Help Please Rhabdo
lalainap19
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Hey there I worked out for 1 intend hour on Tuesday evening legs only. I have not worked out in the gym for about 1 year. The next day Wednesday I had the worst quad cramps ever so debilitating I would collapse in agony. And could not walk. Went to the ER and got admitted with Rhabdo. My numbers were at 13,000 on day 1 and day 2 spiked up to 14,000 now I am stuck and wondering how much longer I will be stuck in this hospital. Its day 4 now and still nothing. If anyone has had this please share me your story
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I have never heard of rhabdo. I suggest asking your doctor at the hospital.
ETA: Just read this. Dang, that sounds terrible. I'm sorry you're having to go through this.
http://crossfitimpulse.com/rhabdo-and-crossfit/0 -
Wow. I'm glad you went to the E.R. Get better soon!0
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Pretty serious. When people say one can't over train, they've probably never heard or experienced this. Not that it's common, but people who train super intense can have it happen especially if training fasted. Others that get it from a sports perspective are endurance athletes (IRONMAN competitors) if their nutrition is off during the competition.
It can also be hereditary, so check for that. Be aware of your intensity and duration times when you exercise.
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Best to be asking your docs there. They usually try to flush that out with some high rate IV fluids, but it can take some time. Can be very damaging to your kidneys, so I suggest sticking around for as long as they think you should. Hope you are well on the way to recovery.0
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Do you mean an INTENSE hour?
Are you talking about rhabdomyolysis? It's really rare and often has more complex causes then just overexertion. It's really hard to do that to yourself in an hour.
Stay well hydrated, take care of any underlying issues that you have (diabetes?) and follow your doctors' instructions. If your physicians are not telling you what caused this or how to prevent it, you need to start asking questions.
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azulvioleta6 wrote: »Do you mean an INTENSE hour?
Are you talking about rhabdomyolysis? It's really rare and often has more complex causes then just overexertion. It's really hard to do that to yourself in an hour.
Stay well hydrated, take care of any underlying issues that you have (diabetes?) and follow your doctors' instructions. If your physicians are not telling you what caused this or how to prevent it, you need to start asking questions.
Thanks for the reply I have not worked out in over a year this was my first time and we did 1 hour of strictly legs.0 -
queenliz99 wrote: »Wow. I'm glad you went to the E.R. Get better soon!
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I have never heard of rhabdo. I suggest asking your doctor at the hospital.
ETA: Just read this. Dang, that sounds terrible. I'm sorry you're having to go through this.
http://crossfitimpulse.com/rhabdo-and-crossfit/
Yeah its pretty horrible the pain for me was worse than child birth.
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azulvioleta6 wrote: »Do you mean an INTENSE hour?
Are you talking about rhabdomyolysis? It's really rare and often has more complex causes then just overexertion. It's really hard to do that to yourself in an hour.
Stay well hydrated, take care of any underlying issues that you have (diabetes?) and follow your doctors' instructions. If your physicians are not telling you what caused this or how to prevent it, you need to start asking questions.
Yes, it can happen in only one hour of over exertion if the person had not been working out for a long time. The OP had been out of the gym for one year. It looks like she is still in the hospital, so they must be flushing her kidneys with heavy IV fluid.
This is a time when "detox" sounds appropriate.0 -
Whew-so sorry that happened to you. Hope you are well soon.0
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azulvioleta6 wrote: »Do you mean an INTENSE hour?
Are you talking about rhabdomyolysis? It's really rare and often has more complex causes then just overexertion. It's really hard to do that to yourself in an hour.
Stay well hydrated, take care of any underlying issues that you have (diabetes?) and follow your doctors' instructions. If your physicians are not telling you what caused this or how to prevent it, you need to start asking questions.
Yes, it can happen in only one hour of over exertion if the person had not been working out for a long time. The OP had been out of the gym for one year. It looks like she is still in the hospital, so they must be flushing her kidneys with heavy IV fluid.
This is a time when "detox" sounds appropriate.
Yes I'm still here my cpk numbers are at 25,000 still so I'm not sure how low they have to be for me to get released I'm on iv saline fluids 1 bag an hour and pain meds for the cramps I'm just wondering how long it will take to get back to my old self and be able to do light activities.0 -
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lalainap19 wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »Do you mean an INTENSE hour?
Are you talking about rhabdomyolysis? It's really rare and often has more complex causes then just overexertion. It's really hard to do that to yourself in an hour.
Stay well hydrated, take care of any underlying issues that you have (diabetes?) and follow your doctors' instructions. If your physicians are not telling you what caused this or how to prevent it, you need to start asking questions.
Yes, it can happen in only one hour of over exertion if the person had not been working out for a long time. The OP had been out of the gym for one year. It looks like she is still in the hospital, so they must be flushing her kidneys with heavy IV fluid.
This is a time when "detox" sounds appropriate.
Yes I'm still here my cpk numbers are at 25,000 still so I'm not sure how low they have to be for me to get released I'm on iv saline fluids 1 bag an hour and pain meds for the cramps I'm just wondering how long it will take to get back to my old self and be able to do light activities.
Ask your nurse or doctor these questions, we aren't there and have a tiny slice of the overall picture. If your numbers are still climbing it's possible you could go into (or are in) acute kidney injury. I would settle in for now. I don't think release and normal activity is close in your future (I work in sicu and while we don't get rhabdo generally but we do see it in our trauma patients occasionally).
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lalainap19 wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »Do you mean an INTENSE hour?
Are you talking about rhabdomyolysis? It's really rare and often has more complex causes then just overexertion. It's really hard to do that to yourself in an hour.
Stay well hydrated, take care of any underlying issues that you have (diabetes?) and follow your doctors' instructions. If your physicians are not telling you what caused this or how to prevent it, you need to start asking questions.
Thanks for the reply I have not worked out in over a year this was my first time and we did 1 hour of strictly legs.
"We"? Did a trainer encourage this, or just a friend?0 -
No advice, just wanted to wish you a speedy recovery.0
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lalainap19 wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »Do you mean an INTENSE hour?
Are you talking about rhabdomyolysis? It's really rare and often has more complex causes then just overexertion. It's really hard to do that to yourself in an hour.
Stay well hydrated, take care of any underlying issues that you have (diabetes?) and follow your doctors' instructions. If your physicians are not telling you what caused this or how to prevent it, you need to start asking questions.
Yes, it can happen in only one hour of over exertion if the person had not been working out for a long time. The OP had been out of the gym for one year. It looks like she is still in the hospital, so they must be flushing her kidneys with heavy IV fluid.
This is a time when "detox" sounds appropriate.
Yes I'm still here my cpk numbers are at 25,000 still so I'm not sure how low they have to be for me to get released I'm on iv saline fluids 1 bag an hour and pain meds for the cramps I'm just wondering how long it will take to get back to my old self and be able to do light activities.
Take care of yourself and have a speedy and total recovery. Very sorry that you had to go thru this awful painful and serious experience.0 -
lalainap19 wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »Do you mean an INTENSE hour?
Are you talking about rhabdomyolysis? It's really rare and often has more complex causes then just overexertion. It's really hard to do that to yourself in an hour.
Stay well hydrated, take care of any underlying issues that you have (diabetes?) and follow your doctors' instructions. If your physicians are not telling you what caused this or how to prevent it, you need to start asking questions.
Thanks for the reply I have not worked out in over a year this was my first time and we did 1 hour of strictly legs.
"We"? Did a trainer encourage this, or just a friend?
It was a friend she is used to working out. I guess she thought I was in better shape than I was but I should have listened to my body. Luckily I'm home now still sore and get a few cramps but I'm blessed to have no kidney issues and I've learned a valuable lesson that humbled me I will never take my health for granted again.
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lalainap19 wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »Do you mean an INTENSE hour?
Are you talking about rhabdomyolysis? It's really rare and often has more complex causes then just overexertion. It's really hard to do that to yourself in an hour.
Stay well hydrated, take care of any underlying issues that you have (diabetes?) and follow your doctors' instructions. If your physicians are not telling you what caused this or how to prevent it, you need to start asking questions.
Yes, it can happen in only one hour of over exertion if the person had not been working out for a long time. The OP had been out of the gym for one year. It looks like she is still in the hospital, so they must be flushing her kidneys with heavy IV fluid.
This is a time when "detox" sounds appropriate.
Yes I'm still here my cpk numbers are at 25,000 still so I'm not sure how low they have to be for me to get released I'm on iv saline fluids 1 bag an hour and pain meds for the cramps I'm just wondering how long it will take to get back to my old self and be able to do light activities.
Take care of yourself and have a speedy and total recovery. Very sorry that you had to go thru this awful painful and serious experience.
Thank u the support means a lot.0 -
Out of curiosity, what did the doctor advise you to do/not to do as far as exercise/activity at this point? Is it strictly "no exercise for X time period" or "play it by ear" or what? Again, I'm sorry this happened to you. It sounds very scary.0
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Ugh, this is my biggest fear.
This is the 5th or 6th rhabdo story i've heard from people doing "seemingly" easy exercises in the past month.
Most of the people who get rhabdo are athletes who push themselves too far, but more and more i'm seeing people who are completely untrained getting rhabdo. I heard some guy last week who got rhabdo with a personal trainer who made him do pull ups. He also was completely untrained. There was also the girl who took her very first spin class and got rhabdo in both her quads...
I am so afraid of giving someone rhabdo while training, and i try and find a fine balance between "challenging" and "still completely safe" so it's really sad to hear about it happening to you. It's also important to note that there could be an underlying hereditary issue that made you more susceptible to it.
For someone who has not worked out in over a year i would have started you out with bodyweight exercises or performed a fitness test to see where you are. Working on balance, stabilization, strength, FIRST, until you were ready to lift weights or just "go get 'em". I used to be so pissed seeing trainers with women and the little 2 pound pink dumbbells, but i feel more and more like some people just REALLY need to work their way up and i'll be damned if i give someone rhabdo.
I am glad you went to the hospital.
Warning to others, stay hydrated, don't over do it, listen to the signals your body is giving you. If your pee is brown, GO TO THE ER! This can be deadly.0 -
I had never heard of this until this week. When I have over done things, I have had injuries but nothing this serious. I am so glad you are doing better and are home. Another cautionary tale, thanks for sharing.0
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rainbowbow wrote: »Ugh, this is my biggest fear.
This is the 5th or 6th rhabdo story i've heard from people doing "seemingly" easy exercises in the past month.
Most of the people who get rhabdo are athletes who push themselves too far, but more and more i'm seeing people who are completely untrained getting rhabdo. I heard some guy last week who got rhabdo with a personal trainer who made him do pull ups. He also was completely untrained. There was also the girl who took her very first spin class and got rhabdo in both her quads...
I am so afraid of giving someone rhabdo while training, and i try and find a fine balance between "challenging" and "still completely safe" so it's really sad to hear about it happening to you. It's also important to note that there could be an underlying hereditary issue that made you more susceptible to it.
For someone who has not worked out in over a year i would have started you out with bodyweight exercises or performed a fitness test to see where you are. Working on balance, stabilization, strength, FIRST, until you were ready to lift weights or just "go get 'em". I used to be so pissed seeing trainers with women and the little 2 pound pink dumbbells, but i feel more and more like some people just REALLY need to work their way up and i'll be damned if i give someone rhabdo.
I am glad you went to the hospital.
Warning to others, stay hydrated, don't over do it, listen to the signals your body is giving you. If your pee is brown, GO TO THE ER! This can be deadly.
Good for you for being aware of this issue and trying not to push you clients too much. Balance is the key and sometimes hard to find and do. I have been working out, including strength training, for a long time; however, when I came from vacation, even if they were only for two weeks, I start slowly for the first week until my body and muscles start "remembering" what they are supposed to do. I don't care if it takes 2 or 3 weeks to get back to my previous level, better doing something than doing nothing and be bedridden for a long time.
My motto is: "be aware of your limitations, respect your body, and leave your ego at the door before entering the gym."0 -
Thank you for making me aware of something I've never heard of! Yikes! So glad you're better0
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lalainap19 wrote: »lalainap19 wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »Do you mean an INTENSE hour?
Are you talking about rhabdomyolysis? It's really rare and often has more complex causes then just overexertion. It's really hard to do that to yourself in an hour.
Stay well hydrated, take care of any underlying issues that you have (diabetes?) and follow your doctors' instructions. If your physicians are not telling you what caused this or how to prevent it, you need to start asking questions.
Thanks for the reply I have not worked out in over a year this was my first time and we did 1 hour of strictly legs.
"We"? Did a trainer encourage this, or just a friend?
It was a friend she is used to working out. I guess she thought I was in better shape than I was but I should have listened to my body. Luckily I'm home now still sore and get a few cramps but I'm blessed to have no kidney issues and I've learned a valuable lesson that humbled me I will never take my health for granted again.
Ah, I see. Don't beat yourself up, a lot of us have pushed ourselves farther than our bodies could take. Cost of being fired up! And, I guess, of the marketing of programs that might be ok for fit 20 y/os, but maybe not for a LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE. I've had to learn different version of this lesson multiple times We don't always know what our limits are, too, and they change over time - something you could do really easily ten years ago is something you *really can't* in the present
I'm glad you're feeling better!0 -
rainbowbow wrote: »Ugh, this is my biggest fear.
This is the 5th or 6th rhabdo story i've heard from people doing "seemingly" easy exercises in the past month.
Most of the people who get rhabdo are athletes who push themselves too far, but more and more i'm seeing people who are completely untrained getting rhabdo. I heard some guy last week who got rhabdo with a personal trainer who made him do pull ups. He also was completely untrained. There was also the girl who took her very first spin class and got rhabdo in both her quads...
I am so afraid of giving someone rhabdo while training, and i try and find a fine balance between "challenging" and "still completely safe" so it's really sad to hear about it happening to you. It's also important to note that there could be an underlying hereditary issue that made you more susceptible to it.
I think @lalainap19 was right when she talked about listening to your body. Those signals can easily get overwhelmed or confused or just not heard when we're following a strict program, feeling pressured by a class format or instructional or coaching style, or getting too hung up on # of reps, time, even music, when we let it push us too far (if it's great music). Plus there are the "no pain no gain", "feel the burn", "suck it up" messages that somehow persist and are even louder when you're determined to burn fat or get strong or whatever. It def is a fine balance & it's different for everyone, genetics make a difference for sure.
I think there'd be a lot of value in talking more about how to interpret our internal bodily signals. (Like I'd really be interested to hear more about what "good" and "bad" signals are like for different people.)0 -
Out of curiosity, what did the doctor advise you to do/not to do as far as exercise/activity at this point? Is it strictly "no exercise for X time period" or "play it by ear" or what? Again, I'm sorry this happened to you. It sounds very scary.
Light activity until you feel like u can workout. He said u can't reinjured the muscle and to drink plenty of water. Also to avoid rhabdo don't do lots of sets to just do a few sets with heavy weights. It happens if u go overboard and workout to strenuously.0 -
prettysoul1908 wrote: »Thank you for making me aware of something I've never heard of! Yikes! So glad you're better
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My fiance got a bizarre case of rhabdo from attempting to water-ski for the first time in many years. I'd heard of it before among cross-fitters but had no idea something like this could cause it. Fortunately he was able to recover quickly, but it can be very serious!0
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Just curious - what was your calorie and carbohydrate intake the 24 hours prior to the gym session?0
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