Veganism

They don't eat a lot of vegetables, and they don't have open diaries. That's what I've noticed.
I love vegan dishes and eat them often!

I definitely understand all the reasons for why someone would want to go vegan, for the animals, to sustain the environment as well as benefits of a plant based diet. While I am not vegan because it would be too restrictive for me I am vegetarian and try to eat plant based wherever I can. I also avoid cows milk and opt for soy. As vegans rely on fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, organic non GMO soy products and other legumes their diets are lower in calories as dairy, refined sweets containing animal products and meat are higher in sugar and saturated fats making them higher in calories. A variety of plant based foods should be included to ensure adequate protein, vitamins and minerals. Leafy greens, nuts, seeds and plant milks are especially important for calcium. Iron should also be taken into account and a B12 supplement added as there is not an 'active' form in plant based foods to be absorbed unless fortified with such as soy milk. I think veganism is cool though and supporting products that are environmentally friendly gets a tick from me ✔️

I think it's sustainable for yourself and the planet. However, I like to go out and eat socially with family and friends. Most of the food isn't plant based, and I just like to change it up. I like having a lot of food options, and try not to restrict. I definitely eat MORE plant based after learning about veganism, but I'm not sure I could ever convert to it.

Yay! Give me all your recipes =-)

I'll share one:
http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/vegducken#

Hmmmm....just classic ones, like, how much protein do you eat in a day?
@janejellyroll
How many grams is 15-20% for you?

selenaabertin785 wrote: »

What everybodys thoughts on veganism?

It's a lifestyle, not a diet. It's not a lifestyle for me, but I have to say the best brownies I've ever had were vegan.

melissalatzel25 wrote: »

Veganism is really the perfect human way of eating... If you put a baby in a cot with an apple and a bunny, please let me know the day the baby will eat the rabbit and play with the apple... The lifestyle fixed my digestive disorders , i now eat unlimited calories mostly carbs from veg fruit and grains , but i also indulge in those vegan junk foods haha (oreos, pringles etc etc etc and vegan icecreams brownies and all those raw cheesecakes ). and it opens your mind to all forms of aninal exploitation and is just better for the planet and everything really... If you love animals and dont believe any living being should suffer then i think you shouldnt pay companies to keep doing it for your tastebuds... Especially when the human intestines are long and designed to digest fruits the best of all food groups, its a no brainer what our main food should be. Too much sugar in fruit? No problem, since every cell in human body runs off of glucose please check this guy GARY YOUROFSKY , hes an inspiration! Try youtube his name.. Youll love the guy

So are we basing what we should eat off what a baby would eat or play with?

Cause babies have been known to eat things like batteries, coins, plastic, stale french fries off the floor of the car. Does that also mean that adults should be consuming breastmilk since that would be something babies would opt to eat?

To answer the OP, I have no thoughts on veganism other than it is not for me. If it is for someone else, great.

melissalatzel25 wrote: »

Veganism is really the perfect human way of eating... If you put a baby in a cot with an apple and a bunny, please let me know the day the baby will eat the rabbit and play with the apple... The lifestyle fixed my digestive disorders , i now eat unlimited calories mostly carbs from veg fruit and grains , but i also indulge in those vegan junk foods haha (oreos, pringles etc etc etc and vegan icecreams brownies and all those raw cheesecakes ). and it opens your mind to all forms of aninal exploitation and is just better for the planet and everything really... If you love animals and dont believe any living being should suffer then i think you shouldnt pay companies to keep doing it for your tastebuds... Especially when the human intestines are long and designed to digest fruits the best of all food groups, its a no brainer what our main food should be. Too much sugar in fruit? No problem, since every cell in human body runs off of glucose please check this guy GARY YOUROFSKY , hes an inspiration! Try youtube his name.. Youll love the guy

Why am I not surprised that your diary is closed?
I don't mind that you're a vegan. And when you are young your body can really compensate for a lot of what you do to it. So even if you are wrong about your ideas of how to treat your body, they don't really show up or make you that uncomfortable....until you get older.

I tried veganism for 3 months a couple years ago. For some of the reasons already stated above, like animal cruelty and supposedly improving micronutrients, I found it appealing. BTW, I was focusing on whole foods. I was, for the most part, staying away from processed food.

But certain aspects of it started to bother me. For one, I wasn’t getting enough protein. It takes a LOT of work and planning to get in enough protein (1 gram per pound of bodyweight) on even a vegetarian diet. Going the extra step to veganism just made it harder yet.

Where was my vitamin B? Yes, you can get supplements, and I did. But it was thinking, maybe too much, about the lack of vital vitamins in the vegan diet that made me realize that it was anything but a natural way to eat. Our bodies are not designed or evolved to live on plants alone.

And the last one was the lack of scientific research vegans’ and vegetarians’ claims that an animal-less diet was healthier. I’m not saying that there is NO research out there, but I couldn’t find much. And considering that veganism and vegetarianism is nothing new, there should be boatloads of scientific evidence showing that those lifestyles promote better health and longer life.

So I went back to eating meat and dairy. I eat less of it now, though. I had read somewhere that the typical American diet requires 100 animals per year to be raised and slaughtered for each person. Animals are still being killed for me to eat, but if it was 100 before, it’s probably only something like 30 now. (I’m not killing animals, I’m saving lives!)

melissalatzel25 wrote: »

Veganism is really the perfect human way of eating... If you put a baby in a cot with an apple and a bunny, please let me know the day the baby will eat the rabbit and play with the apple... The lifestyle fixed my digestive disorders , i now eat unlimited calories mostly carbs from veg fruit and grains , but i also indulge in those vegan junk foods haha (oreos, pringles etc etc etc and vegan icecreams brownies and all those raw cheesecakes ). and it opens your mind to all forms of aninal exploitation and is just better for the planet and everything really... If you love animals and dont believe any living being should suffer then i think you shouldnt pay companies to keep doing it for your tastebuds... Especially when the human intestines are long and designed to digest fruits the best of all food groups, its a no brainer what our main food should be. Too much sugar in fruit? No problem, since every cell in human body runs off of glucose please check this guy GARY YOUROFSKY , hes an inspiration! Try youtube his name.. Youll love the guy

Just a note, I really don't know many babies that would eat the apple either
Humans evolved as omnivores, when we started incorporating meat into our diets it gave us that extra boost that allowed us to evolve with the ginormous frontal lobes we have today not seen in other primates.
Now-a-days due to overpopulation and destruction of natural resources I personally don't see regular meat consumption as a sustainable way of life when you can grow more grains on less ground and feed more people. But it's purely ethical reasons for me and has nothing to do with health, since like it's been mentioned, it does require a little more planning and attention.

vinegar_husbands wrote: »

You'll feel great at first, but then your B12 stores will run out.

Not if you take a supplement or eat fortified foods.

I'm really concerned about the baby eating French fries from the floor of the car. The baby should be safely strapped into a car seat. I suggest eliminating French fries from our diets. Ya know, to save a baby's life. If even one baby is saved by the elimination of French fries in our diets, it'll all be worth it! </soapbox>

Just want to add that B12 deficiency isn't that big of a worry. You just take a tiny B12 supplement, a couple times a week, it dissolves under your tongue. My B12 levels are actually excessively high and I needed to not supplement for a couple months to reduce a little. Plus the coconut milk is fortified at the same levels to be equivalent to milk in calcium and B12. We are resourceful and have many options available to us to meet nutritional needs. For ala omega 3 fatty acids I eat flax and chia and walnuts. Some people's bodies can convert ala into dha/epa. But, you can also take dha/epa algae supplements just like people take fish oil pills to make up for not actually eating fish. I eat tons of vitamin A rich vegetables along with a fat source (nuts and evening primrose oil supplements). I eat 2300 calories a day. For protein I aim for 1.6 grams per kilogram of body weight. Recommendations are 1.6 to 1.7 per kg of body weight for strength training and 1.2 to 1.4 per kg of body weight for endurance athletes.

OP, being vegan is an ethical stance and goes well beyond what you eat. if you are a vegan, you don't use any animal products whatsoever...this would include your shoes, clothing, handbags, etc.

In RE to diet, pretty much any diet can be as healthy or unhealthy as you make it.