So I would really like advice from others who deal with the same thing I am

one small step at a time. Remove some of the junk food & replace with something healthy. Get rid of anything that is junk food related in your home. If you still want something junky make sure you have to go out to get it & only buy small packs.
If you want to start eating & aren't hungry, go off and do something else, take a walk, anything to get away from the food.

I am the same. Two things have helped me the most.

Logging everything - the good, bad and the ugly. Seeing the total amount of calories was eye opening. Yes, I knew it was a ton of calories but didn't know it could be several days of maintenance calories for a teenage boy.

The second is getting right back at it if I blow it - not the next day necessarily - the next time I eat. Don't use already overeating to eat even more.

I don't have scientific proof but I think that it is easier for me to control if I walk at least 10k steps a day.

OP, do you have any hobby that requires clean hands and concentration? I'm not sure how effective this would be on you, but I've seen success from myself and my brother for reducing the urge of grabbing something to eat when we're not hungry. I play musical instrument and make plushie toys. During the busy seasons (performance coming or gifts for holidays) my hands are usually occupied and there are usually deadlines to meet; I can't really afford to "sacrifice" my clean hands for my mouth. It doesn't have to be what I did at all. My brother was busy enough playing video games, and, even though this is not a good thing to promote, he did get rid of the habit of binge eating by simply being too concentrated on the game (even skipped meals... not good though).

I agree with the above suggestion of getting rid of the junk food/ switch to something healthier, and having a hobby like that (clean hands and concentration) would just limit your ability to start eating and a good way to switch your focus when there's no sign that your body needs food.

niniundlapin wrote: »

OP, do you have any hobby that requires clean hands and concentration? I'm not sure how effective this would be on you, but I've seen success from myself and my brother for reducing the urge of grabbing something to eat when we're not hungry. I play musical instrument and make plushie toys. During the busy seasons (performance coming or gifts for holidays) my hands are usually occupied and there are usually deadlines to meet; I can't really afford to "sacrifice" my clean hands for my mouth. It doesn't have to be what I did at all. My brother was busy enough playing video games, and, even though this is not a good thing to promote, he did get rid of the habit of binge eating by simply being too concentrated on the game (even skipped meals... not good though).

I agree with the above suggestion of getting rid of the junk food/ switch to something healthier, and having a hobby like that (clean hands and concentration) would just limit your ability to start eating and a good way to switch your focus when there's no sign that your body needs food.

This, I've realized that part of the reason I've overwater in the past is due to boredom. So find a hobby or two and stick with it I use things like archery or writing or drawing and those keep my hands busy for a while and if I get in a mood where I'm just like "I want to snack on something and don't feel like doing anything else" I force myself to sit down for 10 min and work on something (because anyone can do something for 10 minutes right?) and usually I end up getting in to it and going for far longer

Eating low carb did nothing to help me quell boredom eating. I was so hungry on low carb; so many foods were forbidden that I found it depressing.

OP - it's the behavior surrounding food that drives you to over eat and feel out of control. It's not the food itself.

Perhaps you could slow down and explore why you're fixating on food. Is your calorie goal too aggressive? Are you bored? Could you change habits and do something completely different when you feel like over eating - go for a walk or run?

As someone put it in a book I read last week, "So you love food. Well, food is fuel. It's great that it's fuel, and it's great that it tastes good. It's natural that we love it. But look at your car: it needs gas. You love the fact that you put gas in it and it takes you where you need to go. That's fine. But do you love your gas so much that you fill the tank and then keep pouring gas onto the passenger seat?" Even good things have to have their place; then it's time for other things.

Logging everything helped me. Denial is impossible when the numbers stare at you in the face... but then you have to want it hard enough to stick to it...

Personally, I still love food, and I still think about food all the time, but instead of just going to the kitchen and getting it (ok, I still do that occasionally), I plan my next meals instead to make them as satisfying as possible so I'm less likely to find satisfaction in snacks or junk food.

Binge Eating Disorder is a serious thing that should be treated by a professional.

I have a feeling that's not what's going on in this thread.

Also? Yoga and stopping the emotional urge to overeat? You post that link on every thread and I'm sorry, but dig deeper into it and the studies it cites.

It's not yoga, per se. It's self compassion and a whole ball of wax with restrictive and guilty eating.

PeachyCarol wrote: »

Binge Eating Disorder is a serious thing that should be treated by a professional.

I have a feeling that's not what's going on in this thread.

Also? Yoga and stopping the emotional urge to overeat? You post that link on every thread and I'm sorry, but dig deeper into it and the studies it cites.

It's not yoga, per se. It's self compassion and a whole ball of wax with restrictive and guilty eating.

This too.

bethclabburn wrote: »

It's all about your mind set. You have to think 'do I want that cookie or do I want to see results' you need to stop seeing food as a pleasure and to see it as fueling your body. You aren't eating this diet food for it to taste good, you're eating it see results.

There's times I could just sit and so much cheese and cake but I don't because I want results, the reason I'm unhappy and turn to food is because of the way I look so just to break that is a huge step

I find exercising really helps and drinking plenty of water, I mean litres of it.

Besides after working so hard why would you want to ruin it just for a biscuit or some chocolate.

Trust me it's not worth it, the human body is capable of incredible things just push yourself

I disagree with this. Binge eating is a disorder that need professional attention. Food shaming does no good.

This is not about seeing weight loss results either.

I know exactly what you are going through (way too well). Just know it will get better. The first thing that helped me take a step in the right direction was acknowledging that I couldn't live like that anymore--in fact, it was causing me so much emotional distress it would make me binge out even more. I knew that I couldn't base each and every day of my life around binges. It soon got extremely tiring. It got to the point where I would sneak foods into my room, hide them in my closet, under my bed, or I would go into the kitchen really late at night and steal food while everyone else in my house was sleeping. I noticed I was putting on a lot of weight and it made me hate myself. I would always be thinking about food, always not able to control my eating, and I always felt miserable, desperate, and unordinary. I looked around at everyone near me and I saw them eating happily--especially the thinner ones--and I was wondering how on earth they could be that skinny while eating and not tempted to eat more than a single portion because I was having no success after many attempts at "watching" what I ate and would often go overboard with my eating and out of control.
Until one day I decided to change, as I knew something needed to. After binging the morning of Thanksgiving, knowing that I wouldn't be able to binge later in the evening because family would be over, then eating a lot of food at the actual Thanksgiving party, I felt so sick. I went to bed with an extremely full stomach, knowing that it would be digested in the morning for more binging sessions (like the usual). When I woke up, my stomach was still SO full. Keep in mind, even after 12 hours, it felt like I had just binged. I was feeling nauseous and almost felt like I wanted to throw up. I had things to do that day as well, and my digestion/stomach problems from the large binge the day before wasn't helping. This was the major turning point for me. I (finally) realized that binging was interfering my quality of life. As I walked down the aisles of the grocery store that day feeling bloated as ever, I felt like I had the word "shame" branded onto my forehead. I felt like I had "I'm a fat pig, I just binged" taped onto my shirt. I felt DISGUSTING. And I guess that was enough to work towards changing my disordered eating habits and (at least) trying to start afresh.
**It would be helpful to note that before I was binging/restricting I was full on restricting. About five months ago, I would restrict my calories to very, very, little throughout the day over the course of two months (800cal/day). Those days I was at my thinnest. My body couldn't take restricting anymore so I started to get these extreme cravings that I couldn't resist. My first binge session was two months into basically starving myself and it lead to SO MANY MORE. I was soon binging every single day (sometimes every other day if I tried to "stop," which only lead to an even bigger binge session the next day) for three months. I gained so much weight and was at my highest weight ever. I went from one extreme to the other: from starving myself to eating 3000+ calories per day. I was the most depressed in my life (and looked the worst I have in my life) and my body couldn't take it all anymore. I had to work to get over the "good" and "bad" foods mindset as well as the mindset that I couldn't eat over 500 calories per day (which ironically turned into 3000+ calories from a binge caused by my restriction mindset). I found out the cause of my binging episodes was because I wasn't eating enough (then binging later or the very next day) and I was focusing on restricting my calories. I would also suggest getting down to the root of your disordered eating. What emotions are causing these episodes? I know a hard one for me was not only the restriction of my calories, was my self-hate drove me into eating more and more. Counter-intuitive, but that's basically what binging is. Learn to love yourself SO MUCH that you want to lose weight the HEALTHY WAY and KEEP IT OFF. It doesn't happen overnight, but as each night passes, you will wake up in the morning SO much happier. **

Here's what I want you to take from this (at the least):
-Let your body guide you to the acceptance of your disordered eating. My body couldn't handle restricting or binging any longer (from being dizzy, nauseous, and cranky to bloating, constipation/loose stools (sorry for the TMI), and lack of energy/initiative to do ANYTHING. Once your body is ready to change, lead your mind to accept that change needs to happen in order to prevent your body from giving out on you again.
-DO NOT RESTRICT CALORIES OR LABEL FOODS TO BE "GOOD" OR "BAD." Set a APPROPRIATE calorie goal and eat WHATEVER you WANT (still try to add in healthful foods, though. Obviously, do not eat junk food for every single meal) for however many meals you want, as long as you are meeting your calorie goal at the end of the day and not going too much over. I would recommend setting this calorie goal at your maintenance amount for however long you need, just to let your body recover from the binging. It takes a larger toll on your body than you think (and hopefully soon you will realize the havoc it is wreaking on your body...It will also help you get used to a NORMAL and HEALTHY eating pattern--eating spread out throughout the day whenever you are starting to get hungry--rather than eating two days worth of food in one sitting. Once you are used to eating "normal," then you can lower your calorie goal by 100-300 calories. This way, you are losing enough weight to feel good, but not too much that you are getting cravings from restriction. Remember: good things don't come overnight. Be patient. This will especially help you heal mentally as well.
-LOVE the PROCCESS. I know I have such a far way to go with my own journey, but I really hope this helps you. I have changed so much (and you will start to as well, even the first few days of "normal" eating you'll feel AMAZING). Know that as the days move on you keep feeling better and better. There are some days where you may eat a little over your calorie goal (or even a lot over), but that doesn't mean you are "relapsing." As long as your mindset is in the right place, "normal" overeating won't set you farther away from your goals. Just work on your mindset, as your mentality is key in recovery. Good luck, feel free to message me if you have any questions xx

usmcmp wrote: »

bethclabburn wrote: »

It's all about your mind set. You have to think 'do I want that cookie or do I want to see results' you need to stop seeing food as a pleasure and to see it as fueling your body. You aren't eating this diet food for it to taste good, you're eating it see results.

There's times I could just sit and so much cheese and cake but I don't because I want results, the reason I'm unhappy and turn to food is because of the way I look so just to break that is a huge step

I find exercising really helps and drinking plenty of water, I mean litres of it.

Besides after working so hard why would you want to ruin it just for a biscuit or some chocolate.

Trust me it's not worth it, the human body is capable of incredible things just push yourself

Actually, the type of restriction you are talking about is detrimental to binge eaters. I say this as a binge eater who finally has it under control because I stopped restricting like you are suggesting. Another diet or rigid rules compounds binge eating and keeps the person in a binge and restriction cycle.

This. I do not believe in extreme restriction ,it often sets people up for failure. I think learning how to have cookies in moderation is a better way for long term success.

Stress eater here! Drinking a pint if sugar free squash has curbed my binging but I still allow for a snack size chocolate

AlabasterVerve wrote: »

That drive to eat and keep eating was a physical thing for me. A fairly strict low carb, high fat whole food based diet switched it off like a light switch. Over the years I've found exercise and periodic fasting to be helpful as well -- especially around the holidays when I indulge in foods that cause cravings and an insatiable appetite. But mainly I need to eat LCHF diet in order to have a normal appetite.

Me too. I think it's human nature to eat one cookie and then want more....and more. This was the case for me. I used to have treats here and there but it would turn into a feeding frenzy. I just had to ask myself,do you want to be fat, or do you wanna keep eating junk. I'm not the type that can eat a little and move on. My body goes crazy with sugar and carbohydrates so the diet change was key. Plus I read a book called "Brain over Binge." The author of the book really puts this into perspective from her point of view. I suggest it.