Protein
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roblloyd89 wrote: »There are numerous protein powders on the market that contain 0 carbs. A simple Google search will provide your answer.Christine_72 wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »savageman69 wrote: »pretty big misconception, protein or any food actually wont make you bulky, those who are bulky either worked there butts off to get it, or used a drug source but still worked for it.....its not easy getting bigger and its even harder for females to get bigger.....workout and eat a balanced diet you will love what happens and i promise you, your not gonna just wake up bulky lol
This is incorrect, the only way to bulk up is to consume lots of carbs
No, the only way to bulk up is to eat at caloric surplus and run the proper lifting routine to build muscle.
Also, why are you suggesting the OP cut her carbs? She asked about protein shakes.
To that topic, OP, I'm with blankiefinder. Shakes are good if you need to supplement your protein for one reason or another. I also think they're good if, for some reason, you like light meals every now and then.
They are not necessary for weight loss, and they are not necessary for muscle building (which is a whole different topic).
Because protein shake contain carbs, and she's asking about losing weight. I'm provided advise, it's completely on topic
That's not universally true...
Which part?
Find me a protein shake wirh 0 carbs?
Anyway we r going off topic, OP, high protein, moderate carbs ok, best advise I can give ya
Not arguing with you Rob, but one of the protein powders I use has 0.3g carbs per 30 grams, that's the lowest one I've been able to find.
Guys,
I'm sure there is, but please can we keep this on topic.
The OP can get all of her protein sources from food, without being confused by the different protein shakes on the market. There is no benefit to consuming protein shakes on top of meals, your body can only use so much protein within a time window
True, but sometimes people simply like the convenience of a shake for a quick meal replacement.
I like smoothies in the summer when my appetite isn't the greatest. I add veggies and fruit to protein powder and almond milk and use it as a meal replacement.
Some people just don't have much of an appetite at times.
The majority of protein powders aren't confusing, and I'm sure the OP doesn't need to worry about "confusion" since carbs are your problem, not hers.0 -
roblloyd89 wrote: »Trying to lose weight. Do I do a protein shake? Or is that just a meal replacement? I rather eat my food. Is the protein for those who are bulky and big?
I'm not a strong advocate of shakes, it's much easier to get protein from food.
I'd strongly suggest you restrict your carbs and eat more protein, a can of tuna has 30g of protein for example, and it's much better for you than protein shakes.
Protein also helps to make you feel fuller.
Good luck
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Thanks I need more protein. Not a fan of shakes.0
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PeachyCarol wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »savageman69 wrote: »pretty big misconception, protein or any food actually wont make you bulky, those who are bulky either worked there butts off to get it, or used a drug source but still worked for it.....its not easy getting bigger and its even harder for females to get bigger.....workout and eat a balanced diet you will love what happens and i promise you, your not gonna just wake up bulky lol
This is incorrect, the only way to bulk up is to consume lots of carbs
No, the only way to bulk up is to eat at caloric surplus and run the proper lifting routine to build muscle.
Also, why are you suggesting the OP cut her carbs? She asked about protein shakes.
To that topic, OP, I'm with blankiefinder. Shakes are good if you need to supplement your protein for one reason or another. I also think they're good if, for some reason, you like light meals every now and then.
They are not necessary for weight loss, and they are not necessary for muscle building (which is a whole different topic).
No, I lift weights, this is not true.
Your muscles need glycogen to build muscle.
Which you can get from a balanced diet. No need to focus solely on carbs.
Now, if you're low carbing and want to bulk, well then, I dunno. You might need to add more carbs.
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I don't wanna bulk and like carbs. That my killer I need to prob cut some. But I work out hard cardio0
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PeachyCarol wrote: »
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Great idea0
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roblloyd89 wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »roblloyd89 wrote: »savageman69 wrote: »pretty big misconception, protein or any food actually wont make you bulky, those who are bulky either worked there butts off to get it, or used a drug source but still worked for it.....its not easy getting bigger and its even harder for females to get bigger.....workout and eat a balanced diet you will love what happens and i promise you, your not gonna just wake up bulky lol
This is incorrect, the only way to bulk up is to consume lots of carbs
No, the only way to bulk up is to eat at caloric surplus and run the proper lifting routine to build muscle.
Also, why are you suggesting the OP cut her carbs? She asked about protein shakes.
To that topic, OP, I'm with blankiefinder. Shakes are good if you need to supplement your protein for one reason or another. I also think they're good if, for some reason, you like light meals every now and then.
They are not necessary for weight loss, and they are not necessary for muscle building (which is a whole different topic).
No, I lift weights, this is not true.
Your muscles need glycogen to build muscle.
People can bulk on a ketogenic or low carb diet.
Glycogen is stored in muscle and gives muscle part of its fullness and water, but amino acids are the active material used to make muscle. It doesn't use glycogen as a scaffolding, it just stores it there as fuel.
Your body will also create some glucose for needed tasks when your dietary intake of carbs is low enough.
Your muscles need energy to build, making muscle is a separate issue and requires protein.
I'm sure you can bulk on a keto diet, but carbs are the preferred fuel for the body.0 -
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Anyone on a caloric deficit should focus on getting a minimum of .65g per pound of bodyweight in protein daily in order to preserve muscle mass.
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PeachyCarol wrote: »Anyone on a caloric deficit should focus on getting a minimum of .65g per pound of bodyweight in protein daily in order to preserve muscle mass.
Yay, we finally agree on something0 -
roblloyd89 wrote: »
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I will thanks0
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Trying to lose weight. Do I do a protein shake? Or is that just a meal replacement? I rather eat my food. Is the protein for those who are bulky and big?
@nise82
Now that you've further clarified your goals and what exercise you do, I think the distraction of the why use this vs that is mostly gone.
If you prefer to eat your foods, I'd suggest against most powders. Why? There are plenty of protein rich foods that will fill you up more and allow you to eat them, even quick and easy things. Of course they also have varied degrees of fats and carbs, but if you focus on the protein and then the secondary items you either want/need or don't, there are still plenty of easy and quick choices.
Want protein with minimal fat? Grab a can of tuna. If you want some fat, add mayo. If you want carbs, throw either version on some toast. The same can be done in a variety of ways with just about any source of protein that is also low fat. Chicken, many beans, various forms of Greek yogurt, etc.
Depending on your hunger levels, some of the protein bars are fairly filling for the size. For me personally protein calories fill me up better and make me feel full longer than fats and carbs do. That will vary with each person though, so find the combo that works for you.
If you don't have any issues feeling hungry within your weight loss calorie restrictions, or you just aren't hungry some days, powders can be great. But even in that case if you prefer to eat the protein, I've found that there are some protein bars that aren't very large, and eating one is no more volume than maybe a decent sized snack or piece of fruit.
There are times when I like a liquid burst of energy, like after a workout or when I just don't have much hunger. But overall, I've gotten much closer to just finding ways to fill my protein goals with adjusting what I eat.0 -
Trying to lose weight. Do I do a protein shake? Or is that just a meal replacement? I rather eat my food. Is the protein for those who are bulky and big?
protein shakes have no magical weight loss properties...they are also not meal replacements...they are protein supplements that can help you hit your protein targets if you're not otherwise hitting them with your normal diet.0 -
There are protein meal replacement shakes....I use them because I find they fill me up for way less calories than if I were to make food for myself because I make bad choices. So, by using the shakes I make good choices and stay within my calorie goals.0
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robertw486 wrote: »Trying to lose weight. Do I do a protein shake? Or is that just a meal replacement? I rather eat my food. Is the protein for those who are bulky and big?
@nise82
Now that you've further clarified your goals and what exercise you do, I think the distraction of the why use this vs that is mostly gone.
If you prefer to eat your foods, I'd suggest against most powders. Why? There are plenty of protein rich foods that will fill you up more and allow you to eat them, even quick and easy things. Of course they also have varied degrees of fats and carbs, but if you focus on the protein and then the secondary items you either want/need or don't, there are still plenty of easy and quick choices.
Want protein with minimal fat? Grab a can of tuna. If you want some fat, add mayo. If you want carbs, throw either version on some toast. The same can be done in a variety of ways with just about any source of protein that is also low fat. Chicken, many beans, various forms of Greek yogurt, etc.
Depending on your hunger levels, some of the protein bars are fairly filling for the size. For me personally protein calories fill me up better and make me feel full longer than fats and carbs do. That will vary with each person though, so find the combo that works for you.
If you don't have any issues feeling hungry within your weight loss calorie restrictions, or you just aren't hungry some days, powders can be great. But even in that case if you prefer to eat the protein, I've found that there are some protein bars that aren't very large, and eating one is no more volume than maybe a decent sized snack or piece of fruit.
There are times when I like a liquid burst of energy, like after a workout or when I just don't have much hunger. But overall, I've gotten much closer to just finding ways to fill my protein goals with adjusting what I eat.
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Thanks! I need to work on protein0
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I get my protein from natural sources, I stopped drinking shakes because I prefer to enjoy my food.0
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.There are protein meal replacement shakes....I use them because I find they fill me up for way less calories than if I were to make food for myself because I make bad choices. So, by using the shakes I make good choices and stay within my calorie goals.
Me too. Plus with my job I'm sometimes up 24hrs straight and don't want a heavy meal when I would normally be sleeping.
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roblloyd89 wrote: »Guys,
I'm sure there is, but please can we keep this on topic.
The OP can get all of her protein sources from food, without being confused by the different protein shakes on the market. There is no benefit to consuming protein shakes on top of meals, your body can only use so much protein within a time window
Since others have already shot down your 'theory' that only carbs will bulk you up (which, as we know, is not true), I'll address the broscience in the bolded part above to finish squashing the bad information. Here's an article by Alan Aragon (a well-respected fitness/nutrition researcher, in case you've never heard of him) which addresses that myth, complete with plenty of links to peer-reviewed studies backing up what he says.
If you'd like to learn more about the actual nutritional principles behind bulking, here's an article by Lyle McDonald (another well-respected fitness/nutrition researcher) outlining the principles. Here's one little excerpt from it just to whet your appetite:The bottom line is this: building muscle requires a surplus/excess of two things: the building blocks of muscle (protein/amino acids) and energy (calories). You can’t build muscle out of nothing and, without both in sufficient amounts, nothing happens.
In part 2 of the article, he talks about carbohydrates being the fuel for weight training, and recommends 2g - 3g/lb. of bodyweight, which equates to somewhere around 45%-60% of the total diet.0 -
I'm pretty sure excessive protein and fat stores as glycogen the truth is technically humans don't require carbs. Fat and protein will store as the energy that the body needs. That being said bathroom time would increase drastically.. loll
The reason glycogen is mentioned for building muscle is it takes energy to move heavy stuff and amino's to build and maintain the adaption of our bodies to adapt to the work load0
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