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MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
I never said try other things BEFORE medication. I suggested in tandem with the medication.0 -
You know what you shouldn't build houses with? Glass, like you were doing with your last statement.MorganMoreaux wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
Do you have any idea of the hell of having an eating disorder and of the possible nuances involved in the OP's situation?
You are so against the use of anti-depressants that you have no idea what sort of time period her treatment team has in mind for her to be on them.
For now, getting a handle on her eating issues is the most important thing. Stabilizing her mood seems to be a priority for her treatment team. They are considering this approach, along with everything else they're doing.
READ HER INITIAL POST without your own personal bias coloring your response. Even in this reply, you sound as if she isn't in treatment at all. For goodness sake.
Yes, I have been in recovery from an eating disorder, so yes, I am familiar with what is involved. No, I am not against the use of antidepressants and have never said that I am, or that people should not take them. What I have said in various threads on these boards is that people should ALSO consider therapy and CBT. If someone is wanting to get healthy why should hey limit themselves to one tool when there are numerous tools available? Antidepressants are not a cure all, and they have their risks and limitations. If there is a chance that somebody can address their issues and make peace/come to terms with them, is that not better?
If you had to build a house would limit yourself to a hammer when you can have a hammer, screwdriver, saw, etc? Which set of tools would get the job done easier and better - the hammer by itself or having a full toolbox? Mental health is no different - why restrict yourself to one treatment when there are a wide variety of treatments that you can do in tandem?
As for your statement:
READ HER INITIAL POST without your own personal bias coloring your response. Even in this reply, you sound as if she isn't in treatment at all. For goodness sake.
Really? Your biases paired with mediocre comprehension skills make your responses unnecessarily hostile.
Where in anything PeachyCarol stated has she said avoid therapy or any treatment except for prozac. You're the one actively suggesting to avoid some methods of treatments, PeachyCarol's statements have left nothing off the table besides relying on treatment advise solely from an internet message board.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
I believe the rough breakdown is 1/3 of people respond to Prozac and most SSRI's as an appetite suppressant and 2/3's respond as an appetite increase...
+ a "was not on it long enough to notice an affect on appetite one way or the other as the side effects were so bad I quickly discontinued it."
My comment was on general population of people taking it, not this particular thread.0 -
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roblloyd89 wrote: »look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time.
Honestly I disagree. If a person truly has depression or anxiety issues its likely a chemical imbalance that needs to be remedied. For me antidepressants are a lifetime commitment to my mental health and I cant sing the praises of them enough for how much mine helps me.
You can build tolerances to some medications but my doctor has always explained to me that my dosage of my meds should be able to stay steady for life now that I have found the one I like best, which is Zoloft. I also found success on Wellbutrin and only switched because I couldnt take it at night (sleep disturbances) and I wanted to be able to take all my medications at the same time of day and night works best. So thats a question to ask, if it has potential to impact your daily schedule.
I say if your doctor is suggesting it, you could benefit from giving it a try. It takes several weeks to start working though. For me its always been about 2-3 weeks but can take up to 6-8 for full effectiveness
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MorganMoreaux wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
Do you have any idea of the hell of having an eating disorder and of the possible nuances involved in the OP's situation?
You are so against the use of anti-depressants that you have no idea what sort of time period her treatment team has in mind for her to be on them.
For now, getting a handle on her eating issues is the most important thing. Stabilizing her mood seems to be a priority for her treatment team. They are considering this approach, along with everything else they're doing.
READ HER INITIAL POST without your own personal bias coloring your response. Even in this reply, you sound as if she isn't in treatment at all. For goodness sake.
Yes, I have been in recovery from an eating disorder, so yes, I am familiar with what is involved. No, I am not against the use of antidepressants and have never said that I am, or that people should not take them. What I have said in various threads on these boards is that people should ALSO consider therapy and CBT. If someone is wanting to get healthy why should hey limit themselves to one tool when there are numerous tools available? Antidepressants are not a cure all, and they have their risks and limitations. If there is a chance that somebody can address their issues and make peace/come to terms with them, is that not better?
If you had to build a house would limit yourself to a hammer when you can have a hammer, screwdriver, saw, etc? Which set of tools would get the job done easier and better - the hammer by itself or having a full toolbox? Mental health is no different - why restrict yourself to one treatment when there are a wide variety of treatments that you can do in tandem?
As for your statement:
READ HER INITIAL POST without your own personal bias coloring your response. Even in this reply, you sound as if she isn't in treatment at all. For goodness sake.
Really? Your biases paired with mediocre comprehension skills make your responses unnecessarily hostile.
You know what you shouldn't build houses with? Glass, like you were doing with your last statement.
Where in anything PeachyCarol stated has she said avoid therapy or any treatment except for prozac. You're the one actively suggesting to avoid some methods of treatments, PeachyCarol's statements have left nothing off the table besides relying on treatment advise solely from an internet message board.
Lol - I would like to see someone try to build a house with glass (materials are not the same as tools, but thx for acknowledging you read my analogy).
Feel free to reread my statements. I never once said to avoid a method of treatment, I suggested that the OP look into additional treatment methods as well.0 -
OP - I've read thru this thread a number of times and see a lot of good information from experience. I hope you are able to get what you need from it.
Morganmoreaux's view of speaking with your team about all of the "tools" and using them is pretty sound advise. It looks as though some didn't read it carefully enough to see that. As with any health issue, follow the advise of your team of professionals. Always ask questions to get a full understanding of benefits and side effects.0 -
My daughter gained weight while on Prozac.0
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I thought I would throw in my 2 cents worth. Using MyFitnessPal I lost 140lbs when I was 18.... an amazing accomplishment.
After a series of terrible life events, I went in to deal with my constant depression and generalized anxiety. Prozac was the choice of my psychopharmacologist. It was amazing at stabilizing my mental "issues" but caused me to gain weight RAPIDLY.... and the way prozac remains in your system the weight gain continued long after the pill was gone.... Gained back 50lbs and now fighting to win back my body.
Its important to remember that these medications will effect everyone differently so speak with your doctors extensively... but it is true that other medications have less of a risk of the weight gain.
I hope this help, and feel free to add me, message me, anything if you need any support or have questions. I wish you the best with you weight loss and life adventures!0 -
MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.0 -
roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.
Wow, that is very very ignorant of you. A "mental" condition IS a physical condition. Just because you do not believe medication is needed does not mean it isn't.0 -
roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.
Wow, that is very very ignorant of you. A "mental" condition IS a physical condition. Just because you do not believe medication is needed does not mean it isn't.
Yeah, my brain is part of my body. Maybe his isn't?0 -
roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.
Wow, that is very very ignorant of you. A "mental" condition IS a physical condition. Just because you do not believe medication is needed does not mean it isn't.
You use that word a lot, you throw it around like you have authority and no what you're talking about it, no, a mental Condition is not a psychical condition, and to compare the 2 is simply ridiculous.
How can you compare multiple sclerosis to minor depression? It's simply absurd. Not everyone needs medication for depression, but everyone with multiple sclerosis does need medication.
You seem to have a continuous need to bash others posts, but don't have anything logical to suggest or advise.0 -
roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.
Wow, that is very very ignorant of you. A "mental" condition IS a physical condition. Just because you do not believe medication is needed does not mean it isn't.
Yeah, my brain is part of my body. Maybe his isn't?
Good for you, unless you're the hulk, most people don't get raging anger through a mental condition and then turn green through a physical condition.0 -
OP, I'd think if your Doctor does decide to prescribe Prozac it'd be recommended for you to report how it is working for you on a weekly or bi-weekly basis at the beginning. This will determine its effectiveness and if the dosage should be maintained, raised or lowered. You could mention if you notice weight gain or any other unwanted changes and the Doctor can adjust it accordingly. I do not think you'll be prescribed a drug and that'd be the end of it with no follow-up.
This comes from personal experience but not with Prozac. Keep taking of yourself and get well!0 -
roblloyd89 wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.
Wow, that is very very ignorant of you. A "mental" condition IS a physical condition. Just because you do not believe medication is needed does not mean it isn't.
You use that word a lot, you throw it around like you have authority and no what you're talking about it, no, a mental Condition is not a psychical condition, and to compare the 2 is simply ridiculous.
How can you compare multiple sclerosis to minor depression? It's simply absurd. Not everyone needs medication for depression, but everyone with multiple sclerosis does need medication.
You seem to have a continuous need to bash others posts, but don't have anything logical to suggest or advise.
What does this have to do with the OP? Her medical team feels that she needs medication to further her treatment.0 -
MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
Do you have any idea of the hell of having an eating disorder and of the possible nuances involved in the OP's situation?
You are so against the use of anti-depressants that you have no idea what sort of time period her treatment team has in mind for her to be on them.
For now, getting a handle on her eating issues is the most important thing. Stabilizing her mood seems to be a priority for her treatment team. They are considering this approach, along with everything else they're doing.
READ HER INITIAL POST without your own personal bias coloring your response. Even in this reply, you sound as if she isn't in treatment at all. For goodness sake.
Yes, I have been in recovery from an eating disorder, so yes, I am familiar with what is involved. No, I am not against the use of antidepressants and have never said that I am, or that people should not take them. What I have said in various threads on these boards is that people should ALSO consider therapy and CBT. If someone is wanting to get healthy why should hey limit themselves to one tool when there are numerous tools available? Antidepressants are not a cure all, and they have their risks and limitations. If there is a chance that somebody can address their issues and make peace/come to terms with them, is that not better?
If you had to build a house would limit yourself to a hammer when you can have a hammer, screwdriver, saw, etc? Which set of tools would get the job done easier and better - the hammer by itself or having a full toolbox? Mental health is no different - why restrict yourself to one treatment when there are a wide variety of treatments that you can do in tandem?
As for your statement:
READ HER INITIAL POST without your own personal bias coloring your response. Even in this reply, you sound as if she isn't in treatment at all. For goodness sake.
Really? Your biases paired with mediocre comprehension skills make your responses unnecessarily hostile.
You know what you shouldn't build houses with? Glass, like you were doing with your last statement.
Where in anything PeachyCarol stated has she said avoid therapy or any treatment except for prozac. You're the one actively suggesting to avoid some methods of treatments, PeachyCarol's statements have left nothing off the table besides relying on treatment advise solely from an internet message board.
Lol - I would like to see someone try to build a house with glass (materials are not the same as tools, but thx for acknowledging you read my analogy).
Feel free to reread my statements. I never once said to avoid a method of treatment, I suggested that the OP look into additional treatment methods as well.
"People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones," is what my comment was alluding to.0 -
roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.
Wow, that is very very ignorant of you. A "mental" condition IS a physical condition. Just because you do not believe medication is needed does not mean it isn't.
^This. roblloyd89, how do you think medication works if the mind is not a physical thing?0 -
roblloyd89 wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.
Wow, that is very very ignorant of you. A "mental" condition IS a physical condition. Just because you do not believe medication is needed does not mean it isn't.
You use that word a lot, you throw it around like you have authority and no what you're talking about it, no, a mental Condition is not a psychical condition, and to compare the 2 is simply ridiculous.
How can you compare multiple sclerosis to minor depression? It's simply absurd. Not everyone needs medication for depression, but everyone with multiple sclerosis does need medication.
You seem to have a continuous need to bash others posts, but don't have anything logical to suggest or advise.
Not everyone needs pain medication for a sprained wrist, not everyone needs it for a headache.
Can you please explain to me the chemical difference between the substance p that is produced in a depressive's brain, or in someone with a sprained wrist, or multiple sclerosis?0 -
I have not taken Prozac, but I have taken other psychoactive medications that have overeating as a side effect, and will need to take them for the rest of my life. Here are my thoughts:
Rely on your healthcare team, but be proactive in your own care. Make sure they know your concerns and keep them informed as to how the treatment is going
Use all tools at your disposal. It isn't necessarily a "one or the other situation". Many have excellent results using tools concurrently (for example, medication AND therapy). Therapy can even help you learn methods to counteract some of the medication's effects, if there are any. You may or may not be able to eventually eliminate one or more of those tools. That is a decision you, in tandem with your medical team, can decide based on your progress.
Everyone has an opinion. Rely on your informed judgement and medical team's suggestions
The medication I am taking does increase hunger, but it is not physical hunger. It makes my brain desire food even when the stomach is full. After 10 years of giving in, I am learning ways to deal with it and have had success, most of the time. My depression has evened out, but gets really bad if I go off the meds. I was in therapy for a while, but eventually there was nothing they could help me any more with. When you spend the entire session discussing movies and books, it is time to end the sessions. I did learn that I needed to reduce stress in my life and eventually got myself in a low stress position (basically applied for, and received Social Security Disability and found a part time low stress job to supplement it).
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roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.
Wow, that is very very ignorant of you. A "mental" condition IS a physical condition. Just because you do not believe medication is needed does not mean it isn't.
^This. roblloyd89, how do you think medication works if the mind is not a physical thing?
Huh? A mental condition is not caused by a deformed brain. Mental conditions are a combination of genetic and environmental factors. You can't compare a chemical imbalance to a broken toe.0 -
roblloyd89 wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.
Wow, that is very very ignorant of you. A "mental" condition IS a physical condition. Just because you do not believe medication is needed does not mean it isn't.
You use that word a lot, you throw it around like you have authority and no what you're talking about it, no, a mental Condition is not a psychical condition, and to compare the 2 is simply ridiculous.
How can you compare multiple sclerosis to minor depression? It's simply absurd. Not everyone needs medication for depression, but everyone with multiple sclerosis does need medication.
You seem to have a continuous need to bash others posts, but don't have anything logical to suggest or advise.
Not everyone needs pain medication for a sprained wrist, not everyone needs it for a headache.
Can you please explain to me the chemical difference between the substance p that is produced in a depressive's brain, or in someone with a sprained wrist, or multiple sclerosis?
For starters, chemical imbalances in those suffering from neurological disorders is not proven.0 -
PeachyCarol wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.
Wow, that is very very ignorant of you. A "mental" condition IS a physical condition. Just because you do not believe medication is needed does not mean it isn't.
You use that word a lot, you throw it around like you have authority and no what you're talking about it, no, a mental Condition is not a psychical condition, and to compare the 2 is simply ridiculous.
How can you compare multiple sclerosis to minor depression? It's simply absurd. Not everyone needs medication for depression, but everyone with multiple sclerosis does need medication.
You seem to have a continuous need to bash others posts, but don't have anything logical to suggest or advise.
What does this have to do with the OP? Her medical team feels that she needs medication to further her treatment.
I wasn't talking to the OP0 -
roblloyd89 wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.
Wow, that is very very ignorant of you. A "mental" condition IS a physical condition. Just because you do not believe medication is needed does not mean it isn't.
You use that word a lot, you throw it around like you have authority and no what you're talking about it, no, a mental Condition is not a psychical condition, and to compare the 2 is simply ridiculous.
How can you compare multiple sclerosis to minor depression? It's simply absurd. Not everyone needs medication for depression, but everyone with multiple sclerosis does need medication.
You seem to have a continuous need to bash others posts, but don't have anything logical to suggest or advise.
Ask any health care provider (which I am considered one) and they will tell you the same: a medical condition is a medical condition.0 -
roblloyd89 wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.
Wow, that is very very ignorant of you. A "mental" condition IS a physical condition. Just because you do not believe medication is needed does not mean it isn't.
^This. roblloyd89, how do you think medication works if the mind is not a physical thing?
Huh? A mental condition is not caused by a deformed brain. Mental conditions are a combination of genetic and environmental factors. You can't compare a chemical imbalance to a broken toe.
Actually, some mental conditions are precipitated by brain formation. Many anxiety disorders and impulse control disorders are being linked to an underdeveloped amygadala in some people.
Also, with respect to some of your previous statements, the mind may not necessarily be a physical entity if you are basing your reasoning on metaphysical principles, however, the mind is connected to the brain, which physically exists, so in many instances yes, you would treat the brain to facilitate treating the mind. While I am a huge supporter of therapy and CBT, there are many instances of mental health issues that are directly related to the brain, whether it be genetic, environmental, developmental, injury, etc. in those cases, medication may be the only thing that works, particularly if the area of the brain affects/regulates hormone production. Our knowledge is so limited in the neurosciences area, that there is no one cookie cutter treatment for mental illness. As I've said in these threads (and been grievously misunderstood) about people giving therapy a chance and not being dismissive to it, people also need to give medication a chance as well, and shouldn't be dismissive of that line of treatment either. I think doing both therapy and medication at the same time is an ideal situation. The is no one solution that works for everyone, and for people seeking treatment it is imperative that they keep an open mind to what is available. Equally as important, they need to do their research as well to understand the pros and cons of each treatment method, and have honest in depth discussions with their doctor prior to finalizing any treatment plan.0 -
roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.
As someone who deals with both asthma AND depression/anxiety ... yes, yes you can compare them.
I treat asthma with exercise, diet modification, and a rescue inhaler. When things are the worst (i.e., increase in environmental pollutants and/or allergens) I take a daily medication as well. Sometimes, that means a daily medication is long-term.
Mt mental illness issues are caused by a chemical imbalance, and actual, physical and medical condition. It is treated by diet and exercise, daily medications, and a rescue anti-anxiety.
Was medication the first thing suggested for either condition? no. But are the medications necessary for both? Yes. Both are caused by something physical in the system (body) not acting the "normal" way. Both require medication. Both ARE medical conditions.
It was the idea that medications "shouldn't be the first point of protocol" or that other methods should be thoroughly run through first that kept me from accepting medication for decades (I thought I hadn't really exhausted all other options, I had failed at my attempts, and I just wasn't strong enough yet, when really it was that medication was the missing link). It almost cost me my life and my family.
Bottom line is that, whether we're talking depression, bipolar, or an ED, the person needs to be working closely with a medical professional (which OP is doing) and should follow the medical professional's advice. That may mean trying a medication with a bad rap in the popular culture (don't tell me Prozac doesn't have a bad reputation in general culture).
OP, I would listen to your doctor. Different people respond in different ways to medications. Some people gain weight, some people lose weight, some people don't notice a difference. You may have to try a few different medications before you find the balance that is right for you. It can be a rough journey, but it's important to keep working with it because the alternative (doing nothing to treat your illness) is worse. Keep doing the other things to help (counseling, exercise, anything else that your doctor/team suggests). I hope you can find the right mix without too much error in the trial and have a good recovery
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MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
The point is that the OP as an eating disorder for which she has a care team. It doesn't matter what verbiage is used, the only thing we are qualified to share is (1) our experience with with weight loss while on Prozac and/or (2) talk with your specialist/doctors because you have an ED.
The OP has an ED. If people did gain weight on Prozac then that would discourage her to take it, and may eventuate her terminating treatment out of fear of weight gain, which is not helpful either.
While I don't agree that "it's ideal" to be off of psychotropics, I do agree with this statement about the side effects. There is no way to know who will gain weight and who won't, until you take the medication, but weight gain is one very big reason why many people in mental health treatment stop taking their medications. That being said, weight gain side effects can also be managed through diet and exercise.
I personally took prozac for many years, as well as other antidepressants, and had no weight gain from them. Everyone's different.
I also agree with suggestions about CBT to learn to correct cognitive distortions around food, oneself, and life in general. CBT is an evidence based treatment for eating disorders, especially in conjunction with medication.0 -
roblloyd89 wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.
Wow, that is very very ignorant of you. A "mental" condition IS a physical condition. Just because you do not believe medication is needed does not mean it isn't.
You use that word a lot, you throw it around like you have authority and no what you're talking about it, no, a mental Condition is not a psychical condition, and to compare the 2 is simply ridiculous.
How can you compare multiple sclerosis to minor depression? It's simply absurd. Not everyone needs medication for depression, but everyone with multiple sclerosis does need medication.
You seem to have a continuous need to bash others posts, but don't have anything logical to suggest or advise.
Not everyone needs pain medication for a sprained wrist, not everyone needs it for a headache.
Can you please explain to me the chemical difference between the substance p that is produced in a depressive's brain, or in someone with a sprained wrist, or multiple sclerosis?
For starters, chemical imbalances in those suffering from neurological disorders is not proven.
I can't even ...
Well, it's good to know that it's all in my head (pun intended).0 -
roblloyd89 wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.
Wow, that is very very ignorant of you. A "mental" condition IS a physical condition. Just because you do not believe medication is needed does not mean it isn't.
You use that word a lot, you throw it around like you have authority and no what you're talking about it, no, a mental Condition is not a psychical condition, and to compare the 2 is simply ridiculous.
How can you compare multiple sclerosis to minor depression? It's simply absurd. Not everyone needs medication for depression, but everyone with multiple sclerosis does need medication.
You seem to have a continuous need to bash others posts, but don't have anything logical to suggest or advise.
Not everyone needs pain medication for a sprained wrist, not everyone needs it for a headache.
Can you please explain to me the chemical difference between the substance p that is produced in a depressive's brain, or in someone with a sprained wrist, or multiple sclerosis?
For starters, chemical imbalances in those suffering from neurological disorders is not proven.
I can't even ...
Well, it's good to know that it's all in my head (pun intended).
No, let's get this straight, it's far more complicated than that.
There is no one size fits all and although every spotlight has been put on serotonin as the main cause of depression, the evidence is far from that simple.0 -
MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.roblloyd89 wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »Hey,
I'm not a doctor, I'll just thought I'd get that out the way before others start jumping on my personal opinion.
I've been on about 10 different types of anti depressants in my life, all of which caused various degrees in side effects.
Prozac for me had one of the least affects on weight, but others will tell you differently.
Anti depressants aren't an easy choice, they aren't a magic cure and quite often can cause dependency down the line. If you can manage your symptoms without medication then that would be ideal, if you really are struggling, look to take them with the view that you won't be on them for a long period of time. As always, consult a doctor when you decide the time is right.
A side from weight loss/gain, anti depressants can effect sleep, sex drive, balance. All of which can have an impact on your ability to lose weight, it's worth noting.
Eat properly, exercise and drink plenty of water.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.DeguelloTex wrote: »
What she said.PeachyCarol wrote: »OP, I would be leery of accepting any advice in this thread excepting that which relates to the weight-influencing properties of Prozac.
You are currently working with a medical team to address a very serious issue of your ED, and they, knowing the exact nature of your case, are contemplating this move. I'd take their advice over whether or not actually taking the drug is best for you.
I've taken Prozac in the past and it suppressed my appetite.
I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.snickerscharlie wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I will add that I am appalled that people reading this thread ignored the fact that you have ED and are just so against anti-depressants that they are ready to jump in to advise you to go against the advice of your care team.
Never change MFP.
Co-signed.
Who is advising the the OP go against the advice of the care team? The statement is qualified with an If and includes an ideally, nowhere does it say not to take the medication. Along those lines, why so dismissive of therapy? It works for some people, and everyone is different so it's worth mentioning to the OP while they are working with their care team as an avenue to explore. Antidepressant medication is not a cure to mental health issues, and most users eventually build a tolerance to the medication. That's where therapy and CBT are useful, so the patient can learn valid coping mechanisms to better deal with their disorders.
Do you really believe that it's better for people to just blindly take medication and not try to get to the root of their issues, so maybe one day they can manage on their own? It may not work for everyone, but it works for many people. Don't you think now would be a good time for the OP to explore that since they are actively working with a team? Antidepressants are not candy - they come with their own very real set of side effects, and if taken long enough, begin to physically alter neuroprocesses. Not to mention, they have a systemic effect, and are tough on other organ systems. The OP has an ED, at some point they will have to learn how to cope and have a heathy relationship with both food and themselves, as they cannot just stop eating. A pill isn't going to make this magically happen.
This is so insulting. Basically you are saying that people just need to not take medication and learn to deal with it. As someone who is stable on meds (and very very unstable off of them) this is incredibly rude/offensive.
Actually, not saying that at all. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for some. If she's starting on meds, it may be a good time to try therapy as well. I realize that it doesn't work for everyone, and have said as much. There is nothing wrong with having to take medication if that is the only thing that works, but what's wrong in trying other treatment types before making that claim?
There is a lot wrong with suggestion people try everything else before resorting to medication. It is basically medication shaming.
If someone had asthma, would you suggest trying xy and z before using their rescue inhaler? If they had a dangerous cardiac condition, would you suggest alternates before taking meds? mental health is NOT different from other illnesses. Suggesting someone avoid medication and try other means first, and only take them as a last resort, could actually be life threatening.
You can't compare asthma, a psychical condition, to a mental Condition.
The first line of therapy should be exactly that, medication is not shameful, but it shouldn't necessarily be the first point of protocol.
Playing around with an individuals neurotransmitters is not a joke.
It's up to a professional to decide the severity of any condition.
Wow, that is very very ignorant of you. A "mental" condition IS a physical condition. Just because you do not believe medication is needed does not mean it isn't.
^This. roblloyd89, how do you think medication works if the mind is not a physical thing?
Huh? A mental condition is not caused by a deformed brain. Mental conditions are a combination of genetic and environmental factors. You can't compare a chemical imbalance to a broken toe.
Actually, some mental conditions are precipitated by brain formation. Many anxiety disorders and impulse control disorders are being linked to an underdeveloped amygadala in some people.
Also, with respect to some of your previous statements, the mind may not necessarily be a physical entity if you are basing your reasoning on metaphysical principles, however, the mind is connected to the brain, which physically exists, so in many instances yes, you would treat the brain to facilitate treating the mind. While I am a huge supporter of therapy and CBT, there are many instances of mental health issues that are directly related to the brain, whether it be genetic, environmental, developmental, injury, etc. in those cases, medication may be the only thing that works, particularly if the area of the brain affects/regulates hormone production. Our knowledge is so limited in the neurosciences area, that there is no one cookie cutter treatment for mental illness. As I've said in these threads (and been grievously misunderstood) about people giving therapy a chance and not being dismissive to it, people also need to give medication a chance as well, and shouldn't be dismissive of that line of treatment either. I think doing both therapy and medication at the same time is an ideal situation. The is no one solution that works for everyone, and for people seeking treatment it is imperative that they keep an open mind to what is available. Equally as important, they need to do their research as well to understand the pros and cons of each treatment method, and have honest in depth discussions with their doctor prior to finalizing any treatment plan.
This is my point exactly, you can't have a one size fits all mentality. A physical condition can be observed, a mental condition cannot. Science likes to try and quantity mental conditions but cannot. There is no one factor that drives these conditions and equally, not one solution.0
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