Type 2 Diabetes
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Anyone have some easy meal plans or recipes they can share for someone with Type 2 diabetes and high cholesterol???
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Blackened grilled Salmon using Zatarain's blackening seasoning. I do it on the BBQ on one of those grill mats so you don't have to add any oil or butter to it. Then I do a vegetable such as green beans. I get the microwave in a bag type so they only take 2-3 min to cook. Sprinkle a little pepper on them. Low calorie meal and good for you.0
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Yum!! Thanks! I love salmon.0
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It might be easier to offer you suggestions if we understood how you eat now. Like, do you eat out a lot? Is that something you want to change?
There's plenty of plans out there. Without more info, I guess I'd recommend following your doctor's advice, but maybe following the "Mediterranean diet" plans out there. Easily google-able or recipe books in your local library. The mediterranean diet emphasizes lean poultry, complex carbs, fruits and veggies, olive oil and de-emphasizes sweets and red meat. Occasional cheese and occasional eggs are included.0 -
I'm doing low carb now. My issue is having a hard time putting a complete balanced meal together. Nutritionist has me eating specific numbers of starch, protein, fat, dairy, etc each meal. I also have high cholesterol and may have kidney disease. I find myself skipping some and it's just something I need to work on. It's a big life change for me. Thanks for your input.0
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Here's a great tool for creating your plate:
http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/food/planning-meals/create-your-plate/0 -
I'm doing low carb now. My issue is having a hard time putting a complete balanced meal together. Nutritionist has me eating specific numbers of starch, protein, fat, dairy, etc each meal. I also have high cholesterol and may have kidney disease. I find myself skipping some and it's just something I need to work on. It's a big life change for me. Thanks for your input.
Did the doctor give you a meal plan to follow? If not, and you're having trouble making meals, maybe ask for a referral to a nutritionist or something like that than help you plan things following your doctor's advice.
Or, there's some really smart people here. If you told us the limitations your doctor gave you (as in, tell us specifically how much of each macro you're supposed to eat) and we might be able to help.
I'm cautious giving advice, because we don't know the details of what your doctor said, and you seem to have a lot of conditions, which makes it harder to recommend things safely to you.0 -
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Foods to enjoy and foods to add to improve your cholesterol numbers. When I lost significant weight I stopped needing cholesterol medication.
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/high-blood-cholesterol/in-depth/cholesterol/art-20045192?pg=10 -
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Do you mean you skip some meals? I can see where it might be helpful to put a few meals together so that you don't skip. Most important is to eat regularly so your sugars don't go all radical on you.
For breakfast, oatmeal with raisins, nuts, and Greek yogurt. Or an egg white omelet filled with veggies and a little cheese.
For lunch, soup or salad with deli meat, feta cheese, nuts, and a few crackers.
For dinner, chicken with pasta/rice/potato and a steamed vegetable. Or lean roast beef with pasta/rice/potato and a salad. Glass of milk on the side.0 -
For the kidneys (I hope all this isn't overwhelming) it is better to eat lower phosphorus foods.
http://www.kidneyfund.org/kidney-disease/kidney-friendly-diet-ckd/?referrer=https://www.google.ca/
If I were to rate all the things you have to consider for your diet, I think eating regularly is most important.0 -
You are awesome jgnatca!! Thanks for all the info. I will definitely be reading all these links.0
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I'm doing low carb now. My issue is having a hard time putting a complete balanced meal together. Nutritionist has me eating specific numbers of starch, protein, fat, dairy, etc each meal. I also have high cholesterol and may have kidney disease. I find myself skipping some and it's just something I need to work on. It's a big life change for me. Thanks for your input.
Disclaimer - I am not diabetic.
How about asking the nutritionist for clarification and more help? That's what they are there for
Did you get food lists? For example, you need to eat X amount of starch and here is a list of starches.
I usually start with the protein and then go from there. For example, if chicken thighs are on sale, I will bake them and some potatoes and add broccoli.
Do you truly need dairy at every meal? I have it for lunch with sandwiches when there is smaller amounts of protein and as snacks with nuts and/or apples.0 -
@kshama2001 indeed I was trained to include dairy at every meal. As it contains all the macros, it can help even things out.
Here's a list of portable snacks that I use to include at least two macros, often three, in a single snack.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/jgnatca/view/mid-day-snacks-7225040 -
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Dr didn't really give me any info. She just sent me to nutrition classes. I've taken two courses so far. Don't know too much yet. So that is why I'm pretty much lost. I was told to eat 1600 calories a day. 45 grams of carbs for each meal and 15 for snacks. I don't know what macros are so I'm not able to tell you how much I can eat. I'm very new to all this so I'm sorry I can't really tell you more. I want to lose 20 lbs and hoping that will help with the diabetes and cholesterol and kidney issues. I'm just doing a low carb diet and working out now. But nutritionist wants me to eat 45 grams each meal which I'm very hesitant with doing that. I know everybody's body is different so I am just trying to get a feel of what plans everybody is using and see which one will work for me. I find that not everything the dr or nutritionist say is always right cause my body may not react the same as another person. Thanks for any advice or input you have.I'm doing low carb now. My issue is having a hard time putting a complete balanced meal together. Nutritionist has me eating specific numbers of starch, protein, fat, dairy, etc each meal. I also have high cholesterol and may have kidney disease. I find myself skipping some and it's just something I need to work on. It's a big life change for me. Thanks for your input.
Did the doctor give you a meal plan to follow? If not, and you're having trouble making meals, maybe ask for a referral to a nutritionist or something like that than help you plan things following your doctor's advice.
Or, there's some really smart people here. If you told us the limitations your doctor gave you (as in, tell us specifically how much of each macro you're supposed to eat) and we might be able to help.
I'm cautious giving advice, because we don't know the details of what your doctor said, and you seem to have a lot of conditions, which makes it harder to recommend things safely to you.
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MFP can help figuring out the macros, as the first three on your diary are carbs, fats, and proteins. Those are your three macros.0
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Your doctor is giving you around 200 carbs per day. How many are you aiming for and if it's lower than 200, why are you aiming lower than your doctor suggested?
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Yes, it is a legit question. It's not that I'm purposely not eating the amount of calories and number of carbs the nutritionist is telling me to eat. It's actually not my doctor who's telling me anything. I'm getting this info from a nutritionist class that consist of about 20 other people who range from all races, age, weight, and other health issues. I just can't force myself to eat that much calories a day and I don't want to eat that much carbs a day. Is that wrong? I was eating carbs like crazy before and that's how I got here. So I just feel like if I'm going to beat this I need to make a big change. I've done some research and many people have said low carb and high protein is a great start. I've been doing it for a month now and it's getting better. But after being told I need to eat a complete balanced meal that consist of the starch, veggies, protein, dairy, and fat it's been hard to do. I feel like that is just a lot of food. I'm just so tired of eating chicken and fish. I miss that greasy burger or carne asada burrito.
Is that legit?Your doctor is giving you around 200 carbs per day. How many are you aiming for and if it's lower than 200, why are you aiming lower than your doctor suggested?
Legit question.
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I athink I may have heard some of the same advice, especially about the number of carbs per meal or snack; however, I think they are meant to be maximums. In my opinion, starch is entirely optional, though I frequently include it. Balanced meals also do not require dairy, though it can be an excellent source for some essential nutrients. Get a variety of foods. Log it all and look beyond the macros. Chicken and fish aren't you're only options, but that greasy burger may not be something you awant to eat daily - or even every week. LEan ground beef in a tomato sauce over spaghetti squash or a sweet potato with a salad can be quite nutricious. Maybe a roasted pork loin with roasted root veggies.
The red meat (beef and pork) restriction may have more to do with your kidney problems, so it's worth asking.
Try to have an individual appointment with the nutitionist. Discuss what you like to eat and your goals.0 -
Thanks! Great advice. I will try some of your ideas. Do they make a low sugar carb tomato sauce? I have one more class and I will definitely be asking more questions.I athink I may have heard some of the same advice, especially about the number of carbs per meal or snack; however, I think they are meant to be maximums. In my opinion, starch is entirely optional, though I frequently include it. Balanced meals also do not require dairy, though it can be an excellent source for some essential nutrients. Get a variety of foods. Log it all and look beyond the macros. Chicken and fish aren't you're only options, but that greasy burger may not be something you awant to eat daily - or even every week. LEan ground beef in a tomato sauce over spaghetti squash or a sweet potato with a salad can be quite nutricious. Maybe a roasted pork loin with roasted root veggies.
The red meat (beef and pork) restriction may have more to do with your kidney problems, so it's worth asking.
Try to have an individual appointment with the nutitionist. Discuss what you like to eat and your goals.
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Thanks! Great advice. I will try some of your ideas. Do they make a low sugar carb tomato sauce? I have one more class and I will definitely be asking more questions.I athink I may have heard some of the same advice, especially about the number of carbs per meal or snack; however, I think they are meant to be maximums. In my opinion, starch is entirely optional, though I frequently include it. Balanced meals also do not require dairy, though it can be an excellent source for some essential nutrients. Get a variety of foods. Log it all and look beyond the macros. Chicken and fish aren't you're only options, but that greasy burger may not be something you awant to eat daily - or even every week. LEan ground beef in a tomato sauce over spaghetti squash or a sweet potato with a salad can be quite nutricious. Maybe a roasted pork loin with roasted root veggies.
The red meat (beef and pork) restriction may have more to do with your kidney problems, so it's worth asking.
Try to have an individual appointment with the nutitionist. Discuss what you like to eat and your goals.
You can find no added sugar tomato sauce in the grocery store. You have to comb through a lot of added suger ones first to do so. Alos, keep in mind that tomatoes are naturally sugar-y0 -
My son is type 1 diabetic so I don't know if this would
Be the same for type 2 diabetics but his carb recommendation is 45-60 per meal and 15-30 for snacks. He's been diabetic since he was 2 so now after eating lower carbs his whole life he's not a fan of carbs. He in actuality eats about 30-45 carbs per meal often times less and 15 for snacks.
I'd assume the lower carbs the better for type 2 diabetics as well as its all about carbs breaking down in to sugar and that's why you limit it.
Veggies (although corn and peas as pretty "carby"
Lean meats (my son fills up on lean meats and veggies)
His snacks are normally
Eggs
Small amounts of fruits
String cheese
Popcorn
Rice cakes
He does probably drink too much diet soda but since I had to be so strict about other foods i was pretty lenient about diet soda as long as he also drank tons of water.
For a different low carb drink the diet V8 drinks are surprisingly good and only 6-8 carbs per 8oz cup
Good luck you can do this and will be so happy once you get it all under control
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I eat burgers on occasion, but with only the skinny part of the bun, so they are open-faced
But if that recommendation has to do with kidney health, I wouldn't know anything about that. I'm just talking glucose.
The carb amount does sound high, unless we're talking beans, tomatoes, or peas, etc. I'd do them as maximums, yeah.
Do you have a glucose monitor? Check your blood after eating different meals and see how they affect your sugars. See if you go down to 140 or below 2 hours after eating whatever it is (without eating anything else in between, which is usually my problem with coffee, etc).
For the cholesterol, eat more fiber and use olive oil, etc, instead of saturated fats like butter. If it's your triglycerides that are the main problem, fixing your blood sugar will really help with that on its own. Good luck!0 -
Yes, it is a legit question. It's not that I'm purposely not eating the amount of calories and number of carbs the nutritionist is telling me to eat. It's actually not my doctor who's telling me anything. I'm getting this info from a nutritionist class that consist of about 20 other people who range from all races, age, weight, and other health issues. I just can't force myself to eat that much calories a day and I don't want to eat that much carbs a day. Is that wrong? I was eating carbs like crazy before and that's how I got here. So I just feel like if I'm going to beat this I need to make a big change. I've done some research and many people have said low carb and high protein is a great start. I've been doing it for a month now and it's getting better. But after being told I need to eat a complete balanced meal that consist of the starch, veggies, protein, dairy, and fat it's been hard to do. I feel like that is just a lot of food. I'm just so tired of eating chicken and fish. I miss that greasy burger or carne asada burrito.
Is that legit?Your doctor is giving you around 200 carbs per day. How many are you aiming for and if it's lower than 200, why are you aiming lower than your doctor suggested?
Legit question.
I just noticed that you said you are trying high protein. You need to ask what numbers are safe/recommended there for kidney issues. High protein is usually not recommended for that.
You might want to use a blood monitor and check out the Glycemic Index/Glycemic Load, then. It can help you find more foods that don't spike blood sugar (with some individual variation, so check your levels). Then you could avoid meat a bit more by eating carbs that aren't a problem. They actually help regulate blood sugar better, so they are often recommended for diabetes.
You might get into a lot of (homemade) chili-like meals like I love! Tuscan bean stews, Lentil stews, Quick Cassoulets, etc, as recipes are really yummy and use mostly beans with meat as a smaller highlight. The beans are cooked in the meat, so it's still very tasty for meat-lovers! Regular chili works, too That's still protein as well, but it probably won't add up as quickly as a lot of meat will. 0 -
Yes, it is a legit question. It's not that I'm purposely not eating the amount of calories and number of carbs the nutritionist is telling me to eat. It's actually not my doctor who's telling me anything. I'm getting this info from a nutritionist class that consist of about 20 other people who range from all races, age, weight, and other health issues. I just can't force myself to eat that much calories a day and I don't want to eat that much carbs a day. Is that wrong? I was eating carbs like crazy before and that's how I got here. So I just feel like if I'm going to beat this I need to make a big change. I've done some research and many people have said low carb and high protein is a great start. I've been doing it for a month now and it's getting better. But after being told I need to eat a complete balanced meal that consist of the starch, veggies, protein, dairy, and fat it's been hard to do. I feel like that is just a lot of food. I'm just so tired of eating chicken and fish. I miss that greasy burger or carne asada burrito.
Is that legit?Your doctor is giving you around 200 carbs per day. How many are you aiming for and if it's lower than 200, why are you aiming lower than your doctor suggested?
Legit question.
I'm not a doctor. I'm not qualified to give you medical advice. I'm in no way against low carb. I actually encourage most people to try it, since it can work great for many of them.
When you say you might have kidney disease... you're now in territory outside my particular studies. But one thing with low carb is you need to eat more salt and such, and the extra electrolytes and excess protein are both things that can make your kidneys work harder. Now, if your renal issues are more from excess sugar, getting the diabetes under control might reverse it. I'M NOT A KIDNEY EXPERT, I'm just brainstorming off the anatomy and physiology I do know. I'd hate for you to solve one issue (T2 Diabetes) and worsen another one (kidney function).
Certainly the carb advice from the nutritionist might be more of a maximum thing. But I also would be highly wary of going too high of protein for you. I really think a more balanced approach is best until you get a little healthier. I stick with my recommendation for a moderate carb Mediterranean diet. Losing weight just on its own should help quite a bit with the cholesterol and diabetes. There's lots of studies that show complex carbs in things like oatmeal help lower cholesterol.
It's great you're taking charge of your health. Good luck.0 -
Anyone have some easy meal plans or recipes they can share for someone with Type 2 diabetes and high cholesterol???
I was diagnosed T2Dm almost 2 years ago and am already off all meds and my A1C has been maintaining just below 5.5. My meal plan has really been fairly simple: I have a maximum daily carb allowance of 180 (total, not net) and I log everything to make sure I don't go over (most days. I have an occasional high carb day, but keep them to a minimum).
Some things I do:- Sandwiches do not need 2 pieces of bread. One works just fine (Sandwich thins which give you 2 pieces for the calorie/carb equivalent of one slice of bread work even better for sandwiches and hamburger buns
- I limit my fruit and do not drink juices at all
- When I make a stew or something that I will eat with rice, I make sure there is enough liquid in it and I cook the rice right in the stew (1/4 c. DRY per serving). That way I am not tempted to add that "just one more spoonful" onto my plate
- When I make a soup or stew that has potatoes, I substitute turnips instead. Just as hearty and tasty, but about 1/3 the carbs of potatoes
- I eat carbs at every meal and make sure I also get protein and fat along with them
- One glass of red wine before dinner (OK, this is my thing, not a recommendation but I have noticed that my BG reading drops quickly after having a glass of wine)
- I limit the carb heavy treats, but plan them into my day when I know I will be having them. If I will be going to a party where there will be cake, I eat fewer carbs at my meals.
- When I go out to eat, as much as possible, I check out the restaurant menu online and plan what I will be having. I always ask about substitutions. Many will sub something like a side salad instead of fries.
- I keep lower carb snack things like nuts, hard cooked eggs, cheese, light microwave popcorn (not totally low carb but definitely a good choice when you need to eat a big bag of something), etc. around
- I no longer eat cereal for breakfast. 2 minutes in the microwave and I have a big bowl of scrambled eggs (I use Egg Beaters), which makes for a satisfying breakfast, especially if I include a veggie sausage patty with it.
- Load up on the non-starchy veggies. Eat a double serving, make a huge salad. Add a large onion instead of a small one or throw an extra tomato or two into stews.
It was amazingly easy to reduce my carbs to a moderate level by just being aware of what is carb heavy. Unless it is recommended by your doctor or you personally find it more satisfying, there is no reason to go keto or low carb.
If you haven't already, find a health care professional who has advanced diabetic care knowledge, especially if you can find a Certified Diabetic Educator (most are RN's but some will be MD's, PA's, or Nurse Practitioners who have gone through the certification process). Take any classes you can, especially if free or your insurance will pay for them. There are a lot of resources available at the ADA website ( http://www.diabetes.org/ ) and the Bloodsugar 101 website ( http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/ )
It takes knowledge and awareness, but it can be done! Good luck to you.
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I was eating carbs like crazy before and that's how I got here. So I just feel like if I'm going to beat this I need to make a big change. I've done some research and many people have said low carb and high protein is a great start.
First of all, you did not get this way by "eating carbs like crazy" except for what the excess food did to make you gain weight. The main risk factors in T2 diabetes are genetics, excess weight, and age. There are lesser risk factors like long term use of certain medications (especially anti-depressants and statins), if your mother had gestational diabetes while carrying you, some cancer treatments (especially in childhood), etc. Eating carbs is not one of them and most people who develop T2Dm have 2 or more of the risk factors.
Moderating carb intake is the first, and for most, the most effective way to manage the disease. Exactly how you define "moderating" is personal. Low carb is not necessarily the best thing for you (but it might be, like I said, it is personal).
You were asking about actual meals.
A typical day for me (1360 calories plus I eat back most exercise calories so I average about 1700-1800 calories a day):- Breakfast: coffee with cream, scrambled egg beaters with a veggie sausage patty
- Lunch: sandwich with lean meat and one slice of bread, 1/2 c of Greek yogurt with 1 scoop protein powder, a serving of fruit
- Mid- afternoon snack: some nuts, cheese, maybe a protein bar
- Dinner: big salad and a piece of meat with steamed veggies or, most of the time, a stew or casserole with meat, veggies, maybe rice, maybe a tortilla.
- Bedtime snack: a couple of hard cooked eggs, cheese, maybe a slice of bread or a couple of crispbreads with the cheese.
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Thanks! Great advice. I will try some of your ideas. Do they make a low sugar carb tomato sauce? I have one more class and I will definitely be asking more questions.
Tomato sauce should not have sugar added. Spaghetti sauce will. Buy plain tomato sauce or diced tomatoes and season it yourself.
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