Myth Busting

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  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    VintageFeline wrote: »
    You've missed one of the biggest reasons people here promote slower rate of loss than the get off as fast as possible promoters. And that's the fact that you will have a better aesthetic outcome, generally, if you lose slower you will lose a smaller proportion of LBM (muscle). It's not just about nutritional deficiency but also the psychological aspect of liking what you see in the mirror when you are close to/getting to maintenance. Not to be sniffed at in my opinion, I want to be slim AND look damn fine in a pair of shorts! (And I am not alone, humans are inherently vain).

    This is something that depends on the situation.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    robertw486 wrote: »
    ilex70 wrote: »
    First off, I want to say if something is working for you - Paleo, LCHF, intermittent fasting, IIFYM - whatever, great. Get on with your bad self.

    I decided to share this after being accused of being a "troll in costume" after sharing my experience with a product on another thread. Apparently sharing my results for two methods was taken to meant that the OP would have the same amount of weight loss, which is just silly unless OP would be the same height/weight/activity level etc.

    The OP of the thread was asking about quick weight loss, a no no according to the gospel of MFP. Not sure if that is just common wisdom/groupthink or a policy of the site because fast weight loss , or IOW an aggressive deficit, is often associated with eating disorders. Rapid weight loss can be tricky. There is a risk of the over zealous under eating in a damaging way, or of following a rapid loss with a rapid gain due to overeating.

    That doesn't mean that a large quick loss at the start is bad. The biggest battle is between your ears, which I suspect has a lot to do with this.

    Interesting data, and it contradicts quite a few opinions that come to the surface in the diet threads here. But personally I've always thought a lot of this stuff was more individual, and for that reason quite a few studies could just be showing variation that leans more one direction or the other.

    And I'm not at all surprised at the negative comments you got. I think people like to accept only what they want, and tend to reject anything else.

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  • robertw486
    robertw486 Posts: 2,399 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    robertw486 wrote: »
    ilex70 wrote: »
    First off, I want to say if something is working for you - Paleo, LCHF, intermittent fasting, IIFYM - whatever, great. Get on with your bad self.

    I decided to share this after being accused of being a "troll in costume" after sharing my experience with a product on another thread. Apparently sharing my results for two methods was taken to meant that the OP would have the same amount of weight loss, which is just silly unless OP would be the same height/weight/activity level etc.

    The OP of the thread was asking about quick weight loss, a no no according to the gospel of MFP. Not sure if that is just common wisdom/groupthink or a policy of the site because fast weight loss , or IOW an aggressive deficit, is often associated with eating disorders. Rapid weight loss can be tricky. There is a risk of the over zealous under eating in a damaging way, or of following a rapid loss with a rapid gain due to overeating.

    That doesn't mean that a large quick loss at the start is bad. The biggest battle is between your ears, which I suspect has a lot to do with this.

    Interesting data, and it contradicts quite a few opinions that come to the surface in the diet threads here. But personally I've always thought a lot of this stuff was more individual, and for that reason quite a few studies could just be showing variation that leans more one direction or the other.

    And I'm not at all surprised at the negative comments you got. I think people like to accept only what they want, and tend to reject anything else.

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    Well isn't that cute. Lacking science, post gifs!

    There's nothing passive aggressive about an opinion, unless people have some paranoia that everything is some hidden jab.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Well that was ironic :)
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Well that was ironic :)

    MFP finally got the "Ignore User" function working again. Just sayin'. ;)
  • jnunez1963
    jnunez1963 Posts: 35 Member
    I tend to respect others opinions, and everyone is entitled to theirs.

    I just think that a large number of people, myself included, have a difficult time adhering to a radical, sudden change, feel bad, revert, hence the term yo-yo dieting.

    Making changes you can live with, and sustaining them long term, works. Just not magically "quick". If you can do it, without adverse health issues, I tip my hat.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Isn't is a violation of rules to post vaguely about others being meanies? If not, it should be, it's sure passive aggressive and rude and disruptive.

    Anyway, on with the discussion!
  • robertw486
    robertw486 Posts: 2,399 Member
    jnunez1963 wrote: »
    I tend to respect others opinions, and everyone is entitled to theirs.

    I just think that a large number of people, myself included, have a difficult time adhering to a radical, sudden change, feel bad, revert, hence the term yo-yo dieting.

    Making changes you can live with, and sustaining them long term, works. Just not magically "quick". If you can do it, without adverse health issues, I tip my hat.

    I think the level of change depends on the person. Some seem to be driven only by major changes, but others can just tweak what they are doing and find what works. But I do think it's more individual, which is why I say even a study on what works could easily be skewed just by the luck of the draw.
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
    I see no debunking of any "myth" that any unicorn has endorsed.

    Medically-supervised VLCDs for extremely obese / high risk patients are not in dispute.
  • blankiefinder
    blankiefinder Posts: 3,599 Member
    ^^^ The funniest part of the gym comment is that I surf MFP while at the gym... riding the bike, walking on the track... and I don't walk slow, pass people all the time. Reading is easy, and voice to text makes commenting work too.
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