Counting every little thing as exercise?
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Those are usually the same people who insist they are doing everything perfectly and can't lose weight. You will never convince them that the 200 calories they logged for walking to the fridge and then ate back might be part of the problem.0
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I think it does come to a point where tracking too much is as detrimental as not tracking enough. Your MFP settings, sedentary, active, etc. etc. figures all of that in as a base. It's jus easier to just increase or reduce your overall caloric intake or increase your exercise to get the weight loss at the rate you want to lose instead of trying your hardest to track every single calorie expended.0
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a lot of people have no clue what they're doing...0
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NO. I saw someone count house cleaning. Really? STOP!!!!!0
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Run_Away_Turtle wrote: »I noticed the other day that someone was counting standing under calories burned. 193 calories burned for 120 minutes of standing specifically.
Does anyone else do this?
Most people do TDEE and add their activity in, so they should not be logging anything but very strenuous activities BEYOND normal activity. Now, if they set calories at BMR then I suppose you would have to log everything extra you did...like standing, siting, and all moving. That's just crazy though.0 -
If I get in a fistfight doing my Christmas shopping tomorrow... I'm logging it as cardio.0
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Run_Away_Turtle wrote: »If I get in a fistfight doing my Christmas shopping tomorrow... I'm logging it as cardio.
Only if it is longer than Conor McGregor and Jose Aldo. The bike warm up was more strenuous.0 -
I only ever log meaningful time on my treadmill. If I get less than 10,000 steps in a day or if I don't do more than a mile or two on my treadmill, I don't log it.0
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As I clarified in another thread, MFP and most exercise calculators include BMR in the result. So the person logging standing should take into account at least 1 kCal per minute BMR, and log say 73 kCal (193 - 120) as the exercise component.Run_Away_Turtle wrote: »I noticed the other day that someone was counting standing under calories burned. 193 calories burned for 120 minutes of standing specifically.
Does anyone else do this?
Most people do TDEE and add their activity in, so they should not be logging anything but very strenuous activities BEYOND normal activity. Now, if they set calories at BMR then I suppose you would have to log everything extra you did...like standing, siting, and all moving. That's just crazy though.
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I set my activity level to sedentary and then I only add exercises I plan to do - as in only time on the treadmill (20min min) or lifting (and lifting doesn't give you any extra calories to munch) - I don't add anything else - to me that's just 'living' - not working out.0
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Of course! I log everything. Isn't that normal?
Here's my day so far:- Hitting snooze about 10 times: 4 calories
- Feeding the dog: 3 calories
- Combing my hair: 5 calories
- Getting dressed: 7 calories
- Locking the door: 1 calorie
- Walking to the car: 10 calories
- Driving: 13 calories
- Stopping at the grocery store: 18 calories
- Walking into work: 11 calories
- Logging into the computer: 2 calories
- Chewing ginger snaps: 3 calories (I think this offsets them)
- Clearing my throat: 1 calorie
- Texting: 4 calories
- Thinking about this list: 6 calories
- Typing this list: 9 calories
- Being sarcastic: 28 calories
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Of course! I log everything. Isn't that normal?
Here's my day so far:- Hitting snooze about 10 times: 4 calories
- Feeding the dog: 3 calories
- Combing my hair: 5 calories
- Getting dressed: 7 calories
- Locking the door: 1 calorie
- Walking to the car: 10 calories
- Driving: 13 calories
- Stopping at the grocery store: 18 calories
- Walking into work: 11 calories
- Logging into the computer: 2 calories
- Chewing ginger snaps: 3 calories (I think this offsets them)
- Clearing my throat: 1 calorie
- Texting: 4 calories
- Thinking about this list: 6 calories
- Typing this list: 9 calories
- Being sarcastic: 28 calories
Lmao!0 -
Run_Away_Turtle wrote: »That's what I was thinking, see I log "grocery shopping" because pushing two full, heavy carts around the store seems like a lot of work, but that got me thinking. So I don't think I will from now on.
Only if you push the grocery carts (vigorously). Otherwise you shouldn't log it.
Trying to post this with a straight face.0 -
Run_Away_Turtle wrote: »If I get in a fistfight doing my Christmas shopping tomorrow... I'm logging it as cardio.
Kickboxing (including Turbo Jam)
Your Weight: 185 Pounds
How Long: 25 Minutes
Calories burned: 3530 -
Of course! I log everything. Isn't that normal?
Here's my day so far:- Hitting snooze about 10 times: 4 calories
- Feeding the dog: 3 calories
- Combing my hair: 5 calories
- Getting dressed: 7 calories
- Locking the door: 1 calorie
- Walking to the car: 10 calories
- Driving: 13 calories
- Stopping at the grocery store: 18 calories
- Walking into work: 11 calories
- Logging into the computer: 2 calories
- Chewing ginger snaps: 3 calories (I think this offsets them)
- Clearing my throat: 1 calorie
- Texting: 4 calories
- Thinking about this list: 6 calories
- Typing this list: 9 calories
- Being sarcastic: 28 calories
125 calories, great burn! Keep up the good work!
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Of course! I log everything. Isn't that normal?
Here's my day so far:- Hitting snooze about 10 times: 4 calories
- Feeding the dog: 3 calories
- Combing my hair: 5 calories
- Getting dressed: 7 calories
- Locking the door: 1 calorie
- Walking to the car: 10 calories
- Driving: 13 calories
- Stopping at the grocery store: 18 calories
- Walking into work: 11 calories
- Logging into the computer: 2 calories
- Chewing ginger snaps: 3 calories (I think this offsets them)
- Clearing my throat: 1 calorie
- Texting: 4 calories
- Thinking about this list: 6 calories
- Typing this list: 9 calories
- Being sarcastic: 28 calories
What you don't use the bathroom??? Surely that burns some calories and possibly lose weight!!0 -
I think people who don't wear a tracker tend to add in those things, such as cleaning for 15 mins or whatever. I don't because my tracker counts all that for me.
That is not the case for everybody. My activity level is set as light active and I don't use any kind of tracker nor I count steps. I do count every type of exercise that I do at the gym and not because of the calories, but because I care about the minutes that I workout per day, and I choose to eat - or not to eat - some of my exercises calories as I see it fit.0 -
Meh. I run 4-6 miles a day and don't log it at all (or any other workouts for that matter). Whatever floats your boat.0
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NO. I saw someone count house cleaning. Really? STOP!!!!!
MFP just looks at your job to calculate your activity level:
I've seen posted that MFP uses the NEAT method, but no one has ever linked to a place on the site that says this.
While googling about NEAT just now, I found this. Bob could set himself to Sedentary and log walking the dog and other chores separately, or set himself to Lightly Active, and not log this. If mowing the lawn and walking the dog have value from a caloric expenditure, why wouldn't cleaning?
Burn Calories with NEAT – Non-Exercise Activity Thermogenesis
...Joe comes home from his desk job at night, eats dinner and goes directly to the recliner to catch up on DVR events.
Bob comes home from his desk job, eats dinner, takes the dogs for a walk, mows the yard and then sits down to watch 60 minutes of TV.
If everything else in Joe and Bob’s day were exactly the same and they had the identical inner “burn” going because of identical muscle mass and weight and thermogenesis (metabolic process) and they ingested exactly the same calories, Bob would be a leaner person in a few weeks simply because of his NEAT Factor.
Read more: http://www.shapefit.com/exercise/burn-calories-neat.html0 -
I do not log every little thing ... I figure if I spend an evening doing active housework, or go grocery shopping, or walk back and forth and back and forth to the photocopier at work, or stand during a meeting ... and if I happen to burn a few extra calories that way, they're bonus calories in case I have underestimated the calories in a food choice.
This is how I look at it too. Yes, maybe walking around pushing a cart was more work than just walking, but I figure it balances out that cookie I had to guess at or the guy who made my salad's heavy hand with the cheese or dressing, you know what I mean?
Yep ... exactly.
I do try to be as accurate as I can with my food, but there's going to be some stuff I didn't get quite right for one reason or another. So all those extra calories I might have burned taking a few extra steps here and there are there to compensate for that.
And it has worked for me. I've lost the weight.
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Well there was no fist fighting so I guess my cardio was lagging today.
I'll have to try harder tomorrow to find a brawl. Lol0 -
Welllll . . . . as a general guideline, I'm in the "don't log small stuff" camp, for sure. But I can't really totally buy into a universally judgemental view of everyone who does it.
Over time, I've gotten to know some of the people in my MFP feed. *Some* of them logging "housework" for calories are people with a chronic health condition that severely limits their movement, let alone their exercise. It may not be in their activity level, or they may have other reasons to track it. It's as hard (and as unusual) for them to do that as it is for me to do Real Exercise (TM).
Personally, I log anything that I figure is (1) significant in the overall scheme of things, and (2) not in my activity level. Pulling weeds for 15 minutes? I don't log "gardening". Double-digging a garden bed for a couple hours? Yup, logging that. Whether something is worth logging depends on activity level setting (i.e., whether it's figured in already), and the caloric impact.
IMO, not logging 200 calories of activity (that's not already factored in) is as (il-)logical as not logging 200 calories of chocolate chip cookies, if I want the best data available for estimating my true TDEE (or loss rate on a given calorie level, or whatever) eventually.0 -
Exactly.IMO, not logging 200 calories of activity (that's not already factored in) is as (il-)logical as not logging 200 calories of chocolate chip cookies, if I want the best data available for estimating my true TDEE (or loss rate on a given calorie level, or whatever) eventually.
Accurate CI
Accurate CO
Don't double count.
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I popped back to say I do log one-offs that keep me from gym dates if I feel they're equivalent & that will explain why I missed. So no I don't log gardening in general but if I spend 45 minutes wheelbarrowing mulch around my property or attacking a stump for removal & skip yoga I will consider logging that as quid pro quo. Same at my cabin when it's time to limb trees, move rocks for dry stacking stone walls, or split & stack firewood. Has to be a pretty burly activity sustained over a good amount of time to make the cut. I never log cleaning because frankly I'm not that thorough a cleaner LOL0
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Of course! I log everything. Isn't that normal?
Here's my day so far:- Hitting snooze about 10 times: 4 calories
- Feeding the dog: 3 calories
- Combing my hair: 5 calories
- Getting dressed: 7 calories
- Locking the door: 1 calorie
- Walking to the car: 10 calories
- Driving: 13 calories
- Stopping at the grocery store: 18 calories
- Walking into work: 11 calories
- Logging into the computer: 2 calories
- Chewing ginger snaps: 3 calories (I think this offsets them)
- Clearing my throat: 1 calorie
- Texting: 4 calories
- Thinking about this list: 6 calories
- Typing this list: 9 calories
- Being sarcastic: 28 calories
I nearly peed my pants - does laughing burn calories? If so, Thanks so much for this!0 -
I just use my fitbit. I'm a runner and it counts my runs too. The only extra activity that I log into my fitbit is yoga. Mainly because it's not a lot of movement, but I'm usually sweating by the time I'm done. I don't even log my strength training because I figure that I'm moving around enough that the fitbit catches some of it.
It all works out for me in the end.0 -
I don't know, I see extra activity that isn't usual that isn't logged as added insurance. I guess it would matter if someone was seriously concerned with going too far under your caloric deficit that it would be harmful, i.e. ladies that are already at a 1200 calorie daily maximum. Otherwise, it seems like a tactic to be able to 1) be able to add more food to your eating than you probably should or 2) make yourself feel better about your daily ending caloric burn or attempt to stay under your caloric allowance. To me, it all balances out in the end as your base settings capture what's normal for you but sometimes we end up having abnormal activity days that are easier or harder.0
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That is quite funny/silly. It's like sugar coating that you're not fat.0
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I guess the proof is in the pudding. If people who log every little thing as exercise still lose at their expected rate of loss, then carry on. If not, the exercise burns would be the first thing I'd be looking at
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Christine_72 wrote: »I guess the proof is in the pudding. If people who log every little thing as exercise still lose at their expected rate of loss, then carry on. If not, the exercise burns would be the first thing I'd be looking at
This.
Don't count standing as a calorie burn and then whine the next second about not losing.
Which is what this individual did.0
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