case of wishful thinking

    And 1000 calories ...just log it and move on ...maybe it's set you back a couple of days but meh
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  • Extra calorie burn or not, I know that I am extra hungry 3 days or so out of the month, typically the days just before. I eat at a smaller deficit on those days. It's not cravings. I'm not eating chocolate and bonbons - just an extra 200-300 calories of whatever I would normally be eating. So, that week, my deficit is reduced by 600-900 calories. I haven't had any issues with the scale because of it.
  • Ashtoretet
    Ashtoretet Posts: 378 Member
    Well, I did have my period for about 5 months straight because of birth control and did find it slightly easier to lose weight than I do now that I'm on a different birth control. But I think it has more to do with it being easier to lose the heavier you are, since you don't have to restrict as much to lose.
  • scolaris
    scolaris Posts: 2,145 Member
    I have read that a woman's bmr increases by about 9% during the entire luteal phase leading up to their period. This commonly manifests as hunger only a few days right before menstruation actually commences. I don't see the harm in eating & logging a little more than usual if that's something you experience.
  • misskarne
    misskarne Posts: 1,765 Member
    Eh, I don't believe it. I feel like a slug the whole time. I can't even exercise because it makes the cramps worse, I crave salt like crazy...yeah, my scale fluctuations at that time are REALLY fun...
  • amberlyda1
    amberlyda1 Posts: 154 Member
    i dont know but i just ate beef jerky and chocolate for 3 days :)
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    edited November 2015
    If you have a weight loss goal just set to maintenance for a few days and work out how to manage the hunger / cravings

    But you don't get to eat more cos of majoring in the minors and looking for scientific validation

    It's marginal and averages out

    Sorry
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    I've heard it's a bit more, maybe 300 more calories. Let's say that it doesn't usually make up for how much hungrier I get.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    People hearing all this stuff

    Hit google scholar ..find the research ...post it so we can all get up to date and discuss

    I've heard that waist trainers, green tea and juice detox work ..but have been able to completely discount them thanks to real information
  • jayjay_90
    jayjay_90 Posts: 83 Member
    Based of my own personal experience I don't think so. What I have noticed is that I might eat a little more in the week before my period, but then usually one or two days during it I'm actually not very hungry at all, so it ends up balancing out and I stay on track.
  • MommersRL
    MommersRL Posts: 3 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    People hearing all this stuff

    Hit google scholar ..find the research ...post it so we can all get up to date and discuss

    Lyle McDonald's review of the research available.
    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/impact-of-the-menstrual-cycle-on-determinants-of-energy-intake-reseach-review.html/

    There does look to be a bit of an increase in calorie burn, but it can easily be wiped by acting on the cravings that come along with it.
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    People hearing all this stuff

    Hit google scholar ..find the research ...post it so we can all get up to date and discuss

    I've heard that waist trainers, green tea and juice detox work ..but have been able to completely discount them thanks to real information

    This. Holy cow people. Read up. Don't just sit around wondering. I keep these in my profile. There's more than you asked about OP but it's good reading.


    Menstrual cycle & fitness & other lady stuff
    * http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/impact-of-the-menstrual-cycle-on-determinants-of-energy-intake-reseach-review.html/
    * http://breakingmuscle.com/womens-fitness/what-really-causes-irregular-menstrual-cycles-in-female-athletes
    * http://www.optimumh.co.uk/influence-of-menstrual-cycle-on-strength-training-and-timing/
    * https://www.t-nation.com/training/hormone-cycle-and-female-lifters
    * http://rebellion.nerdfitness.com/index.php?/topic/69538-the-pelvis-abs-and-hormones-walk-into-a-gym/
    * http://www.strengtheory.com/gender-differences-in-training-and-diet/#axzz3kRAhKHG5
  • khakasa
    khakasa Posts: 6 Member
    jemhh wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    People hearing all this stuff

    Hit google scholar ..find the research ...post it so we can all get up to date and discuss

    I've heard that waist trainers, green tea and juice detox work ..but have been able to completely discount them thanks to real information

    This. Holy cow people. Read up. Don't just sit around wondering. I keep these in my profile. There's more than you asked about OP but it's good reading.


    Menstrual cycle & fitness & other lady stuff
    * http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/impact-of-the-menstrual-cycle-on-determinants-of-energy-intake-reseach-review.html/
    * http://breakingmuscle.com/womens-fitness/what-really-causes-irregular-menstrual-cycles-in-female-athletes
    * http://www.optimumh.co.uk/influence-of-menstrual-cycle-on-strength-training-and-timing/
    * https://www.t-nation.com/training/hormone-cycle-and-female-lifters
    * http://rebellion.nerdfitness.com/index.php?/topic/69538-the-pelvis-abs-and-hormones-walk-into-a-gym/
    * http://www.strengtheory.com/gender-differences-in-training-and-diet/#axzz3kRAhKHG5

    This is useful. Thanks for sharing.
  • jemhh wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    People hearing all this stuff

    Hit google scholar ..find the research ...post it so we can all get up to date and discuss

    I've heard that waist trainers, green tea and juice detox work ..but have been able to completely discount them thanks to real information

    This. Holy cow people. Read up. Don't just sit around wondering. I keep these in my profile. There's more than you asked about OP but it's good reading.


    Menstrual cycle & fitness & other lady stuff
    * http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/impact-of-the-menstrual-cycle-on-determinants-of-energy-intake-reseach-review.html/
    * http://breakingmuscle.com/womens-fitness/what-really-causes-irregular-menstrual-cycles-in-female-athletes
    * http://www.optimumh.co.uk/influence-of-menstrual-cycle-on-strength-training-and-timing/
    * https://www.t-nation.com/training/hormone-cycle-and-female-lifters
    * http://rebellion.nerdfitness.com/index.php?/topic/69538-the-pelvis-abs-and-hormones-walk-into-a-gym/
    * http://www.strengtheory.com/gender-differences-in-training-and-diet/#axzz3kRAhKHG5

    This is great. I get so sick of seeing this on here (my period makes me eat all the food because of 'hormones'). What hormones??? Because progesterone doesn't effect appetite (and I say that as someone who had to have progesterone shots in the *kitten* every day for a month). Leptin and some others do but men have those too. 'Hormones' is not a blanket excuse for stuffing your face.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    I've never even heard the myth

    I'm pretty sure that there are variants in our TDEE due to our hormones but I'm equally sure that they are not adequate to factor into the equation and that continuing with your average TDEE is the only way to go

    This is a case of wishful thinking

    And 1000 calories ...just log it and move on ...maybe it's set you back a couple of days but meh

    All of this
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    edited November 2015
    jemhh wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    People hearing all this stuff

    Hit google scholar ..find the research ...post it so we can all get up to date and discuss

    I've heard that waist trainers, green tea and juice detox work ..but have been able to completely discount them thanks to real information

    This. Holy cow people. Read up. Don't just sit around wondering. I keep these in my profile. There's more than you asked about OP but it's good reading.


    Menstrual cycle & fitness & other lady stuff
    * http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/impact-of-the-menstrual-cycle-on-determinants-of-energy-intake-reseach-review.html/
    * http://breakingmuscle.com/womens-fitness/what-really-causes-irregular-menstrual-cycles-in-female-athletes
    * http://www.optimumh.co.uk/influence-of-menstrual-cycle-on-strength-training-and-timing/
    * https://www.t-nation.com/training/hormone-cycle-and-female-lifters
    * http://rebellion.nerdfitness.com/index.php?/topic/69538-the-pelvis-abs-and-hormones-walk-into-a-gym/
    * http://www.strengtheory.com/gender-differences-in-training-and-diet/#axzz3kRAhKHG5

    This is great. I get so sick of seeing this on here (my period makes me eat all the food because of 'hormones'). What hormones??? Because progesterone doesn't effect appetite (and I say that as someone who had to have progesterone shots in the *kitten* every day for a month). Leptin and some others do but men have those too. 'Hormones' is not a blanket excuse for stuffing your face.

    So explain to me why I'm so hungry the week before my period. If hormones don't affect appetite, I'm very curious about why it happens.

    Also I can find just as many articles on Google that explain that women can burn up to 15% more calories during PMS.

    So yeah. Who knows. I just know I get hungrier, I don't know if I burn more calories or not.

    I know that I've been told that it's psychological but it's hilarious that it just doesn't happen when my cycle is messed up and TOM is late (like this month - love it). So yeah... I blame hormones.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    edited November 2015
    Francl27 wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    People hearing all this stuff

    Hit google scholar ..find the research ...post it so we can all get up to date and discuss

    I've heard that waist trainers, green tea and juice detox work ..but have been able to completely discount them thanks to real information

    This. Holy cow people. Read up. Don't just sit around wondering. I keep these in my profile. There's more than you asked about OP but it's good reading.


    Menstrual cycle & fitness & other lady stuff
    * http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/impact-of-the-menstrual-cycle-on-determinants-of-energy-intake-reseach-review.html/
    * http://breakingmuscle.com/womens-fitness/what-really-causes-irregular-menstrual-cycles-in-female-athletes
    * http://www.optimumh.co.uk/influence-of-menstrual-cycle-on-strength-training-and-timing/
    * https://www.t-nation.com/training/hormone-cycle-and-female-lifters
    * http://rebellion.nerdfitness.com/index.php?/topic/69538-the-pelvis-abs-and-hormones-walk-into-a-gym/
    * http://www.strengtheory.com/gender-differences-in-training-and-diet/#axzz3kRAhKHG5

    This is great. I get so sick of seeing this on here (my period makes me eat all the food because of 'hormones'). What hormones??? Because progesterone doesn't effect appetite (and I say that as someone who had to have progesterone shots in the *kitten* every day for a month). Leptin and some others do but men have those too. 'Hormones' is not a blanket excuse for stuffing your face.

    So explain to me why I'm so hungry the week before my period. If hormones don't affect appetite, I'm very curious about why it happens.

    Also I can find just as many articles on Google that explain that women can burn up to 15% more calories during PMS.

    So yeah. Who knows. I just know I get hungrier, I don't know if I burn more calories or not.

    YESS! You, me, and most of the rest of us. For me it was the two or three days before. Just as progesterone levels DROPPED.
    That said: (AND TMI ALERT) I'm no longer ovulating. And therefore no longer having progesterone surges and drops, and these days, no hunger and cravings before any eventual flow (that happens randomly these days).
  • mrsnazario1219
    mrsnazario1219 Posts: 173 Member
    edited November 2015
    Francl27 wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    People hearing all this stuff

    Hit google scholar ..find the research ...post it so we can all get up to date and discuss

    I've heard that waist trainers, green tea and juice detox work ..but have been able to completely discount them thanks to real information

    This. Holy cow people. Read up. Don't just sit around wondering. I keep these in my profile. There's more than you asked about OP but it's good reading.


    Menstrual cycle & fitness & other lady stuff
    * http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/impact-of-the-menstrual-cycle-on-determinants-of-energy-intake-reseach-review.html/
    * http://breakingmuscle.com/womens-fitness/what-really-causes-irregular-menstrual-cycles-in-female-athletes
    * http://www.optimumh.co.uk/influence-of-menstrual-cycle-on-strength-training-and-timing/
    * https://www.t-nation.com/training/hormone-cycle-and-female-lifters
    * http://rebellion.nerdfitness.com/index.php?/topic/69538-the-pelvis-abs-and-hormones-walk-into-a-gym/
    * http://www.strengtheory.com/gender-differences-in-training-and-diet/#axzz3kRAhKHG5

    This is great. I get so sick of seeing this on here (my period makes me eat all the food because of 'hormones'). What hormones??? Because progesterone doesn't effect appetite (and I say that as someone who had to have progesterone shots in the *kitten* every day for a month). Leptin and some others do but men have those too. 'Hormones' is not a blanket excuse for stuffing your face.

    So explain to me why I'm so hungry the week before my period. If hormones don't affect appetite, I'm very curious about why it happens.

    Also I can find just as many articles on Google that explain that women can burn up to 15% more calories during PMS.

    So yeah. Who knows. I just know I get hungrier, I don't know if I burn more calories or not.

    YESS! You, me, and most of the rest of us. For me it was the two or three days before. Just as progesterone levels DROPPED.
    That said: (AND TMI ALERT) I'm no longer ovulating. And therefore no longer having progesterone surges and drops, and these days, no hunger and cravings before any eventual flow (that happens randomly these days).

    +1

    I'm starving a few days before my period. I will eat at maintenance at least one of those days. But during i can barely eat 1200cals. I keep hearing "it's all in your head. Excuse to binge" but I don't want to binge. I want to eat healthy and stay on track. But my body is telling me I'm STARVING GIVE ME MORE even after just eating. But again during my period my body is telling me I HATE FOOD STOP FEEDING ME. I don't get it.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    Francl27 wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    People hearing all this stuff

    Hit google scholar ..find the research ...post it so we can all get up to date and discuss

    I've heard that waist trainers, green tea and juice detox work ..but have been able to completely discount them thanks to real information

    This. Holy cow people. Read up. Don't just sit around wondering. I keep these in my profile. There's more than you asked about OP but it's good reading.


    Menstrual cycle & fitness & other lady stuff
    * http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/impact-of-the-menstrual-cycle-on-determinants-of-energy-intake-reseach-review.html/
    * http://breakingmuscle.com/womens-fitness/what-really-causes-irregular-menstrual-cycles-in-female-athletes
    * http://www.optimumh.co.uk/influence-of-menstrual-cycle-on-strength-training-and-timing/
    * https://www.t-nation.com/training/hormone-cycle-and-female-lifters
    * http://rebellion.nerdfitness.com/index.php?/topic/69538-the-pelvis-abs-and-hormones-walk-into-a-gym/
    * http://www.strengtheory.com/gender-differences-in-training-and-diet/#axzz3kRAhKHG5

    This is great. I get so sick of seeing this on here (my period makes me eat all the food because of 'hormones'). What hormones??? Because progesterone doesn't effect appetite (and I say that as someone who had to have progesterone shots in the *kitten* every day for a month). Leptin and some others do but men have those too. 'Hormones' is not a blanket excuse for stuffing your face.

    So explain to me why I'm so hungry the week before my period. If hormones don't affect appetite, I'm very curious about why it happens.

    Also I can find just as many articles on Google that explain that women can burn up to 15% more calories during PMS.

    So yeah. Who knows. I just know I get hungrier, I don't know if I burn more calories or not.

    YESS! You, me, and most of the rest of us. For me it was the two or three days before. Just as progesterone levels DROPPED.
    That said: (AND TMI ALERT) I'm no longer ovulating. And therefore no longer having progesterone surges and drops, and these days, no hunger and cravings before any eventual flow (that happens randomly these days).

    +1

    I'm starving a few days before my period. I will eat at maintenance at least one of those days. But during i can barely eat 1200cals. I keep hearing "it's all in your head. Excuse to binge" but I don't want to binge. I want to eat healthy and stay on track. But my body is telling me I'm STARVING GIVE ME MORE even after just eating. But again during my period my body is telling me I HATE FOOD STOP FEEDING ME. I don't get it.

    YES. I never really worried about the starving days, because I knew they would immediately be followed by a few days where food has NO appeal.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    Also: many women find their "tolerance" to alcohol changes just before, and then during menstruation.
  • CoffeeNCardio
    CoffeeNCardio Posts: 1,847 Member
    Francl27 wrote: »
    jemhh wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    People hearing all this stuff

    Hit google scholar ..find the research ...post it so we can all get up to date and discuss

    I've heard that waist trainers, green tea and juice detox work ..but have been able to completely discount them thanks to real information

    This. Holy cow people. Read up. Don't just sit around wondering. I keep these in my profile. There's more than you asked about OP but it's good reading.


    Menstrual cycle & fitness & other lady stuff
    * http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/impact-of-the-menstrual-cycle-on-determinants-of-energy-intake-reseach-review.html/
    * http://breakingmuscle.com/womens-fitness/what-really-causes-irregular-menstrual-cycles-in-female-athletes
    * http://www.optimumh.co.uk/influence-of-menstrual-cycle-on-strength-training-and-timing/
    * https://www.t-nation.com/training/hormone-cycle-and-female-lifters
    * http://rebellion.nerdfitness.com/index.php?/topic/69538-the-pelvis-abs-and-hormones-walk-into-a-gym/
    * http://www.strengtheory.com/gender-differences-in-training-and-diet/#axzz3kRAhKHG5

    This is great. I get so sick of seeing this on here (my period makes me eat all the food because of 'hormones'). What hormones??? Because progesterone doesn't effect appetite (and I say that as someone who had to have progesterone shots in the *kitten* every day for a month). Leptin and some others do but men have those too. 'Hormones' is not a blanket excuse for stuffing your face.

    So explain to me why I'm so hungry the week before my period. If hormones don't affect appetite, I'm very curious about why it happens.

    Also I can find just as many articles on Google that explain that women can burn up to 15% more calories during PMS.

    So yeah. Who knows. I just know I get hungrier, I don't know if I burn more calories or not.

    YESS! You, me, and most of the rest of us. For me it was the two or three days before. Just as progesterone levels DROPPED.
    That said: (AND TMI ALERT) I'm no longer ovulating. And therefore no longer having progesterone surges and drops, and these days, no hunger and cravings before any eventual flow (that happens randomly these days).

    +1

    I'm starving a few days before my period. I will eat at maintenance at least one of those days. But during i can barely eat 1200cals. I keep hearing "it's all in your head. Excuse to binge" but I don't want to binge. I want to eat healthy and stay on track. But my body is telling me I'm STARVING GIVE ME MORE even after just eating. But again during my period my body is telling me I HATE FOOD STOP FEEDING ME. I don't get it.

    YES. I never really worried about the starving days, because I knew they would immediately be followed by a few days where food has NO appeal.

    Amen, and ime, the "no food, I hate food, kill it with fire" days outnumber the "If I don't eat I will surely die and dishonor all the former generations of my family" days. So it's easier to get through bearing that in mind:)
  • Hell_Flower
    Hell_Flower Posts: 348 Member
    Also: many women find their "tolerance" to alcohol changes just before, and then during menstruation.

    God yea. This this.

    One more than one occasion 2 glasses of chardonnay has sent me bat-s h * t crazy and given me a 3 day hangover. Spirits have little to no effect on me during T.O.M but white wine sends me absolutely raging drunk.
  • Soopatt
    Soopatt Posts: 563 Member
    edited November 2015
    I am hungrier on some days more than others, but nothing so bad that I can't control my own hand from feeding my face. I don't like the idea that I am not able to control myself in any situation - I find that disempowering. I choose when I eat. Sometimes I have more temptations, but ultimately it is up to me.

    I have to shift around my calories on those days for sure and if I want loads of sugar I eat it, but that is something I am prepared to do any day of the month to stay within calories.

    If there is an extra calorie burn, it is absorbed by my almost total inactivity on those days (terribly debilitating cramps). If I eat more, I think it is because I feel sorry for myself because I am in pain and don't want to deny myself anything. That is a mental battle.

    Men get irritated by our constant griping and excusing ourselves over our hormones. I can see why. We would not accept a man using "hormones" as the reason he gets a girlfriend on the side and cheats on us. Even though we recognize how strong those drives are, we expect him to resist them. I see this as the same sort of thing.

  • I honestly tend to consider myself at sedentary/bmr during my period unless I have to be out and about that day. I certainly don't think I'd burn more curled up on the couch with a hot water bottle.
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    Soopatt wrote: »
    I am hungrier on some days more than others, but nothing so bad that I can't control my own hand from feeding my face. I don't like the idea that I am not able to control myself in any situation - I find that disempowering. I choose when I eat. Sometimes I have more temptations, but ultimately it is up to me.

    I have to shift around my calories on those days for sure and if I want loads of sugar I eat it, but that is something I am prepared to do any day of the month to stay within calories.

    If there is an extra calorie burn, it is absorbed by my almost total inactivity on those days (terribly debilitating cramps). If I eat more, I think it is because I feel sorry for myself because I am in pain and don't want to deny myself anything. That is a mental battle.

    Men get irritated by our constant griping and excusing ourselves over our hormones. I can see why. We would not accept a man using "hormones" as the reason he gets a girlfriend on the side and cheats on us. Even though we recognize how strong those drives are, we expect him to resist them. I see this as the same sort of thing.

    I knew you would post here. As usual, I'm shaking my head. Just because YOU don't have those hunger issues that some of us DO have, doesn't mean they don't exist... Might be a shock, but you're not the center of the universe and everyone isn't like you.

    Infuriating.

    But again, it only started for me once I got close to my goal, so I'm (not so secretively) hoping that karma will be on my side.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    edited November 2015
    Soopatt wrote: »
    I am hungrier on some days more than others, but nothing so bad that I can't control my own hand from feeding my face. I don't like the idea that I am not able to control myself in any situation - I find that disempowering. I choose when I eat. Sometimes I have more temptations, but ultimately it is up to me.

    I have to shift around my calories on those days for sure and if I want loads of sugar I eat it, but that is something I am prepared to do any day of the month to stay within calories.

    If there is an extra calorie burn, it is absorbed by my almost total inactivity on those days (terribly debilitating cramps). If I eat more, I think it is because I feel sorry for myself because I am in pain and don't want to deny myself anything. That is a mental battle.

    Men get irritated by our constant griping and excusing ourselves over our hormones. I can see why. We would not accept a man using "hormones" as the reason he gets a girlfriend on the side and cheats on us. Even though we recognize how strong those drives are, we expect him to resist them. I see this as the same sort of thing.
    I don't equate a desire to eat more two days a week with marital infidelity.

    And as i said, I don't, generally, worry that I have to resist the urge to eat more because I know it's all part of my NATURAL cycle and in a few days food will hold no appeal.

    Again, mostly all in the past for me, due to menopause. Something else that's NATURAL. That'll be a snap for you, I'm sure, lol. <sarcasm>

    Given your comparison, have you tried denying that you have cramps, and forcing yourself to workout through them? It's mind over matter right? And I assume you never, ever mention them to your husband?

    Back to the actual discussion: the fewer sweets and refined carbs I eat, the fewer carby cravings I had with PMS. In fact, I craved salt after I gave up sweets. My go to was roasted garlic, and later salted, roasted kale.
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    Soopatt wrote: »
    I am hungrier on some days more than others, but nothing so bad that I can't control my own hand from feeding my face. I don't like the idea that I am not able to control myself in any situation - I find that disempowering. I choose when I eat. Sometimes I have more temptations, but ultimately it is up to me.

    I have to shift around my calories on those days for sure and if I want loads of sugar I eat it, but that is something I am prepared to do any day of the month to stay within calories.

    If there is an extra calorie burn, it is absorbed by my almost total inactivity on those days (terribly debilitating cramps). If I eat more, I think it is because I feel sorry for myself because I am in pain and don't want to deny myself anything. That is a mental battle.

    Men get irritated by our constant griping and excusing ourselves over our hormones. I can see why. We would not accept a man using "hormones" as the reason he gets a girlfriend on the side and cheats on us. Even though we recognize how strong those drives are, we expect him to resist them. I see this as the same sort of thing.
    I don't equate a desire to eat more two days a week with marital infidelity.

    And as i said, I don't, generally, worry that I have to resist the urge to eat more because I know it's all part of my NATURAL cycle and in a few days food will hold no appeal.

    Again, mostly all in the past for me, due to menopause. Something else that's NATURAL. That'll be a snap for you, I'm sure, lol. <sarcasm>

    Given your comparison, have you tried denying that you have cramps, and forcing yourself to workout through them? It's mind over matter right? And I assume you never, ever mention them to your husband?

    Back to the actual discussion: the fewer sweets and refined carbs I eat, the fewer carby cravings I had with PMS. In fact, I craved salt after I gave up sweets. My go to was roasted garlic, and later salted, roasted kale.

    I don't crave sweets at all with PMS. I crave bread, lol.