Minniemaud guidelines, Youreatopia site

catt952
catt952 Posts: 190 Member
edited November 26 in Health and Weight Loss
So from my research from youreatopia, a website dedicated to anorexia recovery. the author believes all women under the age of 25 need 3000 calories to be healthy. she thinks restricting calories causes the body to damage its own internal organs. she thinks restriction in any form is unhealthy and hurts the body. whats your thoughts?

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  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    I don't know.... If you want to lose weight then you need to restrict food, in a healthy not extremely low way. I imagine a lot of girls would stack on the weight eating 3,000 calories a day.

    I'm no expert on Anorexia, but i would imagine eating anorexic level calories would pretty much guarantee "the body to damage it's own internal organs"
  • vespiquenn
    vespiquenn Posts: 1,455 Member
    edited November 2015
    It really depends what you're trying to do. Are you trying to gain weight? Then figure out your TDEE and add about 20% to it to get about a pound a week. Either way, every person will have a different TDEE, and even at 5'9" and 150lbs, my TDEE is ~ 2000 if I were to sit and not move all day. So 3000 would be having me gain weight at a pretty rapid rate. Figure out your TDEE and go from there.

    I'm assuming this person means well, but make sure you research credible sources such as peer reviewed studies. Just because someone posts it with good intent doesn't make it true.
  • siluridae
    siluridae Posts: 188 Member
    I'm a short man and I would be colossal in a few months if I ate that much. A woman my height would be rolling right alongside me unless she did some serious exercise.

    Maybe she meant it in the context of gaining weight when someone is dangerously underweight.
    A normal woman maintaining weight, however? No way.
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    If you're recovering, you should be following your doctor's orders. If you aren't recovering and are currently restricting heavily, you should see your doctor and get into recovery.

    If you have no kind of mental illness that has resulted in an eating disorder, you should stay off their site and leave them alone and not start drama about them here, much less direct people to their site.

    They have enough problems.
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    What does your team say?
  • catt952
    catt952 Posts: 190 Member
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    What does your team say?

    I AM NOT ANOREXIC LOL. i follow this blog because i find it interesting. that site is just a blog! I don't have a team, nor have i ever been diagnosed with anorexia. i am close to being overweight!
  • CoffeeNCardio
    CoffeeNCardio Posts: 1,847 Member
    catt952 wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    What does your team say?

    I AM NOT ANOREXIC LOL. i follow this blog because i find it interesting. that site is just a blog! I don't have a team, nor have i ever been diagnosed with anorexia. i am close to being overweight!

    Well, in that case I'd have to say she probably has really good reasons, from a PSYCHOLOGICAL standpoint, why people who have had anorexia shouldn't restrict. After reading over the website a little, I can't find that 3000 calories thing you're talking about, but I think it's important to imagine that this is in the context of people who have disordered eating issues and are trying to recover, possibly JUST starting to recover. So while I'll gladly say that for average jane/joe, restricting calories in order to lose weight is perfectly safe and healthy, and no one number is good for every person calorie-wise, I don't know that we know the full story of why this person is purportedly saying 3000 in the context of anorexia recovery. Perhaps if you provided the text or portion of the text where you saw this, it would be possible to find out the why's and get you a better answer.
  • catt952
    catt952 Posts: 190 Member
    http://www.youreatopia.com/blog/2011/9/14/i-need-how-many-calories.html?rq=calories

    this is a blog entry that discusses caloric needs for the average female and male
  • CoffeeNCardio
    CoffeeNCardio Posts: 1,847 Member
    catt952 wrote: »
    http://www.youreatopia.com/blog/2011/9/14/i-need-how-many-calories.html?rq=calories

    this is a blog entry that discusses caloric needs for the average female and male

    Ah, I see. From what I'm reading here, this person is referring to SPECIFICALLY those people who are in recovery for anorexia or bulimia. It makes sense in that 2500-3000 is high for someone trying to maintain, but she seems to be referring exclusively to those people who have gotten themselves down to an unhealthy weight and need to GAIN to get back to a healthy weight. I see no mention in the article of normal, eating disorder free individuals, so I'm going to assume she's only referring to these numbers in the realm of recovery. She even states

    "But with recovery, you have to provide not only enough energy to replenish fat tissue, but also even more energy is required to reverse pervasive physiological damage."

    So it looks like it's about weight gain, on purpose, or the sake of recovering from an ED.
  • mirrim52
    mirrim52 Posts: 763 Member
    Here are the guidelines for when 2500 calories applies as a minimum daily intake for recovery:

    You are a 25+ year old female between 5’0” and 5’8” (152.4 to 173 cm) and,
    The regular menstrual cycle has stopped and/or,
    You have other symptoms of starvation: feeling the cold, fatigued, foggy headed, hair loss, brittle nails, dull skin and/or,
    Even if you were only underweight/dieted for a very short space of time (a few months), these guidelines apply.

    Here are the guidelines for when 3000 calories applies as a minimum daily intake for recovery:

    You are an under 25 year old female between 5’0” and 5’8” (152.4 to 173 cm) or an over 25 year old male between 5’4” and 6’0” (162.5 and 183 cm) and,
    The regular menstrual cycle has stopped and/or,
    You have other symptoms of starvation: feeling the cold, fatigued, foggy headed, hair loss, brittle nails, dull skin and/or,
    Even if you were only underweight/dieted for a very short space of time (a few months), these guidelines apply.

    This is all in the context of recovering from an eating disorder. Very different from the general population. If someone is recovering, they should be seeing a specialist to assist them through it. This person also cites very few sources and has no qualifications other than doing "intense research" according to the "About" section of her blog.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    catt952 wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    What does your team say?

    I AM NOT ANOREXIC LOL. i follow this blog because i find it interesting. that site is just a blog! I don't have a team, nor have i ever been diagnosed with anorexia. i am close to being overweight!

    Then why are you calling it research in your OP?
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    catt952 wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    What does your team say?

    I AM NOT ANOREXIC LOL. i follow this blog because i find it interesting. that site is just a blog! I don't have a team, nor have i ever been diagnosed with anorexia. i am close to being overweight!

    Then why are you calling it research in your OP?

    Not to mention your other post about Disordered Eating..
  • catt952
    catt952 Posts: 190 Member
    I don't need to explain myself to people who don't care about my health but just want to win an argument. I came here for opinions, advice and rational views. I got what i asked for. Thanks guys :)
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    catt952 wrote: »
    I don't need to explain myself to people who don't care about my health but just want to win an argument. I came here for opinions, advice and rational views. I got what i asked for. Thanks guys :)

    Rational <> doing research on a site designed for anorexics, asking clarification on a site designed for health and getting strung out by the questions as to the nature of your research

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