Disgusted with myself

incisron
incisron Posts: 550 Member
edited November 2024 in Health and Weight Loss
I promised myself I'd do a month of trying to stay within calories and no "cheats." After a week and a half, I had a higher calorie meal and a couple desserts on Thanksgiving and then fell out of routine for two more days. I could have stuck to routine if id had willpower, but I was weak and lazy. I've also put on water weight that id lost in the previous week.
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  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
    incisron wrote: »
    I promised myself I'd do a month of trying to stay within calories and no "cheats." After a week and a half, I had a higher calorie meal and a couple desserts on Thanksgiving and then fell out of routine for two more days. I could have stuck to routine if id had willpower, but I was weak and lazy. I've also put on water weight that id lost in the previous week.

    Log it and carry on.

    Congrats on losing 20 of your goal of 40 lbs! That's great!

    "Don't let a stumble in the road be the end of it."

    Also, if you're looking for tips, can I ask what your weekly goal is set to? Is it too aggressive, perhaps?
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    Start tomorrow. It will be okay!! That happens to a lot of people. Just don't let a couple of bad days turn into a couple of bad weeks. Get back to it
  • blankiefinder
    blankiefinder Posts: 3,599 Member
    Who cares about water weight? It comes and goes. What matters is fat loss. Don't deny yourself the occasional treat and it might lessen your cravings. My motto when I was losing here was 'If you're tired of starting over, stop giving up!' Maybe that saying will help you, too. http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10257474/starting-out-restarting-basics-inside#latest
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    edited November 2015
    I think if you try to look at it too black and white, it's really easy to not make that mark every single day and then get down on yourself for not being perfect. Perfection (no cheats, never over) is a lot to ask from anyone. Would you tell a friend who didn't stick to their plan 100% that you are disgusted with them? If not, why is it okay to say this to yourself?

    Honestly, the easiest place to start it to say that you will log consistently for this week. The good, the bad, the ugly. Just log it. Then do it again next week. Evaluate your goal and progress, but don't be so hard on yourself. The days you have logged are less than 700. Are you logging everything, or is this your plan? Consistently eating that low can certainly lead to binge/restrict cycles, along with a whole host of medical issues. You really should reevaluate this plan, and get some help setting up a plan which is sustainable for the long-term.

    Your comment about regaining water weight... water weight is an illusion, it causes spikes and drops. Losing/gaining water weight is not the same as fat.

    See your doctor, show him your diary, and ask for a referral to a dietician.
  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,446 Member
    edited November 2015
    What's your weekly weight loss goal? Maybe it's too aggressive. If it's -2lbs/week, go to -1 or -0.5lbs a week, much more doable.

    And/or (hopefully and), you could increase your protein, fat, and fibre targets to see if that helps you feel more full.

    Those two things can help a lot. You don't have to be hungry to lose weight. (And having a hard time with an aggressive deficit doesn't mean you lack will power. It means you're hungry. So try either eating more, or changing the food a bit.)
  • mamainthekitchen
    mamainthekitchen Posts: 929 Member
    Just log it, don't stop logging and carry on!
  • pirate_john_75
    pirate_john_75 Posts: 96 Member
    It's Thanksgivng -- you're SUPPOSED to gorge!

    http://theoatmeal.com/comics/thanksgiving
  • incisron
    incisron Posts: 550 Member
    Thanks, every1. Thinking over the advice.
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    incisron wrote: »
    Thanks, every1. Thinking over the advice.

    Seriously consider your plan and how much you are consuming. If you are actually aiming to eat less than 700, there are serious health risks.
  • PrizePopple
    PrizePopple Posts: 3,133 Member
    nutmegoreo wrote: »
    incisron wrote: »
    Thanks, every1. Thinking over the advice.

    Seriously consider your plan and how much you are consuming. If you are actually aiming to eat less than 700, there are serious health risks.

    I really really hope all those days I saw were just not complete. 4 Pillsbury crescents and 12 oz of iced tea and 8 oz of grape juice don't make a single meal let alone a whole day. No protein, no fiber ... you're going to cause yourself very serious health problems. If your logged days are in fact accurate I suggest you seek professional help because that combined with feeling "disgusted" with yourself are massive red flags.
  • incisron
    incisron Posts: 550 Member
    I eat more than 1000, I just don't log everything as some of the food I ear isn't cooked by me. :)
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,599 Member
    Hon, this kind of thinking is exactly why it's taken me so many tries to get it right. I set these hard and fast rules, and then "failed", got all down on myself, kicked myself about and gave up because it was too hard. You don't need to be perfect. To succeed, you just need to make more good decisions than bad. A day over won't derail you, and in fact can keep you sane but really negative self talk and hard and fast rules CAN derail you and can do very little for that whole sane thing ;)
  • robertw486
    robertw486 Posts: 2,449 Member
    It's a day or two and not the end of the world. Log them, get back up, and continue on. Nobody gaining weight gained it in a day, and we aren't going to lose it in a day either.

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    The above is from my diary. I continued on a downward weight trend. And yes that's a single day!
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    incisron wrote: »
    I eat more than 1000, I just don't log everything as some of the food I ear isn't cooked by me. :)

    If this is the case, then it's going to be very difficult for you to determine how much you are actually eating to evaluate the effectiveness and suitability of you plan. How much are you losing each week (not considering your current water weight gain)?
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    nutmegoreo wrote: »
    incisron wrote: »
    Thanks, every1. Thinking over the advice.

    Seriously consider your plan and how much you are consuming. If you are actually aiming to eat less than 700, there are serious health risks.

    I really really hope all those days I saw were just not complete. 4 Pillsbury crescents and 12 oz of iced tea and 8 oz of grape juice don't make a single meal let alone a whole day. No protein, no fiber ... you're going to cause yourself very serious health problems. If your logged days are in fact accurate I suggest you seek professional help because that combined with feeling "disgusted" with yourself are massive red flags.

    Those were my thoughts too.
  • PrizePopple
    PrizePopple Posts: 3,133 Member
    Looking at your posting history, specifically over your mild freak out over a Pillsbury cinnamon roll ... I'm going to stick with the seeking professional help answer.
  • jennifer_417
    jennifer_417 Posts: 12,344 Member
    Maybe it would've been a bit easier if you hadn't picked November? Give yourself as much chance at succeeding as possible, but learn to accept that, at times, you will fail. You'll need to do both if you want to succeed in the long run.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    The most helpful thing I figured out when starting this time (back in Jan '14) was that it's not helpful to try to be perfect and it's not helpful to beat yourself up if you aren't. Small changes can be the most important ones, and accepting that I'm human and that a screw up is a learning experience, not a failure (let alone a failure that ruins everything), makes it so much easier to just keep going. I'd bet that the all or nothing approach is making this a lot harder for you. Being less strict but consistent gets you to goal faster than trying to be impossibly perfect and then (in your mind) failing and going way off plan for days, and it also avoids feeling horrible about the "failures" (in your own mind).

    Also, as others have said, if you are agonizing over the occasional higher cal day or treat, maybe it is time to talk to a professional about your relationship with food. Getting into a cycle of being super strict and then the opposite is likely to mess you up if you continue with it.
  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
    incisron wrote: »
    I promised myself I'd do a month of trying to stay within calories and no "cheats." After a week and a half, I had a higher calorie meal and a couple desserts on Thanksgiving and then fell out of routine for two more days. I could have stuck to routine if id had willpower, but I was weak and lazy. I've also put on water weight that id lost in the previous week.

    Quit spanking yourself. Log it and move on. :)
  • bpetrosky
    bpetrosky Posts: 3,911 Member
    edited November 2015
    incisron wrote: »
    I promised myself I'd do a month of trying to stay within calories and no "cheats." After a week and a half, I had a higher calorie meal and a couple desserts on Thanksgiving and then fell out of routine for two more days. I could have stuck to routine if id had willpower, but I was weak and lazy. I've also put on water weight that id lost in the previous week.

    Quit spanking yourself. Log it and move on. :)

    This. A fleeting dalliance with a piece of food isn't worth the angst. Reserve that for something important, like finances or significant others.
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    Yeah. I was weak and lazy on Thanksgiving and the day after too. I had goals, and I failed. But I plan on living many more years and 3 days is a drop in the bucket. You realize you can start again today, right?
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,055 Member
    incisron wrote: »
    I eat more than 1000, I just don't log everything as some of the food I eat isn't cooked by me. :)

    Do log everything, to the best of your ability.
  • JustMissTracy
    JustMissTracy Posts: 6,338 Member
    incisron wrote: »
    I eat more than 1000, I just don't log everything as some of the food I ear isn't cooked by me. :)

    On days like this, guess. It's better and truer than leaving it blank, and at least you can start to see the trends happening like weight, protein, calories....those are great to watch after the first 3 weeks or so....you can do this. Its in you, it's ON you....don't worry about the odd day here and there, as said above, there's gonna be many more days left in your life, a few are really just a drop in the bucket......Good luck!
  • scolaris
    scolaris Posts: 2,145 Member
    Yes, that nasty self talk & all or nothing thinking is going to hurt your permanent weight loss prospects far more than a few hundred calories one way or the other. You need to treat your sweet self with kindness, compassion and dignity! We ALL go over & have bad days; the most successful among us dust ourselves off & move forward without too much self loathing or dire thinking. xo
  • UltraHealthSeeker
    UltraHealthSeeker Posts: 21 Member
    I struggle with an all-or-nothing mentality at times also, and I find that when I have an all-or-nothing attitude I usually end up with nothing! So yes, start right now and make your first commitment to "log all your food" on MFP. If you are eating out or eating at a friend's house, simply take a quick picture of your plate, and that night simply give it your best guess on the quantities based on your picture, not your memory. =)

    The biggest thing that helped me was to change my focus, and adopt "positive" goals and not "negative" ones. In the past, when I would start a "diet" (and subsequently "fail") my mentality was a DIET mentality, it was based on something I wanted to get OUT of my life (the fat) and was usually begun because I was in emotional pain or conflict that I wanted to GET AWAY from. As it would always happen, I'd be PERFECT for awhile, and then the emotional pain and conflict would LESSEN, and I would get more comfortable and "happier" and thus the motivating factor that had me start the program (the pain and conflict) would ease up. This would cause me to begin to "slip" off my program, I never seemed to be able to actually GET to my goal!

    Then I read a book called "Dr. A's Habits of Health" by Dr. Wayne Scott Andersen and his philosophy of creating optimal health (instead of "dieting") really stuck with me. I began to look FORWARD at what I could create with the process of committing to a program that would see me through, and I let the excitement and anticipation of what was coming (optimal health) motivate me. In essence, I changed my goal from a negative one (something I wanted OUT of my life) to a positive one (something awesome I could bring INTO my life as a result of becoming optimally healthy) and it really saw me through the tougher times because I wanted health MORE than I wanted the off-plan food items.

    I hope this helps!
  • Psychgrrl
    Psychgrrl Posts: 3,177 Member
    There's no reason to deprive yourself like that! You want to build sustainable habits and keep the weight off, and that means finding a way to incorporate the"cheat" foods into your regular diet.

    And everyone's going to go over their calorie limit some days. Nobody's perfect. Would you berate your best friend like you're flagellating yourself? Nope? Then treat yourself just as kindly! You deserve the same support and compassion you'd give to anyone else. :blush:

    Weight-loss is a marathon, not a sprint. Hang in there!
  • rankinsect
    rankinsect Posts: 2,238 Member
    edited November 2015
    incisron wrote: »
    I promised myself I'd do a month of trying to stay within calories and no "cheats." After a week and a half, I had a higher calorie meal and a couple desserts on Thanksgiving and then fell out of routine for two more days. I could have stuck to routine if id had willpower, but I was weak and lazy. I've also put on water weight that id lost in the previous week.

    The problem isn't really your eating. Three days of overeating won't physically derail your weight loss, assuming you're not going over by tens of thousands of calories. The problem is your reaction to your eating - you're the one allowing this to mentally derail your weight loss.

    You won't be perfect. Thankfully, you don't need to be. You don't need a perfect score on your calorie "report card" to lose weight. You don't even need a very good score to pass. You only need to be good enough. You don't gain or lose any significant amount of weight in one day or three days - it's about the combined effects of one hundred or three hundred days that are what you really care about.

    I went over on Thanksgiving too - I knew I would, and I just tried to keep it within reason, which is what I do on any holiday or special occasion. In the very worst case scenario, if I really overate, it might delay reaching my final goal by a day or two. Not the end of the world, since holidays and special occasions are vastly outnumbered by normal days.
  • Mallybear2020
    Mallybear2020 Posts: 82 Member
    It was Thanksgiving, allow yourself that. Just get back on track and forget the few days of 'cheat dieting'
  • riffraff2112
    riffraff2112 Posts: 1,756 Member
    If you throw in the towel every time you have a bad day this is going to be tough for you, don't be so tough on yourself and realize a day or two in the long run is really not a big deal.
  • ElJefeChief
    ElJefeChief Posts: 650 Member
    Always log. If you eat at a restaurant or eat food someone has cooked for you, just estimate (and try and err on the side of overestimating) how much and what you ate. In my opinion, part of the reason why we log our food is to practice *awareness* when we eat. So, the process of logging, in my mind, is just as important as the outcome.

    Otherwise, like everyone else said, don't worry about going over a day or two, here or there. I will admit sometimes I do get stressed out about that myself, but really, it's not a big deal at all.

    True story - a couple weeks back I went over my calorie allotment by one of the most herculean amounts I have ever gone over since I started logging - I ended up logging over 7500 calories in a single day (a had a huge celebratory Cattlemen's meal with a friend, celebrating her retirement), and going over by about 4K.

    Do you know how much I gained after that? Exactly zero pounds. In fact, later that week I logged my lowest weight to date (186).
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