Water with meals
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GaleHawkins wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »@GaleHawkins do you filter the sources of these claims at all?
@jgnatca this source and others indicate drinking water and eating sugar with meals can be an issue for some people.
niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-topics/digestive-diseases/dumping-syndrome/Pages/facts.aspx
The majority of people with this syndrome have had gastric bypass surgery.
Yes which confirms drinking water/sugar (juice, etc) can impact digestion if we overfill our stomachs. No wonder drinking two glasses of sugar/water (coke, etc) can lead to digestive health issues for non gastric bypass people.
Wut. That's not what the article says at all.
Do have any evidence for these claims, or are you just making things up again.
While the article does address the drinking of water/sugar water with meals can cause digestion issues the MD source of only drinking a slip of water at meal time is below.
Dr. Hiromi Shinya, MD in his book The Enzyme Factor states to stop drinking water based drinks 30 minutes before meals and do not start back until 1.5 hours after meals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiromi_Shinya
Many may not realize it is not just the pH factor but the concentration of digestive enzymes are key to pevent becoming obese and sick. With good digestion of a good diet can help prevent most all types of diseases like heart disease, cancer, mental illness, etc.
Bottom of that page:
Scientific misconduct
Pseudoscience
Tondemo-bon - means "outrageous" or "preposterous" + bon "book" in Japanese. Recently the word has gained another meaning thanks to the activity of Togakkai (the Academy of Tondemo books) which annually award Nihon Tondemo-bon Taisho (Japan Tondemo Book Award), which is similar to the Golden Raspberry Award or the Ig Nobel Prize. Tondemo-bon is defined by the academy as "something amusing from a perspective that differs from what the author intends." The award covers not just conspiracy theory or pseudoscience but also includes historical revisionism as well as atheists or scientific sceptics who make rather biased attacks toward the former. The members of Togakkai included religious figures as well as scientists and other academics. In Japan, this genre has superseded similar activities of scientific sceptics.0 -
vivmom2014 wrote: »Sitting down to a meal without a tall glass of water would be like sitting down to a meal without a napkin -- unthinkable. For me.
I feel the same way. I never realized so many people ate without drinking -- it's unthinkable to me. When I have to eat on a plane and they give the food before the beverages I always sit there with my food untouched until the beverage comes, because I need my water. (Like I said, I hadn't realized this was weird. Oh, well.)0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »With good digestion of a good diet can help prevent most all types of diseases like heart disease, cancer, mental illness, etc.
Please. Don't go there.
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Do you know what's helped my digestive issues? Drinking 16-24 fl oz of water as I eat with every meal. Not only do I have less abdominal pain, I feel more full with less food.
Our bodies need water to work properly.0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »@GaleHawkins do you filter the sources of these claims at all?
@jgnatca this source and others indicate drinking water and eating sugar with meals can be an issue for some people.
niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-topics/digestive-diseases/dumping-syndrome/Pages/facts.aspx
The majority of people with this syndrome have had gastric bypass surgery.
Yes which confirms drinking water/sugar (juice, etc) can impact digestion if we overfill our stomachs. No wonder drinking two glasses of sugar/water (coke, etc) can lead to digestive health issues for non gastric bypass people.
Wut. That's not what the article says at all.
Do have any evidence for these claims, or are you just making things up again.
While the article does address the drinking of water/sugar water with meals can cause digestion issues the MD source of only drinking a slip of water at meal time is below.
Dr. Hiromi Shinya, MD in his book The Enzyme Factor states to stop drinking water based drinks 30 minutes before meals and do not start back until 1.5 hours after meals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiromi_Shinya
Many may not realize it is not just the pH factor but the concentration of digestive enzymes are key to pevent becoming obese and sick. With good digestion of a good diet can help prevent most all types of diseases like heart disease, cancer, mental illness, etc.
Dude, there's a whole paragraph with a big headline over it basically saying his claims are as solid as hydrogen.0 -
EvgeniZyntx wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »@GaleHawkins do you filter the sources of these claims at all?
@jgnatca this source and others indicate drinking water and eating sugar with meals can be an issue for some people.
niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-topics/digestive-diseases/dumping-syndrome/Pages/facts.aspx
The majority of people with this syndrome have had gastric bypass surgery.
Yes which confirms drinking water/sugar (juice, etc) can impact digestion if we overfill our stomachs. No wonder drinking two glasses of sugar/water (coke, etc) can lead to digestive health issues for non gastric bypass people.
Wut. That's not what the article says at all.
Do have any evidence for these claims, or are you just making things up again.
While the article does address the drinking of water/sugar water with meals can cause digestion issues the MD source of only drinking a slip of water at meal time is below.
Dr. Hiromi Shinya, MD in his book The Enzyme Factor states to stop drinking water based drinks 30 minutes before meals and do not start back until 1.5 hours after meals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiromi_Shinya
Many may not realize it is not just the pH factor but the concentration of digestive enzymes are key to pevent becoming obese and sick. With good digestion of a good diet can help prevent most all types of diseases like heart disease, cancer, mental illness, etc.
Bottom of that page:
Scientific misconduct
Pseudoscience
Tondemo-bon - means "outrageous" or "preposterous" + bon "book" in Japanese. Recently the word has gained another meaning thanks to the activity of Togakkai (the Academy of Tondemo books) which annually award Nihon Tondemo-bon Taisho (Japan Tondemo Book Award), which is similar to the Golden Raspberry Award or the Ig Nobel Prize. Tondemo-bon is defined by the academy as "something amusing from a perspective that differs from what the author intends." The award covers not just conspiracy theory or pseudoscience but also includes historical revisionism as well as atheists or scientific sceptics who make rather biased attacks toward the former. The members of Togakkai included religious figures as well as scientists and other academics. In Japan, this genre has superseded similar activities of scientific sceptics.
I didn't even read that far, that's even better.0 -
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I usually have a low sodium V8 with breakfast, water with lunch, and wine with dinner...sometimes beer, just depends on what we're having.0
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mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/digestion/faq-20058348
Here is a different MD view on the subject.0 -
Yeah, and it says:GaleHawkins wrote: »mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/digestion/faq-20058348
Here is a different MD view on the subject.
which is pretty much the opposite of what you were saying above, isn't it?There's no concern that water will dilute the digestive juices or interfere with digestion. In fact, drinking water during or after a meal actually aids digestion.
Water and other liquids help break down food so that your body can absorb the nutrients. Water also softens stool, which helps prevent constipation.0 -
Yeah, and it says:GaleHawkins wrote: »mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/digestion/faq-20058348
Here is a different MD view on the subject.
which is pretty much the opposite of what you were saying above, isn't it?There's no concern that water will dilute the digestive juices or interfere with digestion. In fact, drinking water during or after a meal actually aids digestion.
Water and other liquids help break down food so that your body can absorb the nutrients. Water also softens stool, which helps prevent constipation.
Above I said what I had read in a book by a MD. This last quote was from what another MD. I do not know which MD is correct. It is my guess they are both correct and both are wrong in a general sense.0 -
Unless jam eating out/fast food/high sodium I don't drink when I eat. Not for any other reason then its just how I have always ate. If I'm eating I'm not really that thirsty.0
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Drinking a cup of water before eating a meal can help with issues like GERD and hiatal hernias. It sounds like woo but actually one preventive treatment, especially for the hernias, is to drink a cup of water and walk around a few minutes. It weighs the stomach down and prevents it from sliding up through the hiatus when food is added.
This.
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I feel like I've entered some weird Orwellian Twilight Zone of doublespeak where words no longer have meaning...0
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juggernaut1974 wrote: »I feel like I've entered some weird Orwellian Twilight Zone of doublespeak where words no longer have meaning...
You could be both right and wrong in saying that.0 -
Drinking a cup of water before eating a meal can help with issues like GERD and hiatal hernias. It sounds like woo but actually one preventive treatment, especially for the hernias, is to drink a cup of water and walk around a few minutes. It weighs the stomach down and prevents it from sliding up through the hiatus when food is added.
This.
or that. But not both or either of the each other of things.
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wut is love? 0 -
stevencloser wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »@GaleHawkins do you filter the sources of these claims at all?
@jgnatca this source and others indicate drinking water and eating sugar with meals can be an issue for some people.
niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-topics/digestive-diseases/dumping-syndrome/Pages/facts.aspx
The majority of people with this syndrome have had gastric bypass surgery.
Yes which confirms drinking water/sugar (juice, etc) can impact digestion if we overfill our stomachs. No wonder drinking two glasses of sugar/water (coke, etc) can lead to digestive health issues for non gastric bypass people.
Wut. That's not what the article says at all.
Do have any evidence for these claims, or are you just making things up again.
While the article does address the drinking of water/sugar water with meals can cause digestion issues the MD source of only drinking a slip of water at meal time is below.
Dr. Hiromi Shinya, MD in his book The Enzyme Factor states to stop drinking water based drinks 30 minutes before meals and do not start back until 1.5 hours after meals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiromi_Shinya
Many may not realize it is not just the pH factor but the concentration of digestive enzymes are key to pevent becoming obese and sick. With good digestion of a good diet can help prevent most all types of diseases like heart disease, cancer, mental illness, etc.
Dude, there's a whole paragraph with a big headline over it basically saying his claims are as solid as hydrogen.
Solid as hydrogen? That was cold to say.
Gale's probably so cold, he causes heat damage /
he violates laws of thermodynamics.0 -
i drink while eating... coffee, water, beer, wine.. whatever i'm in the mood for... no problems here..0
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juggernaut1974 wrote: »I feel like I've entered some weird Orwellian Twilight Zone of doublespeak where words no longer have meaning...
This week on MFP. (And it's only Tuesday.)0 -
Confuzzled4ever wrote: »i drink while eating... coffee, water, beer, wine.. whatever i'm in the mood for... no problems here..
You drink while you eat coffee, water , beer, and wine? You are a wizard.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »
Yeah, and it says:GaleHawkins wrote: »mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/digestion/faq-20058348
Here is a different MD view on the subject.
which is pretty much the opposite of what you were saying above, isn't it?There's no concern that water will dilute the digestive juices or interfere with digestion. In fact, drinking water during or after a meal actually aids digestion.
Water and other liquids help break down food so that your body can absorb the nutrients. Water also softens stool, which helps prevent constipation.
Above I said what I had read in a book by a MD. This last quote was from what another MD. I do not know which MD is correct. It is my guess they are both correct and both are wrong in a general sense.
What are you trying to say?
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GaleHawkins wrote: »
Yeah, and it says:GaleHawkins wrote: »mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/digestion/faq-20058348
Here is a different MD view on the subject.
which is pretty much the opposite of what you were saying above, isn't it?There's no concern that water will dilute the digestive juices or interfere with digestion. In fact, drinking water during or after a meal actually aids digestion.
Water and other liquids help break down food so that your body can absorb the nutrients. Water also softens stool, which helps prevent constipation.
Above I said what I had read in a book by a MD. This last quote was from what another MD. I do not know which MD is correct. It is my guess they are both correct and both are wrong in a general sense.
That must be very confusing for you.0 -
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Baby don't hurt me.0 -
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Baby don't hurt me.
I read that and immediately thought "Can the child within my heart rise above?"0 -
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GaleHawkins wrote: »
Yeah, and it says:GaleHawkins wrote: »mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/digestion/faq-20058348
Here is a different MD view on the subject.
which is pretty much the opposite of what you were saying above, isn't it?There's no concern that water will dilute the digestive juices or interfere with digestion. In fact, drinking water during or after a meal actually aids digestion.
Water and other liquids help break down food so that your body can absorb the nutrients. Water also softens stool, which helps prevent constipation.
Above I said what I had read in a book by a MD. This last quote was from what another MD. I do not know which MD is correct. It is my guess they are both correct and both are wrong in a general sense.
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oyChihuahua wrote: »I find a glass of Single Malt scotch greatly enhances digestion.
...and tequila efficiently washes down peanut butter
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