Do you take Vitamins?

I don't mean to start debate regarding whether or not to take vitamins as there are clearly 2 groups.

I never took vitamins and still don't as I always thought balanced diet will take care of it. I recently entered all my food data in this website and I can see it now I don't take all vitamins and there is always something missing. I am seriously thinking about adding vitamins to my diet and there are few concerns.

A,D, E and K are fat soluble vitamins so in reality it will take a long time get deficiency. I do eat lots (5-10 servings/ day) of fruits and vegies. Most of A is in apple and sweet potatos and I am trying to limit total carbs.

Copper: I check most multivitamin brands and all of them has copper in it and it is very easy to get from food e.g nuts (walnut, almonds etc). Copper toxicity is real and excessive copper has linear effect. Having copper really freak me out taking multi-vitamins.

Vitamin C and Biotin: These 2 vitamins have no upper limit but at the same time most multivitamin brands have less than 50% of c and around 10% of Biotin. I eat many boiled egg white (in case you don't know, egg white has avidin protein which binds to Biotin. Avidin is still acitve (like 40%) after boiling eggs).


Do you take multivitamins and or individuals one or something in the middle like B complex (it has all the Bs and C plus Biotin in it)?

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  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    I take multi-vitamins, but I don't analyze the specific content like you are doing. If I was going to do that, I would take the separate vitamins that I need instead. I'm aware that my current multi-vitamins lack sufficient amounts of some micro-nutrients by themselves, but I don't notice any specific issues as a result (with an exception for potassium, for which I have a prescription due to a high dietary deficiency).
  • esjones12
    esjones12 Posts: 1,363 Member
    My diet is extremely strict to reach athletic performance results. I take specific vitamins/supplements to fill in the gaps.
  • ki4eld
    ki4eld Posts: 1,213 Member
    I've had vitamin malabsorption most of my life and my required diet makes it worse. So I take a lot of supplements, all prescribed by my doctor based on lab work.
  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    I take a multi (that has iron)...check labels. I have trouble keeping my iron level up.

    Keep in mind that not all MFP food entries will be complete for nutrients (member created entries especially).
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    I have experimented with logging on a site called cronometer in the past, and find that my diet typically covers the main micronutrients that get tracked pretty well, as I would have guessed since I try hard to get a variety of vegetables and other nutrient-rich foods. However, nothing wrong with insurance, and my doctor suggested taking D during the winter and so I do that (my understanding is that D deficiency among people in northern climates is pretty common). I also take fish oil, although I suspect it's not necessary as I usually eat a good bit of salmon and trout. I've experimented with a multivitamin in the past but found it was hard on my stomach, which just the D and the fish oil is not. I also would personally avoid supplementing iron as my mother has a condition (that can be genetic) that leads to iron build-up and damaged her liver as a result even without supplementation.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    Rather than taking multis, I take individuals so I can get the dosages and forms I want. (I do take a B complex.) I have tested deficient for D and iron (I'm anemic) so take those. I take kelp because I don't get enough iodine in my diet otherwise, and have valid reasons for the other things I take.
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    I have experimented with logging on a site called cronometer in the past, and find that my diet typically covers the main micronutrients that get tracked pretty well, as I would have guessed since I try hard to get a variety of vegetables and other nutrient-rich foods. However, nothing wrong with insurance, and my doctor suggested taking D during the winter and so I do that (my understanding is that D deficiency among people in northern climates is pretty common). I also take fish oil, although I suspect it's not necessary as I usually eat a good bit of salmon and trout. I've experimented with a multivitamin in the past but found it was hard on my stomach, which just the D and the fish oil is not. I also would personally avoid supplementing iron as my mother has a condition (that can be genetic) that leads to iron build-up and damaged her liver as a result even without supplementation.

    Oh, right... fish oil. I take that also because my cholesterol is terrible when I don't take it.
  • Yi5hedr3
    Yi5hedr3 Posts: 2,696 Member
    I take around 50-60 various caps a day.
  • steuartcj
    steuartcj Posts: 132 Member
    YUP.
  • Jelaan
    Jelaan Posts: 815 Member
    Yes plus calcium and vitamin D as I am post menapausal and my bone density is decreasing (another good reason for lifting).
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  • Leslierussell4134
    Leslierussell4134 Posts: 376 Member
    Just a recommendation, I'd have my blood work done with a Dr, you have to ask to get vitamins pulled as well, because they're not part of the typical annual workup. I'd have them go over it with you and suggest vitamins if you're deficient. Most Docs will suggest a multi, especially for women during child bearing age, but again, not all. Supplementing vitamins you don't need, especially, fatty vitamins that are not water soluble, can negatively affect your health. It can also interfere with absorbing other nutrients, causing the opposite of what you were going for.
  • SherryTeach
    SherryTeach Posts: 2,836 Member
    I quit spending money on vitamins when all the studies came out that people who take vitamins have exactly the same life expectancy as people who don't. In fact, overdosing on some vitamins is a bad idea. I do the best I can with watching my food nutrients and then I let it go.
  • rankinsect
    rankinsect Posts: 2,238 Member
    I do take a multivitamin. My doctor says it's okay as an "insurance policy", but it probably just equates to expensive urine as I have no known dietary deficiencies.
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  • CooCooPuff
    CooCooPuff Posts: 4,374 Member
    I just have some pills from CVS. 200 pills, 1 per day, on sale 2 for ten

    I'm currently finishing off some Trader Joe's women high potency a friend gave me.
  • singingflutelady
    singingflutelady Posts: 8,736 Member
    Yes I take a multivitamin, vitamin d and iron (fera max) because I have Crohn's which effects absorption and it severely limits my intact of veggies and fruits. Plus vitamin d deficiencies have been linked to Crohn's and a few other autoimmune diseases so I take that just in case
  • Strawblackcat
    Strawblackcat Posts: 944 Member
    I take a women's once daily. It's hard to get all your micronutrient bases covered in a day, stay under your calories, and still have room for a treat. The multi allows me to treat myself every once in a whole and not feel like I'm "missing out" on nutrients. I'm considering going on a multi-mineral as well, since most multivitamins don't cover mineral requirements very well due to the limitations of tablet sizing.
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    If one is going to take Vitamin D3 please read why taking Vitamin K2 is needed to protect from clogging one's arteries and heart valves with calcium. It seems Vitamin D3 drives calcium and Vitamin K2 (not vitamin K/K1) tells Vitamin D3 where to drive the calcium. Without enough K2 taking Vitamin D3 can put you at a greater health risk based on my understanding today.

    articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/10/19/vitamin-d-vitamin-k2.aspx
  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,301 Member
    I always enjoy the links you provide as it gives food(yes a pun) for thought. It would seem eating a cup of collards(Vit K 1058% DV) and some fatty fish like mackerel, salmon, or tuna(rich in Vitamin D) and have a little grass fed or non grass fed butter seems to improve the intake naturally of the deficient items you reference above. You may want to have a serving of gouda or brie for a little K2 kicker. I try to eat naturally to 'keep the saw sharp' or 'eat efficiently' for health and avoid supplementing since too much of one of the supplements above leads to excessive bleeding and kidney stones.

    I wish Dr Mercola, when citing studies, would provide the links because tracking the stuff down is pretty tough.

    'The next best thing to dietary vitamin K2 is a vitamin K2 supplement. MK-7 is the form you'll want to look for in supplements, because in a supplement form the MK-4 products are actually synthetic.'

    I wonder what the 3rd best thing would be?!? So, I take very few if any supplements ever. A diet with a balance of nutrient dense foods isn't going to require me to supplement. Best of luck OP.
  • Phrick
    Phrick Posts: 2,765 Member
    I take a few supplements on my doctor's recommendation - D3, K2 (MK-7) and Calcium - because I have autoimmune thyroiditis, which can cause bone mineral loss; it went undetected and untreated for close to a year. When I was diagnosed and began treatment my doctor recommended the above 3 supplements in an effort to restore what had been lost. I'm due for blood work pretty soon and we'll see where I stand at that point.
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    I take a multivitamin, biotin for my nails as a maybe help (which are a bit wrecked from psoriatic arthritis) and a supplement cocktail prescribed by my neurologist as part of my migraine treatment protocol. If I weren't an ovo-lacto veggie who gets plenty of dietary calcium, my doctor would have me supplementing with calcium. I get loads in my diet, though and she thinks it's enough.
  • singingflutelady
    singingflutelady Posts: 8,736 Member
    Oh I take biotin too because I lost 1/2 to 3/4 of my hair from my lovely drugs and severe anaemia
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    lifeextension.com/magazine/2009/1/vitamin-k-protection-against-arterial-calcification-bone-loss-cancer-aging/page-01

    @_Terrapin_ I agree we need quality articles with research noted. On page three of the above article you will find 69 references that are mentioned in this 2009 LifeExtention article. I actually take their Super K with advanced K2 complex because of the science in the above article.

    Check out the info under the heading of WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW: PROTECTION AGAINST ARTERIAL CALCIFICATION, BONE LOSS, CANCER, AND AGING! It is one page 1 of this 3 page article.

    @Phrick that is awesome that you have a doctor on top of the Vit D3/K2 relationship and protection against diseases. After I learned about K2 and especially MK-7 and how one can not overdose on it per trials and it seems to protect from overdosing on Vit D3 I finally got my Vit D level up into the 90's after being stuck in the 20's for years. Protection against cancers seems to become strong with Vit D levels in the 70-90 levels from what I have read. I have family that have had heart bypass surgeries and as I read that is really a sign of low Vit D and K2 levels.

    Vit D will drive calcium from the gut to the body. Vit K2 is computer that tells Vit D where to deliver the calcium or to remove it if the calcium has been put into the wrong places in the past like the arteries, heart valves, etc.

    After my Vit D levels got into the 90 range my gums stopped bleeding when flossing and the hard plaque that normally had to be scraped off at the dental office visit disappeared. I read if we have dental plaque then we should expect to have plaque build up in our arteries/heart.

    Using Vit D3 and Vit K2 to clean my arteries vs heart bypass surgery makes sense to me. :)



  • Optimistical1
    Optimistical1 Posts: 210 Member
    Vitamin D, a good multi, probiotics, and fish oil are all necessary for excellent health.
  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,301 Member
    lifeextension.com/magazine/2009/1/vitamin-k-protection-against-arterial-calcification-bone-loss-cancer-aging/page-01

    @_Terrapin_ I agree we need quality articles with research noted. On page three of the above article you will find 69 references that are mentioned in this 2009 LifeExtention article. I actually take their Super K with advanced K2 complex because of the science in the above article.

    Check out the info under the heading of WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW: PROTECTION AGAINST ARTERIAL CALCIFICATION, BONE LOSS, CANCER, AND AGING! It is one page 1 of this 3 page article.

    @Phrick that is awesome that you have a doctor on top of the Vit D3/K2 relationship and protection against diseases. After I learned about K2 and especially MK-7 and how one can not overdose on it per trials and it seems to protect from overdosing on Vit D3 I finally got my Vit D level up into the 90's after being stuck in the 20's for years. Protection against cancers seems to become strong with Vit D levels in the 70-90 levels from what I have read. I have family that have had heart bypass surgeries and as I read that is really a sign of low Vit D and K2 levels.

    Vit D will drive calcium from the gut to the body. Vit K2 is computer that tells Vit D where to deliver the calcium or to remove it if the calcium has been put into the wrong places in the past like the arteries, heart valves, etc.

    After my Vit D levels got into the 90 range my gums stopped bleeding when flossing and the hard plaque that normally had to be scraped off at the dental office visit disappeared. I read if we have dental plaque then we should expect to have plaque build up in our arteries/heart.

    Using Vit D3 and Vit K2 to clean my arteries vs heart bypass surgery makes sense to me. :)



    Am reading the link from above; parts of page 1 remind me of Stephen Covey and the 7 Habits of Highly Effective People. I'm trying to remember the last time I read a medical paper using phraseology like 'synergistic' as a way to describe something. Interesting information. I'm not sure these 2 vitamin supplements will clean arteries. I'll have to check with my dentist about the plaque on my teeth relative to plaque in other areas. I'm fairly certain the dental staff will recommend brushing for plaque removal. Not quite sure I can brush my heart.
  • jim180155
    jim180155 Posts: 769 Member
    I take a multi-vitamin, fish oil, and D3. The fish oil may or may not be good. (Conflicting studies) Most people are deficient in vitamin D, so I take an extra 1,000 IUs in addition to the 1500 IUs that are in my multi. (I wasn't aware of the K2-D3 link, so Gale's info is good.) And part of the reason I'm taking the multi is for the extra magnesium, another typical deficiency.

    I also take pro-biotics daily in the way of yogurt, kefir, and cultured sauerkraut, and plenty of fiber. Those are for my microbiome, since emerging science is showing that it's a key factor to overall health.
  • ekruska802
    ekruska802 Posts: 79 Member
    The smell of vitamins makes me gag. Maybe I should take them - I don't know. But I'm pretty sure if I try, they won't stay down. I once threw up in a pharmacy from the smell. Granted, I was 4, but I'm pretty sure I'd have a similar reaction today.
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