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Daily weigh inn peeps I have a question

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  • jacklifts
    jacklifts Posts: 396 Member
    jacklifts wrote: »
    Try weighing yourself every night as well before sleep under the same conditions. Then you'll see what your morning-night spread is, and won't be surprised the next morning if you're up a few pounds.

    Thanks I am going to try this also I plan on breaking down for one of the fat% scales that I want but just haven't talked myself into the cost yet I am hoping that would help as well.

    I'm not a scale expert, but I'm read the electrical impedance thing is fairly inaccurate, being influenced heavily by water fluctuations. So if you are fluctuating more than usual due to water, the body fat percent recent is going to be even more off. I've tried doing waist measurements as well daily, but I've found those also fluctuate with water retention, food in the belly, etc. I haven't tried using myotape which might be more accurate, or any pincher type devices. If money is an issue, I'd just use the scale you have and take twice daily weights for a while. See what happens.

  • DeguelloTex
    DeguelloTex Posts: 6,652 Member
    scolaris wrote: »
    Adult human walkers can burn about 100 calories a mile if they go at a pretty fast clip or tackle a challenging steep grade.
    There's also a runners world formula based on your weight...
    Here:
    .30 X weight in pounds X distance in miles = walking calories burned
    I love walking and do a ton of it. But don't overestimate your burn. If it's any consolation, the insanity & Zumba people probably aren't burning what they want to believe either.
    Either adult human walkers weigh 333 pounds or the Runner's World formula is quite inconsistent with your first sentence. Or they're both wrong.

    I think I burn about 150 net calories per mile, which is relatively in line with your first sentence given my size and the average person's size.

    I do agree with the general premise about inflated burns from walking, though.
  • purplishblue
    purplishblue Posts: 135 Member
    The things I keep in mind for myself are 1) The week/week and a half before my period my weight will be up due to bloating, and 2) I have IBS which definitely makes the scale fluctuate. What I do is only log what my lowest weight is, so over time I can see the .5-1lb a week drop, and not get discouraged by the higher weights.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    It is normal to fluctuate up to five pounds in a single day. This is not fat gained and lost. It's primarily water gained and lost. From my experience the big influencers are salt, exercise, and progesterone (spike just before my monthly). A small influencer is my daily bowel movement (not quite a pound).

    Which weight do you trust? Record them all and only remember the lower numbers. The truth is in the average.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    I should have said is that salt, exercise, and progesterone all three will spike my weight. The exercise is from muscles swollen a bit after a sudden increase.
  • daniwilford
    daniwilford Posts: 1,030 Member
    I keep a spread sheet that tracks my new lightest weight since I started my current tracking in March, along my side my daily weight. A lightest weight can stand for a week or more before a new one takes it's place. On average, I have lost 1% of my body weight per week. So when I was over 200 pounds I would lose 2 or more pounds a week. Now that I am in the 170's I lose closer to 1 pound per week on average. In the beginning I was more concerned with speed, but as I have studied successful losers and maintainers, I have discovered that it is the general direction and not the speed that make the difference. My weight goes up and down but I have never gone a month without an loss. Trust the process, if you are eating at a deficit you will lose.
  • brb2008
    brb2008 Posts: 406 Member
    257_Lag wrote: »
    If you are going to weigh daily you really should chart it daily so you can see the trend line. That's what is important. Plenty of phone apps for this. I use Libra.
    3jc2hvtonvof.jpg

    Do you know if I can manually enter data for like two weeks when I first get the app? Cause I have the data in my fitbit but want to know about the past two weeks as well.
  • scolaris
    scolaris Posts: 2,145 Member
    @DeguelloTex: I agree the runners world formula looks like a lowball. They also calculate running (even jogging) at .60 on that same metric and I'm not convinced super slow joggers burn much more than very brisk walkers.
    All I was pointing out is that ANY formula that says you can burn 1000 calories walking under 4 miles sounds entirely too generous & that person might want to look into some other formulas that are out there. I walk fast and I climb hills and I feel pretty comfortable giving myself 100 calories a mile. I walk 100k steps a week minimum & I give myself about 100 calories a mile for the fitness walking half of my week and more like 75 calories a mile for the substitute teaching half of my week, even though I'm pretty active there if you factor in PE & playground supervision, running after kids who dash away (special ed, so there are plenty of 'runners' in the autistic & emotionally disturbed populations who are working on impulse control) and just generally getting myself around campus with some urgency when I need to find the principal, get keys or look for equipment, etc.
    My 'proof' is that if I eat within my weekly calorie budget, walk my 100k steps, get in a little HIIT and body weight activities I lose weight exactly as I anticipated.
  • elisa123gal
    elisa123gal Posts: 4,363 Member
    I weighed myself this morning at 186 lbs. Went for my morning walk, burned off 1,172 calories after walking 3.64 miles. Weighed myself afterwards--184 lbs. Do I do my happy dance and log this in MFP? Or should I just stay with the the 186 lbs. that I logged at check-in this morning?

    I vote you put in your new low weight.. somehow you will manage to stay there and go beat it next time…
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,592 Member
    brb2008 wrote: »
    257_Lag wrote: »
    If you are going to weigh daily you really should chart it daily so you can see the trend line. That's what is important. Plenty of phone apps for this. I use Libra.
    3jc2hvtonvof.jpg

    Do you know if I can manually enter data for like two weeks when I first get the app? Cause I have the data in my fitbit but want to know about the past two weeks as well.

    Connect your fitbit to both www.weightgrapher.com and www.trendweight.com... AUTOMATICALLY you now have two... ready to go... no need to enter anything else.

    Enjoy :smiley:
  • brb2008
    brb2008 Posts: 406 Member
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    brb2008 wrote: »
    257_Lag wrote: »
    If you are going to weigh daily you really should chart it daily so you can see the trend line. That's what is important. Plenty of phone apps for this. I use Libra.
    3jc2hvtonvof.jpg

    Do you know if I can manually enter data for like two weeks when I first get the app? Cause I have the data in my fitbit but want to know about the past two weeks as well.

    Connect your fitbit to both www.weightgrapher.com and www.trendweight.com... AUTOMATICALLY you now have two... ready to go... no need to enter anything else.

    Enjoy :smiley:

    Nice! Thanks so much!
  • Karihappy
    Karihappy Posts: 116 Member
    I used to weigh every day, and it determined my mood. Lost weight, felt great. Gained weight, there went my day. Now I weigh once a week. It makes it fun cuz it always says I've lost, and it gives me something to look forward to and keeps me in line, as in no overeating before weigh day. :)
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    jacklifts wrote: »
    Try weighing yourself every night as well before sleep under the same conditions. Then you'll see what your morning-night spread is, and won't be surprised the next morning if you're up a few pounds.

    Thanks I am going to try this also I plan on breaking down for one of the fat% scales that I want but just haven't talked myself into the cost yet I am hoping that would help as well.

    Don't spend money for that. Those scales cannot tell what % of you is fat.

    The idea to weigh at night to help you get used to fluctuations isn't a bad one, but the body fat scales aren't worth it.
  • ladytwilight72
    ladytwilight72 Posts: 70 Member
    Sodium kills me...I have gained 4 to 5 lbs if I consume too much sodium...a day or two later it's poof gone
  • KareninLux
    KareninLux Posts: 1,413 Member
    I have a digital scale - Tanita BF679W Duo Scale Plus Body Fat Monitor with Body Water - and I love it! Available on Amazon. Naked weigh-in every morning after I go to the loo. Slow but sure downward trend - day by day - is very motivating!!
  • robertw486
    robertw486 Posts: 2,468 Member
    jacklifts wrote: »
    Try weighing yourself every night as well before sleep under the same conditions. Then you'll see what your morning-night spread is, and won't be surprised the next morning if you're up a few pounds.

    Thanks I am going to try this also I plan on breaking down for one of the fat% scales that I want but just haven't talked myself into the cost yet I am hoping that would help as well.

    Unless you buy a scale that uses Wifi to make your tracking to charts easier, the fat % really isn't worth the money IMO. We have one that does fat percentage and water percentage, and really they are a general guide at best. They are also influenced by a number of factors easily.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    My bf reading on my home scale is 31%

    Laughs

    My BF is actually around 23%
  • robertw486
    robertw486 Posts: 2,468 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    My bf reading on my home scale is 31%

    Laughs

    My BF is actually around 23%

    Now I don't feel so bad. I know mine isn't accurate by any means, but I don't think it's off 10-12% either.
  • beckygammon
    beckygammon Posts: 73 Member
    I weighed myself this morning at 186 lbs. Went for my morning walk, burned off 1,172 calories after walking 3.64 miles. Weighed myself afterwards--184 lbs. Do I do my happy dance and log this in MFP? Or should I just stay with the the 186 lbs. that I logged at check-in this morning?

    I always use a heart rate monitor to accurately calculate how much I burn because fitbits or gym machines or even just entering what you did into mfp can be inaccurate. That's not to say that your calorie burn wasn't 1172 depending on how hilly your route is and how high your heart rate gets it could be, we can't really judge, but just make sure it is accurate. Keep up the good work.
  • beckygammon
    beckygammon Posts: 73 Member
    scolaris wrote: »
    @DeguelloTex: I agree the runners world formula looks like a lowball. They also calculate running (even jogging) at .60 on that same metric and I'm not convinced super slow joggers burn much more than very brisk walkers.
    All I was pointing out is that ANY formula that says you can burn 1000 calories walking under 4 miles sounds entirely too generous & that person might want to look into some other formulas that are out there. I walk fast and I climb hills and I feel pretty comfortable giving myself 100 calories a mile. I walk 100k steps a week minimum & I give myself about 100 calories a mile for the fitness walking half of my week and more like 75 calories a mile for the substitute teaching half of my week, even though I'm pretty active there if you factor in PE & playground supervision, running after kids who dash away (special ed, so there are plenty of 'runners' in the autistic & emotionally disturbed populations who are working on impulse control) and just generally getting myself around campus with some urgency when I need to find the principal, get keys or look for equipment, etc.
    My 'proof' is that if I eat within my weekly calorie budget, walk my 100k steps, get in a little HIIT and body weight activities I lose weight exactly as I anticipated.

    As a previous super slow jogger with a heart rate monitor I can say that jogging, even super slow, burns more calories than walking briskly. Not saying that other people might be different, but this was definitely my experience. :smile: Thanks for all your advice and for sharing your experiences. :smile:
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    edited November 2015
    I weighed myself this morning at 186 lbs. Went for my morning walk, burned off 1,172 calories after walking 3.64 miles. Weighed myself afterwards--184 lbs. Do I do my happy dance and log this in MFP? Or should I just stay with the the 186 lbs. that I logged at check-in this morning?

    No you didn't. Maybe 3-400 calories ..do not eat back 1172 calories because that is ridiculous
    I always use a heart rate monitor to accurately calculate how much I burn because fitbits or gym machines or even just entering what you did into mfp can be inaccurate. That's not to say that your calorie burn wasn't 1172 depending on how hilly your route is and how high your heart rate gets it could be, we can't really judge, but just make sure it is accurate. Keep up the good work.

    A HRM is only for steady state cardio...no use for walking, no use for gym
  • Fursian
    Fursian Posts: 583 Member
    wrote: »
    A HRM is only for steady state cardio...no use for walking, no use for gym

    Hi @rabbitjb, forgive me this seemingly dense question, but what is considered "steady state" cardio? I hear it a lot, but it isn't really expanded upon.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Exercises that are aerobic in nature and that are performed at intensities between 40% of VO2 max and the lactate threshold

    Running, rowing, cycling

    Not interval training though
  • Fursian
    Fursian Posts: 583 Member
    Thanks, @rabbitjb! :)
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    edited November 2015
    I weighed myself this morning at 186 lbs. Went for my morning walk, burned off 1,172 calories after walking 3.64 miles. Weighed myself afterwards--184 lbs. Do I do my happy dance and log this in MFP? Or should I just stay with the the 186 lbs. that I logged at check-in this morning?

    I always use a heart rate monitor to accurately calculate how much I burn because fitbits or gym machines or even just entering what you did into mfp can be inaccurate. That's not to say that your calorie burn wasn't 1172 depending on how hilly your route is and how high your heart rate gets it could be, we can't really judge, but just make sure it is accurate. Keep up the good work.
    @beckygammon
    HRM do not accurately calculate calorie expenditure - they can only estimate under a fairly limited set of circumstances.
    They can accurately measure heart rate and that's it. The gym machines you assume are wrong could well be more accurate, especially if they measure power output. Where HRMs have an advantage when used appropriately is in consistency - not accuracy.

    Think of two 200lb people walking 4 miles. One is fit and has a low HR, one is unfit and has a high HR - they will both burn almost identical amount of calories despite what their HRMs might say.
  • JamestheLiar
    JamestheLiar Posts: 148 Member
    The true value of daily weighing is the ability to follow the trend. If you weigh in once per week, how would you know if you are on a day that accurately represents your true weight? What if weigh in day happens to fluctuate up four pounds, or down four pounds. How would you know? If knowledge is power, what possible use is there in hiding from knowledge?
  • prettyleelee
    prettyleelee Posts: 236 Member
    edited November 2015
    sijomial wrote: »
    I weighed myself this morning at 186 lbs. Went for my morning walk, burned off 1,172 calories after walking 3.64 miles. Weighed myself afterwards--184 lbs. Do I do my happy dance and log this in MFP? Or should I just stay with the the 186 lbs. that I logged at check-in this morning?

    I always use a heart rate monitor to accurately calculate how much I burn because fitbits or gym machines or even just entering what you did into mfp can be inaccurate. That's not to say that your calorie burn wasn't 1172 depending on how hilly your route is and how high your heart rate gets it could be, we can't really judge, but just make sure it is accurate. Keep up the good work.
    @beckygammon
    HRM do not accurately calculate calorie expenditure - they can only estimate under a fairly limited set of circumstances.
    They can accurately measure heart rate and that's it. The gym machines you assume are wrong could well be more accurate, especially if they measure power output. Where HRMs have an advantage when used appropriately is in consistency - not accuracy.

    Think of two 200lb people walking 4 miles. One is fit and has a low HR, one is unfit and has a high HR - they will both burn almost identical amount of calories despite what their HRMs might say.

    I know that I am still new to this however wouldn't and shouldn't the unhealthy one burn more as his body is working harder to do those 4 miles than the one who is more fit?
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    sijomial wrote: »
    I weighed myself this morning at 186 lbs. Went for my morning walk, burned off 1,172 calories after walking 3.64 miles. Weighed myself afterwards--184 lbs. Do I do my happy dance and log this in MFP? Or should I just stay with the the 186 lbs. that I logged at check-in this morning?

    I always use a heart rate monitor to accurately calculate how much I burn because fitbits or gym machines or even just entering what you did into mfp can be inaccurate. That's not to say that your calorie burn wasn't 1172 depending on how hilly your route is and how high your heart rate gets it could be, we can't really judge, but just make sure it is accurate. Keep up the good work.
    @beckygammon
    HRM do not accurately calculate calorie expenditure - they can only estimate under a fairly limited set of circumstances.
    They can accurately measure heart rate and that's it. The gym machines you assume are wrong could well be more accurate, especially if they measure power output. Where HRMs have an advantage when used appropriately is in consistency - not accuracy.

    Think of two 200lb people walking 4 miles. One is fit and has a low HR, one is unfit and has a high HR - they will both burn almost identical amount of calories despite what their HRMs might say.

    I know that I am still new to this however wouldn't and shouldn't the unhealthy one burn more as his body is working harder to do those 4 miles than the one who is more fit?

    Not at all - calories are simply units of energy and relate to the physics of moving mass over distance.
    Feeling hard has zero to do with it.
  • robertw486
    robertw486 Posts: 2,468 Member
    sijomial wrote: »
    sijomial wrote: »
    I weighed myself this morning at 186 lbs. Went for my morning walk, burned off 1,172 calories after walking 3.64 miles. Weighed myself afterwards--184 lbs. Do I do my happy dance and log this in MFP? Or should I just stay with the the 186 lbs. that I logged at check-in this morning?

    I always use a heart rate monitor to accurately calculate how much I burn because fitbits or gym machines or even just entering what you did into mfp can be inaccurate. That's not to say that your calorie burn wasn't 1172 depending on how hilly your route is and how high your heart rate gets it could be, we can't really judge, but just make sure it is accurate. Keep up the good work.
    @beckygammon
    HRM do not accurately calculate calorie expenditure - they can only estimate under a fairly limited set of circumstances.
    They can accurately measure heart rate and that's it. The gym machines you assume are wrong could well be more accurate, especially if they measure power output. Where HRMs have an advantage when used appropriately is in consistency - not accuracy.

    Think of two 200lb people walking 4 miles. One is fit and has a low HR, one is unfit and has a high HR - they will both burn almost identical amount of calories despite what their HRMs might say.

    I know that I am still new to this however wouldn't and shouldn't the unhealthy one burn more as his body is working harder to do those 4 miles than the one who is more fit?

    Not at all - calories are simply units of energy and relate to the physics of moving mass over distance.
    Feeling hard has zero to do with it.

    I would somewhat disagree on this. In terms of energy, a calorie burned is a calorie burned. But in terms of what the OP posted, I agree with what she stated. If a calorie was simply a calorie, HRMs would be of no use at all in weight loss plans. But in reality HRMs help factor in overall levels of fitness and how hard the persons body is working.

    Whether the heart rate is lower due to better cardiovascular condition, more efficient oxygen uptake and carbon dioxide removal, efficiency of motion or muscle groups, under steady state conditions the HRM is a major indicator of overall human effort required to achieve mechanical power.
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