Carbs and sugar
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OP, since this is a direct quote from your original thread post - My doc said older women, which I am one, have many problems with these two as far as weight loss goes. She said cut down on carbs and sugar. we can only go off of that information. You don't indicate that she performed any medical testing, bloodwork, etc on you, but only gave a basic generalized statement about your age and gender. If that's true, it's not accurate information that she gave you, which some doctors, being human and susceptible to falling victim to making errors and believing 'woo', may do.
That being said, if she did do any bloodwork, testing, etc, please feel free to correct us.0 -
ttfnweight wrote: »How the devil do I cut down on these two demons. My doc said older women, which I am one, have many problems with these two as far as weight loss goes. She said cut down on carbs and sugar. But try as I might. Starve sometimes I feel, they are always the two I go into the red on! How does everyone else do it??!!!!!
So since your doctor said to cut down on carbs, your doctor thinks you should eat less fruits and vegetables? Less brown, sweet potatoes and oatmeal?
What was the explanation you got as to why older women have trouble losing weight because of carbs?Your doctor is talking from a position of woo
This is what happens when you have a generalist medic who took an afternoon on nutrition in their training and lives in the same society as we all do ...the one corrupted by tabloid messaging from the health and fitness and beauty markets
If you want to lose weight stick to your calorie limits across the week. Keep an eye on protein macro (aim for a minimum of 0.64g protein per lb bodyweight), eat nutritionally dense foods most of the time, allow for treats, do not demonise foods or food groups
Low carb works for some as their preferred way of eating ...not me and it sounds like not you
50% of my diet is carbs...I swapped sugar tracking for fibre
Rabbit, do you know OP's doc and OP's medical history? Or are you just making generalizations?
Every GP has approximately 6 hours of nutrition education. The only way they receive more than that is to either a)specialize and no longer be a GP, or b) do quite a bit of outside research on their own, in addition to the ongoing education they are already required to do to maintain their license, which isn't likely.
So rabbbit is trashing the doctors instructions while knowing no actual information about doctor or patient?
Not cool.
It's media trash advice without any reason ..did OP talk of any medical condition, no? She mentioned her age and a fundamental crap generic advice from a generalist ...
You are talking to a specific person who's doctor made a suggestion based on information that you do not know. You need to stop.
So you agree with the idea that older women have trouble with weight loss because of carbs?
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AyyyDaDebil wrote: »ttfnweight wrote: »How the devil do I cut down on these two demons. My doc said older women, which I am one, have many problems with these two as far as weight loss goes. She said cut down on carbs and sugar. But try as I might. Starve sometimes I feel, they are always the two I go into the red on! How does everyone else do it??!!!!!
So since your doctor said to cut down on carbs, your doctor thinks you should eat less fruits and vegetables? Less brown, sweet potatoes and oatmeal?
What was the explanation you got as to why older women have trouble losing weight because of carbs?Your doctor is talking from a position of woo
This is what happens when you have a generalist medic who took an afternoon on nutrition in their training and lives in the same society as we all do ...the one corrupted by tabloid messaging from the health and fitness and beauty markets
If you want to lose weight stick to your calorie limits across the week. Keep an eye on protein macro (aim for a minimum of 0.64g protein per lb bodyweight), eat nutritionally dense foods most of the time, allow for treats, do not demonise foods or food groups
Low carb works for some as their preferred way of eating ...not me and it sounds like not you
50% of my diet is carbs...I swapped sugar tracking for fibre
Rabbit, do you know OP's doc and OP's medical history? Or are you just making generalizations?
Every GP has approximately 6 hours of nutrition education. The only way they receive more than that is to either a)specialize and no longer be a GP, or b) do quite a bit of outside research on their own, in addition to the ongoing education they are already required to do to maintain their license, which isn't likely.
So rabbbit is trashing the doctors instructions while knowing no actual information about doctor or patient?
Not cool.
It's media trash advice without any reason ..did OP talk of any medical condition, no? She mentioned her age and a fundamental crap generic advice from a generalist ...
You are talking to a specific person who's doctor made a suggestion based on information that you do not know. You need to stop.
So you agree with the idea that older women have trouble with weight loss because of carbs?
I don't agree not disagree. I've never been an older woman0 -
OP, since this is a direct quote from your original thread post - My doc said older women, which I am one, have many problems with these two as far as weight loss goes. She said cut down on carbs and sugar. we can only go off of that information. You don't indicate that she performed any medical testing, bloodwork, etc on you, but only gave a basic generalized statement about your age and gender. If that's true, it's not accurate information that she gave you, which some doctors, being human and susceptible to falling victim to making errors and believing 'woo', may do.
That being said, if she did do any bloodwork, testing, etc, please feel free to correct us.
No blood work. No test. I did ask if it's true my age slowed my ability to lose weight. She said yes. Due to the drop in hormones etc. she then said and I quote" our down fall as older woman is carbs and sugars." When I asked what that meant she said "rice potatoes pasta breads, ice cream...and all the sugary snacks like cookies cakes etc.0 -
ttfnweight wrote: »OP, since this is a direct quote from your original thread post - My doc said older women, which I am one, have many problems with these two as far as weight loss goes. She said cut down on carbs and sugar. we can only go off of that information. You don't indicate that she performed any medical testing, bloodwork, etc on you, but only gave a basic generalized statement about your age and gender. If that's true, it's not accurate information that she gave you, which some doctors, being human and susceptible to falling victim to making errors and believing 'woo', may do.
That being said, if she did do any bloodwork, testing, etc, please feel free to correct us.
No blood work. No test. I did ask if it's true my age slowed my ability to lose weight. She said yes. Due to the drop in hormones etc. she then said and I quote" our down fall as older woman is carbs and sugars." When I asked what that meant she said "rice potatoes pasta breads, ice cream...and all the sugary snacks like cookies cakes etc.
Given the context of your doctor's statement, seek a referral.0 -
Not sure why your doc would advise that. Your diary says you've only just gone over carbs or sugar one or two times this month.
Do you have diabetes or something?
Well done on your weight loss so far!
No I'm not diabetic but the weight isn't coming off near as fast as it did 8 years ago when I lost 40 lbs and kept it off for almost 5 years.0 -
Your doctor is talking from a position of woo
This is what happens when you have a generalist medic who took an afternoon on nutrition in their training and lives in the same society as we all do ...the one corrupted by tabloid messaging from the health and fitness and beauty markets
If you want to lose weight stick to your calorie limits across the week. Keep an eye on protein macro (aim for a minimum of 0.64g protein per lb bodyweight), eat nutritionally dense foods most of the time, allow for treats, do not demonise foods or food groups
Low carb works for some as their preferred way of eating ...not me and it sounds like not you
50% of my diet is carbs...I swapped sugar tracking for fibre
^ Great advice right there. Carbs and sugar don't make you gain weight, too many calories do.
Doctor Oz is a doctor too, and he's one of the biggest woo peddlers there is - just sayin'.
What's "WOO??"0 -
ttfnweight wrote: »Not sure why your doc would advise that. Your diary says you've only just gone over carbs or sugar one or two times this month.
Do you have diabetes or something?
Well done on your weight loss so far!
No I'm not diabetic but the weight isn't coming off near as fast as it did 8 years ago when I lost 40 lbs and kept it off for almost 5 years.
How does your overall activity level compare to eight years ago? Same question for calories eaten? I suspect those are bigger factors than just being a few years older/hormones.0 -
jofjltncb6 wrote: »ttfnweight wrote: »Not sure why your doc would advise that. Your diary says you've only just gone over carbs or sugar one or two times this month.
Do you have diabetes or something?
Well done on your weight loss so far!
No I'm not diabetic but the weight isn't coming off near as fast as it did 8 years ago when I lost 40 lbs and kept it off for almost 5 years.
How does your overall activity level compare to eight years ago? Same question for calories eaten? I suspect those are bigger factors than just being a few years older/hormones.
I still do the same job. But yes my activity level has deacreased. I'm much more tired all the time than I was then.0 -
If one wanted to lower carbs, one would eat more fats and oils and protein: eggs, avocado, butter, coconut oil, Full fat salad dressing, cheese, mayo, chicken thighs, chia seeds, pumpkin seeds, pork chops, salmon.
One would greatly increase leafy greens like kale, spinach, romaine,collards. Also broccoli, zucchini, green beans, snow peas, cucumber.
One would eat less bread, rice , pasta, cereal, pizza, potatoes.
Thank you. I was hoping for that. Just a bit of guidance. I thought I knew how to eat healthy but the more I learn the less I realize I know.0 -
ttfnweight wrote: »jofjltncb6 wrote: »ttfnweight wrote: »Not sure why your doc would advise that. Your diary says you've only just gone over carbs or sugar one or two times this month.
Do you have diabetes or something?
Well done on your weight loss so far!
No I'm not diabetic but the weight isn't coming off near as fast as it did 8 years ago when I lost 40 lbs and kept it off for almost 5 years.
How does your overall activity level compare to eight years ago? Same question for calories eaten? I suspect those are bigger factors than just being a few years older/hormones.
I still do the same job. But yes my activity level has deacreased. I'm much more tired all the time than I was then.
So less active ... probably with less lean body mass due to atrophy ... that means eating the same number of calories as you used to when dieting in the past will not produce the same rate of loss.
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ttfnweight wrote: »How the devil do I cut down on these two demons. My doc said older women, which I am one, have many problems with these two as far as weight loss goes. She said cut down on carbs and sugar. But try as I might. Starve sometimes I feel, they are always the two I go into the red on! How does everyone else do it??!!!!!
your diary shows you are very light on protein some days, contrary to the bandwagon jumping :-)
Your calorie goal of 1710 looks optimistic.
My calorie goal should be 1210 not 1710. I don't eat that many Cals. I tried upping my Cals and started gaining instead of losing. With 1210 I have at least gotten to 156 which I haven't seen in like four years.0 -
brianpperkins wrote: »ttfnweight wrote: »jofjltncb6 wrote: »ttfnweight wrote: »Not sure why your doc would advise that. Your diary says you've only just gone over carbs or sugar one or two times this month.
Do you have diabetes or something?
Well done on your weight loss so far!
No I'm not diabetic but the weight isn't coming off near as fast as it did 8 years ago when I lost 40 lbs and kept it off for almost 5 years.
How does your overall activity level compare to eight years ago? Same question for calories eaten? I suspect those are bigger factors than just being a few years older/hormones.
I still do the same job. But yes my activity level has deacreased. I'm much more tired all the time than I was then.
So less active ... probably with less lean body mass due to atrophy ... that means eating the same number of calories as you used to when dieting in the past will not produce the same rate of loss.
I no longer eat the same. I wish I could. I'm hungry a lot. But I wait it out and drink water.0 -
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Weight loss comes down to energy balance ... taking in fewer calories than your body burns. Low carb is one approach but carbs themselves are not responsible for gain or loss ... the total number of calories consumed in relation to those used are.0
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PeachyCarol wrote: »I'm 53 and have been losing weight (72 pounds so far) with varying macro ratios. What I found satiating varied according to my activity level at the time.
OP, as has been suggested in this thread, doctors aren't really trained in nutrition.
More to the point, though, is the fact that to successfully lose weight, no one's advice matters. What matters is that you're getting proper nourishment and that you're eating a diet comprised of foods that satisfy you body and soul.
The key macro to focus on is protein. There are several reasons for this. Firstly, many people find protein to be satiating. Secondly, dieters require more protein than healthy weight individuals maintaining their weight because dieters are in a position where they might be compromising their muscle mass. A diet containing .65 - .85g of protein per pound of bodyweight plus some sort of resistance training will help preserve your muscle mass as you lose weight.
After portioning out your protein calorie budget, meet the minimum requirement for fat -- .35 g per pound of bodyweight. This is important in order to help joints function optimally and to absorb fat soluble vitamins from fruits and veggies.
After that? Experiment with the rest of your calorie budget. Different people feel satisfied with different macro ratios. There's a lot of noise on these forums about what is best and what worked best for any given person, but only you can find what will work best for you and keep you from feeling hungry.
Some people feel less hungry spending all those extra calories on carbs. Some people feel less hungry spending some on carbs, and the rest on fat. Some give some to protein and lots to fat and just a tiny amount to carbs. Find what works for you.
OP, please make sure you read this post, twice. And take notes. With no medical conditions to consider, carb level is personal preference, and only as a way to take in less calories than you burn while still feeling satiated.0 -
ttfnweight wrote: »ttfnweight wrote: »How the devil do I cut down on these two demons. My doc said older women, which I am one, have many problems with these two as far as weight loss goes. She said cut down on carbs and sugar. But try as I might. Starve sometimes I feel, they are always the two I go into the red on! How does everyone else do it??!!!!!
your diary shows you are very light on protein some days, contrary to the bandwagon jumping :-)
Your calorie goal of 1710 looks optimistic.
My calorie goal should be 1210 not 1710. I don't eat that many Cals. I tried upping my Cals and started gaining instead of losing. With 1210 I have at least gotten to 156 which I haven't seen in like four years.
You need to not demonize food groups - your doctor did that, and that's wrong. Without running any bloodwork or tests, she has no idea about your overall health picture, and that's a mistake. Instead, she generalized you by saying 'older women' and then demonized food.
Older women shouldn't have any problem losing weight. You may be feeling less energetic, but you're also moving less -that's a big catch-22. The less you move, the less energy you have. Try to start an exercise program that you'll enjoy and stick with, and you'll find yourself with more energy.
You also need to be sure that you are logging your food and tracking your calories with as much accuracy as possible- the best way to do that is by weighing all your solid foods. If you don't already have one, you can get a good digital scale with a tare feature for around $15-20.
Do these things, you'll be more fit and lose weight. What you eat doesn't really matter, as long as your diet is fairly well-balanced and you enjoy what your eating - and stick to your calorie deficit.
And 'woo' -refers to the magic cures that are offered up by the pitchmen and women of the world - the things that they claim will work so quickly to help you lose weight but really won't.0 -
PeachyCarol wrote: »I'm 53 and have been losing weight (72 pounds so far) with varying macro ratios. What I found satiating varied according to my activity level at the time.
OP, as has been suggested in this thread, doctors aren't really trained in nutrition.
More to the point, though, is the fact that to successfully lose weight, no one's advice matters. What matters is that you're getting proper nourishment and that you're eating a diet comprised of foods that satisfy you body and soul.
The key macro to focus on is protein. There are several reasons for this. Firstly, many people find protein to be satiating. Secondly, dieters require more protein than healthy weight individuals maintaining their weight because dieters are in a position where they might be compromising their muscle mass. A diet containing .65 - .85g of protein per pound of bodyweight plus some sort of resistance training will help preserve your muscle mass as you lose weight.
After portioning out your protein calorie budget, meet the minimum requirement for fat -- .35 g per pound of bodyweight. This is important in order to help joints function optimally and to absorb fat soluble vitamins from fruits and veggies.
After that? Experiment with the rest of your calorie budget. Different people feel satisfied with different macro ratios. There's a lot of noise on these forums about what is best and what worked best for any given person, but only you can find what will work best for you and keep you from feeling hungry.
Some people feel less hungry spending all those extra calories on carbs. Some people feel less hungry spending some on carbs, and the rest on fat. Some give some to protein and lots to fat and just a tiny amount to carbs. Find what works for you.
OP, please make sure you read this post, twice. And take notes. With no medical conditions to consider, carb level is personal preference, and only as a way to take in less calories than you burn while still feeling satiated.
Thank you. VERY HELPFUL. I appreciate your time.0 -
ttfnweight wrote: »
Then I would suggest that you listen to what she is telling you. She is absolutely right. Go figure. (pun intended rabbit lol)0 -
Everyone here talks about low carbs, but since I have diabetes, my dietician and Diabetes educator have told me that carbs are what we need for energy. Too low in carbs, and your liver starts producing glucose and doesn't know when to stop, which contributes to high blood sugar readings.
No offense to all you nutrition mavens, but I'll stick with the advice my doctor, dietician and nurse tell me. There is just too much conflicting information floating around, and it just adds to the confusion.0 -
judyvalentine512 wrote: »Everyone here talks about low carbs, but since I have diabetes, my dietician and Diabetes educator have told me that carbs are what we need for energy. Too low in carbs, and your liver starts producing glucose and doesn't know when to stop, which contributes to high blood sugar readings.
No offense to all you nutrition mavens, but I'll stick with the advice my doctor, dietician and nurse tell me. There is just too much conflicting information floating around, and it just adds to the confusion.
Since you have a medical reason to watch your carb intake (high or low), that's different from the OP who doesn't and was just given advice without reasoning.
OP, it may be your doctor said that because carbs are what people tend to overeat. I've lost 45 pounds eating all of that stuff, I just make sure I watch my portions.0 -
I eat a really high-carb diet. Keeps me full, gives me nutrients, low-cal...it works for me.ttfnweight wrote: »How the devil do I cut down on these two demons. My doc said older women, which I am one, have many problems with these two as far as weight loss goes. She said cut down on carbs and sugar. But try as I might. Starve sometimes I feel, they are always the two I go into the red on! How does everyone else do it??!!!!!
I did switch white breads and pastas to whole-grain ones. That helps me with cravings. Used to eat white, then wanted more and more and more. Now, I do the whole-grain thing and no cravings! A little is all I need.
I cut added sugars by just eating healthier stuff. I still get sugar in my fruits. I add sugar to my bread, usually. But other than that, not much sugar.
If you eat reasonable amounts of heathy food, it all gets much easier. This requires making your own food in ways that taste good so you can enjoy what you eat, but it's worth doing, IMO.
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I am a "older" woman
i eat also 50% carbs and np with losing weight
I looked at your diary and you eat probably more calories than you know/think
your logging is not that accurate i am afraid to say so
1 fruit
1 slice cup of this or that etc
Weigh your food in grams and you will notice the difference really.
When you dont have any medical reasons to cut out a food group or like carbs or sugar...than it doesn't matter.
But being more accurate and weigh all your food in grams will make a difference for sure.
Here a short video about weighing or measuring food. Hundreds of calories difference for just 2 items
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY
I use no cups/spoons or serving sizes i just weigh everything and from experience i can say that even serving sized can be way off.
Next to that chose the right entry's from the database and when grams is not available make your own. There are a lot of inaccurate entry's in the database.
You can always check the USDA site for more information.
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PeachyCarol wrote: »I'm 53 and have been losing weight (72 pounds so far) with varying macro ratios. What I found satiating varied according to my activity level at the time.
OP, as has been suggested in this thread, doctors aren't really trained in nutrition.
More to the point, though, is the fact that to successfully lose weight, no one's advice matters. What matters is that you're getting proper nourishment and that you're eating a diet comprised of foods that satisfy you body and soul.
The key macro to focus on is protein. There are several reasons for this. Firstly, many people find protein to be satiating. Secondly, dieters require more protein than healthy weight individuals maintaining their weight because dieters are in a position where they might be compromising their muscle mass. A diet containing .65 - .85g of protein per pound of bodyweight plus some sort of resistance training will help preserve your muscle mass as you lose weight.
After portioning out your protein calorie budget, meet the minimum requirement for fat -- .35 g per pound of bodyweight. This is important in order to help joints function optimally and to absorb fat soluble vitamins from fruits and veggies.
After that? Experiment with the rest of your calorie budget. Different people feel satisfied with different macro ratios. There's a lot of noise on these forums about what is best and what worked best for any given person, but only you can find what will work best for you and keep you from feeling hungry.
Some people feel less hungry spending all those extra calories on carbs. Some people feel less hungry spending some on carbs, and the rest on fat. Some give some to protein and lots to fat and just a tiny amount to carbs. Find what works for you.
OP, please make sure you read this post, twice. And take notes. With no medical conditions to consider, carb level is personal preference, and only as a way to take in less calories than you burn while still feeling satiated.
Thank you. VERY HELPFUL. I appreciate your time.judyvalentine512 wrote: »Everyone here talks about low carbs, but since I have diabetes, my dietician and Diabetes educator have told me that carbs are what we need for energy. Too low in carbs, and your liver starts producing glucose and doesn't know when to stop, which contributes to high blood sugar readings.
No offense to all you nutrition mavens, but I'll stick with the advice my doctor, dietician and nurse tell me. There is just too much conflicting information floating around, and it just adds to the confusion.
Since you have a medical reason to watch your carb intake (high or low), that's different from the OP who doesn't and was just given advice without reasoning.
OP, it may be your doctor said that because carbs are what people tend to overeat. I've lost 45 pounds eating all of that stuff, I just make sure I watch my portions.
Ok. I thought I was watching but I've been watching for a year now and all I've lost is 9 pounds. It seems like I'm doing something wrong.0 -
BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »I am a "older" woman
i eat also 50% carbs and np with losing weight
I looked at your diary and you eat probably more calories than you know/think
your logging is not that accurate i am afraid to say so
1 fruit
1 slice cup of this or that etc
Weigh your food in grams and you will notice the difference really.
When you dont have any medical reasons to cut out a food group or like carbs or sugar...than it doesn't matter.
But being more accurate and weigh all your food in grams will make a difference for sure.
Here a short video about weighing or measuring food. Hundreds of calories difference for just 2 itemshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY
I use no cups/spoons or serving sizes i just weigh everything and from experience i can say that even serving sized can be way off.
Next to that chose the right entry's from the database and when grams is not available make your own. There are a lot of inaccurate entry's in the database.
You can always check the USDA site for more information.
Yes. I have watched the video. I am weighing just not everything because an egg is an egg or a whole wheat round is what the pkg says. Pasta I actually measure. There isn't a lot of guesswork going on here. That's what I'm referring to when I say I've been " trying" for a year. Measuring weighing drinking more water then sweet tea or coffee. Etc0 -
ttfnweight wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I'm 53 and have been losing weight (72 pounds so far) with varying macro ratios. What I found satiating varied according to my activity level at the time.
OP, as has been suggested in this thread, doctors aren't really trained in nutrition.
More to the point, though, is the fact that to successfully lose weight, no one's advice matters. What matters is that you're getting proper nourishment and that you're eating a diet comprised of foods that satisfy you body and soul.
The key macro to focus on is protein. There are several reasons for this. Firstly, many people find protein to be satiating. Secondly, dieters require more protein than healthy weight individuals maintaining their weight because dieters are in a position where they might be compromising their muscle mass. A diet containing .65 - .85g of protein per pound of bodyweight plus some sort of resistance training will help preserve your muscle mass as you lose weight.
After portioning out your protein calorie budget, meet the minimum requirement for fat -- .35 g per pound of bodyweight. This is important in order to help joints function optimally and to absorb fat soluble vitamins from fruits and veggies.
After that? Experiment with the rest of your calorie budget. Different people feel satisfied with different macro ratios. There's a lot of noise on these forums about what is best and what worked best for any given person, but only you can find what will work best for you and keep you from feeling hungry.
Some people feel less hungry spending all those extra calories on carbs. Some people feel less hungry spending some on carbs, and the rest on fat. Some give some to protein and lots to fat and just a tiny amount to carbs. Find what works for you.
OP, please make sure you read this post, twice. And take notes. With no medical conditions to consider, carb level is personal preference, and only as a way to take in less calories than you burn while still feeling satiated.
Thank you. VERY HELPFUL. I appreciate your time.judyvalentine512 wrote: »Everyone here talks about low carbs, but since I have diabetes, my dietician and Diabetes educator have told me that carbs are what we need for energy. Too low in carbs, and your liver starts producing glucose and doesn't know when to stop, which contributes to high blood sugar readings.
No offense to all you nutrition mavens, but I'll stick with the advice my doctor, dietician and nurse tell me. There is just too much conflicting information floating around, and it just adds to the confusion.
Since you have a medical reason to watch your carb intake (high or low), that's different from the OP who doesn't and was just given advice without reasoning.
OP, it may be your doctor said that because carbs are what people tend to overeat. I've lost 45 pounds eating all of that stuff, I just make sure I watch my portions.
Ok. I thought I was watching but I've been watching for a year now and all I've lost is 9 pounds. It seems like I'm doing something wrong.
It's very possible that you do have something going on medically, if you are weighing your food and following your calorie deficit and still not losing weight. If this is the case, you should ask your doctor to perform the blood work necessary to check your thyroid and to rule out any other medical conditions that could cause you to have these problems.0 -
ttfnweight wrote: »OP, since this is a direct quote from your original thread post - My doc said older women, which I am one, have many problems with these two as far as weight loss goes. She said cut down on carbs and sugar. we can only go off of that information. You don't indicate that she performed any medical testing, bloodwork, etc on you, but only gave a basic generalized statement about your age and gender. If that's true, it's not accurate information that she gave you, which some doctors, being human and susceptible to falling victim to making errors and believing 'woo', may do.
That being said, if she did do any bloodwork, testing, etc, please feel free to correct us.
No blood work. No test. I did ask if it's true my age slowed my ability to lose weight. She said yes. Due to the drop in hormones etc. she then said and I quote" our down fall as older woman is carbs and sugars." When I asked what that meant she said "rice potatoes pasta breads, ice cream...and all the sugary snacks like cookies cakes etc.
She's wrong @ttfnweight
You are 3 years older than me
Please don't think I'm being mean about this, but your doctor has given you a general incorrect unbiased in science piece of bad advicettfnweight wrote: »
Thank you. It didn't look like that at 47 ...calorie control, moving more and heavy lifting
I never thought I could, was resigned to middle age...a born couch potato and loved my food. Which is why I know that a low carb diet because you're an "older" woman and for no real reason is inappropriate woo advice
If I could, you can
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ttfnweight wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I'm 53 and have been losing weight (72 pounds so far) with varying macro ratios. What I found satiating varied according to my activity level at the time.
OP, as has been suggested in this thread, doctors aren't really trained in nutrition.
More to the point, though, is the fact that to successfully lose weight, no one's advice matters. What matters is that you're getting proper nourishment and that you're eating a diet comprised of foods that satisfy you body and soul.
The key macro to focus on is protein. There are several reasons for this. Firstly, many people find protein to be satiating. Secondly, dieters require more protein than healthy weight individuals maintaining their weight because dieters are in a position where they might be compromising their muscle mass. A diet containing .65 - .85g of protein per pound of bodyweight plus some sort of resistance training will help preserve your muscle mass as you lose weight.
After portioning out your protein calorie budget, meet the minimum requirement for fat -- .35 g per pound of bodyweight. This is important in order to help joints function optimally and to absorb fat soluble vitamins from fruits and veggies.
After that? Experiment with the rest of your calorie budget. Different people feel satisfied with different macro ratios. There's a lot of noise on these forums about what is best and what worked best for any given person, but only you can find what will work best for you and keep you from feeling hungry.
Some people feel less hungry spending all those extra calories on carbs. Some people feel less hungry spending some on carbs, and the rest on fat. Some give some to protein and lots to fat and just a tiny amount to carbs. Find what works for you.
OP, please make sure you read this post, twice. And take notes. With no medical conditions to consider, carb level is personal preference, and only as a way to take in less calories than you burn while still feeling satiated.
Thank you. VERY HELPFUL. I appreciate your time.judyvalentine512 wrote: »Everyone here talks about low carbs, but since I have diabetes, my dietician and Diabetes educator have told me that carbs are what we need for energy. Too low in carbs, and your liver starts producing glucose and doesn't know when to stop, which contributes to high blood sugar readings.
No offense to all you nutrition mavens, but I'll stick with the advice my doctor, dietician and nurse tell me. There is just too much conflicting information floating around, and it just adds to the confusion.
Since you have a medical reason to watch your carb intake (high or low), that's different from the OP who doesn't and was just given advice without reasoning.
OP, it may be your doctor said that because carbs are what people tend to overeat. I've lost 45 pounds eating all of that stuff, I just make sure I watch my portions.
Ok. I thought I was watching but I've been watching for a year now and all I've lost is 9 pounds. It seems like I'm doing something wrong.
It's very possible that you do have something going on medically, if you are weighing your food and following your calorie deficit and still not losing weight. If this is the case, you should ask your doctor to perform the blood work necessary to check your thyroid and to rule out any other medical conditions that could cause you to have these problems.
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ttfnweight wrote: »OP, since this is a direct quote from your original thread post - My doc said older women, which I am one, have many problems with these two as far as weight loss goes. She said cut down on carbs and sugar. we can only go off of that information. You don't indicate that she performed any medical testing, bloodwork, etc on you, but only gave a basic generalized statement about your age and gender. If that's true, it's not accurate information that she gave you, which some doctors, being human and susceptible to falling victim to making errors and believing 'woo', may do.
That being said, if she did do any bloodwork, testing, etc, please feel free to correct us.
No blood work. No test. I did ask if it's true my age slowed my ability to lose weight. She said yes. Due to the drop in hormones etc. she then said and I quote" our down fall as older woman is carbs and sugars." When I asked what that meant she said "rice potatoes pasta breads, ice cream...and all the sugary snacks like cookies cakes etc.
She's wrong @ttfnweight
You are 3 years older than me
Please don't think I'm being mean about this, but your doctor has given you a general incorrect unbiased in science piece of bad advicettfnweight wrote: »
Thank you. It didn't look like that at 47 ...calorie control, moving more and heavy lifting
I never thought I could, was resigned to middle age...a born couch potato and loved my food. Which is why I know that a low carb diet because you're an "older" woman and for no real reason is inappropriate woo advice
If I could, you can
Good luck
Thank you! Your words give me hope.0
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